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Ted Lilly, Soon To Return To A Ballpark Near You: Cubs vs. Astros Preview, Saturday 4/17, 12:05 CT

If you're in or near the Peoria area, you can see Ted Lilly's second rehab start on Monday, when he faces Burlington, a Royals affiliate. And then, Bruce Miles tells us:

"We're going to let him go 75 to 80 pitches and if he's fine after that one, we'll get him back in the rotation either over the weekend in Milwaukee or as soon as we get back here at home (against Washington)," [manager Lou] Piniella said.

Lilly's return will likely mean a shift to the bullpen for either Carlos Silva or Tom Gorzelanny, the latter of whom starts today against Houston. Piniella said Silva and Gorzelanny will each get another start next week against the Mets in New York.

If Gorzelanny throws well today and against the Mets, and Silva has another solid start, this will be a good problem to have. Me, I think I'd put Gorz in the pen; he seems better suited to bullpen duty and that would give the Cubs another lefthanded relief arm who can pitch multiple innings in addition to Sean Marshall. If Lilly is on target for a rotation return after Monday's start, he could go as soon as next Saturday in Milwaukee.

Don't forget the early (12:05 CDT) start today; this is one of seven early Saturday home game starts for the Cubs this year. Unlike past years, these early starts will be available on MLB Extra Innings as well as MLB.TV, for those of you who subscribe to those services.

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Today's Starting Pitchers
Tom Gorzelanny
Tom Gorzelanny
Cubs
vs. Roy Oswalt
Roy Oswalt
Astros
0-0 W-L 0-2
0.00 ERA 3.75
7 SO 11
2 BB 4
0 HR 1
vs. Hou -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Tom Gorzelanny 0-0 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.1 4 1 0 0 2 7 0.00 .95


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Roy Oswalt 0-2 2 2 0 0 0 0 12.0 12 5 5 1 4 11 3.75 1.33

Roy Oswalt has made 29 starts against the Cubs; his 13-12, 3.81 mark is a bit worse than his career W-L record and ERA. He was 1-1, 3.32 in four starts vs. the Cubs last year. Aramis Ramirez and Derrek Lee, as you might expect, have faced him most; A-Ram is 16-for-67 (.239) with three doubles and four HR. D-Lee is 16-for-58 (.276), with four doubles and three HR.

Tom Gorzelanny had a good spring and a good first start of 2010 -- so let's hope he builds on that today. Lifetime vs. Houston in seven appearances (six starts), he's been pretty bad -- 1-4, 5.01 with a ton of walks. He has not faced any current Astro more than eight AB (Jeff Keppinger, 2-for-8), and Carlos Lee is 3-for-7 with a HR.

Cable-only again: CSN Chicago and FSN Houston. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

SB Nation game preview

Please visit our SB Nation Astros site The Crawfish Boxes.

With the earlier start, this afternoon's first pitch thread will be up at 12 noon CDT, and the overflows will post at 1, 2 and 2:45 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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I must be up too late...

anyway…

Let’s clinch the series today Cubs!!

gotta take advantage of playing crappy teams to get some momentum going… :)

"People ask me a lot about the values I got from playing for the Cubs for so many years. The value I got out of it was patience. A lot of people these days are not very patient." -- Ernie Banks

by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Apr 17, 2010 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Looks like nobody else around yet... lol

Guess I should get to bed… I wonder if I’m the only one at this site that can’t wait for night games (when I can actually follow games live without staying up all night!)

"People ask me a lot about the values I got from playing for the Cubs for so many years. The value I got out of it was patience. A lot of people these days are not very patient." -- Ernie Banks

by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Apr 17, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crack another beer and stick around for the first pitch

I get the feeling that the early start time is gonna throw a lot of people off.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not really a fan...

…of these early starts. Just pushing the game back to 1 would do a world of good.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 17, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's win this series today!

Got a bunch of friends from here in Denver at the game today! Go Cubs Go!

You will never move forward by looking back....

by By Santo's Grace on Apr 17, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Morning all..

go cubbies.. good win yesterday. lets keep the momentum going!

Go Cubs Go!!

by mkcubs21 on Apr 17, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I've thought about this too.

Maybe it’d be the kick in the ass that Z needs. It’ll never happen, but something worth thinking about.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

False

Wood only went to the bullpen because of injury risk.

by JohnM on Apr 17, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fact: Bears eat beets.

Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Question: What is the best type of bear?

What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks? Is anybody listening to me?

by lswaidz on Apr 17, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

Lou does not have the balls to that, just like he does not have it to bench Soriano.

Their paychecks mean to much to the lineup. i guess.

by TJ11 on Apr 17, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

This would be like putting Soriano on the bench as a pinch hitter

Nothing good could really come of it mentally for Z

What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks? Is anybody listening to me?

by lswaidz on Apr 17, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's been the

weakest link in the rotation thus far. No doubt about that.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Apr 17, 2010 10:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sure.

But I’m responding to the comment that he can ONLY go up from here.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I

gotcha.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Apr 17, 2010 11:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

do you know

if Zambrano can warm up that fast?

You cannot cookie-cutter pitchers. This is a bad idea. Z is what he is, and you’re simply going to have to live with it.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course I'm leaving for Ohio tomorrow for the week...

Right as The Living God Better Known As Theodore Roosevelt “Ted” Lilly (TLGBKATRTL) comes to town… gentlemen hide your wives and lock up your daughters, Ted’s gonna burn Peoria to the ground.

What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks? Is anybody listening to me?

by lswaidz on Apr 17, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Nope

I already gave my Lazy Boy Recliner a heads-up that he’s in for a long Saturday…

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Apr 17, 2010 10:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Caption

Mikhail Kosuke Baryshnikov and Rudolf Marlon Nureyev perform their balletic interpretative dance “Flyball Tragique” from “Swan Dive on Lake Michigan”.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 17, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

lol!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 17, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

OLE!

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

lineup

riot
dome
lee
ramirez
byrd
soriano
font
soto
gorz

I'm part of the Byrd Watchers!

by lexmarklover on Apr 17, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Probably closely corresponds to

a) Riot leading off,
b) Sori in LF, or
c) All of the above

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see…

So basically he hasn’t been paying close attention during the last three years.

by chilango2 on Apr 17, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Him

Or Lou?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

ISWYDT

You’re very sharp, even at this ungodly time of day.

by chilango2 on Apr 17, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've never really understood faux maskings of words

to me it’s like putting saran wrap over the “naughty” bits. It seems pointless.

"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou

by Emelie on Apr 17, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

It gets around filters

If such exist.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah. I see, said the blind man.

that’s a good point.

"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou

by Emelie on Apr 17, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

to his deaf son

as he picked up his hammer and saw

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 17, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

So much for the 2-3 starts a week for Colvin

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 17, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lou was talking about his fantasy team

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

took what? two weeks for Lou to fail this very basic follow through

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 17, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

God forbid a manager changes his mind

after all Lou should be a robot, right?

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 17, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

so much for Colvin getting 2-3 starts a week

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 17, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also, Ramirez has either hit a home run, or looked lost at the plate

why not give Tracy a start there. He might actually be worth something as a pinch hitter if he actually gets some consistent at-bats

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 17, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I should make it clear, I'm talking about Ramirez getting a day off

not be replaced in the every day starting lineup

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 17, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think this will be coming next week sometime

as the cubs are playing 19 days straight

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 17, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lets do this Cubbies

Take care of business here and we will be fine

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 17, 2010 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

WOO-HOO! I can watch the game today!

As an MLB Extra Innings subscriber, Saturday’s usually mean BLACKOUTS. When I pay $200 bones for baseball, I want to see EVERY game. If I wanted to watch the Yankees or Red Sox on Fox, I would. But I don’t…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Apr 17, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Caption:

“Kosuke Fukudome and Marlon Byrd find out the Statue of Liberty Play does not work in baseball.”

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 17, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope the Cubs are feeling okay after the Blackhawks game last night.

They sure looked like they were having fun. Z in particular. It was awesome to see Fukudome there too, that made my night.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

That was cool, seeing them there

Think the Hawks bounce back after that loss nicely

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 17, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know much about hockey...

…but it didn’t seem like they played very aggressively.

I’m trying to think of who all was there. Dempster, Riot, Fontenot, Silva, Marmol, Z, Fukudome, Marshall, Berg?, Tracy?, Colvin…anyone else?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

me

Both games yesterday and tomorrow. My liver hates me

by 300LevelBleacherBum on Apr 17, 2010 11:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nice!

Again, I’m not much of a hockey fan, but I was fortunate enough to sit 7 rows behind the glass for a Wings/Hawks game last playoffs. It was nuts.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is the sense I got as well

but I think it was first playoff game jitters

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 17, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wanna know

what all the names on the backs of the jerseys were. I wonder if they got Dome’s ok to call him “Fuky”.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's the team's nickname for him in any case

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

All I saw was Theriot and

his jersey said Riot on the back.

by sue369 on Apr 17, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

i saw

Geo
Kuky
Sori
Riot

not sure about the others

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 17, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Caption:

Both players muttering to themselves, “what’s he doing here. I thought I was the only one who played outfield?”

by 100yearitch on Apr 17, 2010 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

What should I do?

I’m working today, but could be up at the ballpark around 1pm or so. I’d miss about an hour of the game. Do I go?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

This is one of those games I'd rather watch on TV.

It’s nippy out and it’s the Asstros. But that’s just me.

by chilango2 on Apr 17, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hear ya.

It’ll depend on a number of factors. The score of the game when I leave. The inning. And my feelings on the likelihood of getting a cheap ticket. I’m hoping to pay $20 or less from a scalper…is that doable?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I’ve never had good luck dealing the a-hole scalpers.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

find

a b-hole scalper then.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go look for ballhawk.

He can tell you who to talk to. Or hang out with him.

by chilango2 on Apr 17, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Until a ball clears the fence

Then it’s every man for himself

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bill Cartwright?

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 17, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try the box office first

You can get SRO for under $15. I don’t know what tier this game is in, but if it’s a bargain day, a bleacher ticket should set you back around $25.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

GO!

I'm part of the Byrd Watchers!

by lexmarklover on Apr 17, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

2nd best part of the entire post, aside from Teddy recovering quickly...
nlike past years, these early starts will be available on MLB Extra Innings as well as MLB.TV, for those of you who subscribe to those services.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 17, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

just about game time..

i’m sure a lot of people stumble in late.. go cubbies!1

Go Cubs Go!!

by mkcubs21 on Apr 17, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Hopefully that only pretains to fans and not players.

One of the Cubs had at least 3 Bud Lights in front of him.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 17, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

JUMP!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 17, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

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