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"Two years ago, I played, and I was good. I go to Chicago, not good. I've been good my whole career. So, obviously, it was something with Chicago, not me."

Milton, not sayin' I want you to fail, but I want you to fail.

Dan

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Ah, Milty. Enjoy your last MLB contract.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 11:30 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Of course Bradley says its Chcago and not him

Its never his fault, ever, not once. That’s been the story of his life.

"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko

by DTJchris on Mar 4, 2010 11:33 AM CST reply actions  

and yet people here thought that would change for some reason

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I never understood that, either.

Sure, he and Hendry had dinner and he was charming. Anyone can do that for a couple of hours.

In any case, I will repeat what I’ve said in a couple other threads. This player is no longer a Cub. Thus, I think we should limit our conversation about him, to times when the Cubs play his team.

That will happen in June in Seattle — and also on 3/28 in Peoria, Arizona, the one time the two teams play in spring training.

Prediction: this player will not play in that game. In fact, I suspect he won’t be found anywhere near the ballpark that day.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

My Dinner with Milton

They must be arguing over the tab.

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 4, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Love it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

"No Mr. Bradley, that wisdom tooth isn't impacted...

…as a matter of fact, you don’t even HAVE any wisdom teeth."

"Look, what do you want me to do?"

by Zeke on Mar 4, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Al, when he says asinine things about his time here

I believe that horse can be resurrected in order to give it a stern beating

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Now on this, you and I are in agreement.

Let’s not beat that horse for too long, though.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Cue Drew...

…Drew, please report to the Milton Bradley flaming thread…

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not easily amused this morning......................

But Dan was able to make me giggle w/ this comment for some reason.

Kudos to you!

"I cherish this dream I had as a little kid to play baseball,'' Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 4, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Further proof that JIm Hendry is an unmitigated MORON

for ever thinking Bradley would ‘change’

And before the Hendry/Bradley apologists claim that means Seattle’s GM is a moron too, NO.

Seattle’s GM desperately wanted that bloated bag of goo known as Silva off his roster bad enough to get Bradley

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

Troll Fail

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by WayneCampbell08 on Mar 4, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Because Hendry didn't sign him?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Milton definition of Good is different than other peoples

His definition obviously is limited to when he is on the field and how he has performed on the field. But he must have blinders on regarding his behavioral issues and his injury history.

This is very consistent with Bradley’s previous behavior. He has anger management issues and an inability to take responsibility for his actions.

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 4, 2010 11:43 AM CST reply actions  

Go on...

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by daver on Mar 4, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I think

you’re full of it

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

All I'm going to say is...

…this is yet another unfortunate, misguided and inappropriate quote out of Milton Bradley’s mouth – not only because he’s failing to take any responsibility for his poor performance, but also because it’s just going to stoke the obsessive, shameful fires of the Paul Sullivans of the world.

Daver out!

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by daver on Mar 4, 2010 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

See you on Twitter!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

yours has video?

may addition by subtraction be real

by N Oakley on Mar 4, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to change the subject,

But what is the deal with Paul Sullivan anyway? (full disclosure: I’m not a Chicago native.)

by owllover711 on Mar 5, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Long story short:

IMHO, he’s been obsessed with Milton from day one and handled the entire unfortunate situation in a very unprofessional manner.

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by daver on Mar 8, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

And the writer is not to bright either

Not when you say this:

That said, I suspect that Milton Bradley will own up to his poor behavior in Chicago before anyone with the Cubs, the fanbase or in the Chicago press will own up to theirs. Might take a couple decades, but I bet Bradley is first.

First, Bradley will not own up to anything. It’s not in his mind-set.

Second, what do I need to own up for? As a Cubs fan, I was polite. What do the Cubs need to own up for? Signing him to a contract?

No wonder NBC is going down. They hire schlocks like this.

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 4, 2010 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

Not only that...

… the chances of him owning up, ever, are pretty close to zero.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think this will die down until after the June series in Seattle.

Just too good of a story/fire for the media to keep stoking.

Milton Bradley = Presto Log doused in Lighter Fluid

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 4, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

We need to apologize

For “making racist remarks” (I HIGHLY doubt this happened. Even if it did, SUCK IT UP AND PLAY. I would gladly get paid 10 million dollars for someone to yell racist remarks at me every day)
For booing because Milton played poorly
For not throwing him a parade every day

Don’t you see how horrible we were to him?

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 4, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The racism thing

still cracks me up. How did Sosa and Dawson play in the OF for so long and never complain about such things? We know how Sosa’s tenure with the Cubs ended and we never heard a peep about things like that happening. From ANYONE.

But you know what, if things were being said, they never complained; they went about their business and played baseball. That’s what Bradley failed to do, and along with that, he kept taking it to different absurd extremes thus, he’s no longer a Chicago Cub.

by ZachenFoot on Mar 4, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You are comparing...

two HOFers to a player who struggled in his time with the Cubs. And Sammy wasn’t African American so the situation is different.

Derrek Lee, one of the the most respected players on the current team and in baseball, has acknowledged racism’s presence at Wrigley. It is quite appalling that so many here will not do the same.

If MB was the first to raise the issue, then this would be an entirely different matter. But many have already brought this issue out and it NEEDS to be addressed and squelched by the Cubs front office and security or we will see more comments similar to Torii Hunter’s about playing in Chicago.

by Kansas25 on Mar 4, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

That’s backward, ignorant, and insensitive all at the same time. It’s 2010; there should never be an excuse for racism, and ‘making a lot of money’ is just that—an excuse. Fact is that multiple Cub players have acknowledged racism at Wrigley Field so you cannot brush it under the rug because of Bradley’s other actions. That is some horribly misguided and faulty logic you presented in your comment. The Cubs should invest in having more security in the bleachers and elsewhere to prevent racist taunts and violaters should be immediately and permanently banned.

Before I get flamed, I would like to say that I am in no way defending Bradley. This comment, along with a plentitude of other situations, shows that MB is a selfish and immature individual who is willing to scapegoat anything and anybody to avoid blame. It’s a shame his talent is being wasted and I want no part of him on the Cubs team.

by Kansas25 on Mar 4, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

It's called Personal Responsibility

I’m not here to apologize for anyone’s actions but my own. And that’s what the writer said should occur. The “Cubs fanbase” should own up to their actions. Hey Al – when is that meeting, so we (Cubs fanbase) can draft and vote on the Bradley apology? See how silly that idea is?

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 4, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I was not commenting on that...

portion of the article whatsoever. I agree with you.

by Kansas25 on Mar 4, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure what else the Cubs should do in the Bleachers

They have security in every row down by the field. They have more security at the top of the bleachers. They have cameras now watching everything. Maybe this is more about getting the security they have in place to do a better job.

But at the end of the day, this is a baseball stadium with thousands of talking people in it. You can’t always identify and stop every person who yells a racist taunt.

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 4, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

It's almost like real life!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 4, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Well,

you are certainly right that it is impossible to eliminate racist taunts completely. But, as you mentioned, it should not be too difficult to create a zero-tolerance policy for offenders, add extra security, or as you specifically said, make sure that security in place does a better job.

by Kansas25 on Mar 4, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that racism and racist remarks should not be tolerated.

However, Bradley’s comments made it sound like it was an all-encompassing, pervasive problem, when in reality it was likely a small handful of loudmouth idiots.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not an advocate of racism by any means

But MB used it as a crutch and as an excuse. Racism may be existent at Wrigley but it isn’t prevalent enough to cause you to have a bad season. Sorry. I don’t buy it. All I hear is a three year old blaming matches for a fire

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 4, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

I wasn’t implying that racism is tolerable, no way. I don’t advocate it or anything like that. Just don’t use that as a crutch along with blaming other aspects to try and compensate for YOUR bad season. It doesn’t work that way.

Racism is a bad thing. I’m sure it happens, as it does in every sporting venue sometime or another. It shouldn’t be accepted or tolerated but at the same time, don’t lay the blame on that for poor performance.

by ZachenFoot on Mar 4, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

And yet...

you dismissed his claim because of who he is.

And yes, I do agree with your comment that he cannot point to that for his season’s failures.

All I’m trying to do is to separate that incident away from the MB shadow and relate it to other such occurences with other players. I realize it’s a boy-cried-wolf scenario with MB, but I don’t find that a valid excuse to dismiss the claim altogether.

by Kansas25 on Mar 4, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough

But what can I, as a fan who doesn’t attend many games a year, do about it? I can say it’s bad and hope that it goes away but I don’t think it will discourage people from attending games. I think it’s just a situation where you say “it’s a shame” but there’s nothing you can do

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 4, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

As a season ticket holder in the bleachers...

how would you assess current security measures in the ballpark to prevent such remarks? Any steps that could help?

by Kansas25 on Mar 4, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, they could use more security.

That’s true in general. And people who yell remarks like this should be ejected (along with people who exhibit other forms of idiot behavior).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what I'm hoping for.

I really took interest in this issue when Torii Hunter made some offhand comments about racism affecting his desire to play for the Cubs when he was a free agent a few years back. Even if it is poor performing players making the accusations (Hawkins, Jones, Bradley), I’d hate to see these comments develop a reputation for Cub fans and hurt our club’s chances on signing a player.

It’s impossible to completely eliminate all such comments, but I really would like to see the Cubs front office be more aggressive in their security measures and prevent as much of these incidents as possible.

by Kansas25 on Mar 4, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Still not sure..........

………..about Hunter’s bleacher “sample size”. What leads him to this conclusion? Can’t be the extent of his own experiences.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra

by tville on Mar 5, 2010 8:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Most likely not...

as he maybe played a single series at Wrigley. My guess would be he formed his conclusion after talking to former teammates Jacque Jones and Latroy Hawkins.

by Kansas25 on Mar 5, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I think that you're both pretty right here.

I’m sure that it happened – I’ve personally seen similar things at Wrigley over the years. And you’re right that people throwing racist epithets around should be kicked out and banned. But MLB players need to be professionals and tune out hecklers, no matter how vile.

I’m also pretty sure that when things got bad toward the end of his last season here, Milton exaggerated the extent of this problem in a misguided attempt to shift blame and appear sympathetic. There’s no way that his kid’s preschool teacher called him the N-word, for instance. I get the feeling that Dusty pulled those racist letters out of his desk when the masses were calling for his firing for much the same reason.

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by D98 on Mar 4, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd agree with that.

And I understand that Wrigley Field is not the only place in baseball where racism is present.

But I am genuinely concerned about the reputation the Cubs are receiving and am fearful of black baseball players being hesitant to come to Chicago.

by Kansas25 on Mar 4, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

But MLB players need to be professionals and tune out hecklers, no matter how vile.

You would not say that to an African American who worked in an office. Why is a baseball player different? Simply because he makes a lot of money?

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 4, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec.

"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"

by HoSs. on Mar 4, 2010 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

uh-huh

just like you telling someone else they can’t call you names, but you’re fine with Milton being called names.

It must be because he makes so much money.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 4, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

You're missing the point

If you want to argue the name calling with Al and jtizzle, that’s one thing, but you’re mixing the issues.

Athletes get heckled. Take away the uglier side (racism) and they still get heckled and need to ignore it. Are you going to equate booing to being in an office, too?

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

no, I don’t think I’m missing the point.

But it’s useless to argue about it. So I’m simply going to stop.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 5, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Their hopeless drew

no need to even try convincing them their ideas are backwards. Their never going to get it.

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Contractions can be your friend........

……….but if you think heckling would be okay in an office setting then we’re well beyond contractions.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra

by tville on Mar 5, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Everyone Start a wave in their office today!

I mean we are saying the actions at the ballpark should be the same at the office, right?

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Mar 5, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Where's that @#$%^ vendor...........

……….with my hot dog and beer!!!!

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra

by tville on Mar 5, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, nice shoes. What, you wear sandals to work?

It’s always nice to walk into a room and get the aroma of feet. That’s real conducive to the work atmosphere. I’m sure your co-workers really appreciate it. ‘Hey, let’s go eat in Toby’s office. Great idea! We can check on her bunions!’

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by Goodie1969 on Mar 6, 2010 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

and then fast forward a bit this classic scene...

…where Kramer is describing his bus ride to the hospital (he’s got the pinky toe on ice in a cup)

KRAMER: Then everybody is screamin,’ because the driver, he’s passed out from all the commotion…the bus is out of control! So, I grab him by the collar, I take him out of the seat, I get behind the wheel and now I’m drivin’ the bus.

GEORGE: You’re Batman.

KRAMER: Yeah. Yeah, I am Batman. Then the mugger, he comes to, and he starts chokin’ me! So I’m fightin’ him off with one hand and I kept drivin’ the bus with the other, y’know? Then I managed to open up the door, and I kicked him out the door with my foot, you know – at the next stop.

JERRY: You kept makin’ all the stops?

KRAMER: Well, people kept ringin’ the bell!

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by ballhawk on Mar 6, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey wasn't there that guy, Robinson

Would have been a HOF’er without the first African American in the majors. Put up excellent numbers with all that racism, fear for his life on a daily basis

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 5, 2010 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

This is clearly...

something you cannot grasp. It does not matter if individuals have put up with worse or the same treatment and still perform, there is NO excuse for racism.

Sarcasm and ignorance should probably not be found in the same comment.

by Kansas25 on Mar 5, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree here

It’s like saying you should be allowed to make sexist jokes at the office, just because everyone should be able to take a joke.

Milton is an idiot. He is very weak skinned. He needs to learn how to take criticism, especially in the form of heckling. But if anyone heckles him in a racist manner, the line has been crossed. It isn’t right to say “other players were the butt of more racism so he should be fine”. This isn’t something any player should be dealing with.

It was wrong when Jackie and Billy and Hank were receiving it, and it is wrong now, even if it’s not as common as it was then.

by madcow256 on Mar 5, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying it should be allowed

Please get it through your head that I don’t think racism is something that should be written off

I’m saying that it’s not an excuse for poor performance. It’s bad but as a professional you need to rise above it. If you can’t handle it, I don’t think less of you as a human being, only as a ballplayer

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Still providing warped logic...

You would think less of him as a ballplayer because he couldn’t function as well while enduring racial taunts? Could you function as well in your job if people were attacking your race, religion, appearance, etc.?

You and others can point to Jackie Robinson, Williams, and Banks all you want. But do you think those players imagined that 30-40 years later black baseball players would still be hearing the same things, albeit not as incessantly? Jackie Robinson was one of many who initially broken down the racial barrier in baseball; do you think he envisioned that 60 years down the line players would still be facing backward and immature fans?

If your thesis is that racism is not the sole issue MB failed in Chicago, then I agree. But just because Bradley is one extremely troubled person does not mean that the issue can be taken any lighter.

by Kansas25 on Mar 5, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes I would

It’s sad that it still exists, but if you’re allowing any kind of taunt to effect your play you should find another profession, no matter how insulting.

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 8, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Milton's problem is that he thinks all white guys

secretly think like Michael Richards.

When it’s more likely we’re thinking like Keith Richards.

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by Goodie1969 on Mar 8, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

No one is excusing anything.

Obviously, racist hecklers should be booted and banned.

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by D98 on Mar 6, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

"Denver" booted? That'd be awesome

Imagine if Cubs security had Denver-boots adapted for human wear they could slap on racist hecklers right then and there. Maybe spray-paint a scarlet “R” on their chest too. Then they’d have to stumble around the rest of the game in shame and all the world could see who the idiots really are.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 6, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah yes, the old scarlet letter.

In this case, not a bad idea.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand that...

but MusicDude doubted Bradley’s claims because of Bradley. I don’t see anyone in this thread who condones racist taunts. As you said, I hope that the Cubs brass addresses this problem more aggressively.

by Kansas25 on Mar 6, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course there's no excuse

But there’s a simple fact in play here: you cannot fill a 40,000 seat stadium without filling it with a few assholes (giving props to the movie “From the Hip”, there is no other word that quite fits). If you are an MLB player, you have to know this. Whether it’s racists, drunks, people talking about your mama, whatever, it’s going to happen. If it’s pervasive, continuous, and commonplace, then there’s a complaint. If it’s not, complaining about it is ridiculous and counterproductive. It will happen, and it has nothing to do with the player’s performance.

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Mar 8, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Because his "office" has 30,000 people in it.

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by D98 on Mar 6, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

so what?

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 6, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

It's part of the job, Drew.

Baseball players have been, from time immemorial, heckled in various ways. Make no mistake, racist remarks have no place and those who do that should be banned from the park.

The rest of it is part of the territory. I think if I were being paid $10 million to play baseball, I’d just stand there and laugh at those who are doing it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

we expect

no other kind of worker to put up with this sort of harassment, but ball players have to?

I don’t agree with that.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 6, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll have to agree to disagree on this.

Baseball players play in front of people who pay to see their performance. It is an accepted part of that performance, that if it’s bad or otherwise disapproved of by the paying customer, said customer can express his/her distaste in various ways (that does NOT include racist remarks).

Other jobs don’t have paying audiences. Yours likely doesn’t. I’m not quite sure why you can’t see the difference.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2010 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

so we should accept

racists taunts flung at people in the theatre? How about at an orchestra concert?

workplace laws apply to ALL workplaces, not just the ones where we don’t feel jealous of people based on how much money they make, and therefore need to find a way to tear them down.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

wait a minute, drew

Al didn’t condone racist remarks in the park, the theater or the concert hall. He’s been very clear on this matter. He said,

Make no mistake, racist remarks have no place and those who do that should be banned from the park.

But all kinds of highly paid individuals get heckled — Senators, Congressmen and women, comedians, bad sopranos and tenors at the opera, etc. etc. It’s the name of the game and it indeed comes with the territory.

you can’t get much by that #$%@ ballhawk -- LT

by Emelie on Mar 7, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Indeed

I don’t know which he’s having more trouble seeing – the fact that everyone who has weighed in on the topic agrees that racist taunts are completely unacceptable anywhere, or the fact that you cannot uniformally assign “office standards” to professional entertainment venues. Perhaps when he does something good at work, strangers applaud and it doesn’t phase his coworkers; I don’t know.

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Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 7, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Do performers at an orchestra concert have different expectations than those performing

at a ballpark. As has been said numerous times, it’s not condoned, and it’s not right. But if you want to be a ballplayer and play in front of 40,000 people, and you don’t expect a few idiots to go racial, or sexual, or in any other way ignorantly bigoted in their taunts, then you are naive. If you blame your poor performance on those at fault, you are looking for a scapegoat.

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Mar 8, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

NBC

is become a non factor in viewing, there only saving grace this year is the Office and the Olympics. The network is a disaster.

by Grockcubs on Mar 4, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

CONAN!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I miss him :(

And him

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 4, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Long live Conanado!

"The only way to prove you are a good sport is to lose." Ernie Banks

by love the ivy on Mar 5, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

In the year 3,000

In the year 3,000!

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 8, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

The Office did a clip show

As a longtime fan, even I believe they’ve jumped the shark.

by madcow256 on Mar 4, 2010 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

This week's episode was great

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 5, 2010 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

It was better than it has been lately

But the show used to be consistently that funny.

by madcow256 on Mar 5, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

The fifth season as a whole I thought took big steps towards it being better but I’ve been disappointed the last few months

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Running out of plotlines...

Now it seems they’re just searching through multiple storylines until one sticks.

by Kansas25 on Mar 5, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

They'll get there

I have faith. The baby will provide for a few episodes. I think it’s time for a few new characters though.

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 8, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Lou was right...

Milton is a piece of shit. It’s that simple.

That being said, I’d love it if I never heard the POS’s name again.

by kanderber on Mar 4, 2010 12:15 PM CST reply actions  

Power up!

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Cowboy up

"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko

by DTJchris on Mar 4, 2010 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Heads up!

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Mooovin on up!

Toooo the top…

"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella

by PacificCub on Mar 4, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Big ups!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 7:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

ONE UP

A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGANLE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!! GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!

by Azul Cachorro on Mar 4, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Flaps up, gear up

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Fins up!

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

POPPPP up

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Mar 6, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Mop up!

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

yours

"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Mar 4, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

thats a great response you piece of shit. haha

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

you really came back in here to say that?

how mature

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 5, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he kinda proved kanderber's "grow up" point, didn't he?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

haha

I’m only repeating what he said about Bradley. What? now it’s not OK?

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

You still don't see the difference between saying that about someone that will never see it

And saying it directly to a person that you know is most likely to read it?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I really

don’t care, he deserves it.

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, pretty much. I've been trying to avoid it, but you're being dumb

Combative, obstinate, rude, and overall, just plain dumb.

Carry on with your internet crusade – good luck rescuing the maidens and slaying the dragons.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

No I wont accept that

Before you quit arguing with me you actually need to make a point of some kind

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

You're making them for me; thanks.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Still

going for the easy out I see. Haha keep it up.

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

You know

whats really sad is that you actually agree with this title. If any of you people really hate Bradley you have serious issues, and should probably stop taking this game so seriously.

And on top of it you continue to let people on here call him names like kanderber did just above. Al you are the real POS here.

by jtizzle on Mar 4, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for playing!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

So it's OK to call me names, then?

Think again.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh

I guess I just assumed that since you continuoulsy condone the way people use that languege and namecalling toward Bradley you could handle it if someone said it to you.

Guess not huh?

by jtizzle on Mar 4, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I have no dog in this fight, but

Bradley is highly unlikely to read this blog (I would hope). Surely you can see the difference?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter

He does the same thing to other posters on here (BLou). Whenever Al agrees with what is said about some people, he just looks the other way when they are called names and cursed down. Its really pathetic on Al’s part.

by jtizzle on Mar 4, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 4, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Your point is stupid. The End.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 4, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Can we all move on, please?

I’m all for arguing, but this is pretty juvenile.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

What do u mean?

Wasn’t he being funny or something?

by jtizzle on Mar 4, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

actually yes

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not taking either side

But that argument is more than a bit “high-schoolish”, don’t you think?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

haha

a legend? on a blog? he can have that amazing “accomplishment”. I certainly hope he isn’t proud of that haha

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

WOW!

I am sorry I missed this. Jtizzle, you can NOT be over 15 years old. Don’t say you are, I don’t believe you.

I was just reading to see when you busted out “I know you are but what am I” or Sticks and stones…"

That was a HILARIOUS conversation.

“BURN”!

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 11, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Legend?

They’re both acting like elementary kids.

by Kansas25 on Mar 5, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

He has no point.

I imagine his comments are here purely for entertainment purposes.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

You ARE the

Picture master !!

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Mar 11, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Well your time here was short...

but useless. We won’t miss and the world is a worst place because of you.

Have a pleasant day

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

Im glad you came to such a conclusion without ever meeting me. Same thing you did with Milton Bradley I’m sure haha

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

You are welcome Sir.

I didn’t need to meet MB in perosn or you. The comments from both you and MB have led me to this conclusion. I can only judge you on what you have put forth.

As far as MB, I stand by my previous comments, he was an average outfielder with major mental health issues. I wish him well, just somewhere else.

As far as you, I wish you well, just somewhere else.

Have a pleasant Friday and wonderful weekend.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Mar 5, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Very polite

thats a first around here I believe.

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I do believe...

that your comments have led to people treating you in such a manner. Telling the creator/editor of this website (most people here will side with Al if only because they enjoy this site so) a “real POS” will get you the flames of hell.

Maybe next time you start by attacking someone a little less important to the website, oh like maybe yourself, before you go after the “Big Dog” and take Al on. That road will only lead to heartache and hurt feelings.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

by Ditkavsworld

by gaclaudy on Mar 5, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

heartache and hurt feelings?

I doubt it. And by calling Al a POS, I was making a point that he has a very strange double standard when it comes to calling names and cursing. He seems to not mind, and sometimes chimes in when it’s against someone he doesnt like, but he sends me “warnings” when I say anything like that to him or his little followers. Its ridiculous.

Al just needs to grow up a little bit and quit acting like he and his opinions are better than everyone elses just because he runs a website.

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Why don't you find a new blog then?

Doesn’t make sense young man.

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 11, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I concur, he is stupid.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 5, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

pretty much unanimous I would think

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 6, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

TURN IT GREEN

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Mar 6, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

For the record:

I didn’t call him a name. I said:

I still hate Milton Bradley with the fury of a thousand suns

No name there.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Goodbye!

It’s been … interesting … having you here.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Baby want a bottle?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Mar 4, 2010 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

No, you guys, Milton may be onto something

Things like this and this never happened, so in his world, his logic is correct.

Milton is like Carl Everett, who didn’t believe in dinosaurs, the moon landing, or the holocaust. At least he was a calm man

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 4, 2010 12:58 PM CST reply actions  

MB needs the Ludovico Treatment

if there’s ever a chance of him becoming “good”.

by EalyEagle on Mar 4, 2010 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 4, 2010 1:18 PM CST reply actions  

LOL

www.facebook.com/craighudak

by Craig in South Bend on Mar 7, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Why do you care what a clown like MB thinks?

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 4, 2010 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

Green'ed coming from the idiot who bought a Bradley jersey.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Mar 4, 2010 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you. I need it.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Mar 5, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

You could go buy the letters that spell "COLVIN"...

… and replace the Bradley name. Something’s telling me you might have a bargain if you do that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 5, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

rec'd

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

What a miserable life he must have

I’m glad he doesn’t get to share it with me and the Cubs any longer

Be careful, it's my heart.

by bigz38fan on Mar 4, 2010 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

Well...

I’m sad that things didn’t work out in Chicago. Yes, Milton made some mistakes and should take credit for them. But it’s not entirely incorrect to blame some his struggles on the atmosphere in Chicago. The fanbase was against him before he ever put on the uniform, and when he was hurt to start the season and really struggled, he began to press to meet the expectations of fans that thought he was suddenly going to morph into a power hitter when he had been an on-base guy his whole career.

That said, Milton should have handled the media better and was really immature at times. But he’s no longer a Cub and we’ve thankfully moved on, and I wish him the best of luck in Seattle.

by Pre on Mar 4, 2010 1:30 PM CST reply actions  

Make it something worse

Plantars Itch and Jock Warts sounds pretty bad.

Loved the comment

Ryan

I would have loved to see him in Boston. That would have been good enough for prime time.

5 – Thu Mar 04,2010 12:43 PM ET Reply

may addition by subtraction be real

by N Oakley on Mar 4, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

"But it’s not entirely incorrect to blame some his struggles"

No it’s not. However, Milton apparently thinks ALL his struggles were the fault of Chicago. Which is both bizarre, and mind blowingly stupid. Especially when you consider he’s had plenty of seasons that looked very similar to last year.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I am sorry...

that he doesn’t know how many outs it takes before you can throw the ball in to the bleachers.

by sloathcheck78 on Mar 4, 2010 1:44 PM CST reply actions  

I want him to fail

I want him to get injured.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Mar 4, 2010 1:50 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I want him to get traded to a team coming through Wrigley this year.

That quote is grade A prime stupid.

may addition by subtraction be real

by N Oakley on Mar 4, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Saw this on ESPN before I saw it here

Was going to post a fanshot captioned simply: “Milton Speaks; Cue the Outrage”

I used to defend this guy (I still say he played hard), but this has to be one of the more idiotic statements I’ve seen a ballplayer make. Its one thing to say I didn’t fit in or whatever. I could even understand if he blamed something specific like a hostile environment after his slow start, or what have you. But: I’m always good, therefore if I suck its the city’s fault? What a loser.

by Orval Overall on Mar 4, 2010 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed & rec'd

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Green'ed.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Mar 4, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Mar 11, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Something to keep in mind

This appears to be the original article, http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/03/mariners-counting-on-milton-bradley/. And this is the FULL quote from MB:

"Two years ago, I played, and I was good," Bradley said. "I go to Chicago, not good. I’ve been good my whole career. So, obviously, it was something with Chicago, not me."

He added: "Just no communication. I never hit more than 22 homers in my career, and all of a sudden I get to Chicago and they expect me to hit 30. It doesn’t make sense. History tells you I’m not going to hit that many. Just a lot of things that try to make me a player I’m not."

The second part of the quote shows at the very least that Bradley is thoughtful about what went wrong in Chicago. Frankly, he echoes a lot of what posters on BCB have said — that aside from the horrible attitude, Bradley was miscast by Hendry et. al.

Obviously, MB could actually own up to his mistakes. But the second part of the quote kept me from getting annoyed at Milton, in this case.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

Interesting

The second part was equally annoying to me.

Did he not know this before he signed? Or maybe he reads blogs to find out bad things people are saying about him.

In either case, if he didn’t know what he was being hired to do, then he’s stupid.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, the "communication" breakdown is likely BS

Jim probably told him he’d be a great fit in the 5 hole, and Milton overestimated his own abilities and signed on the dotted line. Foolish by both parties.

by shoemile on Mar 4, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

IIRC ...

one of Lou’s issues with MB was that he would rather take a walk with men in scoring position than try to drive them in. Assuming my memory’s correct, I can see Milton’s point. He was that type of player his whole career. He NEVER was a big RBI guy.

Again, I’m not letting him off the hook. But I can see his point about this issue.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

How is "trying to drive them in" dependent on "30 homeruns"?

A single drives in most from scoring position.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Taking a walk isn't necessarily bad...

unless the guys behind you are named Fontenot, Hill, Baker, Scales and Miles. In that case, you kinda wanna not leave driving in runs to those guys and hit the damn ball every once in awhile.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 4, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

to SWL and SB

SB: I took his comment about 30 HRs to mean he wasn’t an HR/RBI guy. But I see your point …

SWL: Totally agree. MB should have definitely adjusted his game.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

wait...maybe the entire problem WAS in Chicago....

THE PROBLEM = ALL THE BATTERS HITTING BEHIND MILTON

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 4, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

If I recall

It was obvious to everyone, including us fans, that the Cubs were looking for a guy who could play right field, hit from the left side, and bat in the 5 hole, since it was determined Fukudome couldn’t cut it there. Milton HAD to know that he would be batting in the middle of the order, because Lou likes to have someone split up the righties (for better or worse). I highly doubt Jim wasn’t up front with him about this.

by shoemile on Mar 4, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

$30 million ...

probably convinced him he could do the job and/or that the Cubs knew what they were buying.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

The question is where the miscommunication came from. I’m not going to take Milton’s word for anything, but what Milton described is what we saw happen to Fukudome and what we saw happen to Pie – players who became defined by what they couldn’t do, rather than by what they could do. So, the question going forward is – can Marlon Byrd do what the Cubs want done – hit in the 5-hole, drive in runs? Or is he another misfit, for not being LH, or not being powerful enough, or what have you.

The one thing you can point to about Byrd is that he was an OBP guy in 2008, and got moved into an “RBI position” in ‘09, and changed his game, lowering his OBP and upping his SLG. If that’s what Lou wants, maybe we’ve finally got through this mess, but we’ll see.

Anyway, I agree with you that it’s doubtful that the miscommunication is between Hendry and the player; you don’t get a rep for being a player’s GM if you aren’t communicating. It could be between Hendry and Lou; it could be between Lou and his players; it could be between MB and the world; it could be a combo of these.

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by DGU on Mar 7, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think there was any miscommunication

I just think Milton was pushing the blame onto others.

The problem, to me, is that Lou has continually asked for a lefty to put in the five hole (since Lee and Ramirez are mainstays, understandably). Fukudome, as you, and others have stated, is not suited for the position. Same goes for Bradley. Lou asked for something to fit into that round hole. Jim gave him square pegs, which Lou stubbornly refused to admit simply don’t fit. I don’t know if I’d call it a miscommunication, but Jim’s failure to provide a suitable 5 hole hitter has exacerbated Lou’s stubborn desire to have a lefty fit into that spot.

by shoemile on Mar 8, 2010 2:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Now there's where I disagree.

MB can hit in the 5-hole just fine. He had success hitting 4th all through 2008, success hitting 3rd in 2007 and 2006. If you can hit 3rd and 4th, you can hit 5th. And in ‘06 and ’07, his SLG in those roles was .484 and .544, let alone his ungodly #s in 2008. What about that doesn’t fit the 5 hole?

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by DGU on Mar 14, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a good point about Byrd.

I kinda wish Lou would make him the No. 2 hitter with Kosuke in the lead-off spot.

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by daver on Mar 8, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Sori or Soto

rebound and take that spot, but otherwise, I think Lou and Rudy will be happy with Byrd there.

"What a lot of people don’t see is the tremendous amount of progress that has been made in the organization over the last few years. We have a lot of very talented guys coming up through the system. Jim has built an incredible scouting organization." - Tom Ricketts

by DGU on Mar 14, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, but, yeah

otherwise I agree with you.

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by DGU on Mar 14, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto's another option I'd consider there.

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by daver on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree.

My guess is that most free agents sign with teams and assume the team is interested because the FA can fill a void that the team needs and wants to fill. The money involved is MUCH more important than anything else.

At most, I bet MB figured the Cubs needed a lefty bat and they needed a starting RF. I doubt he thought about how they could use an RBI guy in the middle of the order instead of a on-base guy better suited to bat second on an NL club (that’s where he was best last year).

It’s perfectly reasonable for Milton to think that PART of the problem was that the Cubs signed the wrong type of player. It WAS part of the problem. But a bigger part of the problem was the fact that Milton was such a head case that he couldn’t handle criticism BECAUSE he was the wrong type of player, because he got off to a bad start, etc., etc.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I still think the onus is just as much on the player.

Would you take a job without knowing what was going to be expected of you?

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, let's just say I've done something pretty close.

And I really, really regretted it. I’m sure the fact that MB got $30 million made him less concerned about the details of his new job.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok, I suppose you and I have to be a bit wiser because we don't have the same security

(Unless you do – in which case, hey – can I buy ya a beer?)

And I do see your point, but he signed up of his own accord, not through a trade.

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't have that kind of security, sadly.

Last point on this …

I think Milton has a genuine point here. However, the more I think about it, the more I think he’s seizing on something legitimate — but also something that only addresses a small part of last year’s problem. It’s kinda like saying the only thing that made “Seinfeld” at hit show was Newman.

Newman WAS funny, Milton WAS miscast. But both wer small parts of much larger situations.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

According to some tweets this morning...

… Lou denied that Bradley was told the things that Bradley claimed he was in the NYT article.

I know who I’ll believe in that scenario, and it isn’t MB.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

“I don’t think that was the case. We never put any expectations on Milton,” manager Lou Piniella said, "I don’t really have anything else to add, but we never put any expectations on 30 homers or anything else. I think getting off to a struggling start didn’t help him. I think he tried to make up for it with one swing of the bat. And it snowballed.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/2084067,milton-bradley-mariners-chicago-04.article

by jesus christos on Mar 4, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

well, they did sign him as a lefty bat ...

when he had a track record of being a much better right-handed hitter.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

missed this in the original story:

“Any time I’ve had a problem anywhere, it’s because I’ve been disrespected. And I will not be disrespected by anyone.”

Now, that’s just a remarkably stupid thing to say.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

And thanks to jesus christos for finding the Sun Times link. It must have been on tweets from Gordo that I saw that information.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Because

everyone knows that Milton should love and accept being disrespected right?

by jtizzle on Mar 4, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Respect has to be earned.

Milton Bradley did absolutely nothing in his year in Chicago to earn the respect of Cubs fans, and in fact, did many things to cause them to disrespect him, or more accurately, NOT respect him (that “disrespect” word, IMO, is overused).

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by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Cubs fans

never gave him a chance, as I recall you were bitching about him from the moment he was signed. What was he supposed to do to earn your almighty respect? Just smile and say he loves chicago when some rude fans call him racist names? I don’t think so.

by jtizzle on Mar 4, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

not liking a signing

is not the same as disrespecting someone

by jesus christos on Mar 4, 2010 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

is this Milton?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

holy crap!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 4, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right, I didn't want the Cubs to sign him.

What could he have done to earn my respect? Play ball, play it right, respect his teammates, and shut up and stop blaming everyone else for his problems.

Yes, there were a few racist idiots. Those people should be condemned in loud voices. But they’re not the root of Milton’s problems. He is.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You're asking for WAAAAY too much

Show up and earn a paycheck? Hit more home runs than Micah Hoffpauir or Jeff Baker? Have a few more hits than Aramis Ramirez when he’s out for half the seasaon? Cmon Al, be realistic. The guy’s only making 10 mil a year

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by Musicdude10 on Mar 5, 2010 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Play ball?

he did that. Play it right? he did that too, or was he running the bases the wrong way or something? I will agree that Milton is an asshole, everyone knows that. But if you can’t see that the media pretty much baited him into everything he said, because they all hated him from the start just like you, then your a moron.

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, brother.

Yeah, let’s absolve him of all accountability. Don’t forget how the big, bad media let the air out of Milty’s tires, kicked his dog, etc.

And if you’re going to insult someone’s intelligence, at least get the your/you’re bit correct.

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh Wow

That’s all you have? I really don’t care to bother with your/you’re when typing online. lol

I’m glad that’s what you decide to go after though, just keep ignoring everyhting else I said.

by jtizzle on Mar 5, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice to see you read the whole comment

Instead of focusing on the content, you take a shot at the throwaway part.

You’re making some very strong points in this thread – but I don’t think they’re what you’re going for.

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Wait a second ...

and don’t get testy when I ask you this, OK? You really think all the dumb things Milton said resulted from him being baited by the media?

Seems to me a lot of the goofy stuff he did on the field — throwing bats, arguing with umpires, etc. — necessitated questions from the media. Do you disagree with that?

by elgato on Mar 5, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Personally, I don't blame the media for Milton's actions

These were things of his own doing. Still, I thought certain members of the media were unprofessional in dealing with him.

by shoemile on Mar 5, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I generally think ...

the media is blamed more often for things than is appropriate. Even if the Chicago media was more rabid than others in MB’s past, it wasn’t like his troubles started when he first dealt with Gordo or Sullivan.

It’s also difficult to label a member of the media “unprofessional.” Reporters don’t have written professional standards (like doctors or lawyers), so it’s hard to say what’s professional and what’s not.

Was the media fair to Milton? That’s pretty difficult to say, too. The S-T story about black players at Wrigley was almost self-fulfilling, but I don’t think things would have been much different had that story never run.

It’s another bad-apples argument, really. A handful of racist taunts could have poisoned Milton’s experience here. A jackass reporter could have turned him against the press corp. But other players have responded better in similar situations.

I realize that I’m bordering on rambling, so I’ll stop now.

by elgato on Mar 5, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Personally, I don't think the media was fair to Milton

Does that absolve Milton of anything? No. I don’t know how the media in other markets treated him, but Sullivan and Wittenmeyer, beat reporters, seemed to take joy in taking swipes at Milton knowing full well that their words are read by many, many people. Deserved or not, I don’t think that’s their job.

by shoemile on Mar 5, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

jt, you are out of touch with reality

please come back to earth .. being lost in space is a terrible waste of your cognitive action

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Mar 6, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

This is the line that ticked me off.

That is a massive persecution complex he’s carrying around

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 5, 2010 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Stupid or not

I can guarantee you that Milton believes this 100%. This line could be the mantra for his whole career and it explains why he has never found a home despite being a pretty decent ballplayer.

by azjazzman on Mar 8, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a decent analogy

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, that second part just makes him look like more of a whiner

and certainly doesn’t excuse the first part

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

you know

I don’t want to be “that guy” who says so. But…I told ya so about Bradley!!!

This is the year...

by Chanman25 on Mar 4, 2010 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

Thank goodness

he is gone. He is Seattle’s mess now. It will be only a matter of time he goes on one of his rants, blames the Northwest passage, Starbucks coffee and Pearl Jam for his problems.
 He has been a pain in the ass everywhere he has been, “All aboard the next stop Seattle”

by Grockcubs on Mar 4, 2010 2:57 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Poor Milton never learned his Yogisms: “Wherever you go, there you are.”

I can see MB’s point if he were to blame Pearl Jam, though.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Mar 5, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Oversimplistic logic used by Milton Einstein:

“Two years ago, I played, and I was good. I go to Chicago, not good. I’ve been good my whole career. So, obviously, it was something with Chicago, not me.”

Actually, when Bush was President, you were good. When Barack Obama became President, not good. So obviously, it was something to do with the election of Barack Obama.

Correlation does not always mean causation, Bradley. Sheesh!

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by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 4, 2010 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

+ 1000 BCB points

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Mar 8, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Dear Milton Bradely

Its all your fault. You are weak in the head. You targeted Cubs fans for racism? Other black Players such as Lee came in here, had a decent career going, and continued their success. So there is something wrong with Chicago? Yea, thats why many players in baseball would like to play for us if it wasnt about money. We have the best fans in the world. Thanks for trying.
P.S. Throwing the ball in the stands with 2 outs just to get another fan a ball won’t make the fan happy if someone is on base. Just in case you have the same problem in Seattle.

by Lweb23 on Mar 4, 2010 3:23 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

You have hit the nail on the head.

And I said this several times last year. MB should have known Chicago wasn’t the right personality fit for him and signed elsewhere.

You want big-market money? You accept that scrutiny, or stay in San Diego, Texas, or Seattle.

Bingo.

And taking potshots at the fanbase is way beyond “tacky”, but it’s what I have come to expect from this individual, who has throughout his major league career failed to take responsibility for his own actions.

I don’t expect this to change in the future, either.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Devil's advocate:

How many of us would turn down $30 million — more than he was offered by any other team — in a similar situation? Bradley KNEW that when he signed the deal, he and his family were pretty much set for life. And after the best season of his career, he probably thought he’d play well enough and be paid well enough that he’d be OK.

There’s no excuse for how he reacted after he started struggling, though.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Would they have been set for life with $16M?

And a chance at another contract?

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know MB's finances.

But I can understand the reasoning: MOST free agents sign for the biggest offer.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think that the devil can help Milton...

In the face of no other job offers, then I agree. But with interest from other teams, it make no sense.

When your personality is so at odds with your work atmosphere that even the thought of you going to work there raises eyebrows, maybe you need to think about a better fit. Especially when you’re as flammable as Bradley.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 4, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

in hindsight ...

that’s definitely the way he should have gone. But we DO have the benefit of hindsight.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, but

A lot of people had that in foresight. I’ll admit that I liked the signing at the time. I was wrong.

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Consider this...

My early entry for next year’s BCB Most Likely to Go BOOM! award, because I’ll tell you that that argument is BULLSHIT! Bloggers, writers, and baseball people all commented on what a terrible match this was not only after the deal was inked, but in many cases before.

By my estimation, there are three teams that Milton Bradley should never play for; Philly, the Mets, and the Cubs. That he thought different was simply arrogance and hubris on his part.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 4, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

What's the BCB Most Likely to Go BOOM! Award?

So you would have passed up $14 million? Just checking.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Me?

No. I would have taken the money, and kept my damn mouth shut. Actresses, porn stars, and athletes keep getting it in their heads that people are actually interested in their opinions. We aren’t. Speech is not why we love them.

But if I’m Milton Bradley, or have a similar personality? No way I come within 200 miles of Chicago.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 4, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, and

it’s:http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/2/14/1310641/the-envelope-please-the-first-ever.

I want a damn Hannie!! Don’t make me go all Kanye on you people.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 4, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

But Bradley doesn't have that sort of self-awareness or self-control.

If he did, he wouldn’t have his track record, would he?

Look, I’m not defending MB’s actions as a Cub. But Hendry’s the one who really messed up. He didn’t need to offer $30 million (well above any other team) to a known headcase who didn’t really fit needs the Cubs were desperate to fill — a left-handed hitting, middle of the order bat who could play right.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't get me started on that moron....

Who keeps proving too stupid to get out of his own way. But the Hendry conversation is for another day, as at least he acknowledges his part, as opposed to say, blaming the ticket-buying fans for having the audacity to actually want value for their dollars.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 4, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Like I said — I’m not justifying Bradley’s actions once he put on the uniform. But I don’t blame him for signing the contract. Getting mad at MB for not having common sense is like getting mad at a rock for being a rock.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

well, mostly agreed --

I don’t consider Hendry a moron.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Sigh...

I don’t always either. But today I do, as the most recent object of his mancrush desires flings verbal feces from 1000 miles away.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 4, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

you know

… there’s part of me that hopes Milton has a completely meltdown early in the year. Then, he’s the crazy Mariner (ready photos) not the crazy ex-Cub.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

he's already the crazy _______ be it Padre, Dodger, Athletic....

Which why Hendry was REALLY REALLY stupid for giving him a three year deal to be the crazy ex-cub

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 4, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd.

And I almost flagged this by accident.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 10, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Do the Cubs play the Mariners at Wrigley or at Safeco Field?

 If at Wrigley, I want all the fans to boo him, I want there to at least one game to go to extras, I want the games to be at day time, I want all the fans to shout “The Sun!” every time that the ball comes his way, and I want all the fans to show him why he will never want to play a full nine inning game at Wrigley again. After he goes 0 for 13 in the series, he might say this. “The reason that I committed so many errors, and why i struggled so much is not because of me, it’s because of Chicago. There’s something about this place that I just am never comfortable with. It can’t be me, it has to be Chicago.”
 But when he tears up US Cellular Field against the Sox(not that that’s gonna happen), he’ll have no answer.

by braziliancubsfan on Mar 4, 2010 4:36 PM CST reply actions  

It's at Safeco.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Should be a good chance for the fans willing

to head up there to bring their angst and anxiety towards MB, just to see if the local fans can actually defend the man.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Mar 11, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree ...

and made the same point about the role. But that’s only part of what he said. He’s not taking responsibility, and he’s saying EVERYTHING bad he’s done in the past was because he was disrespected.

Anyway, it’s hard to say whether the people calling for maiming (which is over the line) were the same who were talking about his role in Chicago being off.

by elgato on Mar 4, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Let me go on the record...

… I’m not one of those people calling for him to fail or to be maimed. That’s way over the top and not acceptable.

However, I’ll disagree with you. I didn’t see that quote as saying "I was brought in to fill a role in which I couldn’t succeed, and consequently had the worst season of my career", as you claim.

I read it as: “I performed poorly, but it’s not my fault, it’s everyone else’s BUT mine.” Not once has he EVER taken responsibility for his actions.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Lou even said

that no one asked for Bradley to hit 30 homeruns. Even some Cubs scouts confirmed that what Lou was said was true.

by braziliancubsfan on Mar 4, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Correct.

Which is why today’s statements to the NYT by MB are more of the same: “It’s everyone’s fault but mine.”

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

There is nothing to see here.

"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Mar 4, 2010 5:07 PM CST reply actions  

I still blame Hendry more than anybody else for this (including Milton)

The “due diligence” that he talked of last year in defending the move to its myriad detractors has already taken root in my mental list of infamous Chicago sports quotes.

One more thing: I fully expect Milton to have a “resurgent” year under the non-microscope that is the Seattle baseball landscape. He clearly can’t perform under any kind of pressure, take criticism, etc. so he’s in a great position to “excell” in the Pacific Northwest.

by bluekoolaide on Mar 4, 2010 6:19 PM CST reply actions  

I don't.

He’ll get hurt, or one of his teammates will say something sideways, or he’ll get off to a bad start and get criticized mildly in the Seattle media and blame them.

That’s been the story of his baseball career. To expect it to change after a decade in the major leagues is not understanding who this man is — a sad, angry man who’s wasting real baseball talent.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Man I love rippin on Milton!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 7:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I think Jeff Bridges should win the Oscar for Best Actor in CRAZY HEART.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 8:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It's because he's white, isn't it?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 8:40 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Damnit Shanghai.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 5, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

AGREED

He was excellent

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 5, 2010 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I defended MB

and now I don’t know why I did.

OK I don't know shit about basketball.

by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST

by sue369 on Mar 4, 2010 8:01 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Homer.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 4, 2010 8:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Marge.

you can’t get much by that #$%@ ballhawk -- LT

by Emelie on Mar 5, 2010 4:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Inal.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Mar 5, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Because you were hoping for the best

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 5, 2010 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

yes, hoping for best, which is what most Cubs fans do until it hurts.

"The only way to prove you are a good sport is to lose." Ernie Banks

by love the ivy on Mar 5, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks. That

pretty much sums it up. I’m hoping for the best for this years team too.

OK I don't know shit about basketball.

by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST

by sue369 on Mar 5, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too

I actually had arguments with people around this time last year where I defended the move and predicted that Bradley was going to have a career year in Wrigley.

I tend to always give Cubs management the benefit of the doubt. I’m not sure if that makes me an eternal optimist or a delusional idiot.

by bluekoolaide on Mar 5, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Because you were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt?

Many tried and so therefore I feel, many have failed.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Mar 11, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

This might actually be the more interesting quote

"Any time I’ve had a problem anywhere, it’s because I’ve been disrespected," said Bradley, who is playing for his eighth team in 11 seasons. "And I will not be disrespected by anyone."

For some reason it is not in the article that is linked but in a longer version in The Times.

I honestly have no anger towards Bradley. I sincerely hope he can manage his demons and do well, but he needs anger management help.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Mar 4, 2010 8:22 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

He'll never get it and he won't ever manage those demons.

Because clearly, he thinks his problems are everyone’s fault but his.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Milton's got 99 problems...

but none of them are his.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 4, 2010 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 4, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup, it's like he doesn't understand that when

he’s pointing his finger, three others are pointing back at him.

Or as my grandfather used to say, “God gave you 2 eyes + 2 ears but only 1 mouth, think about that”.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Mar 11, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

This.

He just seems like someone you can’t talk to about his faults, and that must translate to being almost uncoachable.

by owllover711 on Mar 5, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Gawd.

To think I was actually going to root for him to have a good year in Seattle (and I know what you’re thinking…“Gotta little Drewish in you?”).

But now I hope he fails miserably. F*cking self-centered prick.

by DMCub on Mar 4, 2010 8:29 PM CST reply actions  

During the season, I was a Bradley sympathizer

So to speak.

But this quote does indeed seem to me as if he were saying it’s all of MY (the average fan) fault that he didn’t do well. Which is kind of not cool, to say the least, considering I was actually rooting for him every day and would not mind overlooking his troubles as long as he played well. I didn’t mind him taking walks instead of getting RBI’s, I thought he was doing a fine job in that part.

But to try and avoid owning up to any mistakes or lack of production and blame us…well. That seems kind of childish.

As childish as his comments may have been, and as unfortunate as his time with the Cubs was, I wish him well in Seattle. Let us all move along and start watching Randy Wells and Ted Lilly tie for the NL Cy Young this year. :D

A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGANLE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!! GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!

by Azul Cachorro on Mar 4, 2010 8:35 PM CST reply actions  

ted lilly does not tie

he simply beats the opposition into submission

by jesus christos on Mar 4, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Milton

There has been one constant throughout your tumultuous career…..you.

by seattlecubsfan on Mar 4, 2010 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

What is it about Miltons? Never happy.

I said no salt, NO salt for the margarita, but it had salt on it, big grains of salt, floating in the glass…

"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Mar 5, 2010 8:04 AM CST reply actions  

MB's stench still lingers like a fart...

but eventually the air will clear as long as he stops polluting the internet with his idiotic methane blasts.

Milton’s horrific tenure, however, can still teach us all one thing: take responsibility when you fail. Almost all of us will make mistakes today and many of us will seek to affix blame on someone else. MB shows us in High Definition the perils of living like that. In general, just do the opposite of whatever he does and you’ll usually be ok! Thanks, Milt!

"I showed him the cheese then punched him out with the yakker." -- Eck

by kentmeister on Mar 5, 2010 8:43 AM CST reply actions  

Bradley....

…He’s dead to me!!

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Mar 5, 2010 9:05 AM CST reply actions  

I don't get it

Why does anyone even give a second glance to Milton Bradley and what happened with him in 2009? Seriously. It’s over with, move on. What good comes of wishing him well, wishing him failure, wishing him injured, wishing him traded to a division rival….I mean seriously, if someone harbors some misguided belief that seeing him fail will somehow make you feel better…you’ve got other issues to deal with.

Bradley is a professional baseball player…nothing more, nothing less. Despite his apparent belief that people actually care what he says, and by the looks of things, perhaps he’s actually correct…he’s paid to put up numbers, not redraft the Magna Carta. Take him for what he is, a professional athlete, and that’s that. I can’t fathom holding an opinion that he somehow personally scorned anyone with his performance in 2009 or what he says several months after the fact.

I’m certainly not the morality police and am not defending Bradley or anyone else but some of you need to check yourselves at the door if you get that nutty over someone who you don’t know personally, will never share in his fortune and more than likely will never cross paths with.

Get over him. Move on.

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by krummy12 on Mar 5, 2010 9:09 AM CST reply actions  

It's spring training. We've played exactly one game

other than having the 97th discussion about who will be the fifth starter, there isn’t much to talk about right now.

So when Bradley opens his yap, and says something asinine, a discussion will be had.

I always love the people who jump into a discussion, only to say we shouldn’t be having a discussion

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 5, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Yawn

Talk about it until you’re blue in the face. Common sense and logic says to avoid it but hey, you do what you have to.

Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?

by krummy12 on Mar 5, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I also love the people who actually post "Yawn"

if you’re so bored, why post at all?

People spending time on the internet, trying to tell everyone else how precious their time is often come off looking pretty silly.

Yours is a case in point

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 7, 2010 4:49 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

He's kinda big deal.

He invented board games like MONOPOLY and CLUE and DOUBLE TROUBLE.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 6, 2010 7:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Also some more obscure games like...

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by katie casey on Mar 6, 2010 7:40 AM CST up reply actions  

lol...

But the one game MB will never be is Sorry!…

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on Mar 9, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

well played!

"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Mar 9, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

quit crying

we all know its never bradleys fault.. shame on you people. ( sarcasm)’’’’’’’

by NOMAR on Mar 6, 2010 8:26 AM CST reply actions  

The only Milton that matters on here

is sign guy Milton, and I’ll be more than happy to see lots of him this season.

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by Craig in South Bend on Mar 7, 2010 12:17 PM CST reply actions  

Here you go...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 7, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha

Nice

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by Craig in South Bend on Mar 7, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

but Bonnie Bernstein is still my fav…

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Mar 11, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

He's everywhere!

Photobucket

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Mar 7, 2010 3:28 PM CST reply actions  

I think we have a new kids book...

Where’s Milton?!

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on Mar 9, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

On my computer's screen


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze

by eths on Mar 10, 2010 7:25 AM CST up reply actions  

did any one think he would change?

Besides Hendry? I threw up the day we signed him and wept like a a baby when we dumped him. When exactly was he good?

13- Warner, 23- Sandberg, 40- Tillman, 11- Walter

by TBru on Mar 8, 2010 2:46 AM CST reply actions  

I mean

if Rocky changed the Russians, then it’s certainly conceivable that Chicago could have changed MB.

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by Craig in South Bend on Mar 8, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm waiting for Milton's ESPN interview...

…to hit BCB like a tsunami.

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by daver on Mar 10, 2010 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

a friend of mine next cube over just mentioned it to me ..

MB’s terminal infection of self-centered persecution complexity is beyond the capacity to behold .. I’m not sure I want to watch this ..

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4980983

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

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by cubnational on Mar 10, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

For the Cubs or in general?

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by daver on Mar 11, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

As a ballplayer or an adult?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 11, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

at taking responsibility or being a good team mate.

" It’s spring fever - you don’t know what it is you want, but it fairly makes your heart ache, you want it so. "--Mark Twain

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 11, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Never.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 11, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that is a key distinction.

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by daver on Mar 11, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Again, why do we care?

He’s gone! Great! Hopefully Hendry won’t make yet another big-money F/U signing.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Mar 11, 2010 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

because at the moment, he just trashed my city and my team again,

didnt your parents ever tell you that you should stick up for yourself and/or defend what is dear to you? mine did,

" It’s spring fever - you don’t know what it is you want, but it fairly makes your heart ache, you want it so. "--Mark Twain

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 11, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

If someone I respected did that, I'd stick up for myself

But this is just one player, in gigantic self-pity mode, that does nothing but piss everyone off wherever he goes. I cannot possibly respect that kind of person or what they say.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Mar 11, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

April 23, 24, and 25 & July 26, 27, 28 and 29.

Those will be the Mariners’ two appearances in Chicago this year, to play the White Sox at the Cell.

It’ll be real interesting to hear the reaction to MB when he plays there.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 11, 2010 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

Only a thousand suns?

I was thinking more like an infinite amount of suns and supernovas.

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