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I opened my paper (San Jose Mercury News) this morning to read Mark DeRosa describe how he was mentally tougher than the next guy when it came to playoff situations. WTF?

The 2008 playoffs have faded a bit in my mind, but apparently not as much as they have for Mark.

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You made me lolz

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by dtpollitt on Mar 8, 2010 12:43 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

"I could fit that ball in tight spots"

hahahahaha

Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.

by section229beer on Mar 7, 2010 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

I had the same reaction this morning reading the Merc

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by lookingdeadred on Mar 7, 2010 7:42 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah....

As much as I like DeRosa, I don’t remember seeing anyone swing from the heels with such consistency when runners were on base as DeRosa. Apparently, he’s also forgotten game 3 of the 2007 NLDS, when he swung at ball 4 with the bases loaded and grounded into an easy double play.

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 7, 2010 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

Well...take away a windblown HR and call it an out

And he hit .250. Granted, it doesn’t work that way, but he hardly hit the cover off the ball.

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 7, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I just looked it up

Granted, only 3 games, but 12 AB, 2 R, a single, 2 doubles and a HR, 4 RBI, and a 1.083 OPS seems alright. Of course, that error was pretty huge.

Still, he drove in 4 of our 6 runs in that series, and scored one of the other 2. That’s noteworthy.

Meanwhile, we were stranding people on-base all over the place.

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by D98 on Mar 7, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, and I know I'm not being entirely fair with the "take the HR away" bit

Even though it was windblown.

IMO, DeRosa was a good Cub. I just find the quote silly, especially in light of some of his “tightness”.

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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 7, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

The error ...

was more than pretty huge. it was probably the most important point in the entire series. Any chance the Cubs had to come back in Game 2 (and Game 3) was lost.

by elgato on Mar 8, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Derrek Lee's error on the very next play didn't help matters, either.

Obviously, both plays allowed for Russell Martin’s dagger later in the inning.

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by D98 on Mar 8, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

right ...

but the floodgates opened on the DeRo error.

by elgato on Mar 9, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't that just the first run?

There was 1 out, 1st and 3rd. Then DeRo booted an easy double play that would have ended the inning, allowing a run to score, 1-0 LA, runners at 1st and 2nd.

Then Lee booted a ground ball (granted, a trickier double play) that ALSO would have ended the inning, bases are now loaded.

Statistically, both of those errors caused the Cubs Win expectancy to drop by 6%.

Then a Z strikeout, 2 outs, bases still loaded.

Then, of all things, a 2-out suicide squeeze that catches the Cubs completely off guard. Bases STILL loaded, another run scores. 2-0 LA.

Then the Russell Martin bomb, 5-0 LA, and the rout was on.

I know that the DeRosa boot was the worst error in the inning, but the Cubs get out relatively unscathed if Lee doesn’t make HIS error, or if the team isn’t caught napping on Furcal’s 2-out bunt.

What I’m getting at is that it’s not fair to say that the “floodgates opened” on DeRo’s error when that only made it 1-0, an error was committed on a doubleplay ball by the very next batter, and the team proceeded to totally botch bunt coverage three batters later. Even if Lee can’t turn that DP, the inning ends 1-0 if he gets just one out. The floodgates didn’t open until 4 batters later, at which point 2 equally compelling additional defensive lapses had happened.

It was generally a knuckleheaded inning, and there is lots and lots of blame to go around, (primarily shared by DeRo and Lee), but also by the team getting caught flat-footed on an unexpected 2-out bunt.

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by D98 on Mar 9, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

how the mighty fall…Can we PLEASE move on from 2008? We need to focus on hos good this years team is and the incredible depth that we have. Position battles in the middle infield, starting rotation, outfield, and bullpen portend good things. I personally feel this team will win 100+ games or go under 500…

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by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2010 9:50 PM CST reply actions  

I'm ready to move on now!

Just kidding. I don’t dwell on this stuff. Like I said, it was served up in my morning paper.

I like DeRo as much as the next guy, but I would think from his comments that he had lifted the rest of the team up on his shoulders during the playoffs, when that is not the way I remember it. Remember Will Clark and Mark Grace during the 1989 playoffs? Those performances were worth bragging about — although I admit that there was a lot of crappy pitching to blame in that case.

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by vonde6 on Mar 8, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

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by Goodie1969 on Mar 8, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

HE IS A SUPERHERO! JUST LIKE ADAM LIND!!!!!1!!1!!!

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by Ryno Runner on Mar 8, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

For a guy who is mentally tough in the playoffs, he's something like 0 for his last 10 games.

I mean, I know it’s a team sport. And I know he’s hit really, really well in the playoffs. And hey, maybe he’s seen his teammates tighten up and choke first-hand these last 4 trips to the playoffs.

But it seems a bit odd to do any bragging about your playoff skills when you are riding a 10-game losing streak.

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by D98 on Mar 9, 2010 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

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