How Much Does $146 Million Buy? Cubs vs. Mets Preview, Wednesday 4/21, 6:10 CT
by Al Yellon on Apr 21, 2010 5:00 PM CDT
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There was some discussion in one of the threads in the last couple of days about payrolls and where the Cubs rank. Maury Brown at Biz of Baseball has the complete breakdown of Opening Day payrolls here. The Cubs rank third behind the Yankees and Red Sox; the Cubs' OD payroll was, according to this article, $146,609,000, an 8.75% increase over Opening Day 2009. The Cubs also ranked third last year, although the Mets were second then, the Red Sox fourth.
In addition to your obvious comment that "the Cubs aren't getting their money's worth", at least not at the present time, the following teams may be in financial trouble if they continue to draw crowds as small as they have this week: Mariners, Orioles, Royals, Blue Jays, Nationals, Indians, and Toronto and Cleveland even with their 20% decrease in player payroll from last year. The Pirates can probably handle the small crowds with their last-place payroll of $34,943,000.
Looks like Ted Lilly's return will be Saturday in Milwaukee; I was planning on going to that game anyway and am happy I'll be able to see Ted's 2010 debut.
Lineup via tweet from Carrie:
#cubs lineup wed is ss theriot, 2b baker, 1b lee, cf byrd, 3b ramy, lf sori, c soto, rf colvin, p silva
So Colvin sits vs. Pelfrey and starts vs. a LHP? I don't get it.
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Oliver Perez has had a strange career. A top Padres prospect, he was sent to the Pirates in the Brian Giles trade (along with Jason Bay, a pretty good deal for Pittsburgh). He has had really good years (2004, 2007). And really bad ones (2006, 2009). The Cubs have done pretty well against him -- he's 1-3, 5.59 in eight career starts. Current Cubs, though, are hitting only .230 (14-for-61) against Perez. Bottom line: who knows what he might do tonight?
Carlos Silva has made one career start vs. the Mets: June 18, 2007, while he was with the Twins. He threw well enough that day, but only Jose Reyes and David Wright will be among players who will play tonight, who played in that game. Most of Silva's experience vs. current Mets is from those players' days in the AL. Gary Matthews Jr. is 11-for-36 (.306) with five doubles vs. Silva. So far, Silva has thrown very well and has walked no one in 13 innings.
Today's game is back on cable: CSN Chicago and SNY. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
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Please visit our SB Nation Mets site Amazin' Avenue.
This afternoon's first pitch thread will be up at 6 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 7:15, 8:15 and 9 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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First!
And I’m guessing “only” – that other thread is too entertaining.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
no kidding
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
I assume you'll be in the bleachers on 4/28 and 4/29
Mind if I drop by to say hi?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Yes, I'll be there.
Please do stop by. See you then!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
even worse so will I
at least on the 28th. Want go go on 29th but have sold my season tickets so will probably be sitting there on Thursday & Friday.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 21, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll say hello to you both
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
do we have to whisper?
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
subject line please
so I can collapse these photos.
mmkay? thx.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 21, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll try to remember.
Seriously. I understand the problem.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm only trying
to come around when things are positive. I get mentally and emotionally drained from all the negativity in general.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
that lineup vs LHP sure lasted long didnt it?
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
Granted a
different team, but we were 5-9 in ’07 too.
Let’s turn this season around so I can start to drown out my neighboring Cardinal fans!
I'll be seeing...
The Rock Bottom Remainders here in DC, so I won’t get to see tonight’s game. Hopefully, Carlos can keep it up and the offense will wake up!
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by Chris Dobbertean on Apr 21, 2010 5:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
How Much Does $146 Million Buy?
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
That's stupid
The lineup on Monday got lots of base runners – just not timely hits. Just use the same lineup, the odds are you’ll get more runs this time around.
In all seriousness
What’s the rationale for caring about what players make or team payroll?
I would guess the biggest might be that as a frequent attendee one would see their ticket prices rise to pay for inflated salaries/payroll…but beyond that I’m not sure what it matters to the casual fan.
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Well when you have an (emotional) investment in a team
You care about how the resources are utilized.
But that's my question..
why do fans care about how the resources are utilized? How the club spends its money shouldn’t have any bearing on the emotional investment of the average fan, should it?
I need some University of Chicago grad student to go all Freakanomics on this question. ;)
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by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 21, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Sub-Par Player Development
The Cubs need to continue to work to improve their minor league system, so they don’t have to go out and get free agents or make a ton of trades to get better.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
That's more a problem with public knowledge of contracts, IMHO
Minus specific numbers, we would be forced to evaluate roster moves based solely on performance. Of course, that wouldn’t stop rampant speculation on a puzzling move being made because one player had a bigger contract, but it would remove some fuel from those fires.
Personally, I’m willing to entertain the idea that performance rules (most) roster decisions, but I’m jaded enough to not believe in that whole-heartedly.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Because we want the resources utilized in the best way possible
Surely you care about what free agents the team signs, right?
Absolutely
But I don’t care if they pay the guy 50 million or 50 thousand. It’s not my money, just get a guy who you think can do the job. knowhatimsayin?
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by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 21, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally get the point that it's not your money
But the resources aren’t unlimited, so the more you can spread it around the better. The guys who can do the job are expensive. I care if they pay the guy 50 grand as opposed 50 million, because then the team has around 149,950,000 bucks to spend on improving other facets of the team, instead of “only” 100 million. I just want the team to be good. It doesn’t bother me that Soriano has a dozen mansions or something like that.
i hear ya.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 21, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
My concern
is that the money already committed to bad players impairs the GMs ability to improve the team. That’s why I care.
DEJESUS!!!
12 IP and Perez already has 7 BB
Hope we go up their hackin! After all, that’ll send a message!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
damn
THERE.
gah.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Just curious
Why should they be “hackin” when he’s walked a ton of batters so far? Patience might be a better approach vs someone with little control.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
i was trying to be sarcastic
after all, we’re already at the point where we do things just for a “wake up call”.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Gotcha
No more staring at third strikes down the inner third of the plate.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
Mets Not Getting Much For Their Money
Since Yadier Molina hit that homer for the Cards against the Mets in the 2006 NLCS, the Mets have been nothing but disappointing. I don’t see the Mets getting to the playoffs in 2010 having to contend with the Phillies and Braves in their own division. The Mets have wasted a whole lot of money in recent years.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
FYI weather sucks here
cold & light rain.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
Hey, did anybody hear about a shakeup with the rotation and bullpen?
I kid.
That koolaide turned my tongue blue.
PV?!!??!!
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by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 21, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Jerry Mumphrey on Apr 21, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
You can't click on a link in a title of a comment.
You have to put the link in the body of the comment for it to be clickable.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
There is a link button but it doez nossing!
by Jerry Mumphrey on Apr 21, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Just paste the URL in the body of the message
SBN does everything you could want with it
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Actually I hate the timing of the Z announcement - Now I'll probably stay up to see how the team reacts.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Just for all the hoopla....
… Silva will probably throw a CG tonight.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Too bad Z's out of action until Friday
We could have had Carlos relieving Carlos, who relieved Carlos.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
This would also be known as the CCC Pyramid ?
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
If Silva even comes close to a no-hitter
I fully expect the SBNation servers to explode.
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
The servers must be good.
Silva only gave up two hits.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Let's go Cubbies!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Who says he can't?
Instead of a PH for him, he can stay in the game and hit for himself.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
True. But that roles going to be significantly reduced.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Apr 21, 2010 5:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I suppose.
Last year he averaged about two AB per start. So if he gets one per appearance, that might be just about as many total AB.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
If the Cubs start winning, this will be a "brilliant" move...
If the Cubs keep losing, then what do they do? Carlos Silva is two horrible starts away from going to the bullpen and getting Z back into the rotation…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Correct.
I hope Silva continues to pitch well. If not, that’s likely exactly what will happen.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I found a dollar in the dryer!
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
That's nothing
The Cubs found $18M in the bullpen
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Airplanes are starting to fly in Europe again.
Oh, you meant Cubs news. Nothing. Quiet day.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Boy, I wish the Cubs would just do something. You know, just to shake things up. ;)
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
We haven't scores any hits yet.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Moscow in flames
missles headed towards New York…..film at eleven.
''I'm really not a Facebook or Twitter guy. I'm a prime rib and baked potato guy.'' - Sweet Lou
in the past hour
i’ve read the phrases " wake up call" & “sends a message” so many times they don’t even sound like words anymore.
Ugh.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
I tried to call down to the front desk
To leave a wake up call, but I got voice mail, and left a message instead.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Do you understand why doing something like that can be a useful thing?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
In April?
No.
In fact the idea that we’re apparently already at the “Lets try this, maybe it’ll be good” stage is disturbing.
It feels lazy and desperate.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Lazy? Maybe. Desperate? Yes.
There’s a new boss to impress, and the last year’s marks don’t look so good.
This team needed to be shaken up.
Mission accomplished.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Disagree
the team needs to PLAY BETTER.
Panicking does nothing other than encourage pressing and trying too hard.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Yes, that's right.
The team needs to play better. Maybe this move gives them a push. You have no idea what sort of psychology goes on in the clubhouse and dugout.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
you think the position players are all that shook up about it?
sure it’s something different but other than the corner OF having a new partner to warm-up with between innings, I don’t think it will register that strongly.
Fontenot is probably relieved – no more getting pounded on in the dugout.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Silva's ERA is 0.69?
I’m betting most Cubs fans would have bet it was the REVERSE of that (9.60) at this point.
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
That guy is throwing that sinker like 90 % of the time..
It also doesn’t hurt that he’s facing pitchers instead of 9th place hitters
Correct on the last point.
Call it the “Bronson Arroyo Effect”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
However it works...
He’s been a very pleasant surprise. One of several…
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
I'm not getting too excited until his 2nd time around the league
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
So Colvin starts
against one of the wildest lefties in the league and Nady sits. I am sure Nady is pleased. Chalk up another “Lou” move that begs for explanation.
The way the Cubs are hitting, I am sure you can count on Ollie going 6 strong and no runs.
You know what would reallt stir things up?
Have Silva get absolutely shelled tonight. That might get the anti-Z to the bullpen crowd (of which I am a member) charged up.
DEJESUS!!!
so you're rooting for the Cubs to fail to get your side of the argument heard louder?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Not rooting at all
I could really use a win. Just pointing out that Silva having a bad outing will really stir things up.
DEJESUS!!!
It would.
I’m certainly not rooting for that, though.
Just win. Don’t care how, just win.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
PEDs to the rescue!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok what did I miss?
What was this about an announcement concerning Z?
"Why people, who have not committed any punishable offense, listen to Country and Western music is absolutely beyond me" - John Cleese
Ok... but did they actually announce it
or is it just speculation?
"Why people, who have not committed any punishable offense, listen to Country and Western music is absolutely beyond me" - John Cleese
Interesting...
Now we just need Lou to use him right as a LONG reliever and not as a 2 out
band aid…
"Why people, who have not committed any punishable offense, listen to Country and Western music is absolutely beyond me" - John Cleese
It's very real
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Lou on WGN radio right now!
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
It's on going
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
According to Lou:
It sounds as if the move is not permanent and that there is mutual agreement with the move, from T.R. at the top, all the way down to Z.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
What was really said....
Carlos, you’re going to the bullpen until either Silva or Gorz fuck up, then you’ll be right back in there.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Apr 21, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Now THAT's how you build team chemistry... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Z's response:
Cool. So…I should be ready to go by next week, then?
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
Rainout? I can get us a rainout. I betcha 100 bucks I can get us a rainout.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Apr 21, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Cue the Los Lobos music....
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Apr 21, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Zeke, your Mrs called the game thread last night...
…worse than trying to teach high school students. Any comment? :)
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by carmen_fanzone on Apr 21, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Was referring to juvenile, boyish interests and innuendos?
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
lol! Outstanding.
That’s my baby.
I’ve likened game threads to “Lord of the Flies”.
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
I think her quote was....
“Zeke didn’t tell me these were worse than teaching high school. TWSS and sexual innuendos all over the place”.
The other ladies on here seem to like her. Haha.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Apr 21, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
of course we did
she lobbied for fan cams to show actually attractive, non-goober, men.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
We never got married. but will hit 21 years in July - Congrats to the two of you.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Sinner!
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Apr 21, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
I'm sure thats been the same as "being married" :)
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Apr 21, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Very good analogy
I myself have likened them to the West Bank.
Sittin' on the ledge and sippin' Kool-Aid...
Cool then I won't miss any of the game
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I could really care less about changes with the pitching staff....
…I just want to start hitting the damn ball.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
I wonder if Lou will use Z like an actual long reliever....
….or like, um, Marshall.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
These two teams are like twins separated at birth..
I’ve always felt this kinship with Mets fans. They’re the only other hapless franchise that has all the resources to not be hapless – I’m hoping that the Cubs rise above that, at least for tonight. Go Carlos!
For the record, I would have started Blanco at SS and Theriot at 2B for 2010, and released either Baker or Fontenot.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 21, 2010 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
I detest the Mets and everything they stand for.
Deep, dark dislike…
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
You are right on
As a 14 year old in 1969 I spent a month in Connecticut and had to watch Met games the whole time. I hate all things Met! Especially Mr. Met!!
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Explain 1986 and 2000 please.
(And yes, I know they lost to the Yankees in 2000, but they made it to the WS, so I can’t call that hapless.)
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
Colvin finally starts
against a LHP. Does Lou know Colvin is a LHB. Is he trying to embarass him? Or is Fukudome doing so poorly that it doesn’t make a difference? Who knows with Lou nowadays.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
I doubt it
Baker set a high standard his first year and things just worse every year after. Plus people blame him for ruining Prior and Wood.
One could argue Lou ruined Z, Colvin, Stevie Ire, etc.
(Just playing devil’s advocate, not disagreeing)
Oh, it's better than that
Normally Nady would be in there but today is a “maintenance” day for him, whatever that means. Last time he played was Monday so if today is a “maintenance” day, what was yesterday?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Colvin hit lefties well in spring
Still don’t get why no Nady though
Ok this is something I like to see...
.bq “I talked to Carlos [Zambrano] today and told him we really needed him in the bullpen, and that we felt he could do a nice job for us,” Piniella said. “He said he’d do what’s best for the team. I’m very appreciative. He talked about maturing [this year]. This proves it to me.”
and
.bq “Lou called me into the office today and asked me if I wanted to go to the bullpen and help this team in the seventh and eighth innings,” Zambrano said. “I said, ‘Whatever you want me to do, I’m here for this team and I’m here to help this team. If you want me to go to the bullpen, I’ll go. If you want to keep me in the rotation, I will.’”
"Why people, who have not committed any punishable offense, listen to Country and Western music is absolutely beyond me" - John Cleese
Damn...
Quote fail…
"Why people, who have not committed any punishable offense, listen to Country and Western music is absolutely beyond me" - John Cleese
When you put " around the quote, it kills the blue box highlight.
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
I also misplaced the period before the bq
it needs to be after
"Why people, who have not committed any punishable offense, listen to Country and Western music is absolutely beyond me" - John Cleese
not if you put the " inside the < blockquote > tags
“Like this.”
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
An American League team, who is desperate for some kind of bat, might do a......
“Horrible contract for Horrible contract” trade for Soriano before the deadline. If he doesn’t play, that won’t happen. Plus Soriano has the highest BA on the team as of right now. Need the bat.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
I disagree....it we could trade Soriano tomorrow and get out from underneath the remaining years of his contract....
I’d be for it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 21, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
So since it wasn't too early for Cubs management to pull a panic move...
When can we start calling for Lou’s head? I hate when people call for a manager to be fired just because a team is losing, but he seriously makes no sense with his lineup and bullpen moves. He has seemingly no logic behind his matchup choices, and this is just a continuation from last year.
So here it is: Lou Piniella needs to be GONE. Fired, Resign, Retire, whatever. Just get off the bench of my team, old man!
May 24th
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by carmen_fanzone on Apr 21, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
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