Spring Training.....bring the Cubs and others to Austin (a requested post)
by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 9, 2010 9:07 PM CST
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This topic makes no sense I am sure to many, but who cares. Let the games begin
Putting on my best Bud Selig thinking hat, to come up with a sensible reason, here is the best I can do
There should be three divisions of Spring Training as follows
This would be a big boost to MLB and draw new fans annually, and allow for people to travel to different areas than normal, meaning NEW BARS TO BE THROWN OUT OF, as well as new sites to view as a fan on vacation to the three areas.
Each year you rotate the teams from one state to another.
Year One
FLORIDA
Marlins, Braves, Nationals, Mets, Phillies, Yankees, Red Sox, Rays, Orioles, Blue Jays
TEXAS
Cubs, Brewers, Reds, Pirates, Astros, Cardinals, White Sox, Royals, Tigers, Twins, Indians
ARIZONA
A’s, Rangers, Angels, Mariners, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Giants, Padres, Rockies
Year Two
TEXAS
Marlins, Braves, Nats, Mets, Phillies, Yankees, Red Sox, Rays, Orioles, Blue Jays
ARIZONA
Cubs, Brewers, Reds, Pirates, Astros, Cardinals, White Sox, Royals, Tigers, Twins, Indians
FLORIDA
A’s, Rangers, Angels, Mariners, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Giants, Padres, Rockies
Year One
ARIZONA
Marlins, Braves, Nats, Mets, Phillies, Yankees, Red Sox, Rays, Orioles, Blue Jays
FLORIDA
Cubs, Brewers, Reds, Pirates, Astros, Cardinals, White Sox, Royals, Tigers, Twins, Indians
TEXAS
A’s, Rangers, Angels, Mariners, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Giants, Padres, Rockies
It makes sense for the Texas location to be Austin, because there is no room here for new stadiums, but the Dallas Cowboys once used St Edwards University for their training site, and made news for destroying the dorms there some years ago. If its good enough for them, why not 1/3 of MLB annually.
There is a good public transportation as well here in Austin, including a light rail system that was set to be working about 18 months ago, but still has not been launched (thankfully the tax dollars and the bus fares were raised to pay for it twice). Having the light rail (yes one rail, the train will go from one end of the line to the other on one rail only, there will not be two trains passing each other, that is too futuristic for Austin) can only help the players, and coaches get around town slowly, allowing them not to be hurt trying to rush back and forth. Plus my friend drives a Cab and is a Cubs fan, so this would allow him to make less money driving, since he would be at the games with me, while I am ditching work to get fired.
There are stadiums in Austin, like Austin Community College, St Edwards University, University of Texas (each has a softball field too for bunting drills!). Of course an hour outside Austin there is Texas State University as well as Round Rock Express, but those stadiums would be off limits, they are not close enough, and San Antonio has some about 90 Minutes away, but that is a tourist town, we dont want to use it for Spring Training, since their tourists would just get in the way of MLBs..
Now this all would happen with the Arizona teams being charged a $3 fee per $1 the ticket costs (if the ticket face value is $10, there is a $20 fee, because that bringing the total ticket price to $12) which for Jessica, we will be sure to break out the tax as well as the cost per beer cup that will be crushed in the seats.
The best part of this, is it fixes the MLB blackout problem, since all teams would now have all the states in the Union (not including the greater Seattleland area) as their home market, and allowing them not to be blacked out.
To finish the fix, the ASG would be moved to Hawaii and be played the weekend before the World Series.
This is why MLB needs to bring Spring Training to Austin, Texas.
Yours Truly
"Bud Jr"
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ballhawk
i hope it lived up to your expectations
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I gotta tell you, Cubbie-Tim, it was touch and go there for awhile...
Some good parts, some bud parts, and a few meh parts. Overall, I was on the fence whether to give it a thumbs up or down. Then I got to the poll…
Sheer genius, C-T. Sheer genius.
That poll should go into the BCB HoF right now – screw the 5 year waiting period after the poster retires.
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i told ya in the header
i had to put on my bud selig thinking hat
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FWIW
Can i get a statue outside BCB as well?
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Outstanding..
All I can say. Bravo
This is the year...
by Chanman25 on Mar 9, 2010 9:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
thanks
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 5:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Outstanding..
All I can say. Bravo
This is the year...
by Chanman25 on Mar 9, 2010 9:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
all you can say
twice.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 10, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
thanks again
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 5:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
LOL....well written, I agree with Chanman...Bravo
actually, I like the rotating teams going to the three different cities which would mean you can vacation in different places to see your favorite team playST games, And I think Austin would be a cool location to add to the mix, we could get together with ya for a game and a beer. Love it
" It’s spring fever - you don’t know what it is you want, but it fairly makes your heart ache, you want it so. "--Mark Twain
Love this idea
Could it be because I live in Ft Lauderdale & my sister’s in Austin, so that would give me 2 yrs out of 3 to go to ST without hotel bill?
Dear Bud Jr.
I have no clue where you thought of this one, but there are some problems:
It makes sense for the Texas location to be Austin, because there is no room here for new stadiums, but the Dallas Cowboys once used St Edwards University for their training site, and made news for destroying the dowms there some years ago. If its good enough for them, why not 1/3 of MLB annually.
Okay. The Cowboys training camp is in the summer, that works. MLB camp is in the spring- students still have classes at that time and still live in those dorms.
Next…
Now this all would happen with the Arizona teams being charged a $3 fee per $1 the ticket costs (if the ticket face value is $10, there is a $20 fee, because that bringing the total ticket price to $12) which for Jessica, we will be sure to break out the tax as well as the cost per beer cup that will be crushed in the seats.
Wouldn’t that be a $30 fee?
And finally…
To finish the fix, the ASG would be moved to Hawaii and be played the weekend before the World Series.
Do you want to be like the Pro Bowl? I’m not against the Hawaii thing. But the weekend before the WS? No one will show up.
Sincerley,
Your average Bud Selig hater
you took this WAY too serious
I guess you missed the sarcasm.
I know that the total cost would have actually been $40 for the tic as I detailed it, i also made two year one and no year three in a three year rotation.
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lol
" It’s spring fever - you don’t know what it is you want, but it fairly makes your heart ache, you want it so. "--Mark Twain
by cooliogirl47 on Mar 10, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
Don't forget Southwestern
The Vikings almost had traing camp moved there, it’s already in the 80’s here, and I live close by. Great idea I vote AYE.
Hehe...good stuff, I actually would love this idea though since I know live in Austin
by the way no way Round Rock is an hour away, more like 15 minutes. Could be 30-35 on I35 at rush hour I suppose. unless that was part of the sarcasm.
And the light rail debacle here in Austin needs no sarcasm added.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
ding ding ding
you hit on them both.
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FWIW
had to check, from my apartment Googles Map says 32 minutes (I am South Austin off Oltorff)
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makes sense, I'm on the north side off Braker
will have to meet up some time this summer to catch a game.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
sounds like a plan
Ryno and the iCubs?
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As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 9, 2010 10:53 PM CST reply actions
lol this is a good idea on paper
kinda like communism
To eliminate exclusion, we cut out the differences to feel like we belong.
Footnote:
Tim lives in Texas.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Mar 9, 2010 11:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions
shhhh dont tell anyone
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 12:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
too late
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Mar 10, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
get a second bag for it
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
get a second bag for it
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
get a second bag for it
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 11, 2010 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
AUSTIN!!!!
I live in austin and am a huge cubs fan. that would be the coolest thing. doubt it would happen tho.
SKOL VIKINGS 2010!!
meet u when iowa visits?
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 12:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I used to be stationed up the road
go 1st Cav!
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
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well how bad can it be having
spring training AND SXSW at the same time
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 12:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I still want to see the Cubs in Naples (Italy) for Spring Training!
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I'm really torn on the poll question...
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i tried to keep it fair
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 12:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can't believe Jessica hasn't made a comment about the ticket taxes yet.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Denied...
Average Temperature in Austin during February – 48 Degrees
Plus, Texans don’t appreciate baseball. Until they can start showing up to Ranger and Astro games (other than Opening Day) they don’t deserve it.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
well two things
1. good thing spring training is in march and the weather is 60´s
2. colder spring training might help prepare for cold ass Chicago April.
plus i am here
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 5:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
would give me a reason to care about SXSW
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 5:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree about the SXSW
(why are we talking like this, and what is the SXSW?)
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
music and film fest here
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how about we just cover the entire US in a dome? Then it can be one temperature the country over, and we can keep out those annoying Canuks…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
The same temperature all over?!?!?
Are you some sort of commie weatherman?!?!?
Sincerely,
Lou Dobbs
P.S. I, Lou Dobbs, like the part about keeping out the foreigners, though.
"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z
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by lookingdeadred on Mar 10, 2010 11:10 AM CST reply actions
I'd like them to have spring training in Woodstock, IL
Because that is where I live. I’ve got a large yard they can play catch in if they’d like.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
and will you make them cookies and lemonade? ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
that goes without saying
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Mar 10, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Ain't Gonna Happen, But...
I don’t think it would be an absolutely crazy idea to have spring training in either central Texas around San Antonio and Austin or east Texas around Houston and Galveston. Dallas/Ft. Worth is too far north. The weather as far north as Austin is dodgy enough in March. As it stands right now, I believe Anchorage has as much chance of getting spring training as Austin does.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
You do realize this was all done as a joke, right?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Sort Of Figured That
I’d like to see spring training in North Dakota. It would be a a big boost to tourism there. All that would need to happen would be for Bismarck, Fargo, Grand Forks, and Minot to each build three domed spring training stadiums a piece. With today’s economy and North Dakota’s tax base, that shouldn’t be much of a problem at all.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
The only thing I would add
would be to have two teams a day travel to portland so they can get practice playing in the rain and cold weather so they can compete with the northern teams early in the year. Why prepare to play in warm weather only to have to go back north? The two teams would rotate each day so we could have all 30 teams go through by the end of spring training. This would also allow teams to practice travelling. It can’t be easy to relax all winter only to have to travel a lot during the summer. Plus, Portland has more breweries than any other city in the world, which gives much more beer options at games.
You've convinced me
with those beer options. I think I’m going to have to make a trip there to check that out.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
i agree with this
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2010 5:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
beer options
I just want to say it again and again
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
i do like one local brew in Texas
St Arnolds. A very nice taste, and I love their brewery tour. I highly recommend it to everyone (even non drinkers) when in Houston on a Saturday. Regulars to the tour actually will lay out their Monopoly boards and pick up from last week (no joke, I have seen this happen before there).
I also love the offers they have for recycling
Have you ever noticed a large stack of Saint Arnold six-pack and twelve-pack carriers, folded up, gathering dust in the corner of your kitchen? Have you wondered what to do with them? If you have imaginative ideas (such as stapling them to a t-shirt and seeing if others will follow creating a new fashion trend), let us know. But we have a great idea: RECYCLE THEM.
Bring us your twelve-pack and six-pack carriers and we will exchange them for cool Saint Arnold stuff. Bring us 10 and get a pint glass. Bring us 120 and get a tie-dye. If you are really crass, we’ll even give you money (10 cents each), but don’t you think that cool stuff is more fun?
The caveat: the carriers must be in good shape. If you were using it to reprimand your dog after discovering that he wasn’t yet completely housetrained, or using it to remove his, uh, “mistake”, please don’t return it.
What’s in it for us? The carriers are expensive and it makes more sense for us to reuse them once than to put them directly into the landfill. We buy several hundred thousand of them a year, so saving some would be nice. Below is a partial summary of our exchange program:
10 carriers: Pint glass
10 carriers: Tour admission
25 carriers: Pilsner glass
50 carriers: T-shirt (one sided, not the seasonal)
100 carriers: Hat
100 carriers: Baseball t-shirt
100 carriers: Ladies t-shirt
100 carriers: Tin sign
120 carriers: Tie-Dye T-shirt
160 carriers: Saint Arnold tap handle
200 carriers: Work shirt
320 carriers: Guayabera
675 carriers: Bike jersey
200,000 carriers: Tie-dyed 1957 Bentley
and here is the Bentley
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wow that is really a cool recycling idea...wish we had something like that here
" It’s spring fever - you don’t know what it is you want, but it fairly makes your heart ache, you want it so. "--Mark Twain
by cooliogirl47 on Mar 10, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
whos up for
a bcb beer fest week so we could get that bently
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
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i like how you think
and I like their drink
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I'd be good for ummm....about 10 carriers!? I'm in!
" It’s spring fever - you don’t know what it is you want, but it fairly makes your heart ache, you want it so. "--Mark Twain
by cooliogirl47 on Mar 14, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Know About Breweries in Portland
When I think of breweries, I think of St. Louis and Milwaukee. Portland has evidently slipped under the brewery radar for a lot of us.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
Plus the the breweries in Portland
produce beers that actually have flavor unlike the famous breweries in St Louis and Milwaukee.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 10, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't totally count Milwaukee out as far as flavor.
The Milwaukee Ale House is pretty darn good.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
one word for you, my friend
Leinenkugel’s
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
or???
Even the great Google oracle does not understand the import of your comment. I am flummoxed. Is this where I say “I am the Key Master”?
I like Leinenkugel’s Red when I am in the midwest. My Googling tells me that Leinenkugel is now part of the CoorsMillers (or is it MillersCoors) behemoth, but it seems to have some independence.
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
sorry - I guess there's such a thing as being too cute..
BM or AM ==> Before Miller or After Miller
I’m not that much of a beer connoisseur, but I spent some time working at Miller many years ago and I remember my Wisconsin friends being all up in arms about big bad corporate Miller totally ruining their local independent brewski.
Once the dust settled, I got the impression that the taste had changed a bit but not significantly. However, to the hard-core Leinenkugel fan, a “bit” may be too much…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
s'ok
I was just afraid that I was not as “with it” as I thought, and I did not have high expectations there.
I also have a 17-year-old daughter to tell me that I am not cool, and now that I have the idea, I will have to use the phrase “with it” in front of her to force her to roll her eyes permanently.
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
My 17 yr old son just told me I was an old lady today.
He had the nerve to point at my gray hair (which he gave me-thank you very much). He has said I’m cool though….for an old lady.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
The proper answer, of course, is
“You’re pretty cool for a 17-year-old kid.”
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Leinie Red got dropped....
I was looking all over and finally saw a Miller rep at my grocery store who said they only put it in the variety packs now. Too bad….one of my fave beers.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I am very disappointed to hear that
I guess that I am not liking the CoorsMiller era.
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
Texas Sucks...
no offense.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
This makes perfect sense,
So fans of teams in Arizona, Texas, and Florida get to see every team in a three-year span.
Which is why, of course, it will never happen.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 12, 2010 6:07 PM CST reply actions
one spin that i think would have been nice
is moving the teams in a way that everyone plays everyone over time, such as move five from texas to florida, and five from texas to arizona, and so on.
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
That would be very difficult to manage.
But I think it’s also a great idea.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 15, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
not really that hard
move NL “clockwise” and AL “counter clockwise” so to speak in the rotation
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Personally
I think they should move the Rangers to the NL Central…or at least to the AL Central. No wonder why they don’t have many diehard fans. They play all of their road games 2 hours behind. All of their opponents are in California.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
I think you mean on the West Coast.
But your idea has some merit. However, should that happen, I think MLB may want to create two new AL West teams. Possible locations could be as follows: Portland (Oregon), Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, or if you really want to stretch the division, Anchorage or Honolulu. However, those last two would cause logistical nightmares for the rest of MLB, so I think they should only be used as a last-gasp solution. The other three cities would be good candidate cities.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Or possibly Vancouver, too.
That might also be a stretch, I’m not sure the Mariners would like a team that close to them. However, from what I saw in Vermont, very few people here were Expos fans (prior to their move to Washington), and most people here supported the Red Sox (and still do).
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Like I said,
Anchorage and Honolulu would cause logistical nightmares.
It wouldn’t just be the wintry conditions in Anchorage. There would also be the extraordinary cost of travel. It likely wouldn’t be worth it.
Hence, why I suggested Portland, Salt Lake City, and Las Vegas. If they realign the AL like that, I could see those cities possibly getting a MLB team.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 17, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
SLC is not big enough.
Neither is Vegas. They’re fairly small TV markets.
Portland — that makes some sense. So would Charlotte.
But the fact is, expansion, if any, is many years away.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Las Vegas isn't big enough? Seriously?
The US Census Bureau estimated the 2008 population of the Las Vegas area as 1,865,746 people. I imagine, as the 2010 Census happens, we will know for sure, but the Las Vegas area has more people than a lot of cities that have professional teams.
Salt Lake City, I can understand why not having a team there is potentially a good idea. Las Vegas, I could see MLB offering them a team (along with Portland, as you suggest) if the Rangers move to the AL Central and MLB adds two more teams to the AL West.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, here you go.
I meant to include this, I guess I’m just a little tired as it’s so late here.
The population figure of the Las Vegas area is there. However, the gambling in that area might work against the chances of Las Vegas getting a team (the NFL in particular is vehemently opposed to this).
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not so much the raw population..
… as the television DMA ranking.
Las Vegas is the 42nd largest TV market. That would be by far the smallest TV market in MLB. Currently the smallest is Milwaukee.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Okay, I concede the point.
You win.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
i wish to thank all of you who voted yes
i know it was a hard poll of choices, but thanks for the support
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