RonnieWooWoo
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 6, 2010 3:00 PM CST
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Ok, So I have been following this site for the last couple of months and I just recently began posting some comments. My name is Ron, so I put my name as RonnieWoowoo2 Without giving it much thought. I have been noticing a lot of posters unhappy with the name. Just hoping someone can provide some insight as to why he is hated so much. he seems pretty harmless to me and I don't know him, but I do know he is a Cubs Fan so I automatically must respect him for this.
I actually have met him twice at the game. Last year it was at Miller Park and he was nice enough to take a picture with my son. My son though it was awesome because with Ronnie in full uniform he thought he was a retired player or coach. Didn't want to crush his happiness so I went with it. But seriously some help. What is the deal? If I get a reasonable reason other than his annoying WOOWOOWOO, I will change my screenname.
Thanks.
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Dude, keep your screenname...
You do what you do, and let others deal with it.
As for your namesake, you either love him, or hate him. I think most hate him, but he’s got a hardcore, cult following, so there will always be arguments about him. My experience? Occasional visitors to Wrigley like him. They think the %$%@ is colorful. Come to enough games, and get him yelling in your ear for a hour too many times though, and you won’t like him so much either.
you said it perfectly
and touched on all bases
1. he is not a bad person
2. it is more annoyance than hatred for many
3. keep the name
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Keep the Name
As long as you follow the team, and he follows the team, and you don’t spend your time at games talking and not paying attention…you’re both okay with me.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
I'm an occasional visitor to Wrigley...
and I can’t stand the guy. Seriously, what’s to be impressed with? I think many people’s problems with the guy is that he becomes (and seemingly to his delight) synonymous with the team and the fans. There’s many other fans that have had season tickets their entire life and are completely dedicated to the team but the idiot who screams incessantly is the one the media thinks deserves attention.
That said, it’s your screen name so it’s your choice.
Attention
Ok, I get it. It’s kinda like he is trying to hard for attention so it is annoying. That I can understand. And as Damen put it. Yes the constant woowoowoowowoo if you are in ears reach can be aggravated enough to want to push him onto the field. Like I said though, I use the name because my name is Ron, not because I am a fan of Mr. WooWoo. Thanks for the input.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 6, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
As others have said, it's your user name - do what you want
However, if you’re searching for a way to work “Ron” into your user name, you could always pay homage to Mr. Santo.
“Ronnie’sGamerTwo” or something to that effect.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
well, we have SantosWoodenLegs
why not RonniesToupee
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Clever, Cubbie-Tim. Lol.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
You'll have to mention something about it being on fire, though.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
Maybe
RonniesFlamingToupee?
- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.
another i am not touching lol
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i always wondered how different things would be
if i was bobbrenlysmustache
by jesus christos on Mar 6, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
...
no, not going there…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 6, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
not touching that one
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Jesus.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Mar 7, 2010 11:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You said it man.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Mar 7, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
I see what you did there
Nobody does stuff to Mr. Jesus
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
I don't honestly care about the name
I made a comment earlier today more as a friendly poke at Al than anything else.
As far as the self-appointed mascot goes – I can’t stand him. He’s an attention whore, and I don’t get why twenty-something women like getting pictures with him while he gropes them. The schtick is incredibly annoying.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
True
I agree Shanghai, it is idiots like them who make other teams fans think all Cubs fans are here for Beer and Wrigley Field. That could not be further from the truth.
BTW, was not offended by that, just curious as to the negative feelings towards the guy.
Especially, as how Blou said heis mentally handi-capped. AS I said after meeting him on two occasions, there is definetely some issues there.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 6, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Cool - I meant no offense to you and glad you took none.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 6, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
As far as the mentally handicapped issues go - I'm not qualified to say either way
I know this – he’s generated a lot of money for someone. I hope he hasn’t been taken advantage of.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 6, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Even though...
A lot of them ARE there for beer and Wrigley.
by zam on Mar 7, 2010 6:58 AM CST up reply actions
Sad
Ronnie Woo Woo is a human being who suffers from mental illness and is need of professional care. Yet the drunken assclown frat boys who go to Wrigley and like to hang around weaing backwards baseball caps outside the park have adopted Ronnie as their mascot. Which is sad, pathetic and reprehensible behavior.
Ronnie needs professional care. Not to serve as entertainment feature. I for the life of me have never understood why somebody hasn’t tried to get him the help he needs.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
by BLou on Mar 6, 2010 3:36 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Do you know that noone's tried to get him help?
Or are you speaking as a guess-speaking hack again. I have a family member who suffers from a mental illness and for years we “tried to get him the help he needs.” He didn’t want it until he finally had a lucid enough moment where he realized he needs it. Just because we he wasn’t getting the help doesn’t mean people weren’t trying. And do you think that Ronnie doesn’t enjoy the attention? It probably makes him pretty happy. If he doesn’t want treatment, I’m happy to give him laughter (since it is the best medicine).
And this is me assuming that Ronnie does have a mental illness, which is a pretty rude thing for me to do in the first place.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton
by Beaushek on Mar 6, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I could care less about your sanctimonous blather
Ronnie Woo Woo is an unstable human being who is the object of humor and exploitation by some Cub fans. It’s disgusting and reprehensible. The man needs help, not to serve as a defacto mascot for a core of shameful Wrigley Field attendees.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Have you ever spoken with him?
Maybe his attendance at games is the only thing that makes him feel normal.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 6, 2010 4:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your constant notions that you're an expert on everything
are getting old. He hasn’t attacked anyone. He hasn’t assaulted anyone. So he doesn’t NEED help. You might think he does. From what I can tell, he doesn’t think he does.
He loves being the center of attention. I feel no shame providing it to him because he loves it.
And by the way, it’s kind of hard to hear how you could “care less about my sanctimonious blather” when you respond to my post. It’s also funny that you call my post sanctimonious when you’re condemning thousands of people a day for laughing at someone who want to be laughed at.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton
Sickening
The lowest form of human being in the person who exploits the disabled and the less fortunate for his / her own entertainment value.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
How is he being exploited. He wants to be there, he gets free stuff. If anything, he’s exploiting his own celebrity. How is anyone but Ronnie gaining anything material off of Ronnie? And if you say he shouldn’t be laughed at, yet again, he obviously wants to be laughed at.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton
Ronnie Woo-Woo is many things
but I don’t think he’s being exploited. He gets free tickets, someone paid to fix his teeth, there’s a damn documentary made about him. He’s not a homeless guy living on the streets, sleeping in his uniform.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 6, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
He's been sponging off others for a long time.
It’s pretty obnoxious, actually, as are his actions toward others. He has made unwanted touches to women, stands next to you and yells and screams even when asked politely to stop, and generally makes a PITA out of himself.
He’s all about himself, not about the Cubs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
harassment
Al, I certainly do not condone that kind of behaviour towards women. Are we sure that it is not harmless due to his mental condition. I mean what evidence of this do you have or is it hearsay. If he is going off grabbing a**es and breast than that is definetly a problem that Cubs security would need to address
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
assuming he has a mental condition
it wouldn’t matter if it were due to that or not. The simple action cannot be allowed, no matter the motive.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I can personally attest to his tendency to make moves on women even if you just talk to him. That was years ago when I thought he was entertaining.
And then I was on a plane with him a few years ago coming back from Ryno’s HOF induction.
Because Fox Entertainment has been posessed by Cheese Smokie Monsters Bones returns in April so B&B have to wait.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 8, 2010 5:26 AM CST up reply actions
The rumors shared with me by bartenders around
Wrigleyville is he will go into bars around last call to chat up the ladies who’ve been there too long to take care of themselves. In full uniform, of course. I’ll leave the rest of the details out.
may addition by subtraction be real
You mean he hits on drunk girls?
Arrest him!
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
And yet, you think you're above us.
So according to your views, you are doing just that to us.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
Another thought:
He loves being the center of attention.
And given the poster you’re responding to, he’s clearly not alone.
you make that diagnoses
through the television screen there, Blather?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 6, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
is an unstable human being who is the subject of humor and exploitation by some Cubs fans
Are you sure you’re not talking about yourself?
Sorry couldn’t myself…
Wait, who are you talking about?
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 8, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Your'e not qualified to make statements like that
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
If it's about Ronnie
I’m sure he’s living a much happier life with all the attention than he would without
He is a skanky lech
I am sorry but it is true and the Cubs really need to watch this as it is a lawsuit waiting to happen. I doubt he even knows the score to games he is at. He is NOT a real fan in an yway. Those of you who find him harmless or amusing probably do not attend a lot of games in person and are definately not female.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
He's an unstable human being
He deserves compassion and professional help. But instead he is openly exploited. What happens if Ronnie snaps someday and does something truly awful? Like drag a young woman into an alley and rape her? Or pull out a blade or a gun? Or hurts himself either willingly or by accident? Will everybody get a chuckle out of that too?!?!
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
You are kinder than I am
I don’t think he is unstable at all. I think he just exploits people with his silly act. I have no reason to think he is mentally ill. He is clever enough to make a living with his act. He likes to kiss and feel up women and seeing that as some kind of illness is just an excuse. You are correct that the Cubs and a variety of drunken or stupid fans enable him, but that just makes me angry at them and him.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 6, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
and its because so many people stick up for him that anyone is afraid to confront him....
he was strange (that way) years ago
He's Not Exploited
He’s a guy that gets up every day during baseball season and gets to feel like a celebrity. If he wanted to he could easily stop going to the games. His income isn’t coming from hanging out at the ballpark. The Cubs have made it clear that they don’t want much to do with him. So he’s not being exploited. He came up with his schtick and continues to do what he wants. Nobody is exploiting anyone here.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
You are not qualified to make statements about a person like that
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Just don't change your name
to LouBleu
Numbers may not lie, but they don’t tell the whole truth (and nothing but the truth), either. -- Doug Glanville
I guess the acronym HWSNBNH just went out the door
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Don't get me started about this individual.
About the nicest thing I could say about him is that he’s annoying.
About the screen name, it was an unfortunate choice. If you’d like to change it, email me and I can get that done for you.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
See you're in the Bleachers
and Ronnie might be annoying to you.
But it’s humorous when Ronnie is in the Bleachers, and you’re in the grandstand. Safe distance.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 6, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
I've had him next to me in the grandstand.
Not fun.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
You know how Ronnie gets into the games?
I’ve heard that Cubs players have been known to leave Ronnie a ticket for games.
I’ll admit, I’m a guy and it was cute when I was younger (for about 1 cheer) and in the bleachers. But would I want him sitting next to me and my daughter. Absolutely not.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 8, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
IIRC...
… when Mark Grace was a Cub, he used to pay HWSNBN’s way to Arizona for spring training.
Guess Grace never had to sit next to him for an hour listening to him yell in his ear.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Or have HWSNBN saddle up next to him when Grace was hitting on a woman at a bar
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 8, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
maybe
Ronnie was his wingman.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 8, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Ronnie as your wingman
could drive women to play for the other team
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 8, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
And we're not talking about the White Sox here!
I need to get to Opening Day and see some baseball.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 8, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Ahh Mark Grace
The man who condoned “Slump Busting” by taking home the fat/ugly girl to break out of a slump.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Can you change mine?
I would like to change mine if possible since it’s now so outofdate. If you can’t don’t worry about it.
Because Fox Entertainment has been posessed by Cheese Smokie Monsters Bones returns in April so B&B have to wait.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 8, 2010 5:28 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks AL
Al you’ll hear from me in a day or so. I’m trying to decide between a couple of ideas.
Because Fox Entertainment has been posessed by Cheese Smokie Monsters Bones returns in April so B&B have to wait.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 8, 2010 7:51 AM CST up reply actions
It would be tough to find a less representative "Cubs fan" than Ronnie Woo Woo,
with the possible exception of George Will.
"C'mon Freeman, throw the ball somewhere!" Brickhouse, incensed, 5/15/58
"Welcome to Wrigley Field, Mr. Bah-oo-tah!" Brickhouse, rubbing it in, 7/6/60
by ernaga on Mar 6, 2010 6:13 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yes, agreed on that.
Glad to see you here, cg47.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
go away you big meanie you
:=)
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guess i better hope it sticks
sine mom always said not to make faces, your face might stay that way forever
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Did I ever tell you........
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You should read Will's books on the Cubs
politics aside, he is a good baseball writer.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 6, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
Pompous and predictable whether discussing sports or politics...
NeoCub George has done as much as any media figure to promote and profit from the Cubs Cult of Losing. While Ronnie Woo Woo generally is a problem only for those unlucky fans in his immediate vicinity, George Will reinforces Cubs myths in the public at large with every gentlemanly twitch of his bowtie each time he discusses the Cubs with good-natured embarrassment on national TV.
To prove he isn’t really a Cardinals fan, let’s hear him say something along the following lines the next time Steffi starts kidding him about his "Cubbies": "Enough already with your phony curses. This team was cursed with 82 years of corrupt and inept leadership. As far as I’m concerned, that rooftop jackass with the Eamus Catuli sign can set the damn thing back to zero. This is Year One!"
"C'mon Freeman, throw the ball somewhere!" Brickhouse, incensed, 5/15/58
"Welcome to Wrigley Field, Mr. Bah-oo-tah!" Brickhouse, rubbing it in, 7/6/60
Will should just turn to Stephanopoulos and say
“Who do you root for, shorty? The Orioles? Enjoy fourth place again, loser.”
That I would enjoy.
"There's more to life than profits...like, you know, slurpees and stuff." ~Randy Marsh
fans
SO I should change my screen name to Vince Vaughn or John Cusack?
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Or Bill Murray, Pat Sajak, Jimmy Buffett
John Mahoney, Jim Belushi . . . no, maybe not.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 7, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Once Again...
Don’t change it. The minute you feel the need to change it is the minute this board starts becoming one of those other Cubs boards where everyone must have the same opinion about everything.
I previously frequented one where everyone worshiped Matt Murton, bagged on Ryan Theriot, and the only reason to watch the games was to be able to recite every Saber stat and to root for players for any other reason other than their OPS was frowned upon. And if you didn’t know EVERY one of their inside jokes you couldn’t understand a single post. This board seems different but Ronnie is one of those touchy subjects that seems to bring out the mob.
So feel free to keep the name. And while you’re at it, feel free to enjoy Ronnie Woo Woo when you’re at the games. There are much bigger pests that don’t even bother trying to work while this guy washes windows to survive. Yeah, people have given him a hand out from time to time. But you won’t find him laying in a doorway begging for change. The fact that he roots for the Cubs makes it even better.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 6, 2010 6:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
But he's not really rooting for the Cubs.
It’s all about him. All about getting attention for himself. As noted above, he has touched women without permission and screamed in people’s ears even when asked politely to stop. He’ll sit down next to you whether you want him to or not.
Make no mistake — he’s all about Ronnie, not about the Cubs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I disagree...
And so would a lot of the fans in attendance. Not every fan is going to be just like you or me. Cub fans come in all shapes and sizes. Yes, some of them can be a little more annoying than others, however, they’re still Cub fans and they’re still welcome at Wrigley.
He’s having a good time and enjoying his celebrity status. The most I’ve ever heard of the guy asking for is a Coke. He’s received hand outs from people but he’s not a beggar. If he’s touched women inappropriately, and it bothered them, they should have told security. I’m sure that this would have been in the media by now with 81 opportunities for him per year. Now, if he’s inappropriate towards women and they don’t seem to mind or care, why should I? He wouldn’t be the first guy to inappropriately touch a drunk woman. As far as sitting down next to people, the bleachers are fair game and until he starts screaming profanities or racial epithets then that’s fair game as well. I highly doubt he is putting his lips directly next to anyone’s ears and may just be in the general area of someone not wanting to hear it.
Many people enjoy Ronnie Woo Woo and his cheering. He’s got a charming personality and never turns down a request for a photo or a “Woo Woo” chant on a friend’s voice mail. He’s going about life and trying to enjoy himself and tries to bring joy to others in the process.
Sure, if I had to listen to it day after day it might get annoying, however, 1. I don’t have that luxury to hear him everyday and 2. I’m certainly not going to refer to him by an acronym or think of him as a lesser human being. He’s still a Cubs fan.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
To each his or her own.
I find him intensely annoying, very selfish, all about himself, and not really a Cubs fan. He’s a self-promoter.
Incidentally, the Cubs have a “no costumes” rule at Wrigley Field. HWSNBN is not a baseball player. Why is he permitted to parade around in full uniform? (Yes, I know many people wear jerseys, but no one wears the baseball pants, except him.) There are many people he fools into thinking he used to be a player.
There are women I’ve seen who HAVE objected to the touching, but security does nothing about it. It’s assault, and it’s happened many times.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Absolutely..
To each his own. That’s what I love about your site Al…open discussions without assuming everyone has to have the same opinion or they be met with personal attacks. Ronnie “Woo Woo” Wickers is different things to different people.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Anyone that touches women inappropriately without their permisison
is committing sexual assault. There is no middle ground on this. This isn’t an area where you form opinions or have room for “different things to different people”.
Where are these personal attacks you allege Al or anyone else is committing against you?
You are correct.
The next time I see him do this, I will contact the police.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Both
You are both correct, my feeling however is if it is as serious a problem as you say it is, then he would have been outed on the news, or at the least arrested for saxual assault.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
used to be a lot of that out on Waveland a few years ago
This guy would show up about the 3rd inning or so, unpack his saxophone, and play until the charter buses show up. Well, if you can call the themes from “Sanford & Son” and “The Simpsons” playing…
Oh, and don’t forget a rousing rendition of Pee-Wee Herman’s “Tequila”. Ugh…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I never understood that guy
I went to a couple of games and would hear him start playing right outside the bleacher entrance. When I looked down, I could see no foot traffic around him at all – everyone was either in the park or in a bar watching the game. Wouldn’t it make far more sense to busk before or after the games when foot-traffic was much higher?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Al, did you see enough of those instances to understand WHY security did nothing?
Not that I want something like that to happen again, but I’m sure it will. And if it does, and that person objects and reports him to security and security does nothing, I sincerely hope someone takes down that security person’s name and follows up with the Cubs afterwards. Explain what happened in a straightforward, calm, “just the facts, ma’am” manner, and give the Cubs every opportunity to explain why they choose to do nothing.
I’d be most interested in hearing their response.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Yes, I have seen this happen dozens of times, if not hundreds.
It’s always the same. He’s “popular”, so security is powerless. They need to be given the power of ejection. Not just for this, but for ANY idiot behavior in the bleachers.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
are you saying this is a Mike Hill decision, i.e. he chooses to do nothing?
Again, I would like to see someone take this up with the Cubs, following the appropriate chain of command, i.e. whatever they call their “customer service” department these days. Provide a date, the name of the security person involved, and a brief description of the offense.
Also again, I’d be most interested in hearing why the Cubs allow this kind of stuff to happen. And then I’d come back here and write it up. And on the few times I actually go in for the games, if I ever see this happening, I will do exactly this.
For better or worse, the Cubs should be held accountable for allowing this kind of activity. If it’s no big deal and we’re all exaggerating it, then I want to hear the Cubs say that. If it is a big deal, but for legal (or other) reasons, the Cubs can’t do much about it, then I want to hear them say that as well. Frankly, I don’t really care one way or the other as he’s not groping me or anyone I know and care about – I just want the Cubs on the record.
Ricketts wants accountability – so do I.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Yes, I agree with you.
It’s not just this individual — it’s all kinds of idiot behavior. The typical scenario has been: security takes the person downstairs, talks to them for five minutes, then lets them back in the bleachers as long as they promise to behave. Message: “Hey! We can do anything we want!”
In fairness, security ejected a lot more people last year, mainly for underage drinking. But I think ANY idiot behavior should be punished with ejection — no discussion, no excuses. They do this at Yankee Stadium and that eliminates virtually all the idiot behavior.
I hope security is tighter than ever in 2010. It’s time to send the message that people have to behave at the ballpark.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
The "stern lecture"...........
………..is a waste of time, and repeat offenders know the system.
I’m sure the “fan ambassadors” now employed by the Cubs will only work to continue the “friendly” experience at Wrigley.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
Maybe
Maybe an open letter to Tom Ricketts would help.
Because Fox Entertainment has been posessed by Cheese Smokie Monsters Bones returns in April so B&B have to wait.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 8, 2010 7:52 AM CST up reply actions
And to Counter...
Does anyone really feel that the Cubs organization classifies their uniform as a costume or that they would ever consider telling a fan that he couldn’t wear it to the game? I’ve seen little kids dressed in full garb before. I have no objection to him wearing the Cubs uniform to games.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Uniform
Personally, I think anyone should be able to wear the full uniform, As far as the no costumes rule, I am pretty sure that is regarding masks mostly. or halloween type costumes.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
He’s having a good time and enjoying his celebrity status. The most I’ve ever heard of the guy asking for is a Coke
They sell Pepsi at Wrigley Field ;)
What we Cubs fans should live by: "I found that if you have a goal, that you might not reach it. But if you don't have one, then you are never disappointed. And I gotta tell ya... it feels phenomenal" ---Vince Vaughn in Dodgeball
woops, messed up the block quote. oh well....
but I respect everyone’s opinion and again, to each his/her own. i don’t know if ronnie’s presence at wrigley will increase or decrease over the year’s, so i guess, as much as we all may or may not dislike him, we might just have to deal with it. i, for one, think he’s incredibly annoying, but there’s really nothing i can do about it.
What we Cubs fans should live by: "I found that if you have a goal, that you might not reach it. But if you don't have one, then you are never disappointed. And I gotta tell ya... it feels phenomenal" ---Vince Vaughn in Dodgeball
Well Ronnie is
not at as many games as he used to be. I remember going to Cubs games as a kid in the 80’s and a teenager and young adult in the 90’s and I remember seeing Ronnie at almost every game.
Unfortunately I have been living in Florida most of this decade and only hit Wrigley 4-6 times a summer and on average I have only seen him once or twice a year, so his attendance has declined over the years.
As a kid, I always thought he was a former player and the adults in my family never told me different. I guess it was just easier for them to let me believe that instead of trying to figure out and then explain what Ronnie Woo Woo’s deal is.
by MrShowtime on Mar 6, 2010 10:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's an interesting perspective...
Also, his attendence has probably declined due to the extreme increase in ticket prices from the 1980s to now. That’s also probably why he’s been trying to nab free tickets from a lot of people now
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Oh man, you couldn't be more wrong
He’s got a charming personality and never turns down a request for a photo or a "Woo Woo" chant on a friend’s voice mail. He’s going about life and trying to enjoy himself and tries to bring joy to others in the process.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Do you have any arguments
To back it up or are you just going to say Im wrong?
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 7, 2010 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with BeerCub.
I’ve had enough dealings with the individual in question to know he’s correct.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
See my post below
Matter of fact, I think you did, so why this?
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
The only reason I would ever have him woo woo on a friends voice mail is if I didn’t want to have that friend anymore.
Because Fox Entertainment has been posessed by Cheese Smokie Monsters Bones returns in April so B&B have to wait.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 8, 2010 7:53 AM CST up reply actions
How can you say that Al?
You dont personally know the man. I’m not here to say that he is anything but annoying, but he shows extreme compassion for the game and is generally a friendly guy. His life revolves around the cubs, litteraly. For you to say he “is all about himself” is a ridiculous given that fact that you dont personally know him. You are constantly negative about this guy, and show no compassion for him. Your attitude really brings the life of this community down. If he really does “assault women” as you have claimed, then he needs to get that fixed ASAP. But It is no reason for you to bog down this post with your constant negative feedback about a man that is obviously in need.
"The more i practice, the luckier i seem to get" -Yogi Berra
I agree with this
I’ve run into Ronnie enough times to know he’s correct. (yes, I’m being a smartass to show the danger of stating personal opinions as fact.)
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 7, 2010 3:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"In need"?
Sorry, that doesn’t wash with me. I don’t care about “personally knowing him” — because no one here “personally knows him”.
All I know is what I see at the ballpark and what I’ve heard about him from others who have encountered him.
He shows compassion for himself and is friendly only up to the point where it personally benefits him.
Enough, already.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Al, its so funny
Silva must be bad based on his historical ways, but we dont know Woo Woo personally from many years of dealing with him to make a judgement?
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Yes...
but we’re all hoping that Silva turns out to be good for us. Can we make up some silly little acronym for him as well and automatically assume everything he does is based upon the “stories” that we’ve heard out of Seattle? Please oh please!
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
my argument was not about Woo Woo
but more towards those who are writing off SIlva before he hangs himself
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The other side of the coin....
…. is that Vickers made a conscious decision yers ago to sponge off the rest of the world, and the gimmick he uses is to be the perpetual Cub fan, right down to that ratty uniform he weasrs. His passion for the Cubs is no more genuine mine is for, say, cancer. He is indeed alla bout himself, and your wife, girlfriend, sister and mother. What he “needs” is be arrested and put away.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
by BeerCub on Mar 7, 2010 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm King of the Typos
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
once again
These are things that I have not personally witnessed so I can’t really say one way or the other. I will disagree that some say he is not aware of the score when he is there and is all for him. IT just makes no sense for him to go to every game and yet not have any idea what the score is. Next time one of us sees him, we need to ask him what the score is and post his answer here. As for him doing it for personal gain, he is not on the Cubs Payroll. If he is getting anything it would be the same thing random people would provide other homeless types. ie:Food, beer, cubs tickets. None of us know his personal life, so as far as I am concerned noone has the right to judge him anyway. I will still agree that if he is harassing women, this needs to stop immediately.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Here's what I don't get
None of us know his personal life, so as far as I am concerned noone has the right to judge him anyway
Many of us know all about his personal life. I don’t know why some people insist none of us could or do. It’s been in numerous newspaper articles over the years, websites, and as for myself, I’ve heard him telll, well, several different stories because he can’t remember which lie he told last. I’ll judge him all I want.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Quote fail
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
wasnt there a DVD as well released about him?
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websites
Show them to me. I have been googling woo woo and harassment and women with other interchangeavle key words and found not one regarding such an incidence. I am anxious for you to produce such articles to defend your point. Otherwise, you are going off of rumors.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Rumors? What the hell?
“Rumors” I’ve personally witnessed for over a dozen years now? What I’m relating are things of which I have firsthand knowledge. That you refuse to believe the guy’s not a perverted grifter is your problem, not mine.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
An eyewitness account is
not good enough for you? Several on here have given you that.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
It's not enough until
someone describes in detail exactly what he did. I keep hearing inappropriate touching. That’s pretty subjective and can be a difference of opinion. I’d be willing to bet that he’s been on the receiving end of some of these inappropropriate touches by some of the females that pose with him in order to post on their MySpace or Facebook pages.
Heck, I’m not even a pseduo-celebrity and that stuff happens to me at bars.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
I don't need nor want
to hear the exact details. If these people say it happened that’s enough for me. I have been on here long enough to know that the ones who are posting what they have seen are believable. They also know what is appropriate and what is not. Inappropriate touching is never acceptable no matter who is doing it.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
I had a beer with Ronnie Woo Woo before my wedding
At High Tops (now Harry Carey’s) after the last game I attended as a single man.
I even own his CD. I don’t think I have gotten past the third song.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
CD
OMG, he has a cd? That is overboard.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry,
but who is Ronny Woo Woo?(honest question)
by braziliancubsfan on Mar 6, 2010 8:44 PM CST reply actions
There is nothing funny
nor charming about this man. His behavior in the plane clip is beyond awful.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
really. If I had been on that plane I would have written a letter to the airline.
you can’t get much by that #$%@ ballhawk -- LT
?
I’m all for constructive criticism, but seriously beyond awful! Don’t you think you are exaggerating a bit much? You have a handicapped person who wont be quiet. Are you a doctor? How do you know he does not have tourette"s syndrome. I’m sorry, but I only went ahead and watched the clip based on your description. I expected him hanging on the flight attendant, exposing himself, using profanity? I saw none of this . I saw an annoying man going woowoowoowoowoow. Hardly beyond awful.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
We don't know that he's handicapped. We have one poster's assertion that he is.
And if you were in that airplane, would you be happy?
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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 7, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
no
no i would be very annoyed. I agree. but the exxageration of beyond awful is what I do not agree with. On wikipedia it does not mention any handicaps other than being severly abused physically by his mother to the point of being taken away to live with his Grandmother. After her death he bacame homeless and like other homeless people leached off of people and took more advantage of it the more he went.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
He's not "handicapped"
Or disabled, or special needs or anything else. He’s a grifter.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
He knew damn well
what he was doing on that plane. He does it all the time and it is beyond awful. He’s a grown man and should act like one.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
Plane clip?
Someone please let me know what happened.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 7, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Just watched it.
If that had happened to me, I would never have flown with Southwest Airlines again.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 7, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Do watch it Katie.
Then watch the airplane clip. How anyone finds that charming is beyond me.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
I hate flying and get a bit claustrophobic up there as it is.
I would have freaked out and wrung his neck.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
You know...
… if anyone else had stood up and done that on an airplane, they probably would have been arrested when the plane landed for interfering with flight crew operations.
How this person gets a pass on this stupid behavior is beyond me.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
stand up
I didnt watch it long enough to see that, I will check again.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
That sounds like some language I've never heard before.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 7, 2010 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's beyond abnoxious!
On top of that, he’s a jerk, he smells terribly, and he’s in dire need of about a month in a dentist’s chair — Whenever I hear his name, those teeth are the first thing that come to mind.
I’m curious, is he homeless?
Your SN is your choice, but you don’t want folks thinking you’re him!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
Have you ever met him?
He doesn’t smell and he’s had new teeth for almost 10 years now I believe.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 6, 2010 10:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Met him as in talking to him? No
I got close enough to smell him, and yes, he stunk! I don’t think it was 10 years ago when I noticed his teeth, but I absolutely remember them!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
Try Again...
Here is a link to his site with copies of articles from News papers. Dated in May of 2001 after he received his new teeth… http://www.ronniewoowoo.com/suntimes.htm
As far as your sense of smell, I can’t argue with it because it is your opinion. However, I’ve never heard this about him even though one would think that a guy that was homeless would smell. However, I’ve been very close to the guy and so have lot of others and I didn’t notice it.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
I'm not disputing the condition of his teeth!
Glad to hear he got them fixed!
I’ve seen him around many times. I remember his teeth, on one occasion, were in BAD shape. Evidently, as you pointed out, it was prior to 2001.
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
I've met him.....
…. and have had to suffer through him for 14 years now. I couldn’t disagree more with your assessment. I lost count of the bars he’s been tossed out of in Wrigleyville and Mesa. I know for a fact he’s banned from Bernie’s. He’s a pervert, he most definitely IS a beggar, and every time he gets near we all feel like we have to wash. If you make eye contact with him, especially if you’re new to him, he zeroes in on you and tries to get free food or drink. If he decides he’s not getting anything from you, he moves on. In 14 years, I have yet to see him pay for a damn thing. Not one damn thing.
He’s the worst possible “mascot” the Cubs could have, and the last thing he should be is any sort of a fan icon. It absolutely floors me people want his autograph. If I don’t see him in Mesa next week it will be the best Spring I’ve ever spent there.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
by BeerCub on Mar 7, 2010 12:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You gotta look at it from the casual fans view.
Not everyone is hardcore like you or I. Unfortunately Ronnie is what some people say the Wrigley experience. For example he was at the Harry toast the other day.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
That's really unfortunate, because...
… there’s a lot more to “the Wrigley experience” than some guy who yells in your ear.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Unfortunate it may be.
But there’s a reason why he’s hung around for so long.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Strangely,
I suspect that I know what he thinks that reason is, and I’m waiting here with popcorn to see if he responds.
by Damen Jackson on Mar 7, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
lol
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Drat.
Still waiting. Have you run out of popcorn yet?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah...
I’ve moved on, and cubwynn was probably wise to do the same.
by Damen Jackson on Mar 8, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions
What's your deal?
Seems like you’ve always got some snarky response to anything I say. Did I do something to piss you off?
Move on? Seriously? What a silly comment to say. You do know this is a blog right? Let’s not get to self righteous now.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
The reason he's hung around so long is that people pay attention to him.
Buy him the occassional beer, ask for their picture taken with him, etc… If he was simply ignored, he’d go away.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Wow it got awfully quiet over here.
Guess I didn’t give you guys the answer you thought I was going to?!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
:: Crickets ::
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 7, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
If he was at the toast......
….. then unless he had cash with him they should have tossed him out. And not cash someone just gave him. Cash he earned from a job, not cadged from someone else, not stolen from a purse or wallet (he’s not above that), cash he made honestly. He can’t remember the last time he made cash in that way, unless it was by washing a car window at a stoplight.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Oh come now!
You’re Going to drop a bomb like that…give us proof he has stolen someone’s wallet or out of a purse.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 7, 2010 1:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I've seen it
There’s a reason many places don’t want him. At Sluggo’s in particular over the years, tips left behind, cash left for a tab have been fair game for him.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
I tend to find your claim plausible
Just a thought . . . try to take a pic or video if you see it next time.
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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 7, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
If I can I will.....
If you’ve ever been to Harry and Steve’s/Sluggo’s/Diamond’s, you know that the place has outdoor patios all around it with just a low wall for a boundary/barrier. The wall is easily gotten over just by sitting on it and swinging your legs over. People often leave their money and tip on the tables with the check and then just exit by going over the wall. Vickers will go out there when a patio is empty and look for money. The servers in years past though are usually pretty quick to get the payment, because if they don’t, it could be their responsibility for the bill, depending on how Sluggo’s owner Doug Seipel was feeling that day/night. Plus, the servers were extra cautious if Vickers was in the place. Whenever he got “lucky” and found cash, Vickers would disappear with his contraband and he would be gone, not leaving out the regular doors.
I have no idea if Jamie Strain, the new owner who rernamed it Diamond’s, is on to Vickers. This will be Strain’s second Spring as owner, so I would imagine he is by now.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Vickers?
do you mean Wickers? Ronnie Woo Woo Wickers.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 8, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's Wickers
For some reason I had a brain fart on his name.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Vickers
is his Translyvanian cousin.
VOO-VOO! VOO-VOO!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 8, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But I do know what you're saying....
…. however, word needs to get out and stay out that this creep should be persona non grata. Then maybe someone’s daughter hasn’t had her privates groped by this a-hole.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Agreed.
Don’t take what I said as defending him. He’s a mentally ill creep. “Hot dog man” is the same way. My girlfriend has been groped by him twice.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Believe me.
The next time I see either of these men touch a woman when it was not called for, I am going to contact the local police.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No, I understand
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Just for the record...
… are we talking about Que Paso, the Full Shilling hot dog guy? Because my girlfriend can personally attest to his creeper groping habits.
My favorite Wrigley staple? Claude, the beer man that looks exactly like Scottie Pippen. I couldn’t find him rocking Cubs gear (and he’s told me he’s more a Sox fan, but cheers for and works at both parks), but he’s a great beer guy and a really nice vendor. Always willing to take photos, from what i’ve seen.
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I didn't know his name was Que Paso..
…but yes he is the Full Shilling hot dog guy.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
wow - that surprises me.
Not saying the girlfriends are lying but it just surprises me. I see the hot dog guy out on Waveland all the time and have talked to him quite a bit. Yes, he gets lots of photo ops with fans walking by (some drunk, some not) but I don’t recall ever seeing a groping incident, certainly not an unwelcome one.
What I have seen on more than one occasion is a bunch of overserved girls come stumbling by, squeal because they think he’s the cutest thing in the world, rush to have their picture taken with him, and then proceed to arrange themselves in most suggestive positions with him because… well… because he’s a “hotdog” guy.
Sometimes it’s funny, sometimes it borders on obscene and/or disgusting. So if anything, I’d say he’s been groped a few times. Now I’m guessing he’s not complaining about the attention and probably not above giving a healthy hug or squeeze back. But I’ve never seen a situation where it was unwelcome and/or involved a “Ewwww” or “Stop it you creep”.
I’ll try to pay more attention this year – except when Theriot’s up… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Mar 8, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I witnessed the 2nd time with my own two eyes.
And I think on this particular day hot dog man was the one that had been overserved, but I could be wrong.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I felt the same way. Really didn't believe her.
Even hypothesized that i doubted the Shilling was sending the same dude out in a Hot Dog costume season after season. My girlfriend (and a couple of her friends) protested so forcefully that i have little reason to doubt them.
I’ll have to ask their impressions of Woo Woo.
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And if anybody wants to know how I REALLY feel...
… find me at Diamond’s next weekend after a few Old Styles, whether or not the pervert is there. And if I’m drinking with Ray Meyers, Jr.( whose Dad owned Ray’s Bleachers that turned into Murphy’s), a distinct possibility, I’m not responsible for what Ray might do or say, because I’m nothing compared to his feelings on the issue.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
We can compare notes if you are at Diamonds the FOLLOWING weekend.
Trust me much worse to be around if you are a woman.
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Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 7, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
Sadly, no
Spring normally has been a 10 day extravaganza for us, but this year and last are five days. We get there this Saturday the 13th and leave Thursday the 18th.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
If you'll be at the game on the 16th...
… would like to meet up with you. Email me.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
We'll be there and I will
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
I can vouch for this
I met Ray last year in Diamonds (Nice guy), and we went on a tirade about HWSNBN. I was on the same page since I have personally seen woo woo’s self promoting antics both at Wrigley and ST in the past. The servers at Diamonds cant stand Wickers, and wish that Cubs fans would avoid him like the plague he is.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
If he is not welcome at Diamonds...
… and is stealing from the employees there, the place has the right to call the Mesa police and have him arrested.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
The only problem
I can see with why that has not happened, is that it could be hard to prove – plus most drinking establishments would prefer to not call the fuzz over a handful of dollar bills. It also does not help that if the police were called, there would be many fans who would create a commotion for the cops arresting “the closest thing the Cubs have to a mascot” (sad but a true sentiment for some fans). As long as fans crowd around the guy to get autographs, pictures, groping…etc, its going to be tough to squelch him.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
Then the Cubs need to take action...
… disassociating the organization from this individual, letting people know his actions are NOT endorsed by the club.
One of the dumbest things done for him was allowing him to sing the 7th inning stretch in 2001. The only good thing that day was that there was a two-hour rain delay, which meant most people had left the park by then.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Too many media endorsements
HWSNBN was on at least 2 Chicago local newscast last night from the ST game. HWSNBN got as much air-time ad Derreck Lee.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 10, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
That is shameful.
I find him to be an embarrassing representative of Cub fans.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Mar 10, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Worst of all
He was walking away on the Ho Ho Kam concourse between the seating levels. And his “uniform” is not brand new and he looks pretty grungy.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 10, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Very true
But is he even on the radar?
For example, here in Albuquerque, our University of New Mexico Lobo basketball team have a so-called superfan called “The Snake” he is at everygame – wears Lobo basketball uniforms and generally just gets into the game. No hurt no foul right? However, he is a low-life – been arrested numerous times for drugs, and most recently soliciting a prostitute. Now, while his actions may have occurred outside of his psuedo affiliation with the University – he is still a favorite among many fans, and the University has not made any moves to curtail his apparent affliliation. Like I say its like he is under the radar.
Now, turn back to our hollering pest, does his annoyance to us as fans rise to level of being a concern to management? Particularly when there are many fans that would defend him – and even dare suggest that he is a big part of the Wrigley Experience? Not arguing in his favor just trying to figure if there is anything that actually would be done by the Cubs.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
IF he goes to Dawson’s HOF induction and lets out one woo I may do something drastic.
After he drowned out the speeches at the dedication of the Banks statue I hoped someone with the Cubs would do something.
Because Fox Entertainment has been posessed by Cheese Smokie Monsters Bones returns in April so B&B have to wait.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 8, 2010 5:36 AM CST up reply actions
Twice
I met him twice. Once he took a picture with my kid the other I just said Ronnie Woo Woo and he acknowkedged. Neither time did he ask me for anything.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
I gave you shit about your screename.
But don’t change it. I was (mostly) kidding.
As for Ronnie WooWoo, I see him from a different view than most here. Having grown up in Iowa, I use to only make it to Wrigley a hand full of time each year. I’d see RonnieWooWoo and think he’s funny. It was sort of the Wrigley experience to get your picture taken with him. Now I live in Chicago and realize how annoying he is. He makes his living being annoying. Not saying he’s not mentally ill, but it is what it is.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Mar 6, 2010 11:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
very true
Yes Cubs wynn, very annoying indeed.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't care less about the guy
or your screen name for that matter. He’s sauntered by in the bleachers a number of times while I’ve been there, but he doesn’t bother me. Most times, he’s taking pictures with people, which was weird, in that he had a Cubs photographer with him for that…
Anyway, the only time I can think of the WOOWOO stuff was the first game I went to with my now wife. She has little patience for things that annoy her (and there’s A LOT that annoys her) and he annoyed her so much that she said to me after the game “I’ll go with you again so long as some a-hole isn’t screaming in my ear.”
It is amusing to hear people in the bleachers talk about him. I’ve heard everything from “He’s a homeless guy and the Cubs org felt bad for him” to “the homeless guy deal is a ruse and he’s an incredibly rich person and season ticket holder and goes to all the games.” Ronnie’s teeth pretty much shut down the latter of those two.
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by Craig in South Bend on Mar 7, 2010 8:49 AM CST reply actions
I find the old people working as ushers
a lot more annoying than woo woo. not letting people near the field between the dugouts before a game is a load of crap. i have left the ballpark my last couple of trips to chicago pissed off. there are a lot of annoying people at wrigley that ronnie pales in comparison to.
Agreed.
While security for idiot behavior should be tight, these ushers should allow kids to seek autographs, etc. There’s absolutely no harm in that — and the ushers have in general not been nice about it. The Cubs are aware of this issue. Hopefully, they’ll fix it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm going to take it...
that this has been coming down from the supervisors, so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, and I will say that the majority of ushers at the park have been gracious, helpful, and accommodating.
I will share one story that I think sums up this problem. I had occasion to sit in the first row for a game last season, directly behind the Cubs dugout, probably about seven seats in. I had my camera, and Randy Wells was at the edge of the dugout, so I walked over to the last seat in the row – which was directly behind him – to get a portrait. I was immediately assaulted by an usher, who told me that I had to stay in my seat, more than an hour before game time. This was not a misunderstanding, as she saw me come in, and knew that was actually my row.
When you’re accosting the premium ticket holders for standing up and moving around in their own row during BP, maybe you don’t have a real good handle on crowd control.
by Damen Jackson on Mar 7, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
I think the problem is this.
These are generally retired people you’re talking about, who take these jobs for little more than minimum wage. They get told to do certain things and they don’t get a chance to use common sense. Instead, they appear to feel that since they have a uniform on, they are empowered to be like a prison guard.
Really, the Cubs have to retrain all these people. I go to other ballparks and get treated nicely by the staff and have wondered, “What’s the scam here?” — then I realize that’s the way it SHOULD be.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
maybe security is scared Torri Hunter will come to defend WOO WOO
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An elderly woman usher
yelled at me for simply looking at the field. I was way off to the side and in no way blocking anyone-the area was relatively empty. I just wanted to take it all in. She was really crabby and mean about it. It was a huge turn off.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
This is something the Cubs know about...
… and MUST do something about. These people are not properly trained in customer relations. Perhaps the new “hospitality officer” can help.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
At the same time
for people who are actual offenders, it would be nice of security to not give some people about a mile of rope to hang themselves with. Yelling at a fan for doing nothing, essentially, and not really doing anything about incredibly offensive people are two things that need to change.
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by Craig in South Bend on Mar 7, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Last fall i sat two rows behind homeplate vs the brewers
it was a carlos zambrano start and we are in the ballpark as soon as the doors open. i purchased these two tickets from the cubs for $360. even though i am sitting in that section, every time i left my seat and tried to take some pictures in the aisles, around the backstop, dugouts, etc., i would have two or three senior citizen ushers rush over to me and escort me back to my seat. this is two hours before the game!
the other brewers night game that week, i was sitting in the second row in the dugout box seats on the visitors side. after the game was over and the ballpark basically cleared out, my g.f. was taking pictures of me with the scoreboard in the background and i was standing in the front row with my back to wall. the old lady usher told me to get off the top of the wall. i wasnt on it, my butt might have been resting against it.
she proceded to walk over and grab my arm and tell me sir, you have to go. i regretted it later but that was the first time i ever told an old person to f**k off. we left right before security came. it was a terrible way to end my annual trip to chicago last year and i am not sure if i will come back this year or not. maybe i’ll catch them on the road instead
Had a similar experience
Was told we were being too loud in the box seat bleachers. No profanities at all. Just cheering too loud. It was the game after the Jacque Jones incident so they weren’t cutting any slack. They just asked us to move to the left field bleachers. Apparently we were okay for the real fans but not for the snobs in the box seats.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 7, 2010 1:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
Don’t work in a place serving the public and certainly not where beer is served if you have no patience for people.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 7, 2010 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Goodness.
The next time that happens, you should report it. That simply should not occur, ever.
That has never even happened to me at an opposing team’s ballpark.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 7, 2010 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, Al! Here's a question for you:
I already know the answer, but a few are claiming that he’s really a hardcore fan . . . tell us, Al . . . how does Mr. Wickers respond when someone near him “borrows” his bit?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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He gets pissed off
Because they’re impinging on his “thing”.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 7, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
with all due respect......
I think you should change your name so we dont have to talk about this guy anymore. I sort of think you are enjoying it just a teeny bit tho ;)
coolio
I admit I am surprised how much response the subject has generated. I am actually bored with it myself. If I decide on another name, I will let Al know about it. Either way, I am done with the converstion as the man(WOO WOO) is not worth it.
by ronniewoowoo2 on Mar 7, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
RonniesToupee
I think that is a winner
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I'm surprised too actually...probably due to the rainout
please dont stop b/c of what I said….sorry if I offended
Please note
While you certainly don’t need my approval, the name you chose here doesn’t bother me at all. You asked about the person you named yourself for, and that’s what can set off me and others.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Mr Woo Woo
I’ve shared my experience on the plane back from Ryno’s HOF induction.
I also had an experience in 1996. I was part of the group around her when Princess Diana came in. Ronnie Woo Woo even approached her and Woo Wooed her. That was even worse than the person at the hospital who asked her if she watched Jerry Springer.
Because Fox Entertainment has been posessed by Cheese Smokie Monsters Bones returns in April so B&B have to wait.
My original screen name was remarkably similiar to that of a past notorious poster.
This poster was well before my time and it was a total coincidence. Every time I made a comment people would ask me questions about my name. Rather than focusing on what I had to say, the subject would drift OT and become about this person that I believe may have been banned. Even after multiple explanations that I had nothing to do with that person I could tell people were reacting slightly negative to me just because the name evoked bad some sort of bad karma. I realized I was never going to be taken seriously as long as that was my name, so Al kindly offered to let me change it.. Seeing that there are already 200+ comments it seems to me that you may have a similiar problem with your name being controversial. Based on my experience I would suggest you may be happier with a change.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
LOL
The likelihood of that change being approved is zero.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
in my family woowoo is toddler-speak for a private part :) just sayin'
by cooliogirl47 on Mar 8, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
you mean like
your journal or something?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 8, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
ah, I see.
It’s important to keep your ATM pin number private, yes.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 8, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
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