Hanley for Castro?

Ramirez has had a bad attitude about his situation in Florida, so how would he fare in Chicago? No thanks. We already went through enough drama with Bradley.

maybe a package of Colvin and Cashner? Something to think about, but probably something I wouldn’t do.

Hanley Ramirez is a brilliant SS with a ton of talent. But remember all the complaining about Soriano’s lack of hustle (from way back 3 weeks ago)? With a talented, but aging team that is underperforming, bringing in a guy who is benched for hustling, calls out his manager via the media and publicly takes a shot at his teammates (saying that lots of guys are dogging it) is not the answer. Not only would he be bad for the Cubs right now, but when the front office decides that, “yes, it’s time to rebuild,” this is not the kind of guy you want around the younger guys who are still developing at the MLB level.

… are you out of your mind?

there is NO FREAKING WAY you give up your top prospect for him.

I’m not automatically opposed to giving him another shot, but if the Marlins ask for anything but an AA pitcher or two Single A players, you say no.

Since these are the Marlins, they have a low payroll and will not pay any/much of Ramirez’s contract if they traded him away.

So the Cubs would be on the hook for the remaining $47+MM on his contract. Therefore the Cubs should get other players along with Ramirez.

If you’re paying the freight, you get more players in return.

and gets jumped on.

It would never happen but then again Lou Brock for Broglio did too, didn’t it? How about Selling Babe Ruth for cash? Granted years ago but anything is possible, you armchair GMs of the Cubs.

Florida isn’t trading him. This will blow over. Freddi Gonzalez isn’t even going to be managing in Florida next year—he’s the odd-on favorite to take over for Bobby Cox in Atlanta.

…I thought Al banned you from this site months ago?

When you go to the gas station to get donuts and you want one of those Bavarian creme filled chocolate round ones and then you accidentally get the ones with the nasty white creme?

That makes me want to cut a bitch.

is the current production of Hanley Ramirez over Castro equal to the increased cost.

I don’t think so. Castro can provide a lot of offensive and defensive production and a fraction of the cost for a few years. Spend money where we actually need to, not where we have cheap but solid prospects.

it’s amazing to me how much some people undervalue Hanley Ramirez. I know he plays in Florida, but I figured that it’d be well understood by anyone who follows a baseball blog that Hanley is one of the best players in baseball.

…I’d do it. Hanley is only 26 years old – and Hak-Ju Lee is on the way. You could always shift Hanley to third base at that point. We’re talking about a guy who’s been a 7+ WAR player for the last two seasons.

No way Fla trades HR. This is the stuff of fantasy league baseball. Nice thought, just won’t happen.

I don’t think the Marlins are allowed to shed money without Loria being deemed an ever bigger crook. Fish will have to take more money back than Hanley’s 47 million. So not only will the Cubs be getting Ramirez in this deal, they will be shedding every bloated contract we have in the process! Might as well make them throw in Nunez while we are at it.

Probably forget that Hanley didn’t look like a .900 ops SS at age 19.

At age 19 Hanley was in A ball for the entire season and hit for a .730 ops.

At age 19 Starlin split his year between high-A and AA, hitting for a .734 ops.

They are not the same player though (obviously), so saying what Starlin will or will not be is like playing the lottery: your numbers might hit but it’s not because you could know they would come up.

By the way, does anyone know how tall Castro is these days? The usual sites list him at 6’0" but I’ve seen also him reported as 6’1" and 6’2"…

…………were real, not only do you part with Castro, but perhaps other players as well.

His talent is unique, and in a position that is filled with stars, Hanley is the best SS in MLB.

I like Stalin’s attitude much better than Hanley’s.