A Blast From The Past: Cubs vs. Phillies Preview, Wednesday 5/19, 6:05 CT
by Al Yellon on May 19, 2010 4:00 PM CDT
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PrintIt's a longshot, but the Cubs might, if they have their power-hitting shoes on tonight, be able to help Jamie Moyer break a longstanding major league record.
The record for home runs allowed by a pitcher in a career is 505, held by Hall of Famer Robin Roberts, who passed away last week. Although it's a somewhat "negative" record, take a look at the leaders on the career list -- of the top ten, six are Hall of Famers, another one should be (Bert Blyleven) and another one will be (Randy Johnson). Moyer enters tonight's game with 501 home runs allowed.
As the old saying goes, "You have to be good to do that." It's unlikely that the Cubs will hit five homers off Moyer tonight -- but he's already leading the league in HR allowed (10). Robin Roberts started his career with the Phillies and ended it with the Cubs. Moyer started his career with the Cubs and is ending it with the Phillies -- so a Cubs HR barrage tonight would be a fitting bookend, not to mention that it would likely give the Cubs a win.
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Since Jamie Moyer spent most of his career with the Mariners (and some with the Cubs), he hasn't made that many starts vs. the Cubs despite ranking 17th on the all-time list with 616 games started -- just seven of them have come against the Cubs. This year, his 10 HR allowed leads the major leagues (tied with Ryan Rowland-Smith and Kevin Millwood), and his 5-2 record is mostly reflective of the 6.9 runs he's gotten from his team in run support per start (fourth in the NL). Derrek Lee is 5-for-11 (.455) against him; Alfonso Soriano has four career HR off Moyer, but that's in 53 AB; overall Soriano is just 12-for-53 (.226) vs. Moyer.
Tom Gorzelanny, who seems the most likely candidate to move out of the rotation when Z returns, has made only one career start vs. the Phillies -- almost three years ago, August 17, 2007 when he was with the Pirates. Quite a number of those players aren't with the Phillies any more; current Phillies are hitting a small-sample-size .333 (6-for-18) vs. Da Gorz.
BCB'er elgato, who wanted to see Jeff Baker in right field all spring training, will get his wish tonight. Baker is playing right field. Lineup via Twittermyer:
Baker in right? Cubs lineup vs. Moyer: riot, castro, lee, byrd, rami, sori, BAKER (RF), soto, gorz.
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First!
Jeff Baker will now be the starting right fielder in the All-Star game!
(kidding)
The last time Jeff Baker played right field...
… was on September 20, 2008. He hit a home run that day. Let’s hope he repeats that performance.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
ha!
Off a soft-tossing lefty! It’s gonna happen, Al.
You do realize that if he does, Lou will then bench him for another two weeks.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Chad Tracy sympathizes.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't dislike this line up
Is it possible that I’m still napping???
"I cherish this dream I had as a little kid to play baseball,'' Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on May 19, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
It is bad
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
keep in mind I meant in context of recent line ups
Lee and Rami split up. No Nadi.
In the world of Lou, it’s about as decent as we’ve seen.
"I cherish this dream I had as a little kid to play baseball,'' Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on May 19, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok given the players in the lineup, here's how it should be
Riot
Castro
Lee
Byrd
Soriano
Soto
Ramirez
Baker
Gorz
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
But then we all be dreaming
Imagine the lack of production from Cubs all over the world :)
"I cherish this dream I had as a little kid to play baseball,'' Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on May 19, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Muffin man offers you this cookie baked with a warm rear..
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Caption:
This season smells like crap.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Anybody else think ...
Jamie Moyer looks like he should be identified as the senior senator from Nebraska?
Without injecting politics into this, I should point out that Chuck Hagel is the senior senator from Nebraska.
And … Moyer kind of looks like him:
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
You think I picked Nebraska at random?
Hell, Hagel looks younger than Moyer!
Oh, wait.
Hagel is the JUNIOR senator from Nebraska. He’s 63. You’re right. That’s not THAT much older than Jamie Moyer.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I thought he was the senior senator.
Either way, it’s kinda freaky.
Hagel WAS the junior senator
He did not run for re-election in 2008.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 19, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm. Need a side by side. Don't see it yet.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hehehe
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
If the Cubs hit 5 homers off Moyer tonight...
I will drive to Taco Bell and buy Tacos from the Drive-Thru while wearing a Viking Helmet and a cape.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 19, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions
Now you're just teasing us.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
We're going to hold you to that.
Photos will be required.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'll post A VIDEO.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 19, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If you really mean that, 3 homers ought to be enuff.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
3 homers off Moyer will only get you the Viking Helmet.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 19, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm...just remember that I have a good memory of these things.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he's just got a craving for tacos.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I have the Helmet, Cape and a Youtube account.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 19, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Bet you're the envy of every 15 year old in your hood, mang
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Caption: shampoo ad fade in
Gee your ass smells terrific!
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:11 PM CDT reply actions
Caption: Dome gets a face full of #2.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 19, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions
That's full of poop.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Who the hell injected common sense into Lou?
Fukudome’s tOPS+ vs LHP – 66
Colvin’s tOPS+ vs LHP – 41
Baker’s tOPS+ vs LHP – 123
Small sample size alert for all of ’em***
Dan
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Not worth the defensive liability.
Phillies will run on Baker like rats in a maze.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 19, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
... awaiting obligatory Fuld post from Jessica ...
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
COLVIN
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
Time to really get a winning streak going and knock a few games off the NL Central lead Cubs!
Let’s make is 4 straight tonight!
A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.
Hmm...been reading the threads today too much...there's a game tonight?
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Early game tomorrow, too...
Let’s take two in less than 24 hours and get the heck up out of town…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Amen to that. Gonna be a lot of traveling going on.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be happy for a split against a team this strong
"I cherish this dream I had as a little kid to play baseball,'' Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on May 19, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, and I think limiting them to 4 runs scored is good for Gorzy.
We’re gonna need to score some runs for sure off Moyer . Wish we seemed to do better against pitchers like him.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
"Fastball" sure is going to be a relative term tonight.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions
no kidding
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Hiya, Allie...did you watch the whole game last night?
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't get to "watch" any of it
i don’t get CSN.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Ah. Yeah, I use MLBtv myself. There is a P2P site you can use if you ever
want the info.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
i thought about springing for Mlb.tv… but since my ip address is technically in the chicago broadcast area, i’d just be paying a hundred bucks to be blacked out.
stupid mlb is stupid.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
This is true. It's one of the few things good about being a Cub fan
Stuck in the STL area. I had clutch send me the info for the P2P site but haven’t used it yet.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
My friend the Phillies fan just wrote me.
His only words: “Beware the Old Man.”
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Any word yet about Olivo's neck after he faceplanted last night?
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
Purpler Ow
Directed me here. He says he’s fine.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Thanks clutch. I feel better for laughing when it happened now...I sure cringed when he layed there awhile
I never want to see anyone injured, despite that being a very clumsy slide head first…looked painful.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Caption:
(Sniff) AHHH! As fresh as the rockies!
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
Let's Go Cubbies!!!!
Natstown is counting on you to put a dent in the Phils!
Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!
time to kick some Philly Phrenetic ass!
this guy’s got a stranglehold on the Philadelphia mascot scene!
/hotlinked
i got nuthin
WIN
The one thing I liked about the Hawks-Canucks series was in every game in Vancouver there were 2 guys in green man costumes right by the penalty box that would dance around when people were there.
You can buy them too, but they’re expensive. Almost got it for halloween
http://www.80stees.com/products/Green-Man-costume.asp?referer=froogle_ASIP009
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
i desperately wanted one for last halloween
i couldn’t find them anywhere. the few that were available were (understandably) marked up to like $200
i got nuthin
The ONE thing?
You didn’t like, say, Hossa OT winner after 5 minute penalty kill that included a shorthanded goal with 13 seconds by Kaner to tie it?
i'm usually
stridently anti-mascots… but the Phanatic makes me LMAO.
I dunno why.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
He irritates some people, but he's always been one of the most popular mascots and I like him.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's him with one of his peers..
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs sure are determined to
stunt Colvin’s growth. Seriously, what kind of organization does this crap? They’re determined to screw up the short-term AND the long-term?
Colvin should never have been in the majors without a serious commitment to get him lots of ABs including against lefties.
Lou doesn't want to start him against a lefty.
Which is dumb, but hardly a reason to think that Colvin’s growth will be stunted.
If he doesn't get a chance
to hit lefties. How is he supposed to become an everyday player?
by TheRamZamDLEE on May 19, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
in response to both questions ...
I think the move is dumb (and I said that). But it’s one game. Sheesh.
I am annoyed because
all we here about is how hard it is to rotate playing time among 5 guys in the outfield (one is a rookie we hope develops into a star) and then all of a sudden he runs Baker out there.
It’s typical Lou, and I’m sick of it.
Oh, I would start Colvin, too.
I’m just tired of getting upset over Lou’s goofiness. And, anyway, Baker needs to play once in a while (when he’s not trying to light his farts on fire).
I'm just using the Baker thing to express
my frustration at Colvin even being in the majors. He belongs in AAA unless the Cubs are committed to playing him almost every day against both righties and lefties. Otherwise, he’s developing into a role player, not a star.
Otherwise, he’s developing into a role player, not a star.
It’s not fair to make this judgment after six weeks.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
That's sure the hard argument I have a hard time criticizing Lou for.
He’s got tons of options and lots of players to keep happy with playing time. It’s impossible to please everyone. I think there is some validity to keeping one of our bench players in the minors.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs need 6
to win tonight.
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on May 19, 2010 5:33 PM CDT reply actions
And also to get SWL in his viking hat and cape.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I put on my hat and wizard robe.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
That's been posted on this site a few times. Still is bizarre.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhhh, just saw it pop up on MSN.com so I thought it was "Breaking News!"
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
1 – What is a pop-up?
and
2 – What is MSN?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
DKT will twitter you it to your facebook account.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's go Cubbies!
Pitch well Gorzzy.
Aardvarks!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Avatar provided courtesy of AndrewJStone.
Hey eswan...didja like the result of being on the Hawks thread last night?
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
the mighty Blachawks!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on May 19, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I sure did
why I wait for a while before posting
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Avatar provided courtesy of AndrewJStone.
caption
fukudome takes the saying “fukudome sucks ass when its not april” a little too far
Watch out Jaws, here comes the UH-60s.
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
ok, what's the punchline?
Formerly known as BleedsbluinMi.
"You ain't a beauty, but hey you're alright. And that's alright with me" - The Boss
I'm a waitin' too.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
it was just on CSN!!!!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on May 19, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
No you di iint.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
im not sure if i should believe you
or have a heart attack
Watch out Jaws, here comes the UH-60s.
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 19, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
youre kidding...
right?
Watch out Jaws, here comes the UH-60s.
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 19, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
NOOOOO
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on May 19, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
it was announced as breaking news
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on May 19, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
better throw up a fanpost if you can get a link
meanwhile, I’ll just throw up.
Formerly known as BleedsbluinMi.
"You ain't a beauty, but hey you're alright. And that's alright with me" - The Boss
they havent said anything more
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on May 19, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
not kidding
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Avatar provided courtesy of AndrewJStone.
oh sweet me
what the hell
Watch out Jaws, here comes the UH-60s.
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 19, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on May 19, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn unbelievable. Nothing on CSN yet. If true even more evidence Hendry should be fired NOW!
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Please don't make me drink tonight.
I don’t want to.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
It's true. Kaplan just
reported it on CTL. He said the Cubs jumped on the chancce to sign him again. I won’t tell you what my husband said. It was definitely X-rated.
Your husband is a very smart man, he he
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Avatar provided courtesy of AndrewJStone.
If you were still @ the UW
I’d offer you a little of rum we brought back from Costa Rica… I might need to open and have a glass :(
"I cherish this dream I had as a little kid to play baseball,'' Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on May 19, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 19, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Howry makes kitty sad.
"Everything has an end, except a sausage, which has two."
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 19, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
its a minor league deal
right?…right?
Watch out Jaws, here comes the UH-60s.
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 19, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
And you all know why
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
my heart.....
Watch out Jaws, here comes the UH-60s.
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 19, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Lost in Translation
“I said kick ass!”
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on May 20, 2010 11:11 AM CDT reply actions
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