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Cubs Dig The Long Ball: Three Homers Beat Reds 4-3

The Cubs have scored 17 runs this year -- 12 of them as a result of home runs, including all four today in a 4-3 win over the Reds. The Cubs' eight dingers in five games is (at this writing) tied for the National League lead with the Cardinals, who also hit their eighth this afternoon.

Is this a good thing? Obviously, if you win it is. But can this team win by relying on the longball? I suppose if guys like Alfonso Soriano -- who hit his first today -- come back to their pre-2009 levels of performance, it can work. It's also nice when you get runners on base ahead of the homers, the old "pitching, defense and three-run homers" theory.

Today, the Cubs had Ryan Theriot on base in the fourth inning, their first baserunner, when a call that could have been ruled obstruction occurred. Aaron Harang threw a wild pitch; Theriot took second and looked like he might have headed toward third when the throw got past Brandon Phillips. Just then, Theriot ran into shortstop Orlando Cabrera, who appeared to plant himself right in Theriot's way. Rule 7.06 covers obstruction:

When obstruction occurs, the umpire shall call or signal "Obstruction." If a play is being made on the obstructed runner, or if the batter-runner is obstructed before he touches first base, the ball is dead and all runners shall advance, without liability to be put out, to the bases they would have reached, in the umpire’s judgment, if there had been no obstruction. The obstructed runner shall be awarded at least one base beyond the base he had last legally touched before the obstruction. Any preceding runners, forced to advance by the award of bases as the penalty for obstruction, shall advance without liability to be put out.

Now. The key in the ruling that C.B. Bucknor made is "in the umpire's judgment". I didn't think Theriot would have made third base; the ball didn't get that far away. Lou Piniella and Theriot argued, but in this case -- amazingly enough -- I think Bucknor got it right.

It didn't matter when Kosuke Fukudome homered two pitches later to put the Cubs on the board after they were trailing 3-0.

Star-divide

Meanwhile, Carlos Zambrano was getting stronger after having spotted the Reds that 3-0 lead, in part by giving up a long home run to Phillips. Z became the first Cub starter to go seven innings this year and "lowered" his ERA to 11.88. Today is the Z we know well and the Z we need if the Cubs are going to have the same starting pitching they had a year ago. Since the debacle on Opening Day, the Cubs have allowed 3, 0, 5 and 3 runs, all earned, for a staff ERA of 2.91 in those four games. Keep that up and things will be just fine.

Props to Mike Fontenot, who made a slick falling-down play that was reminiscent of the one Andres Blanco made last September in New York. Yet, Lou pulled Fontenot in the eighth to have Jeff Baker face lefty Arthur Rhodes, and Baker delivered with the game-winning home run.

Finally, the bullpen did an outstanding job today -- John Grabow retiring three of four hitters in the middle of the Reds lineup and Carlos Marmol looking like the Marmol of 2008 in striking out the side on only 13 pitches (nine strikes) and snapping off several really good sliders. Marmol posted his second save of the year, and this is the Marmol the Cubs need to lead their bullpen.

If home runs are the way to wins in 2010 -- go for it. Here's to a series win tomorrow, a split on the road trip and head home for the opener at Wrigley against the Brewers on Monday.

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I said it in the victory thread...

Lou put baker in for fontenot…

Lou, this ones on you!! ;)

by bilbosbuttons on Apr 10, 2010 3:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

LOL

Credit where credit is due.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you have a team average of 213

And you’re 2-3, and could easily be 4-1, you feel pretty good.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

What is the team BABIP?

Anyone know? Gotta be below .200 with all the HRs.

"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella

by PacificCub on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Nope.

But coming into today, team BABIP was .234, ranking 15th in the league. Since three of the five hits today were HR, it’s likely going to be lower after today’s game.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

and our BABIP allowed is just .277

coming into today’s game

I’d say early on we’ve been unfortunate on the hitting side and fortunate on the pitching side

this also matches up in my opinion with what i’ve watched. Outside of the first game I think the Cubs have played really good defense and the pitchers have benefited from it (DLee’s rob of Bruce in the 8th probably saved the game)

meanwhile i think our hitters have hit into some rough luck early on (lots of warning track fly balls)

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eek then

Looks like nothing but Ks and HRs

"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella

by PacificCub on Apr 10, 2010 4:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I love the home runs.

But it would be nice to get a nice number of doubles when we have some guys on base. Soto had a bad day again, but it was good to see Soriano get a home run.

Nice win on a beautiful day.

2010 is OUR year.

by Unique on Apr 10, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

It would be nice to get more guys on base, too.

Team OBA coming into today was .287 — 13th ranked in the NL.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

it should go up with a good day or two at the plate. Would be nice to get alot of runs for Gorz tomorrow before we head home.

2010 is OUR year.

by Unique on Apr 10, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still think we can win this series in Cincinnati.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really wish Soto would stop his statue act.

How many looking strikeouts does he have this year?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

He often did that last year too.

I hope he turns it around. He is a difference maker in the lineup.

2010 is OUR year.

by Unique on Apr 10, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think

If he doesn’t pick it up, that they would trade for a catcher?

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto still handles these pitchers very well

And is a fairly competent backstop – I don’t think he’s going anywhere. He needs to get his average up, though. A few sessions in the batting cage may help.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hill is better at handling pitchers and defensively

I think I would rather play him and get a bullpen arm than get another catcher.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hill can handle the pitchers

just as well. If Soto has another performance like last year, the Cubs have no choice but to find another option. Especially if we are in contention.

2010 is OUR year.

by Unique on Apr 10, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is very possible

but it’s all a matter of who’s avaliable and for what cost? If the rotation holds up and second is plausable, sure.

Ryan Doumit might be avaliable. His defense is pretty bad though.

2010 is OUR year.

by Unique on Apr 10, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Angels have a surplus

Mike Napoli, Jeff Mathis and Bobby Wilson are currently on their 25 man roster. They kept Wilson because he was out of options. All three are Scioscia trained catchers. Napoli has great power (20 hrs in the last two years platooning with Mathis), is the best hitter of the three, Mathis being the worst hitter. Mathis is far and away the best defensive catcher, followed by Wilson. Point being, Napoli MIGHT be available. A Scioscia schooled catcher is a pretty damned good catcher. Trouble is, Napoli would come at a price, and I don’t know what they have the Angels would want.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 10, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

And aren't the Mets carrying something like 20 catchers in the majors and AAA?

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well......

… their two major league catchers are Rod Barajas and Henry Blanco, so that really doesn’t bode well for a trade, I would think. Cubs need a hitting catcher.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 10, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would love any three of them

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 10, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

he’s cheap he’s young, and he’s better than anything we’d acquire

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto?

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 10, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Napoli's defense is poor

which is why Mathis is starting over him.

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by Josh Timmers on Apr 10, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Napoli's arm is very poor.

Otherwise, he calls a good game and can bat.

by chilango2 on Apr 10, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

we have a limited budget for resources, his career OPS+ is 104

and good hitting catchers who play adequate defense don’t grow on trees

it would be silly for a team that’s not “really” a world series contender not only giving up assets to get something else, but to block a young player’s development

that would be asinine

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tihnk you overvalue Soto

I’m not sure he’d even make the Angels’ 25 man, factoring in Soto’s last year and this Spring. I’d take any of the Angels’ three over him.

When Piniella says Soto has to start hitting to play, that means it isn’t his defense that keeps him in games and might not keep him on the roster. I can see him going to Iowa to find his swing, much like what the Angels did to Howie Kendrick last year.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 10, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bring up Robinson to back up Hill?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea

Since we’re all spitballing here, trade for somebody, whether it’s an Angel catcher or someone else, and send Soto down, since he’d still be not hitting for a trade to happen. Plus, last year, who did Hill have backing him up, Fox? So why not Robinson? He’d have to be better than Fox.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 10, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto is out of options

you send him down you have to expose him to waivers and someone would obviously claim him

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/02/out-of-options-2010.html

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

well...

all his indicators suggest last year’s line was pretty fluky

and i’m not evaluating him based off of 3 games this year

he’s averaged 2.8 WAR/year since we brought him up

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto had a very flukish 2008

He actually had a 0.0 WAR last season, as opposed to a 4.1 in 2008. I’m afraid what we’re seeing is the real Soto at the plate.

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by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

1.2 WAR

according to fangraphs

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3707&position=C#value

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes nice win

Z really came on after a shaky start, DLee made a huge play with his catch, Baker with the HR, and Marmol looked nasty.

If they can win tomorrow can have a .500 road trip which would be ok, despite the 2 8th inning meltdowns.

by jeff_pico on Apr 10, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

From Wittenmyer:

Forget that early return. Lilly’s back still bothering him. Scratched from Sunday. Pen Mon, Iowa start Wed.

by chilango2 on Apr 10, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, if Silva keeps pitching like he did yesterday

We won’t have to worry about it. Of course, we also need good starts from Gorz.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lilly could still be ready for the Mets series.

Lou has hinted that one start might be enough at Iowa for Ted. Remember, the issue here is his back, not his arm.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

except that Silva might miss his next start

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 10, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

It sounds like Silva is ok

I found this, by Carrie Muskat / MLB.com, in the Cubs’ news section of the iPhone AtBat app:

Chicago’s Carlos Silva did have some soreness in his right shoulder after Friday’s game, but he’s projected to start next Friday in the series opener against the Houston Astros.


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by eths on Apr 11, 2010 1:05 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What's the pitching matchup for tomorrow?

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Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Gorz vs Leake

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers vs Cards

Gallardo getting shelled. 4-0 Cards lead, and they’re threatening.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Pujols just hit a two-run single.

Cardinals 6, Brewers 0

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since the debacle on Opening Day, the Cubs have allowed 3, 2, 5 and 3 runs

Shouldn’t that read “3, 0, 5, and 3”?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I think so...

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds right.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct.

So the ERA is actually lower: 2.91.

I’ll fix the post.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

For some reason I thought today was another night game

And when I realized that it wasn’t the game was already over. Sigh.

by Pre on Apr 10, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

That's because Saturday road games usually are night games.

So it’s okay. If it hadn’t been for BCB, I would have thought today’s game was also a night game.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sucks :(

This is why BCB should be your homepage.

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I DID THE SAME THING

Just got home. Oh well better for my high blood pressure

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by Doggie Stalker on Apr 10, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marmol was in a rhythm today.

They had no chance on that slider. The last four appearances by pitchers named Carlos have been good. Keep it up Carloses!

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by Goodie1969 on Apr 10, 2010 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm hoping for a good performance tomorrow from someone named Tom.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not Ricketts, smart one,

Gorzelanny!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

My name's Tom

I’ll let my wife know about your request.

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by Tingham on Apr 10, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL ... not you! ;-)

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i say the entire pitching staff changes their name to carlos

"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "

by jesus christos on Apr 10, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we did that

no one could pitch on opening day…

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

ted lilly can

he can change his name/identity at will

"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "

by jesus christos on Apr 10, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

or in August

I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
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by hansman1982 on Apr 10, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marmol looks fantastic

i had legitimate concerns that their were long-term issues as a result of his usage rates the last few years, but his arm angle looks back in line

i think the closer’s role should help insulate some of his usage (although if the pen continues to struggle who knows if Lou will ask Marmol to go for more than 3 outs)

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have the numbers in front of me

But isn’t Marmol’s WHIP much worse in games where he pitches >1 inning?

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by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last year

He only did it 4 times, and gave up no runs, 5 walks, and one hit.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i haven't seen those numbers

but i’ve shown the days rest numbers before….

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=marmoca01&year=Career&t=p#dr

his K:BB Ratio consistently improves as he has more rest

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, we knew *that*!

:P

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by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Bucknor was wrong.

The germane part of the rule is not “in the umpire’s judgement,” it’s “The obstructed runner shall be awarded at least one base beyond the base he had last legally touched before the obstruction.”

I would interpret that as meaning the umpire’s judgment is only used in cases where the runner might have advanced more than one base.

by Inkin on Apr 10, 2010 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, maybe.

It says:

all runners shall advance, without liability to be put out, to the bases they would have reached, in the umpire’s judgment, if there had been no obstruction.

Bucknor could argue that Theriot wouldn’t have made third base anyway, and I think I actually agree with that; the ball didn’t get very far into CF. He’d probably have been thrown out if he had tried to advance.

So the umpire DOES have judgment — it’s conceivable he could award more than one base in certain situations.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bucknor made a gesture toward third so I thought he was sending Theriot down to third.

Or was that another phantom gesture like Ruth’s called shot?

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by waiting4cubs on Apr 10, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually made the "fist over shoulder, thumb extended" gesture

Telling Riot to get back to 2nd. Theriot’s eyes bugged out a little, as he thought he was being called out.

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

He made a couple of gestures, but I was pretty sure he pointed toward third.

I looked at the replays and am sure he made one confusing gesture, although whatever he said to Theriot wasn’t confusing.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Apr 10, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The gestures were definitely confusing.

Not surprising from Bucknor.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I perceived it

as Bucknor saying there’s no way you would’ve made it to third. Thus, the “judgement” call.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Apr 10, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the judgment call.

The gestures were somewhat confusing, though.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 11, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Way back in high school I was taught

If you find yourself in a rundown, turn and plow into anyone standing in the basepath without the ball. It’s hard to imagine that strategy working if “the umpire’s judgement” is applied. Regardless of the obstruction the umpire would shrug and call you out.

Kurt speaks for me...http://www.kurtwarner.org/

by Eisman57 on Apr 10, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

HR's are nice

But the team as a whole has to hit better. It’s early though and I’m sure the players who are meant to step up will.

I have a feeling Lou will not be as patient for batters who are not performing. I know he said he would play the hot hand in an article but this time I really believe him when he says it.

by ak123 on Apr 10, 2010 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I was also glad to see him yank Soriano for Colvin in the 9th.

That’s not something he would have done in past years.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember the series in Pittsburgh

where Soriano’s defense cost a game? A reporter asked if Lou considered putting Reed Johnson in for defensive purposes and Mt. Piniella erupted.

“OF COURSE I DID, WHAT DO YOU THINK, I’M STUPID?!?”

by EalyEagle on Apr 10, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

So now he's gone beyond thinking about it

Of course, it was a little too late to prevent Sori’s misadventure in the 2nd inning. All’s well that ends well, I guess.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

That Colvin would have gotten to that anyway. Doesn’t matter though, as the run didn’t score.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

My bad

the run DID score.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He blamed Sori's miscue on the sun.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Apr 10, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marmol looked great

That slider has a ton of movement and looks unhittible when he’s on.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Apr 10, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

"Props to Mike Fontenot, who made a slick falling-down play"

Props to him for more than just that. He had a heads-up play backing up Lee in the first that netted a 4-1 put-out, and started the 4-6-3 DP that got us out of the 6th. He had an excellent day in the field.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

+17

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Although the MI defense can be questionable,

the Cubs have appeared twice on Espn’s top ten – Theriot for a series of good plays and Fontenot last night. I really enjoyed seeing that.

"75 wins is optimistic with this staff. Optimistic." and "Cubs are looking at 4th place in 2010." BLou, March 17, 2010.

by BleedsbluinMI on Apr 11, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too!!

Today’s game was awesome, and I’m looking forward to tomorrows as well! Lots of Cubs fans at the game too!

Guy at bar: "Do you just like that hat or do you like Chicago?"
Me: "I'm in Love, Obsessed and Addicted to the Chicago Cubs!"

by KC in OK on Apr 10, 2010 6:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Have a great time, both of you!

KC, do you have any pictures from today’s game?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a couple on

my twitter, I’ll add a link when I get back home. http://twitter.com/KariGoCubsGo

Guy at bar: "Do you just like that hat or do you like Chicago?"
Me: "I'm in Love, Obsessed and Addicted to the Chicago Cubs!"

by KC in OK on Apr 10, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't the logic go .500 on the road?

Crazy to think that with as badly as the Cubs played, they could do that with a W tomorrow. I hope the bats come alive in support Gorz. The frustrating part is we could easily be 4-1.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 10, 2010 4:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You are what your record says you are

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is.....?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 10, 2010 4:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Apr 10, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is my favorite.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always wondered why the game was played until Herm Edwards told me

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I WANT WINNERS! I WANT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WIN!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

We couldn't do diddly poo out there

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

COME AFTER ME! I'M A MAN! I'M 40!!!!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

WE CAN’T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BLOCKING!

Note: NSFW.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you were 2-7, you'd be in a bad mood too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl02KRURttg

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? Nobody? Bueller?

AND PRINT IT!

Yeah, that’s NSFW.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kept looking for pictures of that,

But I couldn’t find it.

Same is true for the Jerry Burns rant I posted a link to above.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want soldiers.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 11, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Woo!

I also thought tonight was a nite game, but this is a Cubs win is a great thing to wake up to!

Go Cubs Go!

And you mean Kosuke hasn’t been DFA’d yet? :-p He rides the Divine Wind!

"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."

by LeSaboteur on Apr 10, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone else watching CC's no no?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 10, 2010 4:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Too late

We jinxed it.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I told my girlfriend that CC had a no-no going

So it’s more my fault than anything.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry,

What the hell is the matter with you, cubswynn? The first rule of the no-hitter is that we don’t speak of the no-hitter.

by Damen Jackson on Apr 10, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know the rule.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 10, 2010 5:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

One more incident like this...

And we may have to consider revoking your fan card.

by Damen Jackson on Apr 10, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the no no is against the Cubs, can we say it then?

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Apr 10, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so...

It’s so rare, you really have to always respect one.

by Damen Jackson on Apr 10, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

what if its post season...can I say it then???

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Apr 10, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehe..

I think you should just let your conscious be your guide.

by Damen Jackson on Apr 10, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok.

(I already know what I would do)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Apr 10, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

LWWYHMD

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 10, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

FYI...

… and I will post about this when the time comes, the Cubs are within about a month of breaking the record for the longest time without being no-hit.

Last time the Cubs were no-hit was September 9, 1965, Sandy Koufax’s perfect game.

I don’t have the exact game count handy, but the current record is held by the Yankees, who were no-hit in 1958 by Hoyt Wilhelm, then not again till the six-pitcher combined no-hitter by the Astros in 2003.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Com'on Al

First rule of Fight Club:

YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB

Second rule of Fight Club:

YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Apr 10, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club

http://xkcd.com/703/

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 11, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for expanding my vocabulary!

and i love xkcd

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on Apr 11, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

what if it is

game 7 of the world series and the opposing pitcher is not an ass and is 6 outs from a perfect game – do you root for the player striving for the rare or the team striving for the even more rare?

I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
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by hansman1982 on Apr 10, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The win, of course.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great headline

Here

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

ROFL! Straight out the Onion!

"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou

by Emelie on Apr 10, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

What you can say is....

… “CC Sabathia is throwing a game of interest”.

That’s what we say in the bleachers amongst ourselves. Let’s use “game of interest” as the code word for, you know.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh and the look in that chicken's eyes...

"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou

by Emelie on Apr 10, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a good thing I just ate,

Because if I didn’t, I would have just lost my appetite looking at this.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jinx, curses, omens, are all stupid.

Piss on the so called baseball gods. I don’t believe in any of it.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 10, 2010 8:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

+10

We should all have your attitude in all facets of life.

''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou

by propheteer on Apr 10, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's bad luck to post stuff like that

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 11, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha.

Anyone who believes in that BS is an idiot.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Big hit by the muffin man...

Z settled down and dominated. Good win.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Apr 10, 2010 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Oops

Big fingers. Good to see Z bounce back. To be 2-3, with Sori, Ramy, Soto, Theriot and Bryd not hitting a thing is not bad. Throw in two bullpen blowups and here we are.
 Fontenot plays at second today were great.
 Have the Cubs face Leake before? They seem to struggle against pitchers they have never seen before. Here is to changing that tomorrow.

by Grockcubs on Apr 10, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one has seen Mike Leake before.

He will be making his major league debut tomorrow.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's the sort of guy

that gives Cubs fits.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

professional regular season

he hasn’t pitched in the minors either

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct.

Other than a handful of spring training games, he has not pitched since last June.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

The scouting report says something

like this:

Swing at strikes.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 10, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Intended recipient:

Geovany Soto.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 10, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Silva hurt-sucks

That he may miss a start, wonder who would fill in? Hard to just stretch out a reliever like Shark, would they call somebody up or what?

He looked so good too, just hope it’s minor. He looks like he’d be a great bullpen piece, but don’t know that he’s ever done that.

by QuincyCub on Apr 10, 2010 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

hopefully

they’d start Shark.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean

Marshall.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 10, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 10, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sure hope not!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus Samardzija??

Are you high Drew?

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Apr 10, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's actually Jeff

What you said – that’s just what Hendry calls him.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 10, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

hee :)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Apr 10, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

-1

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 10, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure about this being Good:

Zambrano gave up 3 runs in 7 IP on 110 pitches to a team that was 11 / 16 in runs scored last year.

What is Good:

Homers. We haven’t hit a lot of homers for years now.

2009 – 5 / 16
2008 – 5 / 16
2007 – 11 / 16
2006 – 9 / 16
2005 – 2 / 16

I’d really like to see some power this year, but I dunno who it’s going to come from. Aramis can hit 30+, Lee can hit 30+, and it appears as if Byrd is off to a hot start. I’d like to say Geo can hit another couple dozen dongs, but he’s real, real cold in 2010 thus far. For a guy that claimed to be in shape in spring training, Hill is playing too much already.

Dan

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Apr 10, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't call Byrd's start hot

If I’m correct, his only two hits were HR’s. He has to do more than that -- not saying he hasn’t helped!

by ak123 on Apr 10, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one really hitting

Look at some of the good teams like Philly, StL, Yankees etc. and their batting averages at this point have guys at .400, .500 etc. Do we have anyone above .300 besides Kouske? With the bullpen blows we’re fortunate to be 2-3.

I think we’ll be OK but am worried about Soto and, to lesser extent, Sori, but I know he’ll sit if he doesn’t produce and Colvin can rake. Soto’s backup doesn’t hit much (Hill).

Be interesting to see tomorrow as this kid is supposed to be very poised with command. Gorzo is a good 6-inning guy but has control issues, often.

by QuincyCub on Apr 10, 2010 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm going to wait and see with Colvin

The league is bound to figure him out at some point, so I want to see how he adjusts over the course of the season.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the record, Grabow didn't exactly look good as he nearly coughed up the lead again.

It took a leaping stab by DLee to prevent a sure game tying double on a blast towards the corner that few other 1Bs could have reached.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Apr 10, 2010 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll take it

I don’t think it can be underestimated how spectacular fielding behind a pitcher can help his confidence down the stretch.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 10, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

a playoff bound team

gets those breaks – they get the seeing eye singles – the lucky stabs that save games – the walk off hits – last year we didnt get those, the year before we did. Hopefully we will get them this year and get to the playoffs.

I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
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by hansman1982 on Apr 10, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee saved the game

It should not be lost that Lee’s catch of Bruce’s line shot to end the eighth surely preserved the 4-3 lead and saved so much grief,

by bourbon_and_branch on Apr 10, 2010 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Out of town scores:

Houston just fell behind 6-5 courtesy of a two-run blast by Ryan Howard. They are still searching for their first win this season.

NCAA Men’s Hockey Championship is currently BC 3, Wisconsin 0 :(:(

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Article in last Sunday's NYTimes about the longball

 Teams who don’t hit HR in games win a third of them. So I’ll take HRs.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Apr 10, 2010 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

its a silly statement

because its a spoiled a sample

a HR generates Runs

every time a team goes scoreless they can’t hit a HR. So every shutout gets counted as a loss. That’s just a small example of the reason that type of sample is skewed

because HR’s generate runs comparing the team who hits more in an individual game is already being given a head start

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 10, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

But how many times do teams get shut out in a year?

Last year’s team, which was a bit run-challenged, got shut out 12 times. That seems like a lot, but it’s still fewer than 10% of total games.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

its not just shut outs

Home Runs naturally score runs so when you don’t hit a HR you’re likely at a disadvantage compared to your opp (except in the rare game neither team hits a HR)

i

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Apr 12, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Link to said article

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Apr 10, 2010 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Try again.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 10, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trying again

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/sports/baseball/04longball.html

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Apr 10, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really nice win

It felt good to get the late game-winning homer instead of giving it.

by Mapmaker on Apr 10, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

feeling especially good we earned the w today because

I think the reds are going to nuke gorz on sunday. Hoping against it, but Opening week on Sunday, home teams would seem to want to put on the hit parade. Just a gut feeling.

"Hey Hey, Holy Mackerel, No Doubt About It!"

by scottsdalecubs on Apr 11, 2010 12:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Thank you , Al for posting that rule.

I’m a little league umpire and know a very good bit of the rules including this one. I know you’re thinking well this is the major league, but, the little league and major league rules are very very similar. High school and college rules differ somewhat.

Theriot would have made Bucknor’s call much much easier if he would have continued on to third and had been thrown out at third. I could guarantee you he would have been awarded third then. It is just instinct to go back to second base once your obstructed with. I wish I could hear the conversation between Lou and Bucknor but I’ll bet Bucknor said something about going all the way to third. I think Bucknor made the correct call.

United we stand and united we'll fall......down on our knees the day we win it all!

by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 11, 2010 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

JUST FINE????

They will not be just fine! This team struggles to score 4 runs! You really need to stop using ERA to justify anything. It doesn’t tell the whole story. I’m impressed by the win, but this team cannot continue to play one-run ball games. They’re not build to win them. The bullpen sucks too bad and the offense just isn’t good enough. They don’t clog the bases enough in front of the homers to pile up runs that way. The team needs to upgrade the pen stat and demote Marlon Byrd behind Soriano and Fontenot (not to mention Nady when he plays). Soto too when he starts to put it together. This team is headed towards massive failure with Byrd as the five hitter.

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by jameslcrockett on Apr 11, 2010 3:45 PM CDT reply actions  

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