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Five Questions With SBN's Braves Site Talking Chop

I've exchanged five questions about our respective teams with Martin Gandy, who runs the SB Nation Braves site Talking Chop, in advance of the season-opening series between the Cubs and Braves starting tomorrow.

The Braves have retooled and appear to be in strong position to contend this year, although they'll have a tough time in the NL East against the powerful Phillies.

Follow me past the jump for my questions and Martin's answers. My answers to his questions will appear on Talking Chop tomorrow morning.

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BCB: Jason Heyward. He's Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb and Willie Mays all rolled into one, right? Why will he succeed after playing only 50 games above A ball?

TC: Just about every scout who has seen him play says that he has the best approach to the plate they've ever seen in a 20-year old kid. His game starts with his patience at the plate. He takes walks like Alfonso Soriano strikes out. If Heyward sees a pitch that's not in his zone he (generally) won't swing at it. He's had this approach since high school. In fact, that's one of the big reasons he dropped to the Braves at the 14th pick in the 2007 draft. No other scouts really got a chance to see Heyward swing the bat his senior year of high school because all the opposing pitchers pitched around him, and Heyward let them; not willing to go outside of his zone and chase a pitcher's pitch.

Heyward is strong and athletic and still growing (which is a bit scary). He's got the five tools that teams crave, but most of all it will be that solid and patient approach at the plate which will allow him to make it through the growing pains of the his first Major League season.

BCB: The Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine era is now over. But the Braves appear to have put together a very strong starting staff. Tell us about the Braves pitchers who will face the Cubs this series.

TC: Derek Lowe should be familiar to most people. He's a sinkerballer, and you'll be able to tell when he's on his game because everyone is making outs on the ground. He's not mind-blowingly good, nor is he really an ace -- though he is paid like it -- but he'll put together solid starts most of the time. He seems to find a bit extra in big games, like last year when he shutout the Phillies on 2 hits on opening day (hopefully he can repeat that performance again this year).

Jair Jurrjens was never really supposed to be this good, if you ask the scouts, but he has turned into a solid number-2 starter. He's getting craftier, but he doesn't do anything terribly out of the ordinary -- he just does all the ordinary things really good. You might face our best pitcher in game-3. It will be a neat matchup of two of the top rookies on the mound from last season, as the Braves' Tommy Hanson faces the Cubs' Randy Wells. Hanson comes at you with a superior fastball from a 6'6" frame that has some late movement, and complements that with a killer curve and a knockout slider. He also has a changeup which he can get people out with. He's a pure strikeout pitcher in the mold of John Smoltz.

BCB: Is the Bobby Cox Farewell Tour going to have any effect, positive or negative?

TC: I've gotta think that the Braves players will want to give it that extra effort to send Cox back to the post-season for one more year. There may be more of a sense of urgency this year, not only because it's Bobby's last season, but because the Braves have assembled the best team they've had in years. There are a lot of expectation for the 2010 Atlanta squad.

BCB: Which Braves player or players are your biggest concerns this year?

TC: Until he's hitting .320 or above at the All-Star break I will be worrying about Chipper Jones and whether he can bounce back from his career-worst year last season. Troy Glaus is a bit of an unknown at first base, and we really need him to come through with power in the middle of the order. I guess I'm always concerned about every player to some degree, but for the most part there's no one on the team that I'm really "worried" about in any serious way. If I had to choose one it would be Melky Cabrera, especially if the team keeps him in the leadoff spot (for which I don't think he's suited).

BCB: Which Cub or Cubs do you fear facing the most?

TC: I always fear Carlos Zambrano a bit. He can be as good as anyone on the mound when he wants to. Aramis Ramirez and Derrek Lee have been a great middle of the order force for you guys, and that's a tough group for any pitcher to go through. I fear for the umpires the most, as they'll be hearing it from the word go from both dugouts, as Lou Piniella and Bobby Cox dish it out as good as any two managers in baseball.

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Great insight Al!

How often do you do the five questions?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

From time to time, when it seems useful/important.

This series seemed useful to have this, so I did one.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

My answers will be posted @ Talking Chop tomorrow morning.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

you will link us i assume

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 4, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I can.

I’m still on the road, leaving early tomorrow. I’m not sure what time he’s posting them. You can go to the Talking Chop front page, I assume, and find them.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody in CA just feel that earthquake???

Felt pretty strong here in Newport Beach!

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Apr 4, 2010 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

5 minutes ago

Its on CNN — 6.9 in Baha CA. IT FELT STRONG!!!

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Apr 4, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newport Beach

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Apr 4, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

off course, man, i'm blind.

i guess when you said that you felt it pretty strongly in Newport Beach, I should assumed that you lived there.

by braziliancubsfan on Apr 4, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baja California in northern Mexico according to CNN - A good friend is there right now


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze

by eths on Apr 4, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

my cousin in Mission Viejo just FB'd and said

they were rocking and rolling on their backyard concrete patio for a full minute

here in the Holy City, we had an earthquake two months ago .. just vibrated stuff

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Apr 4, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

We felt it in Chandler!

We were eating Easter dinner and the room kind of swayed back and forth, very slowly. My wife and I looked at each other and we thought it was the wine. When I turned the TV on this morning, sure as heck, it was a real earthquake. This was my first.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Apr 5, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't feel it???

Man, I don’t see how. We were up in Cerritos and we rocked and rolled for a good 45 seconds. Swaying chandeliers, stuff coming off the shelves, the works.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 4, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here!

Amazing — A quake stronger than Haiti’s and barely a screw came lose. Cheers to a functional infrastructure!

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Apr 4, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was in Whittier

Oh yeah we felt it. With the soil being all San Gabriel River silt, it felt like we were sliding all over. I took video of the pool sloshing over. I’ll post it soon – absolutely wild.

"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella

by PacificCub on Apr 5, 2010 2:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yay! Opening day! Nationally telivised to everyone! Absolutely everyone.........

that has cable. Guess I’ll be catching this game on my Walkman. Hate the Yankees, hope Boston wins tonight.

by braziliancubsfan on Apr 4, 2010 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Chipper's falling off

I know he’d like to play out his entire career as a Brave, but I get the feeling that if they’re not contending at the trade deadline, he’ll be on the trading block.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

There's no way he would be traded

That’d be like trading Cal Ripken or Derek Jeter.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 4, 2010 9:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's not as universally-loved as the Braves organization would like everyone to believe

Amongst Braves fans, his biggest popularity is still among the female fans. Most of the guys I know wouldn’t care either way if he split

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a braves fan...

Chipper Jones is without a doubt the most beloved Braves player of all time, with the possible exception of Dale Murphy. To say only women like him is crazy.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 4, 2010 10:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And I lived there until last year

For all of Chipper’s career, in fact. I’m also a Braves fan. Trust me on this one – there were years where the general fanbase in Atlanta would have rather seen Andruw as the Jones that stuck around.

And Dale Murphy? Are you seriously saying he was more beloved (then and now) than Hank Aaron?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh whoops

I always kind of think of Aaron as being a given. My bad. Then yes, he’s the most beloved Brave besides Hank Aaron.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."

by Scott Coleman on Apr 4, 2010 10:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hank Aaron would like to have a word with you.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It depends on the suitor

I don’t think he’d look at any NL team, but if they could find him an AL home who is in need of a DH/3B, he may be amenable.

One thing that is constantly overlooked about Chipper is that he is used to playing for winners. If the Braves don’t take off the way they’re expected to, a trade to a still-contending Rangers (for instance) may be doable.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd imagine

he plays out his contract in Atlanta (3 more years) or retires before then. If he gets to the end of his contract and cannot move at 3B, he might sign as a DH, but I bet he’d rather be fishing than play some where other than Atlanta. He’s already said he’d rather quit than be average, I don’t think he’d stick around to DH for an AL team.

Chipper has stuck with Atlanta for the past few years when they were out of the post-season. He is used to playing for winners, but those teams were all in (near) Georgia.

by someguy1 on Apr 5, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ladies and gentlemen,

Tonight’s game is a case in point for how bad MLB’s blackout “policy” is. It’s carried on ESPN2, but since I live in the home market area of the Red Sox, the game is blacked out on ESPN2 and broadcast in Vermont on NESN, the Red Sox’ TV network.

However, I don’t get NESN on my Satellite TV package, and the game is blacked out on ESPN2.

Al would probably ban me if I said the words I am thinking in my head.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

"Stupid, stupid MLB"?

Always worked for me, and I have yet to be banned.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's beyond ridiculous.

I go to ESPN2, and I see this message: “This program is not available for viewing in your area.”

Why let networks broadcast it if you won’t let people see it?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somehow this makes sense to Bud and his merry minions

You are supposed to drive to a sports bar and watch it there on cable.

by rlpete on Apr 4, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be honest,

I’ve never been one to spend much time in sports bars.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

as i have said many times

baseballis a game of outs

pop outs
ground outs
line outs
strike outs
black outs

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 4, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It really, really depends on the sports bar

I’ve spent a lot of time in a lot of different sports bars, and have found out that there are three different types:

  1. The dark, smoky local joint. This place has cheap drinks, food which ranges from barely-edible to completely delicious, and is full of two things: TVs and gamblers. The regulars clutch the page with the lines as if their children will starve without them (and they very well might). The staff is generally sports-savvy and they will be happy to yap about their favorites all night.
  2. The nation-wide chain. This is as corporate as they come. Big TVs, loud, and crowded with business travelers who go for comfortable surroundings no matter where they are. Drinks are expensive, and the food is decent for the price. The staff may not even know what the local team names are.
  3. The local chain. My favorite. The staff tends toward the more-knowledgeable side and management knows that they’re up against the big boys and try to compete as well as they can in terms of atmosphere, food quality, and amenities. The gamblers are still present, but are greatly outnumbered by families and regulars. Drinks are reasonably-priced and you can make great friends amongst the managers, regulars, and even owners.

Choose wisely.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know of one of those in town.

In the third category. I go there from time to time, actually.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really doubt its Bud and his minions

that making it all up on the fly. Its tv contracts, most that are pre-existing the year that define blackout policies is my guess.

by ol Pete on Apr 5, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

No offense intended...

But this is actually the only case where I actually understand MLB’s blackout policy and see it as a viable reason. You have the option to receive the broadcast of this game via the local broadcaster, it’s the people who live in an area where the game isn’t even broadcast locally, yet they’re considered in the team’s “market”. When these people are blacked out, I feel the system is truly not functioning properly and this is what needs to be addressed.

Unfortunately I don’t see this happening until an actual Commissioner can take over. I’m holding out we can get someone competent in after Used Volvo Bud retires, the last 17 years have been almost as painful as the Bush administration!

by aphoward13 on Apr 4, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

If I should be angry at Bad Selig and his minions of evil or Dish Network for not letting me see NESN.

This isn’t the first time this issue has come up.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Dish charge you extra for NESN?

Or they just don’t carry it? Either way, Dish is pretty bad….

by aphoward13 on Apr 4, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's part of the extra package.

Along with some other of my favorite channels.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

As Al has pointed out before

That argument is based on ad revenue; a local broadcaster can’t make any money on a nationally-televised game. Except if the national broadcaster inserts the local ads in their broadcast in their market. The technology exists, and all it would take is a new contract to bang out the terms.

In other words: Stupid, stupid MLB.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except as I've told Al before

that would work fine for cable, but the satellite companies couldn’t do it.

I never travel far without a little Big Star. R.I.P Alex

by Josh Timmers on Apr 5, 2010 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cable subscribers outnumber satellite subscribers by a little over 2-1

So it’s not a corner case. One could write a contract to reflect those numbers, (mostly) satisfy everyone, and let people watch baseball (and ads, of whatever stripe).

And because I’m a technologist at heart, I’ll point out that many, many people have built-in DVRs in their set-top boxes, no matter what their provider. DVRs are computers with hard drives. If a provider uploaded a batch of commercials to the DVR to be played during commercial breaks, they wouldn’t even have to worry about multiple commercial streams – just play the national commercials unless the customer has a batch of locals. Embed a signal telling the DVR that it’s commercial time, and let it play some of its cached stuff.

There are all sorts of answers to this issue, all of which allow people to watch baseball, a practice of which I approve.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 5, 2010 5:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why can't satellite companies do it?

You still have an addressable subscriber box, right?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 5, 2010 5:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two words

Bobby. Cox.

He’s always the Braves’ 10th man .. he has been a fixture in Atlanta for years and has always, always been able to squeeze whatever he could out of whatever he was given by the Braves owners. I have always been impressed by Cox’s ability to use his lineup and his proven ability, once he has the tools, to field teams that contend most legitimately.
The man deserves to be in the HOF first chance he’s eligible.

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Apr 4, 2010 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

^ This ^

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bobby is a terrific players' manager

And he’s a great judge of talent. Where he fails is as a game manager. Unlike Lou’s napping, Bobby is always watching the game, and is utterly prepared to make the exact wrong move at a critical juncture.

I’d love to know what the Braves’ record is in games in which Cox has been ejected. I’d bet that it’s significantly better than their record when he’s allowed to make boneheaded late-inning substitutions.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

*not allowed

Natch.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

to anyone who cares, it's 2-0 Yankees

and Curtis Granderson has made some nice catches and has also belted a homerun.

by braziliancubsfan on Apr 4, 2010 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I was considering it

But it’s an AL game, and I can’t imagine the membership of this blog necessarily wants either team to win it. Lose-lose, as far as I’m concerned.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Granderson is going to be a monster in a Yankee uniform

Brian Cashman made an outstanding addition in Granderson. He’s going to become a real star player in New York.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Apr 4, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

to bad the Cubs didn't trade for him

If they did, though, it might have cost the Cubs half of their farm system

by braziliancubsfan on Apr 4, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would have made a terrific story

Local boy returns to play. That, and Grandy’s an awesome player and a real class act. I would have loved to see him in Cubbie Blue, even if we had to give up a ton to make it so.

Oh well.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am actually glad we didnt get him

hes a good player but not for the ransom the Tigers were asking from us. He scares me in the field, gets bad reads on balls. Had one tonight that he froze and took a step in then had to retreat all the way back to the wall to make the catch

by bheidge on Apr 4, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

His reads are nowhere near as awful

As some I could mention, including a current Cub. His defense has been improving in the three seasons he’s had as a starter, and his other four tools are unquestionably top-notch.

Would I have wanted to sacrifice Cashner, Castro, and Colvin (The Killer C’s?) for him? Probably not, but I do admire him and his approach to the game.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're rating him a bit high

I don’t see defense as being the weakest of his “tools”, more like his eye at the plate. He’s only had 2 good seasons, the rest have been mediocre or worse. I don’t see how a trade for him would have required anything close to those 3 prospects, if you’re going to give up that much you can probably put together a package for Adrian Gonzalez (who would fit much more perfectly on the Cubs for next year!).

by aphoward13 on Apr 4, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

AGon might not make it that far

I see San Diego shopping him before the trade deadline, but then, I’ve said that for the last two years, as well.

As for Grandy’s plate approach, I’m looking at his BB/K numbers (here), and he’s right about league average for the three years he’s been a starter.

I’m not saying that we should have done anything to get him, but a speedy CF seemed like an awesome fit in the off-season. Thankfully, we got one of those, even if his last name isn’t Granderson.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we did that

There’s no way we’d be resigning DLee. He would have to be part of the deal somehow, even if it we had to make it a multi-team trade.

Difficult and expensive, but yeah – it’d be awesome if he were a Cub.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I’d love to see a multi-team deal that sends D-Lee out of town. I appreciate everything he’s done since we stole him from FL, but am scared that either 1) we’ll sign him to an extension and his production will decline fast at his age/injuries or 2) we let him walk at the end of the year with no viable replacement in sight.

by aphoward13 on Apr 5, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Braves are at a strange crossroads

On the one hand they are bursting with exceptional young talent….Heyward, Prado, Escobar, Hanson, Jurrgens. And they have an exceptional young veteran in McCann. But….they are going to be too reliant on Chipper Jones and Troy Glaus still having something left in the tank. I doubt Glaus can even stay healthy. And Nate McLouth is, in my estimation, horribly overrated. But then again they intend to bat him 8th.

I pick the Braves to win the NL East. But…

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Apr 4, 2010 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

C.C. Sabathia looks really good tonight.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Yankees 3, Red Sox 1

Brett Gardner just hit a two-run single.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Excuse me.

Two-out single.

Not only can I not watch, I also can’t type.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Using MLB Gameday.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

And now Jeter gets in on the RBI parade.

Beckett doesn’t look sharp tonight at all.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's been getting knocked around

The defense kept them in the game for a bit, but I don’t think Beckett’s gonna be pitching the 6th

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone besides me hating ESPN's new scorebox?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I just wish I could see it.

[bleeping] idiocy.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

YES.

Was wondering when someone was going to say that. It sucks. What was wrong with the old one?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually kind of like it.

It’s unobtrusive and gives all the needed info in a small space. Much better than Fox’s giant thing splattered across the top of the screen

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's too small.

I’m sitting only about 10 feet from a large HDTV and it’s really hard to read the balls and strikes.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm about the same distance from a mid-size HDTV

And watching in HD – looks perfect to me. For our members who are seeing double: Balls are recorded in green, strikes in yellow and outs in red.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'll get used to it.

Still, it seems like change for the sake of change.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really just happy that the ESPN branding is smaller

I already know what channel I’m watching, thanks.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah looks fine to me

just wonder why they don’t place it closer to the corner

by bheidge on Apr 4, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's going to take some getting used to

But it does seem to take up less of the screen.

I’m withholding judgement.

I never travel far without a little Big Star. R.I.P Alex

by Josh Timmers on Apr 5, 2010 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

And Brett Gardner steals home.

Yankees 5, Red Sox 1

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

On a double steal

Jeter broke for 2nd, and the catcher missed his throw badly. So badly that Pedroia had no chance to go back home with it.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

On-topic

I’m glad gondeee kept it clean – it can get rather profane over at TC.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Very Off-topic:

Donovan McNabb has been traded away from Philadelphia. However, he was NOT traded to Oakland.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Or to the Minnesota Favres

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Donovan will go to waste in WSH.

Santana Moss is the only weapon on offense the Redskins have, and even he is getting old. Clinton Portis can’t stay healthy, and Chris Cooley is not the TE he used to be.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

its sad he is a Skin

a waste as you say for him, and I agree.

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 4, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Washington was terrible last year.

The addition of McNabb takes Washington from a 4-12 team in ’09 to at best a 9-7 team in 2010.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

the Redskins would be OVERJOYED at 9-7.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 5, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Either way, I hope the Redskins beat the Eagles in both games when they face each other this season.

Eagles fans had absolutely no respect for this guy. Booed when he got drafted, whatever he did, he certainly didn’t deserve to get treated the way he got treated from Eagles fans. And he never complained, he never was a jerk about it, and the city of Philadelphia right now are rejoicing about this trade. I hope that the Eagles are the worst team in their conference this year, and for many years to come.

by braziliancubsfan on Apr 4, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

^ This ^

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Eagles were damn close to winning the Super Bowl in '05.

Donovan is a great QB, and I agree, just never got the respect he deserved. Not even from Rush Limbaugh LOL.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

many dont know this

but McNabb has the lowest int rate in NFL history (for QBs who qualify) which to me says something about how special he is

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 4, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's crazy.

Didn’t know that.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true,

But a large part of that is that he will usually throw at a receiver’s feet before he tries to force something. Not downplaying, just saying.

by CubFan90 on Apr 5, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

110% agreement

I wanted him as a Bear and still wish he was, but Cutler has the helm and I will support him

Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 4, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beckett looks rusty tonight.

Yankees are hitting the ball hard.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn

JD Drew just played Grandy’s liner bare-handed off the wall on one hop – beautifully-played. Curtis had to settle for a single on that one.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

It was Cano.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry - that was Cano who thought that was a homer off the bat

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beckett out.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Joe Morgan is so terrible.

When is ESPN going to wise up and take him off the air? I love Jon Miller and Orel, but can’t stand Joe.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

If Morgan would just shut up,

I could enjoy the 1st game of the season.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Apr 4, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tie game, NY 5 and Boston 5.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Couldn't help but notice...

…how much advertising the Red Sox have put all around Fenway — Especially the outfield. It seems like there’s more than in the past. I don’t think that Toyota sign will be all that bad.

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Apr 4, 2010 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

If Kenney and Ricketts are serious about following the "Red Sox Strategy"

That could be Wrigley in a few years.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doubt it.

Wrigley isn’t Fenway. Fenway has always had advertising — go find some photos of the Green Monster in the 1930’s and 1940’s.

Fenway has a jumbotron. Fenway had lights in the 1940’s.

Wrigley won’t become Fenway.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fenway Park in the 1940's.

This won’t happen to Wrigley.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I never saw Fenway Park looking like that. By the time I started seeing the Red Sox on NESN, the Green Monster was Green, no ads whatsoever.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like

booze, razor blades, soap and cigs.

by ol Pete on Apr 5, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not in every respect

But Ricketts especially seems interested in ways to drum up cash in “unconventional” ways. I think more stadium advertising is more a “will happen” than a “might happen”.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have NO problem with a few signs.

If the revenue from signs helps keep the payroll up, I’m all for em!

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Apr 4, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Getting excited for Opening Day

Just ran to the store and picked up some Old Style in anticipation. :D

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Wish I could go to my favorite sports bar tomorrow to watch Cubs/Braves.

I would do so if I didn’t have to work. However, I work 3-11:30 PM every weekday.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steven Tyler singing GBA at the 7th inning stretch

Very glad I know exactly where my Mute button is.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

For the first time,

I am happy I am not getting this game on TV.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Almost as cheesily awful

As Denis Leary “hosting” the Winter Classic at Fenway.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was that his daughter with him?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Apr 4, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care who it was.

She was smokin!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure it was

Chelsea, not Liv obviously.

Knew it was gonna be brutal as soon as the first word came out of his mouth!

by aphoward13 on Apr 4, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

One hell of a game this is!

Pedroia!

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Apr 4, 2010 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Was just going to say that.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

Good game to start the season. Pitching still looks like Spring Training pitching. But I’m not really sure why Chan Ho Park is still on a major league roster. He’s awful.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't you mean

“I’m not really sure why Chan Ho Park is not a Cub?”

Oh, wait…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't tell me there were people on here who wanted the Cubs to sign Chan Ho Park...

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’d be surprised.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

AL??????

You’ve got some explaining to do!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

One bad outing from Park and he’s “awful”? He was very good in reilef last year.

That said, in hindsight, I think the Cubs saved some money by not signing him. We’ll see how things wind up.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 4, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exonerated by my jury.

However, we shall see how things work out with him.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Park cannot pitch effectively at the major league level anymore.

Especially not in the American League, which is where he is. The Yankees only signed him because they’re the Yankees — they can have a poor signing and lose a few million dollars and no damage will be done.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can't?

Tell the 2009 Phillies that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 5, 2010 5:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yankee bullpen implosion in progress

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Apr 4, 2010 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

a thing of beauty

all you need are the simplest things in life ..

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Apr 4, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neil Diamond singing "Sweet Caroline" live

That’s worth it.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Better than Steven Tyler did

But he’s nowhere near the crooner he once was.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah Tyler was horrible

Diamond finished the song strong though, started it not so good

by bheidge on Apr 4, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

And had a great jacket, too

“Keep the Dodgers in Brooklyn!” across the back

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

What was the point of the jacket?

Did anyone tell him the Dodgers moved 52 years ago?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Apr 5, 2010 5:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Neil is from Brooklyn

And is obviously not a Yankee fan. A bit more red meat for the local fans, but one that requires a modicum of knowledge of baseball history.

FYI: Neil would have been around 16 years old when the Dodgers deserted NYC. I’m sure he remembers the event well.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 5, 2010 5:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

15 runs and 22 hits?

I really wish I could be seeing this, even though it’s the rivalry that is “a tabloid-filled soap opera about money and ego and sound bites.”

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 10:39 PM CDT reply actions  

And you'd have to listen to Joe Morgan

A pitcher’s duel, this is not.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

you and me both

but i’ll have to the game instead. Great game so far, by the way.

by braziliancubsfan on Apr 4, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

9-7 Sox.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

F

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pedroia knocks home Mike Cameron.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Challenging Nick Swisher's arm

Not a tough call there

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Swisher's arm is weak.

And Cameron can still run a little bit.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark

by NDCubbie on Apr 4, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that a "Yankees Suck" chant I hear in the background?

Classy.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 4, 2010 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

They're Red Sox fans.

Did you expect otherwise?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

good game

really shows you why walks are so important in the game of baseball. Good if you get them, bad when you give one up.

by braziliancubsfan on Apr 4, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

YIPEEE

Sorry Vermont, I am STILL a big Red Sox fan. It works better if you live in New York.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 4, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow that ESPN graphic is bizarre.

Al, you referred to this one earlier.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 4, 2010 11:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Tim Kurkjian

I’m surprised no one mentioned Kurkjian’s gaffe. He said that Dusty Baker is going to have a real hard time dealing with Tyler Colvin this season and finding playing time for him.

Yes, he was given a hard time on the air for saying it.

I never travel far without a little Big Star. R.I.P Alex

by Josh Timmers on Apr 5, 2010 2:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I like how Al handles the question about some former player.
Until [late June], this player is of no interest to me.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 5, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some of the folk over there seem a tad strange over there, if you ask me:
This guy wants to suck all the cubs dick can he not have an unbias some what partition reguards

by RWH2 on Apr 5, 2010 5:20 PM CEST reply actions 1 recs

http://www.talkingchop.com/2010/4/5/1405808/behind-enemy-lines-a-cubs-braves#33831819


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by eths on Apr 5, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

He made essentially that same comment twice.

Classy.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 5, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

didn't make any more sense

the second time. Al is the SBN Cubs blogger. Why would he be impartial?

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 5, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

They also make reference of FIP and xFIP?

Stats guys, what do those mean?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.

Go Pack!

by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 5, 2010 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

FIP
    Fielding Independent Pitching, a measure of all those things for which a pitcher is specifically responsible. The formula is (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)3-K2)/IP, plus a league-specific factor (usually around 3.2) to round out the number to an equivalent ERA number. FIP helps you understand how well a pitcher pitched, regardless of how well his fielders fielded. FIP was invented by Tangotiger.

xFIP
    Expected Fielding Independent Pitching. This is an experimental stat that adjusts FIP and “normalizes” the home run component. Research has shown that home runs allowed are pretty much a function of flyballs allowed and home park, so xFIP is based on the average number of home runs allowed per outfield fly. Theoretically, this should be a better predicter of a pitcher’s future ERA.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/statpages/glossary/

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 5, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

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