Reason 12,768 To Eliminate Blackouts: Cubs vs. Astros Preview, Sunday 4/18, 1:20 CT
by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2010 11:00 AM CDT
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PrintYesterday afternoon -- or really, last night, by the time it was over -- the Mets beat the Cardinals 2-1 in 20 innings; the game lasted seven minutes short of seven hours (6:53). Many of you turned last night's recap into an impromptu game thread for that game, which looked like fun.
And yet, thanks to the fact that this game was one of Fox's Saturday selections yesterday, no one outside of New York or St. Louis could see the end of it, even though many who are not Mets or Cardinals fans were interested.
Who does this benefit? I realize Fox paid billions of dollars for the postseason and does these games as part of the deal, but in my opinion, in 2010 regionalizing telecasts and blacking them out does not take into account the national nature of fan interest in baseball. What if MLB allowed, for example, games like this to be posted to MLB.TV or MLB Extra Innings once they passed the three-hour window that Fox carves out for itself (3 pm - 6 pm Central time)? Or maybe a judgment call could be made after four hours? I know I would have liked to watch the end of this game; I wound up following the audio on my phone via the MLB At Bat app, but watching it would have been much more interesting.
Food for thought, anyway. Now, about the game itself: what is it about the Mets and long games? The Mets have been involved in the three longest games (by innings) in National League history that actually came to a decision (there was one longer, a 1-1, 26-inning tie between the Braves and Dodgers in 1920): a 23-inning game on May 31, 1964 (the second game of a DH, no less), a 24-inning game on April 15, 1968 (the longest 1-0 game in major league history), and a 25-inning game on September 11, 1974. (Incidentally, note that Ed Sudol was the plate umpire for all three of those games.) Note also that in all three of those games, multiple relief pitchers threw multiple innings, including ten innings of relief thrown by Gaylord Perry in the 1964 game.
So why on Earth is Tony LaRussa putting backup infielders in to throw in last night's game? As soon as I heard that, I knew the Cardinals were basically giving up. Why didn't they do what the Cubs did on August 15, 2006? That was an 18-inning game in Houston; Rich Hill, who was supposed to start the next afternoon, finished the game with two innings of relief, and the Cubs called up Sean O'Malley to start the next day. (Pitched the game of his life, too.)
Now, maybe the Cardinals have roster issues that would prevent them from doing this. But modern baseball, where no manager seems to want to let a reliever throw more than two innings, can really hurt a team if a game goes this long. (Not that I have a problem with the Cardinals losing last night.) The Mets eventually used starter Mike Pelfrey to finish up -- St. Louis wound up with Kyle Lohse in left field. Why not just have him pitch? You'd like to hope that if the Cubs played a game this long, that Lou would save Sean Marshall to pitch four or five extra innings. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Anyway, as Cubs fans we got two good things out of the game: a completely overtaxed Mets bullpen for next week's series, and the Cardinals lost.
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Wandy Rodriguez has the reputation of someone who gives the Cubs fits. Yet, in 13 career starts, he's just 4-4, 3.84, and is off to a terrible start this year, with that 6.10 ERA and six walks in 10.1 innings. Derrek Lee mashes against him: 14-for-29 (.483) with three doubles and three HR. It appears if the Cubs can wait Wandy out, force him to throw strikes, good things can happen. Look for Xavier Nady to get a start today.
Ryan Dempster's career mark vs. Houston includes quite a number of relief appearances (and 16 saves) against them when he was a closer. Those aren't really relevant; more so are the three no-decisions he put up against them last year with a 4.00 ERA. Current Astros are hitting .313 (50-for-160) against Demp with four HR. Today's supposed to be cool with the wind blowing in again, so if he can keep the ball down, it can be a good day for him. (And then maybe he'll stop staring at us. Scary photo!)
Today's game is on WGN and also FSN Houston (for EI viewers). Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Astros site The Crawfish Boxes.
This afternoon's first pitch thread will be up at 1:15 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 2:15, 3:15 and 4 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Astros line-up (per RotoWorld)
CF Bourn
2B Keppinger
3B Feliz
LF Lee 7
RF Pence 9
1B Blum
SS Manzella
C Quintero
P Rodriguez
Go Cubs Go!
Couldn't agree more, Al...
As an MLB Extra Innings subscriber, I would have loved to have seen this game. Any game that goes into the 14th or 15th inning automatically turns into must-see TV because of all the crazy managerial moves. The game lasted 7 HOURS! What’s the harm in flipping the “on” switch once the Saturday Fox game has been completed?
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Fox should have put this on National
and I bet they would have had good ratings across the board
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This post has exceeded the common sense limit
Therefore the poster must be banned from the internetz…immediately.
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... Crews are out trying to fix the internetz now...
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But then I wouldn't have been able to watch"America's Most Wanted!"
The horror!
Really good idea…so good that it probably won’t happen.
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by Curtain Jerker on Apr 18, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that is some quality entertainment there
(anyone feel free to insert sarc tag)
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Affiliates never would have permitted it
The ones that did carry it were likely pulling their hair out. They’ve sold commercial time for the shows that would have been preempted. Even if more people would watch a baseball game, they aren’t the same people that would have watched the “2 1/2 Men” rerun that was airing on my Fox affiliate. The affiliates would have to make up the commercial time for their advertisers.
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by Josh Timmers on Apr 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely, Josh
The network just cannot take away time from the local affiliates that were NOT carrying this game. The local Fox stations that were airing this game have a ton of make-good commercials to re-schedule, with all the local programming that was lost.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 18, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, then why not allow the game to be
shown on MLB.com or the MLB channel?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I know it would not have happened
but the idea was brought upon by seeing it happen before
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I also wonder why FOX seemingly can't switch people away from blowouts.
Last year, the Yankees lost to the Indians by the score of 20-2 or something like that. And yet they never switched away from the game.
That is mindless idiocy as well.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i too remember seeing that same game here in Austin
and sadly that was my lone choice for a game
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Tony La Russa is a so-called genius, but after watching that game from the 11th on...
…his decisions were really questionable.
As for today’s game, Wandy Rodriquez is finally starting to get some national attention. The article in SI about him last week is very good. I bet we take the series today, 6-2.
Dan
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Just fyi, it's Ryan O'malley whi got called up, not Sean
cubs = love
by cubs ftw on Apr 18, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I knew what he meant
It didn’t sound right, but I don’t think we’ll ever forget that game regardless.
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
Yeah, I realized I wrote that....
… while I was at the game, too late to change it. -48 BCB points for that (O’Malley’s number).
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Interesting point from last night's Cards-Mets boxscore
J Reyes, J Francoeur, and J Bay were 0-21, but Reyes and Francoeur’s sac flys ended up being the difference in the game.
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good god
TLR needs to retire, hes over the hill, lost, out of it, seriously he just needs to go back to his Florida home and retire already…oh wait that wasnt Lou. I think in the 13th inning you get your 4th or 5th starter throwing and let him pitch until his arm falls off and call up someone from AAA to throw next time out. Saves the bullpen at least. Also I think we found out last night that Pujols might not have his career year this year because noone is going to pitch to him after a while.
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119
Every year Pujols plays is a career year.
I mean, his 162 game average is .334/43/129. A OPS+ 172 average!
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
WOW
I knew he was good, but that is mind boggling good
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Look up his stats w/RISP and 2 outs. They're absolutely ridiculous.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
How much would you pay him to be a Cub?
I’d think it would have to start at 30/mil a year.
2010 is OUR year.
It's gonna take at least 25 just to keep in in St. Louis
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by Curtain Jerker on Apr 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Hes either a redbird for life
or he is going to the AL to be a future DH’er
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119
At least that much. STL is going to have a tough time keeping him, IMO, but I think they'll get it done.
This guy could be the greatest player ever when all is said and done.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
I would do it actually.
The question is – will STL offer him enough to accept?
I hope not.
2010 is OUR year.
i think the actual question is
can then not will they. they will offer every red cent they can no doubt
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
whatever it took
he can have all the revenue from the hated Toyota sign if needed
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
We can brand it into his bats!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
if thats what it takes
GETITDONEJIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
No one pitched to Pujols because of a TLR move
He double-switched at some point (one of many) and put the pitcher behind Pujols. No manager in their right mind will throw to Pujols when the pitcher is due up behind him.
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by Bill Potter on Apr 18, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait...what?
He took Holliday out of a game so he could line-up juggle? No wonder guys on VEB are pissed.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Apr 18, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, go back and look at the box
(here). Looks like the move was made in the 9th, which means Pujols was unprotected in the lineup the rest of the way.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
i might walk Pujols with the bases loaded
give up one to him instead of toy with a GS
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That was *after* Holliday
Had already gone 0-5
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
yes Bay was 0-7
who would have thunk it
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
To be fair to La Russa
It wasn’t his fault his charges went 1-18 with RISP.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Apr 18, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone can go 4-4 or 0-4 in any given day
some do it more often than others, and it is a part of the game that makes it intersting
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Well, i miss all the fun again
Still, I am looking for some good Cubs baseball, and A Cubs win!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Here In Indianapolis I actually got to see full game.
They kept the game all the whole time in Indy. I’m with you guys..Tony LaRussa made a mockery out of this game.
I for see a Cubs win today, but I wouldn’t underestimate Wandy. He’s a really good pitcher. More so at home, but he’s had tough pitching matchups so far and some tough luck.
by Les Lancaster's Mullet on Apr 18, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions
Yea, I saw it here in Atlanta too.
I had actually forgot it was on until I was flipping through some channels and caught it in the 18th. Hopefully they go into extras again today and both teams have to wear down their bullpens even more.
There's an ad on MLB,com
About getting MLB network on dish network. Anyone know any info about this?
AC0000000
Next Year
I was curious about Wandy Rodriguez vs. the Cubs
And why we believe him to be a Cub-killer, even with his 4-4 record, etc. 3 of those Ls were in his 3 appearances in his rookie year (2005), since then he has gone 4-1. He has also not recorded a decision vs. the Cubs since July of 2008 (4 appearances with ND). He has not recorded a loss vs. the Cubs since July of 2007 (6 appearances). Since July, 2007, the Cubs have gone 2-5 vs. HOU in games Wandy has started. We see Wandy, we assume L, because that’s all we’ve seen for most of the the last 3 seasons (ERA of 1.7 in those last 7 starts).
Wandy’s career WHIP vs. CHC is 1.299, and is 1.27 since July, 2007. Pretty consistent – we can get on base against this guy, we just need to figure out a way to string a few together and get some runs home. In his three appearances vs. the Cubs last year, he gave up 1 run in each.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
He has a whip of almost 2 this year
So the key to this game is hitting with runners in scoring position.
AC0000000
Next Year
Well, you could say that about anyone...
But I agree – we get ’em on against him. Our problem (lately) has been getting ’em over and getting ’em in.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That's some serious knowledge!
Makes me a little more worried about today.
by Les Lancaster's Mullet on Apr 18, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Here in Philadelphia
The Cards-Mets game was on until the end. Didn’t get over until a little past 11 eastern time. Didn’t even get the local fox news telecast.
My local Fox station
Switched over to the late local news once the game ended. They usually broadcast their planned programming if a game runs long like that.
Not this time, though.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
So who do we root for in Mets/Cards game today?
I’m saying have the Cardinals mash as many balls out of the park as they can to get to Mets bullpen today.
But then again, I think it might be one of those games where the starter is going to have to stay in and eat up runs even if it inflates an ERA.
I'm with you
This seems like a “take one for the team” night for the starters.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Apr 18, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup, pity the starting pitchers in that game.
They’ll probably have to take one for the team, no matter what. Frankly, I’m hoping for a score like 17-15 or something, let them use up all their hits on each other, then we get the depleted Mets to knock around.
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
exactly
surprised if no moves to send an arm down and bring one up hasnt happened today for both teams
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We root for 20 more innings...
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
I vote for 20 more
with both starters gone by the 3rd. Yadi gets the night off, I think.
In Arkansas
We got to watch the entire Cards/Mets game on Fox but since Houston is considered a “hometown” team, we were blacked out from yesterday’s game. How a team 9 hours away can be considered a “local” team is crazy.
A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.
by FSArkCubsFan on Apr 18, 2010 11:57 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I get Houston or NY/Bos more often than not
and I am close tobeing a mid point between Arlington and Houston. I should get Ranger games before Yankee or Boston, go figure as well
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Pitching coach for AZL Rangers
According to Wikipedia
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Why don't you just dial "O" to find out?
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by katie casey on Apr 18, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The game was on in it's entirety in Kansas City...
…because when I was out last night, I saw they had it on in the bar. I looked up at the t.v. and saw it was 0-0 in the 17th inning. What a crazy day in baseball yesterday. Ubaldo Jimenez throws the first no-hitter in Rockies history, and the Cardinals and Mets play to 20 innings. That’s why you gotta love this game.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
Where are you in KC?
I watched it at Lew’s last night.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Ahhh very cool.
I’m in the northland, just off NW 64th street and I-29.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
+1 & Hi Sue
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Hey Sue
sorry about your, err our Bulls yesterday
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Yeah doing better
The drinking I did yesterday helped somewhat.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
lets get a win today to make everything feel a lil better
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
I kind of expected a game like that.
I think they come back and play better tomorrow night.
How are you doing?
Doing better now
Lots of beer helped, he he
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Yeah good food and beer
can’t beat it, he he
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
doody
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
time
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Hi Sue.
How is the day going so far?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Doing fine,
Although it is raining here.
P.S.: Please refer to me by my BCB username while here.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
rained here yesterday
guess its your turn He Who Shall Not Be Called M….
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
It's been raining for several days.
Stop sending it to us!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
thundery showers in Munich
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Too late, he he
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Let's do this Cubs!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
If Demp keeps pitching the way has has been thus far in 2010...
the Cubs will be fine today :)
A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.
Hopefully the offense for the Cubs comes through early
and often.
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by Craig in South Bend on Apr 18, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
^This^
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
And I was just about to answer this.
I like that lineup, too.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow I really like that lineup...
not too many weeknesses in there at all. i like having nady protect aramis in the 5th spot too.
A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.
I like the lineup except for one thing
No Tyler Colvin.
He’s had one start in the last 8 games. that’s exactly how NOT to use the guy, and if that’s all the time you can give him in the starting lineup, send him to Iowa
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 18, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
But...but where is the savior??
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I'd rather have Soriano hit against a LHP
than Colvin.
I'm part of the Byrd Watchers!
by lexmarklover on Apr 18, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes sense since we are going to NY
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I love this lineup
I'm part of the Byrd Watchers!
by lexmarklover on Apr 18, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
No Colvin
bad lineup. Bringing Fuld up is now academic as he is clearly injured. It appears to have happened in Iowa . If they need a spare outfielder it is going to be a long drop to Aducci & Snyder. If only they had brought him with.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
What happened to him?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Some problem with his hand
Was going to Chicago last Monday to have it looked at. No word since but as far as I know he has not been placed on the DL so maybe it is not too serious.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok good to know nothing serious
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I don't really know
I am assuming if it had been he would be on the DL but he hasn’t played all week.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
reminds me of Geo, Lee, and Sori last seaosn early
none could play, none went to the DL
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Doubt they do that in the minors
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure you have better defense
but having Soriano in the lineup makes it a better lineup.
I'm part of the Byrd Watchers!
by lexmarklover on Apr 18, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the fact that Dome is resting today.
He needs it since he is mired in a 1-for-12 slump.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a SCARY OF
How do you NOT play Colvin? Your LF can’t catch, your RF can’t throw long and your CF is not that good defensively.
Demp had better not let much go in the air. I am predicting some extra ugly fielding in the OF.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
If he keeps the ball down
He won’t have to worry about that.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Some how, I'm not too worried, but we will see what happens
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
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He is a little below adverage
Which is not terrible except that the guys on either side of him have issues and he won’t be able to help.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand that.
He’s about average to me, but I see your point.
Let’s just hope all the fly balls are hit toward him more-so than anyone else out there.
2010 is OUR year.
Agaisnt LHP.....
I see no reason why we should not RAKE….especially Today.
by BadDecisions on Apr 18, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Not only was the majority of the country robbed if this laughfest
but no one, not Fox, not ESPN, not MLBN, were able to show the Rockies’ ninth inning and the no-hitter. Ri-goddamn-diculous.
Hope springs eternal: Cubs in 2010!
by neverAcquiesce on Apr 18, 2010 12:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
FWIW: Bottom of 2nd, 0 outs, bases loaded, Sox 0 Cle 3 - Looks like a long day for the south siders
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@Twitter as @brommmietze
and now a GS for Cle...
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Its really funny...
before the season started the Sox were this offensive juggernaut, and they were gonna resort to “Ozzie Ball” and be this high scoring fundamentally sound team. Everyone on ESPN and especially the Score had Ozzie as Manager of the year. In addition to the Cubs sucking. God I love baseball..The Chicago White Sox will have a worse record than the Cubs..You can print that.
by BadDecisions on Apr 18, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
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"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Sox records
to me is not important, they can win 100 or lose 100, neither puts the Cubs in the playoffs. I only care about the Sox record against the NL since i want them to beat everyone but the Cubs to help us
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
I use to have that mindset..
But living in the southside I have a ton of white sox fans. I got sorta sick of taking the hide road and not retaliating. It never really accomplished much ever. I now take part and have fun razzing my buddies every time the sox falter.
by BadDecisions on Apr 18, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Blackouts are so pre-90's strike
Why not just offer all games online, a la carte, for $.99 each, iTunes style? You can also subscribe to a team for a monthly fee, just like they do now… they can present the games with web ads, just like hulu, and MLB and the teams get a cut. It’s so simple it’s stupid.
What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks? Is anybody listening to me?
That's smart, so it won't happen
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
That makes perfect sense.
Which is probably why it will never happen.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Technology has evolved faster than the dinosaurs running the sport
Not to worry: they too, shall soon be extinct and become fossils.
by JFCubFan on Apr 18, 2010 1:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
or put the games on PPV for $1-2 each
and a person can individually purchase games, that way people without internet can still get the games and MLB stands to make that much more.
The blackouts are stupid IMHO because people move around the country now its not like we live in huts and drive wagons
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Bud Selig thinks we still do.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait...
There are people without internet…?
What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks? Is anybody listening to me?
FYI OT
Tonight at 7:30 Hawks Game Two….CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
i think its a must win
I'm part of the Byrd Watchers!
by lexmarklover on Apr 18, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
yes it is IMHO
and a Should Win no less
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
agreed, they can win, if they just play their game.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
awww...
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Figures I'll be in a car on the way to Ohio
Sucks
What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks? Is anybody listening to me?
Baseball on WGN!
YAY!!!!
I am at my parents’, which means I get the game … though what is with all the strange hats?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions
its whacky hat day at the ballpark
honeslty, I have no clue but it sounds like a good idea
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
WGN is
about 15 years behind times. I can’t stand it.
How come they STILL have the old Astros logo?
2010 is OUR year.
WGN ust showed a replay of the ball nailing Gorzelanny.
Man, that looks like it hurt. I still remember seeing Prior getting hit like that in 2005.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions
I was at that game
If I remember the ball ricocheted with such force that the 3rd baseman caught it on the fly.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Apr 18, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You computer is right.
I’m seeing the same thing.
And that’s just the top of the first.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Marquis is responbile for the first 8 without recording an out.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Top of 1st too
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
who thinks that could be a 14-13 finish?
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Something is wrong with him
He walked a guy with the bases loaded and then hit one. Marquis is NOT that bad.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone know if the Cubs are heading to the Hawks game after?
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
probably not, they start a road trip in NY tomorrow
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
My guess is they leave for NY when this game ends.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Jump
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