Still Looking For A Win: Cubs vs. Braves Preview, Thursday 4/8, 6:10 CT
by Al Yellon on Apr 8, 2010 4:00 PM CDT
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If you're worried about the bullpen -- and there's definitely some cause for concern -- the Cubs share your concern. They're going to be keeping their eyes on John Gaub and Jeff Gray, in particular, at Iowa, to see if they can help the big club.
Speaking of Iowa, last night they were supposed to play the University of Iowa Hawkeyes in an exhibition game, but it was rained out. They'll open their season tonight in chilly but clear conditions against Nashville. If anyone's at that game (I think at least one person posted they would be), please post about your experience, with photos if you have any (I know many of us would like to see pics of Ryne Sandberg's Iowa managerial debut).
Finally, an important announcement -- as of this afternoon, all the SBN baseball blogs, including BCB, are in partnership with FanGraphs, a site I know many of you check out often for statistical content. There will be FanGraphs headlines on our right sidebar, and BCB stories related to player and Cubs team pages will appear on FanGraphs. Thanks to our tech and product teams for this partnership.
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Stats are 2009 season numbers
Tommy Hanson, who finished three spots ahead of Randy Wells in ROY voting, has never faced the Cubs. The only current Cub who has faced him is Chad Tracy (1-for-3).
Randy Wells had one of his best early starts vs. the Braves last year on June 2 at the Ted, when he gave up two runs (one earned) in seven innings, during that stretch when he couldn't buy a win. On July 6 at Wrigley Field, he threw well again and this time beat Atlanta. The only current Brave who has homered off Wells is Nate McLouth, who did it in that July game.
Today's game is on cable: Peachtree TV in Atlanta, and CSN in Chicago (this time, the main CSN channel). It's also being picked up by MLB Network for national coverage. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Tonight's overflow threads will post at 7:15, 8:15 and 9 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Caption: "But I was promised pasta. There is no pasta here!"
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
For the record...
If the Cubs lose tonight, Al, you are not allowed to say “It is only the third game of the season.”
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
"It's only the first series of the season" ?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
aha
Four teams have been swept their first series and went on to win the world series.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineup: Colvin, Baker, Hill are in
Posted this in the earlier thread too, but for those who haven’t seen it yet…
Theriot SS
Fukudome RF
Lee 1B
Ramirez 3B
Byrd CF
Colvin LF
Baker 2B
Hill C
Wells P
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
Hooray for Colvin in LF!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
It'll be fun (I hope) to see how he does
"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou
Can he hop like Soriano? If not, what is so fun about that?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I'm pleased
to see Baker in the lineup. And let’s see what Colvin can REALLY do…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
do you know the muffin man
the muffin man the muffin man…
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
by jesus christos on Apr 8, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Hill gets the start....
Cooliogirl47 approves this lineup, he he
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
i like everything about this
except for theriot, but i guess you can’t have everything.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Would you rather have Fonty at SS?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Troubling enough....that's actually tempting.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm sorta at the ABCASS
point.
(Anyone but a cajun as SS)
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
I do too. Well stated, Allie.
"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou
So
Ronnie Cedeno fits well?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
at least he had an arm
instead of a double clutching noodle.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
haha
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets get a win!
Can’t teach my daughter “Go, Cubs, Go” after a loss!
"I'll tell you what's helped me my entire life. I look at baseball as a game. It's something where people can go out, enjoy and have fun. Nothing more." - Harry Caray
Let's win one tonight.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
DOOM
Just kidding. Today will be the first win.
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
COLVIN
I’m very pleased with Lou for putting Tyler Colvin in the lineup tonight! Why not? Nobody else can hit ball. Good Luck Tyler! Knock it out of the park!
Sori was 2 for 4 yesterday
So why would Lou take him out when others on the team didn’t do as well I wonder?
For the record though, I can’t wait to see how Colvin does too after that killer spring he had.
GO CUBS!
one of Soriano's hits ...
was a mistake-swing double, FTR.
Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I said.
If we’re talking about how well he’s swinging the bat, the double isn’t that significant.
And THAT’s what I was saying.
just like all the hard hit balls
that don’t have eyes don’t count. That stuff averages out.
by LT on Apr 8, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Good God.
I’m doing my best to avoid name-calling here. YOU questioned why Soriano would be taken out of the lineup after his 2-for-4 performance. I responded by pointing out that one of his hits was an excuse-me swing that doesn’t (to me) signal that he should stay in the lineup over other players.
And, yes. Over the course of the season these things even out. But regarding TONIGHT’S FREAKING LINEUP I understand why one single and one bloop double didn’t influence Lou’s decision.
We good here?
why would you need to call names?
Are you aggravated because someone doesn’t agree with you? At this point in time I have more faith in Sori than Colvin based on a large amount of stats. I don’t have a problem with Colvin starting tonight, but I don’t understand all the agnst against Soriano. If he was paid $1M per year he would be liked better and that makes no sense.
by LT on Apr 8, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you had a great point on the hard-hit balls
I also agree that I don’t have a problem with it tonight. But what gets ME frustrated, is when everybody picks on him for the wrong reasons. Is it HIS fault he’s being paid 18 million a year?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
partly.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
no, it's not
you wouldn’t turn that money down.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course not.
But you do so KNOWING you’ll be booed if you struggle.
yes
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't turn down the money....
and I would accept that I’M PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW MUCH $ MY CONTRACT IS PAYING ME.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
sigh.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
why is personal responsibility such a taboo subject for you Drew?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
why do you think
that for some reason, Soriano is responsible for his agent getting the best deal he can get his client?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Nobody is saying Soriano is 100%, or 50% or 7.24% at fault for the size of his contract...but you know what, forget it Drew.
You will continue to mystify me when it comes to things like this.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
pardon me, Mr. Sigh, but did Soriano sign that contract?
If he did, then I’m pretty sure that makes him partly responsible for getting paid $18M a year.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
The point is
If you were offered it, would you say “No, I don’t think I’m worth that.” Put yourself in his shoes.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That doesn't negate the fact that making the decision to say 'yes' was his, and his alone.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
No argument on that point - I think most everyone agrees with that
But that’s not the point I think SWL was making. And I was supporting the accuracy of SWL’s statement – Soriano (and really any player) is partly responsible for what they’re getting paid because they agreed to be paid that much when they signed the contract.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I see your point
But I don’t see how you could hate a player for that specific reason.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone is saying they hate him becuse of that specific reason...
I’m not, ballhawk hasn’t….
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
My bad
That was what I typed.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just answering your original question...
“Is it HIS fault he’s being paid 18 million a year?”
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
And I admitted I was wrong.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
me either.
where do you see that I’m hating on a player for that reason?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
methinks it's Miscommunication Day at BCB
"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou
+1
My fault on this one.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
So now it's up to you to explain this concept to Drew.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't put that kinda pressure on ME!
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?
Ledge-jumper!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
hahaha
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
it sure seems that way
Maybe everyone is just antsy for a win.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
Who is this Miss Communication you speak of...
…and do she have a sister?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Is her sister a lefty?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
she’s an +englishlady
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
But is she in possession
Of an egg yolk?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Here she is...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Ohh
Do you happen to have her number?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
not even close
"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou
I'm annoyed...
because I can’t make a LEGITIMATE statement about Soriano — note that I didn’t say trade him, bench him or anything of the sort — without being labeled a Soriano hater.
You inferred that I meant that Soriano sucks. That, sir, is so far from what I said. And see what I posted below about starting tonight and getting Colvin in. It’s almost EXACTLY what you said.
Quit hating on Soriano.
I kid.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
a hit is a hit is a hit
and actually, I was pleased with that one because he turned that into a double. He’s reporting he feels no pain in his knees, either.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
well, a hit is a hit for the sake of batting average ...
but it doesn’t say as much about how he’s swinging the bat. I think you knew what I was driving at, Drew.
sure, it was a bloop hit that he didn’t mean to make. So what? It’s better to be lucky than good, right?
And again — the fact that he ran, without pain, to second base may be a huge step for him.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree on the second point.
It just doesn’t mean that he’s found his swing.
The only one........
Who’s used the words he’s “found his swing”, etc, is you. Nobody’s praising him, nobody’s claiming he’ll win a batting title. The original poster questioned why he was taken out after a 2-4 night, which is a legit question. You’re the one who has falsely claimed that Soriano is being lauded for his efforts. Read through the posts.
Fine, "found his swing" was my term.
But Soriano could have just as easily been 1-for-4 last night, which would make sitting him a lot easier to justify.
As for no praise, this is from wriglerrocker:
“I put my full trust into him, and there is NOBODY on this Cubs team that I’d rather see manning left field right now.”
nice cherry picking
this conversation started well before that, and you used those words well before his post
That's a fair point.
But I notice you didn’t address MY fair point.
i don't disagree that Sori...
Could’ve been 1-4 and therefore it would be easier to justify. I dont’ think the decision needs to be justified. I’m looking forward to Colvin and it’s not like Sori is setting the world on fire.
And ALL people are saying....
is that there’s better ways to say it to make your point clear and not SOUND (not necessarily be) so negative about Soriano.
Wow.
Yeah, cuz this is brutal:
“one of Soriano’s hits … was a mistake-swing double, FTR.”
Ouch!
Fair point.
I mis-spoke. Why even point that out? Who cares?
Seriously……why point it out? Does it matter if it was a mistake swing double? All the OP said was “So why would Lou take him out when others on the team didn’t do as well I wonder?”
Ok
It seems all of this has been a series of mis-understandings, misreads, whatever you want to call it. Either way, the point is this. Elgato was NOT saying Soriano sucks, he was just pointing out a fact. Let’s all quit are arguing and forget about it. It’s getting old by now.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
If you think I was yelling at you
I wasn’t. I’m actually the main culprit here.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No offense taken....
Just trying to lighten the mood a bit.
FTR
i didn’t think elgato was being nearly as shitty about it as everyone else was.
In fact, as someone who didn’t get to actually WATCH yesterday’s game I appreciated the description of his double.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
So I'm praising him by saying that I'd rather start him
Over a rookie with 21 career at bats?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
The next step will be for him to run, all the time, when playing left field.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
what
even when the ball isn’t hit to him? He’s gonna be awful tired…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
because backing up on plays requires effort and junk...
you know exactly what I’m talking about.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
lulz
Soriano is one of the hardest working players on the team. I’m constantly amused that people somehow don’t see that.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
If he got better reads on batted balls or took better routes to them
He might not have to work so hard
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
He could work harder on...
strike zone recognition
situational hitting
going back on fly balls
communication in the outfield
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
that pretty much nails it
Sori lacks conviction on defense
"I mean, if we can’t take Colvin after the spring he’s had, something is wrong," -- Lou
but that's not his FAULT.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
SORIANO IS ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING PLAYERS ON THE TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I said hustling the hardest.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
A hit is not a hit, is not a hit
when trying to determine whether someone is actually improving, and swinging the bat well.
Yes he had two hits, one was a mistake.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 8, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's such a thin margin
in terms of actual numbers of hits between a good hitter and a struggling one that often times those sort of “lucky” hits can make a huge difference in how we view hitters.
He still doesn’t look comfortable, which is worrisome. But getting on base at all is a good step.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Apr 8, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
From my point of view, he’s hustled more than anybody else on this team. His ground ball that he beat out on the double play gave the Cubs 2 runs.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll give him credit for hustling.
I’ve never said Soriano is a bad guy who doesn’t hustle. But if we’re trying to judge HOW WELL HE’S HITTING, a mistake-swing double doesn’t say much.
And if Derek Lee hit that ball
You would be praising him for his ability to hit it where they players aren’t. Give Sori a break.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't put words in my mouth.
I’m not a Lee defender or a Soriano hater.
I'm sorry if that seemed as I was
It just seems as if, to everyone else around here, Soriano can do no good. It frustrates the hell outta me.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
well, look ...
Soriano had a miserable season in 2009, he’s one of the most frustrating players in baseball (and frankly, the Cubs have a couple more I’d put in that camp), and his enormous contract makes him a magnetfor criticism.
Soriano CAN do good, and did a lot of it in 2007 and 2008. He just hasn’t done much since May 2009 — and a check-swing double hardly calls for praise.
Look here...
This guy carried us to the playoffs two years in a row. Not to mention, the hustle he’s putting in even though he’s been struggling, means the world to me. This guy WANTS to play, he WANTS to be “the man,” but his problem is, sometimes he isn’t “the man.” So? He played hurt all of last year, and still managed to hit 20 homers. I put my full trust into him, and there is NOBODY on this Cubs team that I’d rather see manning left field right now.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lou obviously disagrees with you.
… when it comes to who’s the best choice in left field right now. Note that I didn’t advocate benching Soriano permanently.
I understand Lou’s thought process. Kosuke had a good Opening Day and Byrd has hit the ball harder than any Cub. To mix up the lineup -and Lou said he wants to get Colvin two or three starts a week - you have to sit someone. And frankly, right now, it makes as much or more sense to sit Soriano
Do you disagree with that?
I agree with that.
My comment below notwithstanding, in the tradeoff between those three Sori probably does make the most sense.
My preference would’ve just been to hold off on Colvin until Sori gets comfortable at the plate. But obviously Lou was aiming to get him in.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Apr 8, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
As I said above
I don’t mind Colvin getting the start today, but when people like you, who seemingly are trying to find more and more reasons to bench him, are saying stuff like you did, it just ticks me off.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell are you talking about?
I didn’t say a thing about benching him. This is why I’m annoyed.
You are looking for reasons to hate him
one of sorianos hits was a mistake swing double
Seriously? Nobody else on this team would have hustled to make it into a double. Give credit where credit is due.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
No -- I'm NOT!
I just don’t think a bloop double is reason NOT to start Tyler Colvin for one game.
fine
But as said, it sure made you sound like it.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
By saying one of his hits was a bloop double?
Talk about overreacting, dude.
Well, I wasn't the only one.
Besides, you were trying to call people names for proving a fair and reasonable point.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
actually, I said I was doing my best NOT to call people names.
And the point was not proven, dude.
You dumbasses need to stop.
/sarcasm
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
The hard hit balls that aren't hit
Cancel out the one he hit yesterday.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
and I have to go to dinner ...
I’m sorry we disagree here. You’re a Cubs fan, so am I. But don’t assume that one comment that is slightly negative means that I think Soriano should be cut.
Fair enough
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
That was all he said.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why BCB is a lot less fun lately.
Any valid comment that’s slightly negative about the Cubs is construed as a BLou-style attack. Three days ago, I was arguing that Al Yellon (of all people) was being too pessimistic about this season.
by elgato on Apr 8, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are so right.
It sometimes seems some people need to place every little comment into one extreme side or the other.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
I said one of Soriano's hits was a mistake-swing double ...
and everybody jumps on me like I said he’s not good anymore because he’s off steroids, or something.
And no, I’m NOT saying that.
To me it looked like many were putting words in you mouth.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
Fine.
But when you say “one of Soriano’s hits … was a mistake-swing double, FTR.” it makes it sound like you are the latter…FTR.
You can understand why people are coming to Sori’s defense, right?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Apr 8, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
thank you
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Pointing out the obvious makes me sound like a hater?
I think praising him for something that isn’t praise-worthy makes FAR less sense.
So............
At the end of the year, does MLB count all the check swing hits and deduct them from a player’s batting average? Just sayin’.
see my post above:
I was commenting as to why a bloop double shouldn’t affect Lou’s decision-making process.
No it doesn't.
And that’s my point. I know how things on a blog can be read incorrectly. So I think you should be able to remove yourself from the situation to see how that might have been read differently. That’s all.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
The OFs
have been hitting, on a relative basis. It’s the IFs that haven’t. Colvin doesn’t play IF, unfortunately.
Right.
So you have to sitan outfielder, and the bloop double isn’t reason NOT to sit him tonight.
'Being Bloop Double'
Bloop Double takes the slide into his own head, and everyone looks like Bloop Double and has conversations consisting of nothing but “Bloop Double.” “Bloop Double Bloop Double. Bloop Double.”
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Will Derrek Lee get his first hit of the season tonight?
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Who gets a hit first...
Lee
Theriot
Colvin
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
no
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
you know you want to
have him riding an orca or something.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
no
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
spoilsport.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 8, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, here's my idea for a Colvin pic:
Get a still frame from “Clash of the Titans” with a picture of the Kraken. Superimpose Colvin’s face onto the Kraken and make the caption, “RELEASE THE COLVIN!”
you are
the Concept Guy, not the Artistic Talent?
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
Koye Hill
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 8, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm kinda amazed that Hill's in the lineup.
Could Soto be hurt?
no i think they just want
Hill’s win karma on the field today
by cubsonWGN4ever on Apr 8, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I know you're kinda kidding ...
but it’s pretty bad if we’re counting on Koyie Hill magic in the third game of the season.
Go Tyler!!
Glad to see him in there gotta play him every third day at least or else makes no sense to have him on ML roster.
Too bad for Sori who looked good yesterday, some long AB’s and got a hit off the tough Wagner in 9th. Boy was he nasty otherwise; Nady and Soto were frozen, no chance.
Just saw that Dan McDaniel was released...
…among a few others. I expected him to be a decent prospect in our organization and instead, he’s just another guy with a great name we’ve gotten rid of.
A bit surprised
Our systemic pitching is raising the bar.
Where'd you get that?
I’m banking on AzPhil for system updates, and he’s been silent for awhile.
Iowa
I’ll be there tonight. Will get as many pics as I can on my Iphone. Seats are on 1st base side 2nd row.
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Apr 8, 2010 4:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Go to the High Life Lounge afterwards.
That’s your best chance and tipping a few with the players.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Say Hi to Sam
Tell him to always keep a bag packed.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 8, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Channel 13 is there
and just did an interview with Hoffpauir. I was hoping they would have interviewed Ryne. The stadium looks good though.
As worried as some (myself included) are about our bullpen
at least we aren’t the Kansas City Royals.
They’ve had a lead going into the seventh in every game this season, and they’ve blown the lead EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.
They managed to win in extras yesterday so that salvaged something, but they gave up six runs in the 8th and 9th today to lose again.
The starter leaves, that team goes in the tank.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
Which is amazing too...
Given that they have an excellent closer in Soria.
Poor KC fans…
by CubsWin!Oregon on Apr 8, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
on the other side of it.
Kansas City actually has a win this season. And their ace actually pitched like an ace
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
Our Ace pitched pretty well last night...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Apr 8, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I would've preferred to leave Sori in today...
especially given that he had a fine day at the plate yesterday. It’s more important that we get Sori comfortable at the plate and producing at a high level than it is to get Colvin playing time for unknown (but probably rookie-level/middling-to-ok production).
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m guessing that projections would suggest that if Sori is good, the Cubs are competing for the division. If Colvin is good, the Cubs are maybe competing for the Wild-Card.
I’m excited for Colvin to develop. But right now Sori getting comfortable is more important. (I’m assuming that Sori wasn’t needing rest already. But if he was, then we have bigger problems.)
I think Wells takes over the
Cubs player picture who most looks like a European artist.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
I just noticed today that Sean Marshall has 7 strikeouts in 3.2 innings.
Good for top 10 in the majors as only a reliever. I still think he should start, but then our bullpen would be even worse.
I would also have loved to see Blanco today instread of baker.
Start instead of...
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he would be a top 3 starter on many MLB teams, but certainly ahead of Silva and Gorz on ours..
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 8, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I suppose I see you
But what a lot of people seem to look over is that his ERA as a reliever is much better than as a starter. Besides, as you said, that greatly weakens the pen.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 8, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaand the Braves lineup for you fine ladies and gentlemen:
Cabrera – LF
Prado – 2B
Chipper – 3B
McCann – C
Glaus – 1B
Escobar – SS
Heyward – RF
McLouth – CF
Hanson – P
Looking forward to seeing Colvin and Wells play tonight.
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
Good luck after
One of the few teams I respect.
2010 is OUR year.
thanks!
"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when."
by Scott Coleman on Apr 8, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Ump Joe West
calls Yanks & BoSox “disgrace to baseball”
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
he also needs them
to field the ball properly
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
Or Soriano
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 8, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
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