Getting to Know the Daytona Cubs
Today we head down to sunny Florida, which always strikes me as a little odd because the Daytona Cubs have more rainouts than any other team in the system. Last year was a disappointing one in Florida, but this year the Daytona Cubs look to put on some pretty good baseball in-between the raindrops. Some of the top hitting prospects in the system will be in Daytona Beach this season.
The Daytona Cubs are the the Cubs "High-A" team in the Florida State League, one step above the Peoria Chiefs and the Midwest League. Most of the players on the roster played for Peoria last season, although many of them were promoted to Daytona mid-season and are returning. The entire D-Cubs field staff returns from last season. Manager Buddy Bailey is back for his second season in Daytona and fifth year in the Cubs system. He's a minor league lifer, having spent 20 years in the Cubs, Red Sox and Braves organization. He'll be aided by hitting coach Richie Zisk, who's a bit of an institution in Daytona. Zisk has been either the manager or hitting coach for Daytona for 21 years now. If you're old enough, you probably remember the big year that Zisk had for the White Sox in 1977. The pitching coach is Tom Pratt, who is entering his fourth season in Daytona.
I think it's safe to say that of all the teams in the Cubs system, you're going to hear the most about the Daytona Cubs. One reason is that they've got some of the top hitting prospects in the system, including Josh Vitters, Brett Jackson, Kyler Burke and DJ LeMahieu. The other reason is one of the Cubs broadcasters has taken a special interest in one of their catchers for some reason. So expect to get a lot of D-Cub updates during Cub broadcasts this season.
To sum up the Daytona Cubs in one word, I'll choose "Powerful." Daytona and the FSL aren't the most-hitter friendly environments, but I expect to see some hard-hit balls leaving Jackie Robinson Ballpark in Daytona Beach this summer.
Roster after the break.
Even though there are other great prospects on the D-Cubs, I think it's safe to say that most eyes will be on third baseman Josh Vitters. Vitters has been hotly-debated around here even before he was taken with the #3 pick in the 2007 draft. Without a doubt, few prospects have a better ability to put his bat on the ball and hit it hard. In a half a season in Peoria, Vitters hit .316 and clubbed 15 home runs. He struggled in Daytona, so he'll have to show this season that was just a fluke. While he's an aggressive hitter, he's not a free swinger. He doesn't swing at pitches he can't hit often, but sometimes he swings at a "pitcher's strike" rather than waiting for a mistake that he can drive. One thing to watch this year is to see if he goes deeper in the count. The talent there is limitless. His game is a lot like the Giants' Pablo Sandoval minus about 100 pounds and Panda's totally-awesome kung fu ability. Sandoval didn't walk much in the minors either.
Joining Vitters in the infield is second baseman DJ LeMahieu, the Cubs second-round pick in last year's draft. LeMahieu should fit right in in the middle of the diamond at Wrigley because like Ryan Theriot and Mike Fontenot, LeMahieu was a member of an LSU team that won a College World Series. (Unlike Theriot and Fontenot, LeMahieu's not a native Cajun though. He's from Michigan.) He played 38 games for Peoria after signing last season and hit .316 with a .371 OBP. Although LeMahieu's a big guy at 6'4", he doesn't hit for a much power. He only had six extra base hits last season and no home runs. Maybe he'll grow into some power, but his game is always going to be getting on base more than power. Something to watch for is his defense at second. He's going to have to stick at second base because he's not likely to hit for enough power to play anywhere else.
Shortstop Junior Lake was someone who was mentioned in the same breath with Starlin Castro before last season. Let's just say their paths have diverged since then. While Castro became a blue-chop prospect, Lake struggled in Peoria. He hit .248 with seven home runs, which isn't that bad for a shortstop until you notice he struck out 138 times in 131 games and walked only 18 times. It's pretty clear what he needs to work on.
Does it surprise anyone that first baseman Ryne White was born in Chicago in 1986? However, the Cubs didn't draft the St. Rita High and Boilermaker alumnus--he came over from Arizona in the Aaron Heilman trade. He's a left-handed first baseman who has a little power and can draw a walk, which I know will make some people around here happy. He hit .266 with a .371 OBP last season in Visalia. He only had six home runs, but I'm betting he does better than that this season. He's not a great prospect, but he's a lot better than what you'd expect to get for Aaron Heilman. And I'm sure he's happy to be in the Cub organization.
Marwin Gonzalez and David Macias will serve as the utility infielders. Someone asked me last year if David Macias is related to Jose Macias. Except in the sense that we can all trace our ancestry back to a hominid in Africa who thought it would be cool to walk on two legs, he's not.
There's more great hitters in the Daytona outfield, led by last years first round draft pick, center fielder Brett Jackson. Already scouts are saying the Cubs got a steal by getting Jackson with the second-to-last pick int he first round. The strikeouts which scared so many people off in college haven't been a problem so far. Yes, he strikes out, but he also makes contact and draws walks. Last season Jackson hit .295 with a .383 OBP and 7 home runs in only 28 games in Peoria. Baseball America named him the #2 prospect in the system after Starlin Castro. Like Castro last year, a good season out of Jackson in Daytona could rocket him up to being one of the top 20 prospects in the game.
Right fielder Kyler Burke finally gets out of the Midwest League after three seasons there. Despite that, he's still a pretty good prospect and still reasonably young. Burke reminds me a lot of Paul O'Neill. I admit that the odds of him becoming that good are long, but he's got the same set of tools as O'Neill. It's possible he gets that good. But he's not going to be allowed to struggle in Daytona like he did in the Midwest League. He's going to have to produce this year to stay in the Cubs plans in 2011 and beyond.
Left field will be Nelson Perez, who reminds me so much of Nelson Cruz that I'm shocked that I never accidentally called him Nelson Cruz last season. Perez's problem is that while Cruz strikes out a lot, Perez strikes out a ton. Perez has got some power and he hit 11 home runs last season. But striking out 130 times and walking only 21 times isn't going to cut it.
The final outfielder is Smailey Borges. All I know about him is that he's 26 and has never played in the US minors before. I think he played for the Yankees Dominican League teams.
The catching duties are held down by Mark Reed and some nobody named Michael Brenly. All kidding aside on Bob's kid, he's been a pleasant surprise in the Cubs system. He's a good defensive backstop and he's held his own as a hitter. He's probably never going to be a star or even a starter in the majors, but he certainly could end up being a good backup catcher.
The pitching staff is full of guys who miss bats and miss the strike zone. The task for the staff is simple: throw strikes.
The ace on the staff is probably Christopher Archer, who the Cubs got last year in the Mark DeRosa trade. Archer's got good velocity, but his big pitch is a nasty curve ball. Last season he went 6-4 with a 2.81 ERA. He held opposing hitters to a .202 average. He struck out 119 batters in only 109 innings. That sounds so good I really hate to mention the 66 walks. But that was a big improvement over 2008, so he's moving in the right direction.
Right hander Rafael Dolis is back for a second season in Daytona. He went 3-9 last season with a 3.79 ERA. Like Archer, he walked way too many batters: 53 in 99 innings.
Walks weren't a problem with Dae-Eun Rhee, staying healthy was. He was unhittable in Peoria for the first half of 2008 before he underwent Tommy John surgery. He barely pitched last season, so it will be interesting to see how he bounces back from almost a year and a half away from the game.
Left-hander Brooks Raley is someone other people like a lot more than I do, but he is a good prospect. He's got good command of three pitches, but none of them are really spectacular. He was drafted in the sixth round last season out of Texas A&M and only threw 10.2 innings last year. He's skipping Peoria entirely and basically starting his pro career in Daytona. The Cubs gave him a huge above-slot bonus to get him to leave A&M, so clearly they're higher on him than I am.
Lefty Chris Rusin is someone I do like. Unlike the rest of the team, Rusin throws strikes. He was a fourth-round pick out of Kentucky last season and has got good movement on his fastball and a sinker that gets lots of groundballs.
Right-hander Aaron Shafer had been a top prospect in college before he got hurt his junior year. His stuff really has never completely bounced back, but if it ever does he could be someone to watch. At least he doesn't walk a lot of batters.
Australian Ryan Searle is also a candidate to start for the D-Cubs. He's back with Daytona for a second season after going 7-11 with a 4.42 ERA last year. He's got a good fastball, but he really pitches to contract.
I'm betting the closer for Daytona will be Chris Huseby. Huseby had been one of the Cub system's biggest disappointments before last season. He signed a seven-figure bonus in 2006 and then struggled with his control in the majors. It got so bad that the Cubs actually shut him down in 2008 to work on rebuilding his pitching motion. He came back last year as a reliever, and he thrived as Peoria's closer. He actually took a little off his fastball and gained a lot of control. Last year he struck out 73 and walked only ten in 54 innings. He had 18 saves.
Right-hander Mike Perconte is also in the pen. I have a soft spot for Perconte because I remember his dad, Jack, who was a second baseman for the Indians. Jack was also the butt of some stupid drunken jokes from my college days. (Don't ask.) Righty Alberto Cabrera played for Peoria last season. He also needs to walk fewer batters. Both lefties Luke Sommer and Chris Siegfried are back from last year's team. Both pitched well last year, but Sommer showed better control. Oswaldo Martinez is back this year after joining the D-Cubs from the Mexican league mid-season last year.
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I always wondered what happened to Richie Zisk
I remember the sign that used to hang at Comiskey
“Pitch At Risk To Richie Zisk”
Had a real snappy little alliteration there.
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I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
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It was good to see Burke on TV this Spring
He looks very large and strong. You could see why the Cubs liked his build and thought he could develop into an all-around player.
Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"
if Burke continues his play
from last year, he’ll really rise up prospect rankings. About the only flaw of his last year was that he didn’t show power against lefties. But heck, I could go through a number of lefthanded hitting OF’s that reached the majors and had some success while struggling for power against lefties (the aforementioned Paul O’Neill comes to mind, Brad Hawpe, and others).
Last year, Burke continued to be a strong defensive OF (arguably the best RF arm in the system, and hence why some folks pondered having him go back to pitching, which he did in HS). Last year, Burke showed power to go with patience, and he showed a much smoother, cleaner stroke. Like a guy like Brett Jackson, these two guys “look” the part. Burke’s got above average range for RF, and is a decent baserunner.
Problem is … it was just last year. The kid is awfully young, though, but a lot of folks want to see him succeed at a higher level since last year was the 3rd year where he spent some time in Low A. He was somewhat rushed by the Padres, but nonetheless, he’s been at the level before.
I don’t think this is make-or-break for him, as the OP makes it sound, because of age and the fact that the Cubs stuck with him last year in the OF (and they’ve stuck with less talented guys far longer before) but for him to emerge as a top prospect, he needs continued strong play.
quite good
Brett Jackson, Kyler Burke, and Josh Vitters were given looks with the AA squad this spring (amongst others). With the 3rd base issues at AA, a hot start could get Vitters there sooner than later (and all three are top prospects, with Vitters and Jackson (#3 and #2 for me) as potentially elite guys). Bunch of those arms could see AA depending on how they look.
Daytona is the place to be early in the year in the Cubs system, as it has the most amount of high level talent. Peoria is fascinating because of potential, Iowa holds a lot of “cup of tea”/stopgap options and a guy like Jay Jackson, and Tennessee has Castro to start, but Daytona’s got a lot of intriguing talent. A few guys that are hurt will likely go to Daytona when healthy (Justin Bristow/Rebel Ridling).
really should've mentioned Cashner and Carpenter as part of
Tennessee earlier. Just slipped my mind.
I will root for young Perconte, as well.
I took hitting lessons from his dad out in the suburbs back when I was in HS. I enjoyed my time at that hitting academy, so I’ll root for young Perconte.
Oh, and as usual, good write-up, Josh.
How do you feel about Dolis returning to Daytona?
Couple comments
Brooks Raley actually features about 5 pitches (strength is supposed to be the 2-seamer/slider/change, with a 4-seamer/curve mixed in). He was considered a possible first round pick before struggling late, which led to the Cubs nabbing him later, but as a sophomore, he had a lot of power, and the fact that the Cubs got him signed was a bit of a surprise to a lot of folks, myself included (the sophomore status is the bigger factor behind why he got the big bonus – he had a ton of power. Cubs had a decent amount of overslot pickups last year). What he is, as a pitcher now, is a solid deep arsenal guy with pitchability. The reason a lot of folks are intrigued is partly due to the dearth of lefty starters in our system, but more because, like the 2008 pitching draft, he falls into a similar mold of a former 2-way player with good athleticism. A lot of folks thought Raley could be drafted as a CF/leadoff guy with some gap power, and he has plus speed (reports have put it in the 70-80 range on the scouting scale). Many thought that the wear and tear of being a 2-way guy wore him down a bit. The belief/hope is that, as a full-time pitcher, his already decent command will get better, and that his fastball (4-seamer tops out in the low 90’s, 2-seamer runsin the upper 80’s/low 90’s range) will add a tic or two, and that his fairly solid command will get sharper. It is, in many ways, the same hopes that folks had with Jay Jackson. Will it pan out? Here’s hoping. The FB has pretty good movement to it, so any velocity and development makes him fairly intriguing. I do believe that, for the Cubs, having Raley work as a pitcher instead of a position player was the right move. This might be one of the more aggressive placements to start 2010 for the Cubs.
Chris Rusin is a similar pitcher, but his ceiling is a bit lower. That said, he’s more polished, so the floor is higher and he could move faster. He’s a finesse lefty that tops out in the upper 80’s more often than not, but can squeeze some extra juice to occasionally hit 90/91. As a senior, he didn’t have much power, so he signed early, but the Cubs expect him to move fast, because up until final cuts, he was with Tennessee. It’s a deep arsenal here as well, along with his command. There’s a 4-seamer, 2-seamer, cutter/slider, and a changeup. Nothing really stands out, but combine the arsenal with approach and command, and you could see an end of the rotation lefty type if all goes well, and those guys can stick around.
Considering size/build, along with how new he is to baseball, Ryan Searle was a pleasant surprise to me. He has an excellent sinker. Not on the Justin Berg level, but it’s good. He also improved on his secondary offerings last year, showing development with the breaking ball, which is primarily a curve, although he utilized a slider before. The changeup is coming along. The arsenal is still a work in progress, but considering his baseball experience and how he was pushed (skipped Peoria), I’m pleased. He actually finished relatively well last year after struggling a bit in May/June. Repeating Daytona isn’t a problem – gives him time to work on his pitches. He was with Tennessee for a bit this spring, so strong work in Daytona could get him up to AA.
Cubs had Rafael Dolis go to instructs, and that’s where he really took off. Most people believe his future is as a power pen arm, and at instructs, as AzPhil and other sources (I believe ESPN had a guy that saw Dolis’ outing as well), Dolis showed a upper 90’s fastball that hit triple digits at times, along with better command and consistency with his arsenal. It was suggested that he would be the top pick in the Rule 5 draft if eligible, but at the very least, someone would’ve nabbed him due to upside, so he got onto the 40. So, why is he in Daytona? It’s puzzled some of us, but the likely reason (unless the Cubs really view him as a starter) is the Jose Ceda plan (a guy he was oft compared to) – get him some work in the warmer climate on his entire arsenal, before pondering moving him up and accelerating the timetable.
Rhee got back in the game after TJ late last year and was sent to instructs to get more work, where AzPhil provided a lot of useful updates. The Cubs didn’t let him use his out-pitch (the split-change pitch that’s just nasty) but he was allowed to use his fastball/curveball. When on, Dae-Eun has 3 potential plus pitches, with an out-pitch, and a case could be made that, in terms of ceiling, he has the highest ceiling of any arm in the system (Cashner has a better fastball, but his overall arsenal doesn’t compare, unless he gets his circle-change to become that good). It’s possible the Cubs are really pleased with Rhee’s progress, and hence the A+ nod, but it’s also possible that they want to keep him in a warmer climate to start the year. One thing of note is that, Rhee doesn’t have an imposing body, so there was already some past concerns on whether or not his body can hold up as a starter. If he can simply stay healthy and show his stuff this year, I’ll be pleased. No need to rush a guy with this much upside.
I don’t know if Huseby took stuff off his fastball. The low 90’s velo reports were in line with what Huseby has had post-TJ. He has two good secondary pitches, a slider and another pitch that’s slipping my mind at the moment, a cutter I think. It’s possible it’s the same pitch, because IIRC, there were differing on which pitch was his better secondary option. After his horrible control issues in 2008 where he simply couldn’t throw a strike, the Cubs moved him to the pen. Here’s my issue -as a pen arm, for him to really excel, he needs a better fastball, while maintaining his command/consistency/mechanic. I’d really love to see him get tried as a starter again, but it seems more than likely that he will stay in the pen as the Cubs hope to get something from their over-slot investment. The frustrating thing last year was hearing that he had such serious arm issues (his fb was down in the mid-80’s to end last year) and the Cubs still had him pitch. Sure, the medical staff cleared him for 1 inning work, but still.
I’ll be the first to admit Alberto Cabrera wasn’t on my radar … until BA gave him the 31st overall ranking in the Cubs system. Granted, as I’ve always said, after the top level rankings, it’s basically a free-for-all in some respects (including my own rankings), but he was so far off my radar that 31st caught my eye. I know he’s always had a live arm, but the reports from instructs and this spring make it sound as if everything’s coming together, including his secondary pitches. He’ll be a fascinating guy to follow early.
I believe that Oswaldo Martinez was in the Mexican League because the Cubs placed him there. At least, I recall reading stuff about that. Perconte reminds me of Muschko a tad in that, they’ve got enough stuff. If he can tighten up his command, he’d have a much better shot. Luke Sommer is a converted OF who has shown enough to ponder as a guy who could make it up as a LOOGY. He was with AA briefly this spring, I believe. Excellent control, I want to say it’s a sinker/curve guy, and both pitches are supposed to be decent-solid. I’m honestly blanking on more information on all three at the moment.
Aaron Shafer did close 2009 relatively better, so here’s hoping he found something. Any velo improvement improves his chances, as he’s got “pitchability”. I’m not banking on it, though. Chris Siegfried was our 11th round pick a few years back. Spent early last season revamping his mechanics. Has a good fastball/curveball combination. Not sure how much to read into this Peoria numbers last year, as he was working with adjusted mechanics.
Couple quick comments on pitching – there should be some piggybacking involved. Also, system has a fair amount of possible lefty pen options, as you’ll see with the rosters. Seems like one of my favorites entering 2009 has been cut (unless an injury happened and I missed it, or unless he got sent to XST for work). Dan McDaniel had good stuff in Boise as the closer, and got off to a decent start last year after skipping Peoria. In Boise, his stuff was good, low-mid 90’s fb (4 and 2 seamer), 2 breaking balls that were solid, and a solid change, The stuff didn’t carry. I always wondered if the injury was a factor, but I am glad that the Cubs at least tried him as a starter.
Nothing much to add on the positional front. The top prospect for me is Brett Jackson. Took me a long time this offseason to come around on Brett. I was initially aghast at Jim Callis ranking him 2nd in the Cubs system, and stunned others would follow suit. Why did I change? Here’s a five tool CF who got off to a great start. Josh Vitters may have better raw power, but Brett Jackson’s baseball power is supposed to be close. Are there concerns with the strikeouts? Sure, but for now, I’m willing to wait and see. There were positive reports on his understanding of the strike zone, his ability to play situational baseball. I don’t recall bad reports from his college wood bat summer days (Northwoods and Cape) and the K issues weren’t there his sophomore year. There was some spec that he was trying to be aggressive for scouts in his draft year, and it’s possible that this was a guy that was growing into his power (his power only came last year) and having to adjust. If he has K issues this year, then yes, the concern is greater, but all the tools are there and there are enough positive scouting reports on his potential that I’m excited.
This isn’t meant as a knock on Vitters. Somehow, I’ve been tagged as a Vitters-hater this offseason by some. He’s got great natural ability, and one of the most beautiful swings you’ll ever see. Watching his bat come through the zone is a thing of beauty in regards to swings. The scary thing is that he doesn’t go up there hitting for power – and yet he generates power. He’s still an excellent prospect who has improved defensively. 3.2/3.3 pitches per at bat, though, can’t be overlooked. I don’t need to see more walks from Vitters, but rather just more pitches that he sees (hopefully that leads to more walks, but my point is, it isn’t the walks that’s bothering me, it’s the number of pitches). Any improvement there (if he can get to Pablo Sandoval levels last year (3.44 in the bigs), his chances go up astronomically, IMO.
DJ should see some time at short, I think, considering Junior Lake isn’t a lock to stick at short either. Lake has the potential to be good, but is inconsistent. DJ, at short, is consistent, but a bit limited in regards to how good he can be defensively. The Cubs worked him at 2nd base quite a bit this winter, trying to get his footwork down, considering he played 2nd last year and was solid. There’s some hope that he can improve his power, but I have my doubts on that front. He’s so good with his approach. Somewhat akin to the Murton situation (you expect more power when you see body) … but unlike Murton, DJ is in the middle infield, so there should be no pressure. I was a bit surprised when we picked him, as he was supposed to be a tough sign, so the one thing that DJ does show is that the Hendry/Maineri relationship could help us with some LSU kids.
I think Rebel will man first at Daytona at some point this year, and Ryne really needs to perform. As numerous places have noted, he’s an odd case of a guy with some raw power that just hasn’t played. David Macias looks to be headed down the road of versatile utility guy in the system who will be moved where needed. Marwin Gonzalez shouldn’t be overlooked just yet. He’s got boatloads of “tools”, but hasn’t put it together. Cubs gave him plenty of AB’s last year, though, but he is only 21. I’ve discussed Burke above. Nelson Perez is another fascinating guy in terms of raw ability. If Burke’s arm is better, it isn’t by much, and Perez has power potential. That said, like Lake, huge discipline issues. Smaily Borges played for Cubs DSL2 last year. I’ve heard some positive things, some power potential, decent approach, decent tools … but considering age (26) and considering the options at Daytona (he won’t take time from Brett or Kyler if both are healthy), he needs to start hot. He was with Iowa briefly, before the cuts started, and moved down. At least, unlike Jason James, he stuck around, so there’s a chance.
As noted, I think Justin Bristow (one of my “breakthrough” guy possibilities this year) and Rebel Ridling will likely end up at Daytona when they are healthy.
"Couple comments" - yeah, right!
Just kidding – thanks for the analysis.
And thanks to Josh for doing these posts.
Ranking the prospects
Someone posted this question on another site, and I found it intriguing enough. Posting my rough rankings for Daytona with comments.
Daytona – Jackson and Vitters are in a tier to themselves. I’d be okay with ranking my 5-7 in any order but LeMahieu seems to have enough ceiling and seems safer than the two arms. I’m open to ranking 8-10 in any order either. The issue with Alberto Cabrera is that I simply don’t know enough. The little I know makes it seem like he could be higher, so I admit, that’s a flaw in my rankings.
1. Brett Jackson – 5-tool CF, strikeouts are an issue. He’ll never have great discipline, but can he find a balance?
2. Josh Vitters – I don’t NEED to see more walks. Just take a few more pitches. If he does, his chances improve dramatically.
3. Kyler Burke – Some folks are making it out to be a make-or-break year, which somewhat puzzles me. That said, a big year and he’ll move up prospect rankings fast.
4. Dae-Eun Rhee – Ceiling is so high. Can he stick as a starter?
5. DJ Lemahieu – somewhat akin to the Matt Murton situation, but he’s in the middle infield, so there should be minimal pressure to add power.
6. Brooks Raley – Ceiling seems higher than Rusin’s, but that’s assuming he adds velo and improves overall now that he is a FT pitcher.
7. Rafael Dolis – Pondered as high as 5 … but I think his future is in the pen and that impacted my placement.
8. Chris Rusin – Seems nice and safe as a possible end of the rotation lefty.
9. Chris Archer – Can he improve his command and stick in the rotation?
10. Ryan Searle – Can he improve his secondary offerings and take the next step?
11. Alberto Cabrera – Well … I’m paying attention now.
Chris Huseby would’ve taken 12th for me, but I still don’t love the arsenal in the pen. Sommer’s a lefty that I think could move fast. Brenly has status in the system, not because of Bob, but because our catching depth charts are relatively weak. Marwin/Junior/Nelson are all toolsy guys that could emerge, but hard for me to rank them high with their glaring issues.
thanks Josh
Daytona looks to be solid club. I am looking forward to updates on Rhee throughouth the season.
Josh, thanks again for the great series.
I look forward to your game summaries also. I greatly enjoy those summaries, they are the first things I read in the summer mornings!
Thanks Josh!
I enjoy your write ups, especially when major league version has a not so stellar day
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