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Why Not To Let The Other Team Clog The Bases With Walks, and Cubs vs. Diamondbacks at Phoenix Preview, Saturday 4/3, 3:10 CT

PHOENIX, Arizona -- It's always strange to walk into a major league stadium for the first time in any baseball season after attending several games at spring training parks, which are small and intimate, have a close-in-to-the-game feel, and (generally) have all day games.

Instead, last night I walked into what the locals call the "airplane hangar" in downtown Phoenix, a huge edifice that seats nearly 50,000 -- although it wasn't anywhere near that many last night -- for my first night game of the season. The roof at Chase Field stayed open for the game; that surprised me, as in the past Diamondbacks pitchers have always wanted it closed, to have more controlled conditions (no wind, although there wasn't any during last night's game).

It was also the first time I'd set foot in Chase Field since the disaster there that was otherwise known as the 2007 NLDS. Unlike those games, the park was far less than sold out Friday night. Announced attendance was 20,025, but it seemed like little more than half that in the park, maybe 12,000-13,000, just about enough to make a full house at HoHoKam Park. Nearly half the "throng" consisted of Cubs fans.

Both teams played like they had a plane to catch; the first five innings were zipped through in little over an hour, punctuated only by Mark Reynolds' two-run homer after a walk to Ryan Roberts. Other than that, Ryan Dempster had a good tuneup outing, striking out five. I'm still a bit puzzled as to why, after starters get stretched out in each spring start, adding an inning at a time, they then throw only four innings in their final preseason start; Z did this and so did Randy Wells.

The Cubs managed only three hits through the first seven, one of them a triple by spring hitting machine Tyler Colvin. In the eighth they broke through with Kosuke Fukudome's first HR of the spring; three more hits (including another XBH from Colvin) produced two runs to tie it 3-3.

Yet another walk (Cubs pitchers walked four), this one from Mitch Atkins, preceded the game-winning homer. The D'backs had only five hits, but made two of them count for four runs. And that's why walks are good, if you are the team getting them. Giving them up? Not so much.

Lou mixed and matched in the field; Colvin wound up playing all three OF positions, Xavier Nady (who made one throw, again, no detriment to the team) saw time at both RF and 1B, and (some here will be pleased to know) Jeff Baker played a couple of innings in left field. He made one putout, which turned into a sacrifice fly.

Since there's a game this afternoon in just a few hours, after the jump you'll find today's game preview info.

Star-divide

Randy Wells will start this afternoon for the Cubs; like Z and Demp, Wells is expected to go no more than four innings. The Diamondbacks will counter with mostly minor leaguers; Barry Enright will get the start for them.

Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today. At last, WGN radio and WGN-TV will do a game on the same day; you can hear either Len & Bob, or Pat & Ron.

MLB.com Gameday

SB Nation game preview

For today, the first pitch thread will post at 3 pm CDT, and with the slightly later start (3:10 instead of 3:05), the overflow thread at 4:30 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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OT note to Cowsarecool2000 & Amaru

Um any reason you two dropped out of the Fantasy League. It was an even 14 with both of you. If you both want to come back ( or some other pair) you can. Draft is in about 5 hours. I deleted the fanpost as I feared ending up with an odd number.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 3, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I would totally join

but I’ll be about 38,000 feet above the ground flying back to Peoria from San Francisco… too bad United doesn’t have in-flight wifi… a fantasy draft would be a PERFECT thing to do on a 4 1/2 hour flight

What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks? Is anybody listening to me?

by lswaidz on Apr 3, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

NO you were the 14th

I thought you saw that. There was Amaru and you and you both posted OK. Oh well if BOTH of you see this before 4.30 CST time you can try to come back ( or if someone else wants to even it out)
Probably too late but just in case here is link and info but need even numbers. Have 12 which is room for 8 more but only even numbers. Alas draft in about 2 hours & 45 minutes
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1
League number 555536. Password NYCUBS

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 3, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just a FYI

I clicked on the link to see what kind of a league it was, and upon seeing head-to-head, I quickly backed out. So I didn’t save anything but you might want to check to make sure that the league didn’t interpret my clicking as a sign-up. If it did, feel free to delete me to get your league back to even status.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 3, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

No you would have to go through registration to get in

You mean you don’t want the chance to head ot head with me every six or seven weeks?

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 3, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Believe me, going finger-to-finger with you every six or seven posts on BCB...

…is more than enough for me, thank you very much. ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 3, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You were right Cow

Someone else must have dropped out and made it 13. Did have 14 at some point.

Would have been fun.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 3, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watched the last 2 innings

and was glad to see we got to their bullpen and tied the game. Unfortunately, our BP didn’t get the job done and gave up the 2 run dinger in the 8th.

We still can’t win here, regular season, Spring Training or post season. Hopefully, today, we will get a W.

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by BigJohnAZ on Apr 3, 2010 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Soriano trade?

What is the liklihood if Colvin remains hot and Soriano doesnt perform well that Soriano gets traded to an AL team to be a DH? And why was he never put in the dh role to begin with considering how poorly his fielding skills have always been considered?

I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
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by hansman1982 on Apr 3, 2010 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Unlikely.

No one’s going to take that contract.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even if the cubs agreed to pay half the salary

Im not sure anyone would take it. Completely serious.

by KButler on Apr 3, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I broached that subject in a comment a long time ago...

…and it makes for interesting off-season musing.

If you’re another team’s GM, how much would the price have to drop, i.e. Cubs eating salary, before it becomes at least plausible to think about. I think at that time, I set the initial bar at half the salary. If I were another GM, I still wouldn’t do it mind you, but I think that’s the point at which other GMs would at least return Hendry’s phone calls and see if they can get the price to drop even further.

Soriano’s 2010 performance will go a long way to determining if these musings stay musings or border on possibilities.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 3, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Why would anyone take five years of Soriano at $18 million per after the season he’s had, considering his age and considering his injuries?

If Jermaine Dye can’t get a 1-year deal from an AL team for what he considers market value (more than a few million), why would any AL team pay $90 million for Soriano.

by elgato on Apr 3, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

In addition to the comments listed above...

Sori has a full no-trade clause.

So you’d have to find a willing trade partner, eat a ton of money and/or take another (or multiple) worse contracts (if they exist), AND Sori has to say “yes”.

Roll it all together and you have a steaming pile of “highly, highly improbable”.

by fsuapollo on Apr 3, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I fear that within the next 2-3 years

we might be simply paying Sori to sit at home

by KButler on Apr 3, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's the new Ed Lynch?

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 3, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Slight correction, Al

I believe Ryan Roberts hit the game winning home run off Atkins, not LaRoche. Otherwise, good wrap as always. Colvin continues to look otherworldy.

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by daver on Apr 3, 2010 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

You're right.

Misread my messy scorecard.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Roberts?

We are trading for him and Lind?

I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
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by hansman1982 on Apr 3, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Airplane Hangar"

LOL. That’s what we call it every time we drive by. What with all the planes going by from Sky Harbor, I’m surprised some wayward pilot doesn’t mistake it for the airport. I’ll take a nice, cozy park every time, one without a pool in the outfield.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 3, 2010 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Several planes flew very low over the stadium last night.

It’s only about 3-4 miles from the airport.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baker in LF

He needs more work out there if they’re gonna use him in a real situation. With the catch he made on the sac fly, he wasn’t in position to make the catch with momentum, then made a bad throw to the dish, mostly because he had to reach up and back slightly to make the catch. I like players that offer flexibility, but only if they’re competent.

Scott Bora$ is satan.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 3, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm ...

I wonder if anyone has advocated for Baker to get more time in the OF …

by elgato on Apr 3, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watched the game on MLB TV

Had to listen to Grace, he still has a personal thing against the Cubs…like Fonty wearing his number, is he in the HOF? Anyway…nice interview with Brenely who holds that all the NLCS have weaknesses… Cubs of course is the bullpen with such youth.

They talked about Jamarillo and then Colvin, Grace really like Colvin and said anyone who is hitting .500 needs to make the team and play. Colvin then drives one to the CF wall for a triple—-where Grace noticed that Colvin is wearing #21, then later Colvin hit a double down the LF line to drive in a run where he eventually scored on Baker’s single.

Colvin dropped his bat on the ball really nice.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Apr 3, 2010 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Will Colvin start opening day?

I think he deserves it, in RF over Kouske. If not definitely the home opener. Worry he’ll cool off when bell rings, then get sent down….amazing streak of hitting the ball hard, consistently. Still wonder if he could handle 1B as backup, Lee does need some time off!!

I think we’re at least a year and a half from being able to move Sori, possibly, if he regains his stroke some team desperate for offense might take him if Cubs swallow hard. Otherwise he is gonna become the most expensive benchwarmer since Juan Pierre and Matthews Jr…even more expensive, the costliest ever, but playing time shouldn’t be determined by salary.

Both our corner OF’s are getting a nice push which they may or may not respond to.

by QuincyCub on Apr 3, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't really think there's much of a chance Colvin starts on Monday.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 3, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

No question Colvin brings more to the table than Fukudome (who could never hit MLB pitching) or Soriano (who could never field his position)

Hopefully it’s just a matter of time before Lou benches someone. I don’t understand why Fukudome isn’t in AAA at this point as he has shown a weaker bat than Matt Murton over his career. The numbers he put up in Japan should count for absolutely zero because what most people and the Cubs don’t understand is that is a different, narrower, “rule book” strike zone over there so the numbers do not translate at all. That being said, Soriano is a liability as well so take your pick.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Apr 3, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Fukudome would have to agree to be sent down.

And comparing Fukudome to Murton isn’t really fair, if for no other reason than Fukudome brings so much more to the table defensively. That’s not to say Kosuke hasn’t been a disappointment — though some posters will actually argue that point.

by elgato on Apr 3, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

"No question"??????

Really? Colvin is one big question mark, no one can be sure what if anything he brings to the table.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 3, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

People seem to be forgetting that these were SPRING TRAINING numbers. They don’t mean all that much.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Apr 3, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would have enjoyed those two innings.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just think it makes sense, Al.

Baker isn’t Mark DeRosa, but he’s the closest thing the Cubs have to him now. Might as well test his versatility, right?

by elgato on Apr 3, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

My point has always been...

…. why does the team necessarily NEED such a player? And to force someone into a role that he isn’t necessarily suited for could hurt him. DeRo took to that. We don’t know that Baker will.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

But isn't it better to find out if you have such a player, especially during ST?

At least now Lou (and Jim) have somewhat of an idea how good/bad of an outfielder Baker is. It just makes sense to have a comprehensive knowledge of all the tools at your disposal.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 3, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

That’s all I’m saying.

by elgato on Apr 3, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

My point was...

… I didn’t think that tool was in his arsenal, nor did the team need it to be.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano stealing bases?

Did you forget this?

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Apr 3, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may not like Soriano, but I do not want him to get hurt.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 3, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Apr 3, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's hope this was just a lame attempt at humor.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 3, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope this never happens.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 3, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nady made a throw

and the sun came up the next day as expected

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 3, 2010 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Shocking, isn't it?

Jessica will now comment.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be nice

After all, it’s not the throw that’s important, it’s the result of the throw, i.e. did a runner advance or score because of a weaker than usual throw. I think that’s the “salient point” of this issue, to borrow a phrase from another post. ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 3, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out if you really don't understand

that there COULD arise a problem from the fact that he can’t throw that well in a regular season game.

Are you really so set against Jessica having a point that you’re just ignoring any possible problems that might arise?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 3, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

not picking a fight are you?

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Apr 3, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Evidently, he is.

In this case, I am going to defer to the coaches and manager. If they thought there was going to be a problem, they’d have DL’d Nady.

They did not do so. I believe they know a little more about baseball than Jessica does.

Incidentally, she is a personal friend and has been so for over ten years. Most people here know that and that she and I can go back and forth pretty vehemently without damaging a friendship.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta rec this one, he he

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Apr 3, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to warm up the old 'picture in picture'...

There’s another game starting at 6:07pm edt that I have to see in addition to the Cubs game…

GO GREEN!

"Look, what do you want me to do?"

by Zeke on Apr 3, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Duke-West Virginia?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 3, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I have to draw you a picture...

Wait! I did!

"Look, what do you want me to do?"

by Zeke on Apr 3, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I didn't know that Duke or West Virginia had green uniforms.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 3, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then Butler has green!

P.S.: I just emailed Mrs. Zeke the story about what happened last week. I hope it’s not too late to send it to her.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 3, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

All these years I thought the mascot's name was Sparty

But your picture above clearly indicates in a most Rebus-nesque manner that I was mistaken. His name is actually “Party”!

No wonder you went to school there… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 3, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the drinking age WAS 18 back then and

possession of less than an ounce of a certain green leafy substance was a $5 civil fine (less than a parking ticket), so yeah, we did our fair share to keep the local watering holes in business…

"Look, what do you want me to do?"

by Zeke on Apr 3, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lettuce? Lol.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Apr 3, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al: Isn't about time to change the BCB Avatar?


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
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by eths on Apr 3, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean the logo?

Wait till Monday.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Starters...

Can we confirm whether they get their four innings in and are done for the day, or do they put in extra work after they leave the game to stretch themselves out? This would allow them to get more pitchers in-game work while it does little for MLB starters to be in there against MiLB hopefuls.

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by jameslcrockett on Apr 3, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Good question.

I do not know the answer. Wells threw 63 pitches today in five innings.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 3, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

That other team from the south side is beating up on the Braves -> 12:1 bottom of the 5th


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by eths on Apr 3, 2010 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Their's another team on the south side?

G’wan!

"Look, what do you want me to do?"

by Zeke on Apr 3, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

L&B are on the air

JUMP!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 3, 2010 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Z's messin' with Geo in the dugout :D

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 3, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Riot K

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 3, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Dome 4-3

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 3, 2010 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

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