Going For Three In A Row: Cubs vs. White Sox, Saturday 3/6, 2:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2010 12:00 PM CST
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Even with two wins in a row, we now have to be concerned because Angel Guzman and Jeff Gray both have injury woes that may keep both of them from being ready for Opening Day. Bruce Miles explains why the Cubs didn't sign Kiko Calero, even though they had said they were interested in a veteran reliever:
In any event, GM Jim Hendry will step up his efforts to land a veteran righty for the pen. That reliever, if Hendry can get him, most likely will come through a trade and not free agency. The Cubs, from what I was told, didn’t like the medicals on Kiko Calero, who signed with the Mets.
So that means the Cubs may look again at Jason Frasor or Luke Gregerson. The Cubs were rumored to be interested in those relievers last month. Frasor has a pretty big contract ($2.65 million) that the Cubs might not want. According to Gordo, Jim Hendry has the Cubs scouting just about everyone:
"In a perfect world, we would [add a pitcher]," Hendry said. ''We're doing no different than we always do. We've got every game, every club scouted in Florida, as well as out here. If there's something to be made, we will. It's not easy to make a quality camp deal. So we'll keep our eyes open."
Said [Lou] Piniella: "Jim's trying. I know he's told me we have scouts following a couple teams in particular. If he can get something done, he will. We'll see where that goes. If not, we'll just have to do it with what we've got here."
Speaking of large contracts, I'm going to throw this one out for discussion. There's a certain Cleveland reliever who's available:
Cleveland reportedly is willing to deal ex-Cub Kerry Wood, but Wood's $10.5 million salary is above the Cubs' budget.
So here's the question: if the Indians were willing to eat most of that contract in trade, would you bring Wood back? Personally, I'd consider it.
More on today's matchup after the jump.
Please put the pitchforks and torches away, even though Carlos Silva will be the Cubs' starter this afternoon. Maybe he won't suck. He will be followed by Carlos Marmol, James Russell, Andrew Cashner, Jeff Kennard, and John Grabow. The reason Marmol (probably) throws in the third inning is so he can face major league hitters -- this is common practice with closers early in spring training.
Daniel Hudson will start for the White Sox. It's a split-squad game for them, so don't expect too many Sox regulars to play.
Today's game is on WGN-TV with Len & Bob. It's also on WGN radio with Pat & Ron. Here's the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
First pitch thread will post at 2 pm CST. An overflow thread will post at 3:15 CST.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Of course one would consider bringing Wood back if the Indians footed a good chunk of the bill.
My (sick today) gut tells me this won’t happen, alas.
awww hope you feel better soon, chilango
> ::chicken soup:: <————-
you can’t get much by that #$%@ ballhawk -- LT
Had too much food last night.
So it’s entirely my fault. I’m having my first bowl of soup right now. Thank you! How’s the Arctic?
Forget soup
I’m making four-cheese ravioli with herbed-beef marinara sauce. All from scratch, baby.
It smells like heaven in here right now.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Cheese was what did me in...
Mozzarella e prosciutto, followed by a fontina and arugula pizza, finished off by a tiramisu, from here.
I only have the mooz
But it’s mixed in with some ricotta, parm, and provolone. And parsley, basil, and chives.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
yes yes yes
and YES
BRING WOODY BACK .. and i was almost FIRST and wasn’t logged in to be so!
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Bringing Wood back
is not a bad idea, if the Indians can eat most of the contract. I am interested in how Cahsner will do today
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Cashner, he he
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Not going to happen and
If it does, in order to get the tribe to eat a significant portion of his contract, we are going to have to send some real good prospects their way.
Maybe they will take their 3 pitchers back we got from them last year?
I am sure we could bet our a$$ that Kerry would take a pay cut to come back here if it was possible.
I would love to have Kerry Wood back.
Im sure that we are the one team Kerry would love to go to. Lets trade for him for silva, straight up. We can thrown in 3-4 million. haha, I wish. But I can’t wait for the game today to be on TV. I hope Castro starts. From what I understand Soriano will make his spring debut. I hope we get to see Colvin maybe in right today? And finally, I can’t wait to see how terrible Carlos Silva is.
Lineup per Muskat:
SS Theriot, RF Fukudome, 1B Lee, 3B Ramirez, CF Byrd, LF Soriano, DH Hoffpauir, C Soto, 2B Scales
Scales,
oh how we missed you!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Some random dude's in LF today
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
not batting leadoff though
WHEW!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Why would we want Bobby Scales in LF over Soriano?
Soriano can carry a team. Bobby Scales can’t carry his jock.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Wow
This is the closest thing we will see to the Opening Day lineup for awhile in my opinion. Just sub Hoffpauir for Zambrano (equally capable of hitting =p) and Baker at 2b. Lou is showcasing what he’s got for the TV audience today! And he knows, of course, we want to brag towards the southsiders.
I assume Scales is playing because Fontenot is not available.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Bring Kerry back...
Cleveland is not going anywhere, and they want to move him.
Al, do you think there is any way this is possible?
Depends on how much of the contract they'd be willing to eat.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Cleveland may eat SOME salary but not like they are going to eat 8 million
I love Kerry and I would love to have him back, but I don’t see it working. Also I believe next year has vested so is it not
20 million?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
How much is Silva on the hook for?
Obviously, a Silva for Wood swap would not happen, but if you could package Silva with a prospect or two, could it happen?
Obviously, this is just pure hope on my part that Wood comes back. :(
yikes
I like Kerry Wood, but let’s not go overboard.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 6, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
There would have to be some money involved
Silva’s contract is worth another $23m, plus a $2m buyout. A few prospects wouldn’t bridge that $12.5m gap.
I think this is third Yankee game this week
Suprise.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 6, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Because you can
never get enough of the Yankees, at least according to ESPN
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
The Yankees are very, very important!
They’re like America’s Team – everyone loves them!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Wait I thought the Red Sox
was Amerca’s team? So confused.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
no
americas team 1920ish-2004 yankees
americas team 2004-2009 red sox
americas team 2009-present yankees
by jesus christos on Mar 6, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Nice diversity there.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I think the Red Sox stopped being America's team after the second championship
When everyone decided Sox Nation was even more annoying than that of the Yankees.
You know,
That would be us if we ever break this and won 2 in a few years. Of course, as much as some dislike the Sox for thier success, the Yanks are much more hated.
no way!! .
I dont think the Red Sox were as much of America’s team as the Cubs in the first place. IMO
by cooliogirl47 on Mar 8, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
The Red Sox are good
They are the only team allowed to occasionally beat the universally-loved Yankees!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
IF it makes you feel better,
A.J. Burnett didn’t make it out of the 2nd. Jays up 2-0 and still at-bat.
Are the Cubs on WGN superstation today???
I must know this!
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
My cable guide says yes
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Millar isn't channeling Abe Lincoln. He's growing it on his way to this:
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
It's because now everyone knows he is clean from the drugs
He can concentrate on playing baseball and kissing Madonna
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
He should stick with baseball, more fun, he he
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Silva
This is the start to see if Silva is a serviceable option for the Cubs. It may just be Spring Training, however, this is important for Silva to have a decent game. A decent game can make him a candidate to replace Guzman.
Let’s hope that he does well.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
I agree, he needs to pitch well
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
On to plan B.
Hey, good batting practice pitchers are always needed too. It’ll save Tram’s arm over a long season…
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
Real real shame
He really showed his full potential last year.
Guzman is a goner almost certainly now
http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/36_guzman_out_with_torn_ligame.html
"The only way to prove you are a good sport is to lose." Ernie Banks
That's really a shame.
Nice kid, tremendous talent, it’s just too bad he had so many injuries.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Man, that is terrible.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
I would not bring Kerry Wood back
If he’s not being effective it would pain me to see him struggle in a Cubs uniform.
by ak123 on Mar 6, 2010 1:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No way Wood would be effective enough to warrant his fat salary
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 6, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
He would be more effective than Guzman at this point
Then again, so would Silva.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
so would you
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 7, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
True.
I’d do it only if the Indians would pick up most of the deal.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Another team might offer more than the Cubs for Wood
another team may be in need of a closer, still view Wood as a closer, and therefore be willing to pick up more contract than the Cubs do. If so, then he goes elsewhere. Cubs only get him if they value him more than anybody else. 5-1 against it happening-but I would love to see KW return.
by holy mackeral on Mar 7, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
Same
I need a break from the Bulls for a while. Eagerly awaiting these broadcasted ST games.
"I don't want a massage, I want a facial!" - Stacy King
by windycitywarrior on Mar 6, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
LMAO
I’m watching this game, too, waiting for the Cubs to start.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm watching Law and Order: Who Cares Anymore?
Patiently waiting…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
As long as it's not the Cubs writing his checks
I’m ok with the guy getting paid.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
does the ex-Cub factor still work?
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 7, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
[ calls mom in hospital, tells her the Cubs are on the air ]
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
For your mom's sake, I hope the Cubs win today.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Actually winning it all in October works as well.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
hey, im from the suburbs,
and i am now out in iowa city for college. can i get the game on wgn america?
My cable guide tells me that I can
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
First Pitch Thread is live. Click the pic to
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Re: Guzman
Do you guys think that this injury could be related to overuse last year?
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2010 2:02 PM CST reply actions
55 games, 61 innings...
Looks as if he was handled as carefully as can be in a setup role.
"C'mon Freeman, throw the ball somewhere!" Brickhouse, incensed, 5/15/58
"Welcome to Wrigley Field, Mr. Bah-oo-tah!" Brickhouse, rubbing it in, 7/6/60
He was not overused, so no I don't
Guzman, sadly, has a great talent but is one of the guys who just cannot stay healthy for whatever reason
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 7, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
i would
bring back kerry in a second. could only help the pen. but not at 10 mill. im sure kerry misses chicago and regrets signing with cleveland. maybe one of the kids can replace guzman.
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