Some Memorable Chicago-St. Louis History: Cubs vs. Cardinals Preview, Friday 5/28, 1:20 CT
by Al Yellon on May 28, 2010 11:01 AM CDT
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PrintRecently, Chris Jaffe at Hardball Times ranked what he felt were the ten greatest Cubs/Cardinals games of all time.
While there are indeed some great games in that post (the Sandberg Game, Don Cardwell's no-hitter, a critical game in the 1945 pennant race), Chris neglected to mention one particular series that was perhaps the most intensely played regular season series in Wrigley Field history.
The Cardinals had been scheduled for a four-game series at Wrigley starting on Labor Day 2003, September 1. It became a five-game series due to a rainout on May 11 which we dubbed the "Typhoon Game" -- a game played in 45 degree temperatures with 40+ MPH winds that got called after four innings of play in appalling conditions. The Cubs came into the series trailing St. Louis by 1.5 games. On September 1, a scheduled 1:20 start was delayed nearly three hours by rain, but after it started, Mark Prior threw eight shutout innings in the first game of the series and the Cubs won 7-0. In the 2nd game, the first of a scheduled day-night DH, the Cubs left the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth and it took a two-run walkoff by Sammy Sosa in the 15th inning for a 4-2 Cubs win that took almost five hours and pushed back the start of the night game by an hour.
In that second game, the Cubs were trailing 2-0 in the last of the 7th with the bases loaded when Moises Alou hit a ball that landed down the LF line near the bullpen, just fair. Unfortunately, Triple-A replacement umpire Jay Klemm (who never umpired in the majors again after 2003) called it foul -- it would have cleared the bases and given the Cubs a 3-2 lead. Reliever Antonio Alfonseca jumped out of the bullpen and bumped Klemm, earning a seven-game suspension (Cubs fans, not happy with Alfonseca's performance in '03, joked that the team was going to appeal and ask for the suspension to be increased). The Cubs lost the game 2-0.
But we're not done yet! The next afternoon, Matt Clement was trailing 2-0 in the sixth when for some unfathomable reason, Dusty Baker called on rookie lefthander Felix Sanchez to make his major league debut in this critical situation: runners on second and third and two out. Sanchez walked Fernando Vina and then gave up a grand slam to J.D. Drew. (Sanchez, at the time considered a pretty decent prospect at age 21, made two more appearances for the Cubs in '03, was sent to the Tigers in a minor league deal the next year and never again pitched in the major leagues.)
The Cubs pulled to within 7-6 on homers by Aramis Ramirez, Alou and Alex Gonzalez and took the lead 8-7 in the bottom of the eighth. In the ninth, Joe Borowski came in and retired the side in order, striking out future Cub Jim Edmonds swinging to end it -- that's about the loudest I ever heard Wrigley during a regular season game. The 8-7 win on September 3 put the Cubs only half a game behind the Cardinals -- and the next day, in a back-and-forth game, the Cubs again won by one run, 7-6, moving ahead of the Cardinals and within half a game of the Astros, who they eventually defeated for the NL Central title.
Those games were all memorable, and the entire series was unforgettable. Let's hope the Cubs make some great memories for us this weekend. Cardinals? Bring 'em on.
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Chris Carpenter has always been tough on the Cubs -- 9-3, 2.81 in 17 career starts, and even better last year, when he was 2-0 with a no-decision in three starts with a 1.42 ERA. He has allowed nine home runs already this year, though; he gave up only seven all last year. They have occurred in a strange pattern: two in his first start, three in his second, then none for five straight outings, then four in his last three. Derrek Lee and Alfonso Soriano have had good success against him; combined, they are 27-for-79 (.342) against him with three HR.
Randy Wells' only career start against the Cardinals was last July 12 at Wrigley Field, a game better known as the "Sean Marshall In Left Field" game. Wells gave up four runs in seven innings, not a bad outing; all the runs were on a pair of two-run homers by Ryan Ludwick. The rest of the Cardinals went 5-for-22 (.227) against Wells, all singles, and he held Albert Pujols to an 0-for-4.
Today's game is on WGN and FSN Midwest. As yesterday, the Cubs are also being picked up by the MLB Network for national coverage -- I assume using the Cardinals feed, as MLB Network usually doesn't pick up WGN. Here is the rest of the MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Cardinals site Viva El Birdos.
Today's first pitch thread will be up at 1:15 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 2:15, 3:15 and 4 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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haha.
Cubswynn ftw.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Ftw?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 28, 2010 12:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
For the Wynn
Obvs
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
such a
n00b.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
awesome
opening
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by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2010 11:11 AM CDT reply actions
I'm so glad to hear both medical scares were just that.
And didn’t I call the Zambrano constipation?
What kind of "inside" information did you have?
On second thought, don’t answer that.
by Steven Schweickert on May 28, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I want to know, to be honest.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's to hoping the Cards continue being pretenders
instead of contenders, and here’s to hoping their hitting woes continue.
Big Mac hitting coach lolololololol
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions
We need AARDVARKS
All this weekend,
GO HAWKS!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
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That Cubs-Cards series in 2003
might have been the best series I’ve ever seen. It had a little bit of everything; good pitching, good hitting, good defense, big comebacks and plenty of controversy (Alfonseca vs. ump, TLR vs. Dusty, etc.).
The four-game series in late July 2008 in Milwaukee was another outstanding one (mostly because the Cubs swept it and effectively ended the NL Central race), but Cubs-Cards in September 2003 is a tough one to top.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 28, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions
Totally agree
That was baseball like it oughta be. Highlights of the Alou and Borowski eras, far as I’m concerned.
Unsung heroes were the bullpen in the 15 inning monster.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
July 2008 Brewers Series
I was worried that the Cubs were going to fade away before that series, but they stayed strong until well, you know.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
They only had a one-game lead
over the Crew going into that series, and they only gained it the day before, when they beat the Marlins.
After that series, the Cubs had a five-game lead, and the race essentially was over.
The first game of that series might have had the best atmosphere of any game I’ve ever attended.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 28, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
I remember reading all kinds of news stories about the atmosphere at Miller Park for that game.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs-Cards 2003
Proud to say I was at the 15-inning game. I’ll never forget taking 4 of 5 from the Cards in an ALMOST magical season.
best. series. ever.
the first game was perhaps the most intense game I can remember. and I wasn’t even able to watch it or listen to it… i was just following it on Gameday haha. when lee drove in the winning run in the ninth I couldn’t believe it.
that was definitely the defining series of the 08 season. too bad it ended so badly
Random question I thought of after seeing this pic...
Why is Sandberg wearing a helmet? Does he coach 3rd?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Apparently, yes
The article said that he was coaching 3B
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
If Randy Wells beats Carpenter today ...
I think we can start considering Wells as the ace (or co-ace) of this staff, with all respect to Dempster.
Lilly's been inconsistent, though he was great yesterday.
I know the inconsistency is partly based on recovering from the injury. But Randy is coming into his own.
The same could be said about Wells.
I mean there’s a reason why he’s got the highest ERA of the three.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Fine...
…but Lill hasn’t given up more than 3 runs since May 5th. So my point is that if you are calling Lilly inconsistent, you could say the same about Wells. Both are pretty reliable, but Lilly is by far the better pitcher.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Really?
Lilly 09-10: 3.21 ERA, 1.078 WHIP, 34 starts, 13-13, 140 ERA+
Wells 09-10: 3.29 ERA, 1.272 WHIP, 36 starts, 15-12, 137 ERA+
That counts as “far better” pitcher? Better stuff, I’d agree.
by Steven Schweickert on May 28, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Stop using stats against me.
Perhaps my man crush on Lilly is altering my train of thought.
Here’s the other thing, if Wells proves that he can keep this up like Lilly has, that might also change my opinion.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
When Wells runs over
Yadiar Molina than we can say he is in Lily’s league. Wells can actually hit though.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 28, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Can'
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
Can't just run him over though.
Has to put him on the DL.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
better stuff?
Ted is throwing 85 these days…. he’s barely hanging on
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by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Just like that poor bastard Jamie Moyer
If the Phillies didn’t need a starter so badly, he’d be out of baseball.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I'd argue Ted isn't quite 100% healthy
WHIP is up a tenth on last year, his BB/9 is up almost a full walk, and his K/9 is down 2.5.
If fully healthy, yes, better stuff.
by Steven Schweickert on May 28, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
perhaps
or perhaps this what he is at age 34
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by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably a mix of both.
But that’s a sorta-sharp dropoff for it to just be “Old-Man” Syndrome.
by Steven Schweickert on May 28, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe not ace status as of yet, but...
randy has been HUGE for the rotation since last year…very pleasant surprise and has been consistently good
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
CUBS lineup
Fukudome
Theriot
Lee
Ramirez
Soriano
Byrd
Soto
Castro
Wells
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
You have got to be shitting me.
Why?
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Maybe Lou thinks Ramirez needs the protection, but this is infuriating.
"protection"
What so he will only swing at balls 2 feet outside the plate instead of 3?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 28, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't agree with the logic.
But I’m guessing that’s Lou’s thought process.
I think it is more like
Trust the vets and I have to let him hit clean up or he will never get better.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 28, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Lou's that simple-minded, DS.
Wrong a lot? Sure. Maybe Aramis has good career numbers off Carp?
13 for 46 with 3 2Bs, 1 HR, and 3 RBI
Not too bad.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
also
what are Fontenot’s numbers against Carp? Cause Backer’s not available today, right?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Geoff's a Packer fan?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Meant
Baker. My fingers have their own spelling.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope
he is okay, that is a scary thing. Did Kirby Puckett have something similar end his career?
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Migraines didn't end Puckett's career...
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he lost vision in one eye?
pretty sure I heard that is what happened to Baker. I apologize if I erronously listened to a report…..
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Erroneously listening?
My mother used to accuse me of having “selective hearing” – is that similar?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Yeah I guess it is just
a merriam-webster way of saying it. the Erroneously version.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He had an occular migraine.
There’s a fanshot up for this.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
half the fanshots are drivel.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Including my own
really.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
1 for 6 with 2 Ks
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
that might be part of it, then.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Possibly
Hopefully Rami busts out, big hope.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
well ...
no one’s saying Ramirez shouldn’t start. But hitting cleanup is questionable.
I agree with that.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
VERY
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
i really don't think it's a coincidence
that the cubs have been playing better while aramis “the blackhole” ramirez has been out of the lineup. i can’t believe they didn’t DL him and let him “rehab” at AAA
WKOBBDYP???
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
Because everybody starts a .160 hitter
coming off an injury at clean up.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 28, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I honestly wouldn't complain
if Ramirez wasn’t hitting 4th. Putting this abject failure of a player, this season anyway, makes the rest of the lineup an abomination. Lou’s continual use of Ramirez in these spots is like hoping he comes around, or believing he’s due to break out of his slump.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
...Really?
Really? Come on. Stop screwing with me, Lou.
by Steven Schweickert on May 28, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Why does it smell minty?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
With that lineup, I'd crack open the scotch if I wasn't going flying later.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Scotch sounds tremendous right now.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
When doesn't it?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Ever since little Andre was born
I’ve had to dial back on my scotch. I get Grant’s or J&B now instead of Glenfidditch.
Still good, but I miss my Glenfidditch
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Chivas Regal 12 isn't too pricy.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
So, I'm kinda new to scotch
but I like it enough, and I figure getting a bottle of scotch for my father in law would be a good father’s day gift. Anyone have a recommendation for something that is good, but not super high priced?
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Glenfidditch 12 years aged
is usually around $50.
Does he take it neat, rocks or with water/soda? If he doesn’t take it neat or on the rocks, just get him a $25-$30 bottle. He’s desecrating it anyway, so don’t get him the good stuff
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Glenfidditch is a good choice, yes
So is Glenlivet.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Noted
I would know this myself, but I only drink what’s poured for me, and I know I like it, I just don’t what it is specifically.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
On the rocks
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd still go with the good stuff
If he drinks it fast enough, it won’t get watered down.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Or he'll get "The Perfect Sip"
Where the melting ice dilutes the product just enough to change it, but not enough to kill it. I loooooove that moment.
Of course, I’ll usually savor it for a bit and then get the rest of the stuff down quickly – it’s far less enjoyable after it’s dead, Jim.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Thanks for the help
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll add my favorite in the price range
The Oban (12 years) has a little more peat and smoke than either of the Glens listed above. A good alternative if he’s looking for something (presumably) new.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Have you tried Talisker, Clutch?
If you like peat and smoke its excellent!
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
I have
Back in my experimenting days – it wasn’t the most memorable of the bunch, I’m sorry to say.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I would recommend
Talisker if you can find it. It has an AMAZING smoky taste, but is a bit more pricey than Glenlivet or fiddich.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
Agreed
I like my scotch on the rocks, myself
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Highland Park 12 year
If you like scotch and haven’t tried it, I strongly suggest you do.
by BringBackRyno on May 28, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a big scotch fan
but I do like this stuff. In fact, there’s a bottle of it in my liquor cabinet right now.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 28, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Balvinie doublewood
Clean, finished in port and sherry casks.
not smoky at all – delishious
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
Again, Castro out of the 2nd spot...
Even though he hasn’t contributed the last couple games, the cubs are 8-0 with him in the 2 spot. It doesn’t get any more obvious than that.
by cubsonWGN4ever on May 28, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Nope
You have to put the guy with the .365 OPS last week and .645 for the season in the two hole. He’s earned it…
DeRiculous!
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
I went to the 5/10/03 game
which was the game where my girlfriend at the time got elbowed when a fight broke out near us, and I had multiple beers spilled on me by the drunks behind me, who had a hard time holding the beer in their hand.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions
Cubs-Cards
Also known as Civil War in the Worf household!
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
the cubs haven't been to a WS since the germans bombed pearl harbor
:(
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
No, since the year we dropped the bomb on Germany
Four years later, Sen. Blutarsky.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
my bad...
my GPA in “colege” was 0.00
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
;-)
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
That 8-7 game
Remember it well. Was in an interminable meeting at work and annoyed about it. Surreptitiously following the game on the internet and annoyed about the score.
Got back to my desk and it was 7-6, jumped up when they went ahead. At that point, I knew that that team was doing something special.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
This is easily the hardest game of the series
Carpenter owns the Cubs . The one thing the Cubs have going for them is that by my estimate the Cardinals could not have gotten to bed before 2AM last night. I doubt it will wear them down after their big win but I will take what little comfort I can in it.
It also just insane that the Cardinals can start a guy making his first MLB start yesterday and he throws 5 shut out innings. I have no idea what deal Duncan has with the Devil but the Devil is not getting enough.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
Agreed
That was a bizarre starting time last night in San Diego.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 28, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't the Conventional Wisdom
That a guy making his first start has an advantage? It’s his second start where he gets his ass lit
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
It is conventional wisdom that a guy making his first start against the Cubs
is made to look like the 2nd coming of Koufax, I can’t comment on other teams.
FYI Walthers struggled terribly in the first two innings and threw over 50 pitches but the Padres did not take advantage. They must have thought they were the Cubs.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 28, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Trust me, Jess,
it happens to other teams, too.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 28, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if today's game is "the hardest game of the series" but
I do think it will be HUGE for the Cubs to get a rare win against Carpenter.
Let’s hope Lou will be proven right by putting ARam at clean up. Is this the way Lou rewards ARam for being stubborn about not working with Rudy? Personally, I would put ARam in the #6 or #7 spot until he proves he is better than that.
But that is why I am typing on my laptop and Lou is napping in the dugout.
Carlos Silva lemonade: made from freshly squeezed Milton Bradley lemons. -- the Jim Hendry kook book.
Where have you heard Ramirez won't work with Jaramillo?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Cite?
Or a link?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Didn't Al
debunk it, too?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I helped
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
sorry
I didn’t see you being all Socratic there. :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Incorrect re: last night's starter
Cardinals’ starter yesterday, PJ Walters, actually made his MLB debut at Wrigley Field last year on April 17, a game that didn’t go so well for the Cardinals.
In his real MLB debut, he gave up 3 ER in 4 IP, so it didn’t go so well for PJ last time around. He seems to have improved a bit since last April.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by ChiTown CardFan on May 28, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Graduation days?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/ticketing/graduation_day.jsp
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Just in case this point is getting lost in the scotch talk
That lineup freaking sucks
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Hence the scotch talk
♪Some drink to remember, some drink to forget♫
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Theriot 2nd and Castro 8th
and Rami 4th. Wow. Apparently Pinella has been drinking too.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
I'm on vacation in New York City...
Is there any WGN on Time Warner Cable? My limited googling implies no.
also on MLB network today...
waiting to see if it gets blacked out in memphis…usually does
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
No
I miss my Directv. You can go to Kelly’s Bar on Ave A off Houston and ask them to put it on one of the screens.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 28, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
That's weird
I have Time Warner in L.A. and they have WGN. Channel 25.
Whenever I see or name Sammy Sosa's name
All I remember is 66 bombs in 98 and an unflattering exit, sigh.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions
i recall cork being sprayed all over the infield
i loved sammie, but that’s what i remember…oh that and him “forgetting” english on capital hill
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
El béisbol ha sido muy, muy bueno para mí
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
haha
good call.
And a supreme court visit.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Caption
“Marmol tells the Dodgers to pound sand.”
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
cards lineup
Lopez, Ludwick, Pujols, Holliday, Rasmus, Molina, Schumaker, Ryan, Carpenter
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
Hey, look at that
the two strongest hitters are 3 and 4. What a concept.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Both
have been shitting the bed lately.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on May 28, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
and Lee has been hot ...
so I don’t have a problem with him hitting third.
Lee has certainly been hot-er
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Sunday Blackout Mess
If you live in Cardinals or Cubs TV territory and don’t get KSDK Channel 5 or CSN Chicago, then the TBS telecast will be blacked out. At least the Cardinals have plenty of radio stations on their network with the game, so I can listen to the game albeit from the Cardinals point of view.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
Lou's Hoveround Lineup of DOOM
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok time to put all our armchair manager skills to the test:
I’m going to re-post the lineup and I want you guys to re-make the lineup as you would have it instead of just gnashing your teeth and saying it sucks. For example, I wouldn’t do much different other than swapping Castro and Theriot and moving Aramis down to 7th. What would YOU do?
Lou’s lineup:
Fukudome
Theriot
Lee
Ramirez
Soriano
Byrd
Soto
Castro
Wells
My Lineup for today vs. a righty:
Fukudome
Castro
Lee
Soriano
Byrd
Soto
Ramirez
Theriot
Wells
by cubsonWGN4ever on May 28, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions
Dome
Castro
Lee
Byrd
Soriano
Soto
Ramirez
Riot
Wells
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
From mine, you flipped Soriano and Byrd
Both are righties and both are hitting the ball well. Just out of curiosity, what’s your reasoning?
by cubsonWGN4ever on May 28, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't trust Soriano and Byrd is more consistent.
Castro should be our #2 ALWAYS, Ramirez can’t hit for crap at the moment, and Riot would be #11 if there was such a spot.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Ha, pretty much agree
Definitely with Castro always in #2 but I don’t discount Theriot’s value as much as you do I think
by cubsonWGN4ever on May 28, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
That makes too much sense.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 28, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
i'd go
Fukudome
Soto
Lee
Soriano
Byrd
Ramirez
Castro
Riot
Wells
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by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
As manager I'd just flip Castro and Theriot
Then flip Ramirez the Byrd…
Freudian Slip there?
"Why people, who have not committed any punishable offense, listen to Country and Western music is absolutely beyond me" - John Cleese
Lineup
Dome
Castro
Lee
Soriano
Byrd
Ramirez
Soto
Theriot
Wells
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
If I were to be able to change EVERYTHING?
Dome
Castro
Lee
Soriano
Soto
Colvin
Ramirez
Theriot
Wells
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
Dome
Castro
Lee
Soriano
Soto
Byrd
Baker
Ramirez
Wells
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice to see the Cubs...
…battle back a bit here in the last couple of weeks. Baring injury, I still think the Cards will end up winning the division by at least 5 games, but I hope I am way off base.
Just keep winning series, and you never know.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Lou's use of Colvin continues to completely confound
I’m going to be so happy when this old moron is finally run out of Chicago for SO many reasons, but his inability to develop Pie and Colvin are going to be two big ones.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
Maybe it's...
the gorgeous weather. Or maybe it’s the fact that I’m 4 hours away from tapping a keg. Or maybe it’s the fact that the Hawks begin the final leg of their championship run this season. I don’t know what it is, but I haven’t been this excited about a Chicago sports weekend in a LONG time!
Sunny, breezy, and 77 for the game
Good day for baseball. Thanks Tom Skilling!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Greatest forgotten Cub Game
Would have been this one on September 9, 1989. Like the Sandberg game, it was also a Saturday Game of the Week and the Cubs entered the game with a half game lead over the Cardinals. Sutcliffe dueled Jose DeLeon for seven innings, but the Cubs trailed 2-1. The Cubs tied the scored at two in the bottom of the eight with an unearned run from a Tom Brunansky error. Then the Cubs scored the winning run in the tenth inning on a Luis Salazar double that scored Andre Dawson.
It was the start of a six game winning streak for the Cubs and no team ever got closer than three games to them the rest of the way.
Dwight Smith
Was a star that series. After the Cubs blew the opening game, Smith singled, hestitated and then ran to second, forcing that Brunansky error. The next day, IIRC, Smitty hit a two-run homerun in a 3-0 game, and Steve Wilson struck out 10 in 5 IP.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Was a great weekend for the Cubs
Especially considering how bad it could have gone after Friday.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 28, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
WAKE UP LOU IT IS TIME TO PLAY THE KIDS
Ok Cub fans we are now 3 games under 500 again and 6 games out from first. Today again we seen Colvin come thru with a homer. All he has done now is hit a triple, double, and home run in his last 3 pinch hits. When is Lou going to wake up to the fact this kid should play regular everyday! Switch Fuko and Bryd-Soriano but leave Colvin in the line up period! Also, again today we seen Grabow give up two more runs. How long does it take Lou to know this guy needs to go to Iowa to work out his problems. We need to bring the kids up Cashner, Jackson for the pen. We have to start to get younger on this team! I am so tired of watching this team never hot consistent. We have the best hitting coach in base ball and yet we can not hot consistently. Finally, all this bs with Zambrano is just bs period! I say trade him to get a top relief pitcher and a top prospect to play first base for us in the future. All Zambrano is going to is walk guys ane be hit again,He has lost his stuff since he sign the big contract. Like I said months ago Ozie loves Zambrano so trade him to Sox for Matt Thorton. And if we do not begin to hit and win with consistency then it is time to fire Lou to bring up Sandberg to bring some energy to this team.
LET US LOOK AT SOME REAL BLUNDERS BY JIM HENDRY
iF Rickerts does not get rid of Jim Hendry after this season then we will have the same old crap next year. And Lou will be back instead of having Sandberg our manager. One blunder no Cub fan nor our media mentions is when the Cubs allowed McGhee to get away to be with Milwaukee. He could have been playing second base and Third for us last year and especially this year with Ramieriz hurting. All he has done is hot for high average and is one of the main R.B.I"s guys on the Brewers. Right now he has 41 runs batted in already. Also, we could have had Matt Holiday but no Hendry had no interest. Add this to all the stupid big contracts he gave people and everyone should know he deserves to be fired to make Gregg Maddox GM. The fact is we need some new young blood at the top like Sandberg and Maddox to bring some new energy to this team. We can only hope Mr Rickerts will do this because if not then are just wasting more years of losing!!!!
HERE IS MY LINE UP TO PLAY DAILY
THERIOT CASTRO COLVIN LEE SOTO SORIANO BYRD RAMERIZ PITCHER
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