Dempster And Bullpen Shine In 1-0 Cubs Win Over Mariners
PEORIA, Arizona -- The official boxscore of the Cubs' 1-0 win over the Mariners this afternoon says the weather conditions were
77 degrees, sunny. Wind: 13 mph, Out to LF.
Um, no. It was 77 degrees and beautiful, but the wind was most certainly NOT blowing "out" to left field. I can tell you this because I was sitting on the LF berm and the wind was coming strongly from behind me, blowing in. Why is this important? Because if the wind had actually been blowing out, Ken Griffey Jr.'s long fly ball caught at the base of the wall by Sam Fuld for the second out in the ninth inning would have been a game-tying home run. Instead it was just a long out, and when Eric Byrnes hit a fly to left to end the game in an amazingly fast one hour, 59 minutes, the Cubs had their first 1-0 game and first shutout in spring training since a 1-0, 10-inning win over the A's on March 25, 2006. (Go ahead. Click on the link to find out some interesting stuff about that game, including how many hits Cubs pitchers gave up in the first nine innings, and who the starter was for the A's that day.)
The game went so quickly that when I was exiting the park, people were standing around, apparently not realizing that it was over. The crowd of 13,629 was, for the fifth time this spring, a new Cactus League attendance record (breaking the newest record set yesterday, 13,583 at Camelback Ranch in a game between the Mariners and Dodgers. Peoria Stadium was unbelievably crowded -- I don't think I have ever seen the lawn there that packed, and the concourses were hard to negotiate, especially for people in wheelchairs.
Ryan Dempster was outstanding today -- he's absolutely ready for his first regular season start, which should come Wednesday, April 7 in Atlanta (he should, if the rotation holds, make one more exhibition start, Friday vs. the Diamondbacks in Chase Field). Dempster allowed only four hits and until the seventh inning, no one past second base. In that seventh, he got himself into a jam with two singles sandwiched around a walk. Miracle of miracles, Lou did NOT come out of the dugout to make six pitching changes; instead he let Dempster work his way out of it, which he did with a flourish -- three straight swinging strikeouts. Very, very impressive.
Jeff Samardzija had a 1-2-3 eighth -- I've thought for a long time that the Shark was better suited to relief and could become, in time, a good setup man -- and Grabow a 1-2-3 ninth, though that Griffey fly ball was scary. Griffey, who was cheered loudly by both Cubs and Mariners fans -- this must have been what it was like to watch Willie Mays in his return to New York with the Mets, long after he was an effective player -- had hit a walkoff grand slam against the Reds on Friday, and almost provided some heroics today. Instead, it was a satisfying win for the Cubs.
Kosuke Fukudome produced the only Cub run on a sacrifice fly, after a Jeff Baker double and Ryan Theriot single in the sixth inning. The Cubs had only three other hits, all singles; Seattle's Ryan Rowland-Smith also threw a nice game. Xavier Nady started for the first time this spring in a major league game in the outfield. He had no putouts, and the only time he had to handle the ball was on Casey Kotchman's double down the RF line in the first inning. Theriot came out to RF a little farther than you'd normally see a cutoff man to take Nady's relay throw. That's likely to be the effect of Nady's current throwing trouble -- having cutoff men set up a little farther into the outfield. Most of the time, I don't think it's going to be an issue.
This post is earlier than usual, first, because of the lightning like pace of today's game, and second, because I am writing it at a FedEx Office place near Peoria Stadium, waiting to head to Glendale for Paul McCartney in concert tonight. Randy Wells goes for the Cubs tomorrow against the Reds' Carlos Fisher.
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Will be in Atlanta either for the 2nd game or
3rd game for the series. Last Cub’s game I went to Dempster pitched and it was not a dissappointment. I won’t mind seeing him on the mound when I go because there usually is a good chance the good guys are going to win.
What's up with all the records?
Are they overselling these stadiums to make more money? Sounds like that game I went to in Tempe 2 weeks ago, official attendance was less than the perceived crowd.
This is why it’s imperative (listen up Tom Ricketts) to put a great berm, large and a nice viewing angle of the field, in the new facility. I think capacity of 15,000 would suit the Cubs just fine.
Colvin makes the roster…. I hope he gets enough PT.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Just my opinion...
… I think 15,000 is too many for a spring training park. One of the nicest things about ST is the perceived intimacy, the smaller parks, being closer to the players.
You already see some of that distance at Camelback Ranch — the seating area is way too large. Granted, you can get some access to the players on the practice fields. But it’s getting too large.
About 13,000-13,500 is, in my opinion, optimal capacity for spring training. Another 1500 doesn’t sound like that much, but it’s a 10% increase. Imagine putting 4000 more seats in Wrigley — that’d be about the same effect.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I know what you're saying
Camelback is just too flat, not my favorite grass seat. The berm at HoHoKam is good, elevated and everyone can see. My point is a good grass berm can hold a lot of people on those packed house days and provide a good experience for those at the game too. I know you can make more ticket money on fixed seating but these over capacity record crowds are forced into the walking paths and berms. I would rather have them in the berms and the concourses passable.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
As you well know...
… the very back of the LF berm at Mesa is sloped DOWNWARD, which means you cannot see from there if you sit.
The best berm in the Cactus League is at Maryvale. It’s huge and has an excellent slope so no one blocks anyone’s view.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
There was a brief article
in the East Valley Tribune last week after the all-time Cactus League attendance record was set 3 times in 2 days (and each time by less than 100), where the author basically called “foul!” on the attendance figures.
At the time, I thought it was rather silly, but now that the record has been set two more times, and each time by a small increment, I am starting to wonder if he didn’t have a point.
I would caution those who follow Spring Training attendance to look at them much the way you look at ST stats. It is okay to track overall performance and trends, but to get too wrapped up in snapshots of individual numbers is foolhardy. It just doesn’t make sense.
For instance, I noticed earlier in the Spring that there were several games at Scottsdale Stadium that reported an attendance of 12,000. Well, what are the odds that there were several games where the number was exactly 12,000?
Since then, they have reported attendance at several games as 12,000 and change. Yesterday, it was 12,072, for instance. I think the idea here is that the stadium holds about 12,000 and anything in that ballpark is considered a “sell out”.
BTW, if they were giving out an award this year for the number of sellout games, or home games played to the highest % of capacity, the Giants would win hands down.
Right, because...
… Scottsdale Stadium is smaller than HoHoKam, Camelback Ranch or Peoria, and the Giants are a popular draw.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Dempster was doing his best Maddux impression today.
One of his best outings.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Except for the first three batters in the bottom of the seventh,
He was masterful.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Dempster is going to have a good year.
He really pitched well last year despite his average looking numbers last year.
I’ve said this over and over again. If Zambrano, Dempster and Wells pitch at their peak we are a very dangerous team. Especially if Lilly is 100%.
2010 is OUR year.
Wouldn't that be nice for 162 games +19?
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
I'd prefer it if it were 162 games +11.
All that we need.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it's just that
I’d like the Cubs to, if they get to the postseason, to win it in as few games as possible.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 29, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Three wins in the Division Series, four in the LCS, four in the WS.
Doesn’t matter how. Just do it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yep.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 29, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, doesn't matter how,
but less games would probably be much better for my blood pressure…not to mention liver.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
i am glad ST
is moving along at what seems to be a faster pace. last year’s ST seem to stretch on forever and i think it had it’s toll on the bp…
I think he's been a little shy about predictions
since he predicted the Cubs would win the World Series in 2008.
One of Lee Elia's 15%
by waiting4cubs on Mar 29, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
It was packed!
Sat in the lawn today. It reminded me of a concert at The World in Tinley. But I got to wave the W flag after the game.
Impossible to get a beer without missing the whole game. Concession lines were ridiculous!
Oh and we got to see Fonsie hop…once.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 28, 2010 6:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Al,
How many base hits did Oakland have in that game in 2005?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 6:54 PM CDT reply actions
I seem to remember not ONE 1-0 game win last season.
I think Dempster will look more like his ’08 form than his ’09 form this season.
by braziliancubsfan on Mar 28, 2010 7:10 PM CDT reply actions
game is on
Mlb tv right now.
by cozmotaylor123 on Mar 28, 2010 8:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
When was this 1-0 game last season?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh wow, I can't read.
Ignore me.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope that my DSL will be fixed today - the last three games have been "hell" for me... ;-9
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
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I was able to watch almost all of this game via mlb.tv.
It was a great pitcher’s duel and Dempster looks to be in fine shape for the regular season. I don’t care if it is spring training – when a guy Ks the side with the bases juiced, he deserves some serious kudos.
I agree about The Shark settling into a set-up role. It appears to be his best use to the team, and I hope he’s able to focus on only this role going forward. And I’d also reiterate Al’s “don’t panic” about Xavier Nady.
My only nagging concern roster-wise at the moment is using Fontenot as backup shortstop. I’m a little surprised I don’t see more people freaking out about this. Many Cubs fans were ranting about Fontenot being “overexposed” and “not an everyday player” last season, and here we are looking at him to be the quasi-everyday second baseman and the backup shortstop. I suppose if it becomes a major issue the team could call up Darwin Barney, but I’d presume that would be at the expense of Tyler Colvin.
Oh, and obligatory Twitter reference: Mariners starter Ryan Rowland-Smith tweets as hyphen18 and, for those of you who don’t know, Ryan Dempster’s charity has a Twitter page as DempsterFDN.
I think Baker is likely to be the everyday 2B...
…. with Fontenot more of a backup at 2B, starting a couple times a week, and an emergency shortstop.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Has Lou made statements to that effect?
Last I heard, Fontenot was “winning” the second base battle (though Baker’s done some good things in the last few days). Plus, Lou is going to want another lefty bat in the lineup.
ISTR seeing Lou saying that.
In any case, you don’t necessarily want your backup SS playing every day at another position.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah, maybe Baker becomes the primary second baseman...
…just by virtue of the fact that the team needs Fontenot to play some shortstop. Plus, if Tracy makes the team, Baker won’t have to worry about backing up third base as much.

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