The All-Albert Show: Pujols' Three Homers Lead Cardinals Past Cubs 9-1
by Al Yellon on May 30, 2010 5:11 PM CDT
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PrintDuring batting practice today, one of the Cardinals -- I didn't see who -- launched a ball onto Waveland Avenue, after which it took a bounce off the sidewalk and broke a first-floor window on the dark-brown brick building (the only one with no seats on the roof). A Cubs staff employee was soon seen in the street taking copious notes -- I'm assuming the Cubs will pay the couple of hundred dollars it will cost to replace that window.
It very well may have been Albert Pujols who hit that ball, because he sent another one onto Waveland in the first inning. He was clearly in the zone today, because Ryan Dempster pitched him carefully in the third, issuing a walk to him after Skip Schumaker stole second while Dempster struck out Ryan Ludwick. This helped result in an inning-ending double-play ball hit by Matt Holliday, keeping the score 1-0.
The score was 2-0 in the fifth when Pujols came up with two out and a runner on first base; Dempster was laboring and his pitch count was approaching 90. It's not conventional wisdom, but given what had already happened, why not walk Pujols intentionally there? Instead, he slammed a two-run homer; game essentially over, since Adam Wainwright was giving the Cubs nothing.
The final score of 9-1 Cardinals wasn't anywhere near how close the game was until the seventh inning, when Dempster finally did walk Pujols intentionally (it actually took a mound visit from Lou to accomplish this obvious move, for some reason), and then Dempster, having thrown 3,765 pitches (OK, really only 120) gave up a RBI single to Holliday.
But that wasn't the real fun -- John Grabow, after retiring the first five hitters he faced and making us think, "Hmmm, maybe he can pitch after all", gave up Pujols' third homer of the game to the basket in left-center, a single to Holliday, and a monstrous blast onto Waveland by David Freese that soared over our heads in the LF corner and nearly put a second hole into that broken window.
I hate to say this, but I was actually glad to see those home runs. Here's my mea culpa: John Grabow has been horrible. I still don't think it was a bad signing given what was known at the time, although admittedly, it was too much money. I do not believe anyone would have thought he would be this bad -- but bad he is; he's now allowed five home runs this year in 19 innings, which matches his total from all of last year, when he threw 72 innings. He has allowed 32 hits in those innings and has a 2.263 WHIP. You've got to get a guy like that out of there. There were some reported knee problems with Grabow earlier -- they must still be bothering him. Get him to the DL, since it appears Tom Gorzelanny is headed to the bullpen with Carlos Zambrano returning to the rotation on Wednesday. David Kaplan tweeted this exact scenario earlier today:
I would hope that John Grabow is placed on the DL tomorrow with an injury to make room for Andrew Cashner. Wow, does he look brutal!
Kaplan also tweeted that Lou wants three RHP and three LHP in the pen -- but that's only six relievers. He probably forgot about James Russell. Lou seems to be forgetting a lot these days. In his postgame news conference he mentioned that there will be lineup changes coming up; let's hope they include more playing time for Mike Fontenot and Tyler Colvin and perhaps also a DL stint for Aramis Ramirez, who was thrown out at the plate today in the second inning and from what I understand, did not run on contact on Starlin Castro's single. That would allow Chad Tracy to be recalled from Iowa to platoon with Jeff Baker at 3B.
This team is maddening. Yesterday they looked like world-beaters; today, after the first couple of innings, they looked like they were just waiting for the bus to the airport. They are headed on the road to play three teams they should, if they are to contend, win six of nine on the trip. That would bring them home at .500 and give them a shot at getting back in contention. We'll see.
One final note regarding the 27 home games -- one-third of the schedule -- played thus far. There have been no rainouts nor rain delays; a few sprinkles fell one day, but other than that there hasn't even been any precipitation during any Wrigley games this season, and the average game-time temperature for the 27 dates is 62 degrees, way above what we usually see this time of year. The only other years I can remember with springs this warm were 1977 and 1988 -- and both of those were extremely hot summers.
So we should expect some hot weather when the Cubs return home on June 11. Let's hope the baseball from the North Siders matches the weather.
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Put this one behind us...
Time to regroup and head to Pittsburgh where it’s time for some payback against the Pirates. It’s a shame we couldn’t finish the homestand 4-2 but Pujols is the MVP and today he showed why…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Bad day for the Cubs...
Great Day for my fantasy team!!!
Let’s go Hawks!
To eliminate exclusion, we cut out the differences to feel like we belong.
I mentioned this in the game thread, which was the wrong place for it,
but going into a stretch of playing better teams, I think most Cubs fans will have taken losing only one of five series.
The next three series are winnable ones. I suggest it’s time for the Cubs to do so.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
The recap was nice as usual but didn't mention the important stuff.
For example, why did our guys only score 1 run? Hey, Pujols is good, but what about DLee and Aram. Oh, I see what you did there. But I still think some blame has to go around besides Grabow. Like where is Colvin nowadays? Why is Theriot still playing when we have Baker and Fontenot? Why is Aram playing 3rd base? Why are Howry and Grabow on this team? Let’s not make today all Grabow’s fault.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on May 30, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
They scored one run ...
… because Wainwright is pretty good?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
True, but when we are leaving guys hitting .337 on the bench when we have trouble scoring runs is such a good move.
Don’t you think?
The WGN post-game show
mentioned that Fontenot’s BA against Wainwright was 100 points higher than Theriot’s. It’s inexplicable why Fontentot was on the bench today and Theriot was starting at 2nd.
Interesting.
Look, what do you want me to do? What kind of baseball do you play?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on May 30, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You hit the nail on the
head . Nothing has changed nor will it . Have to also wonder why Lou let Dempster hit in the 5 th . Gotta try and start a rally behind 4-0 then .
Lou has a history
of trying to get his veteran pitchers a win. Obviously Dempster couldn’t have earned the victory if he was pulled for a pinch hitter. It infuriates me that Lou does that consistenly and just another reason why he needs to go.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Actually, he could have
Had they scored 5 in the 5th and held the lead, Dempster would have gotten the win.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 31, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
How?
tharr said Demp couldn’t have gotten a win if pinch-hit for, and I said he could have.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 31, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Lou was playing the odds
It was very unlikely they would have scored 5 runs that inning. By allowing Demp to remain in the game, he gave the team a few innings to catch up or take the lead.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Girardi over-manages the Yankees, but he would have known something like that
And juggles his line-up.
Sorry, but I still think signing Piniella for a farewell tour while Girardi was available was a serious mistake.
+1 million
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Um yea......
Unlike the starters Jim Hendry hired to play for the Cubs…….
The Cards have 2 ACES…….something the cubs have 0 of……
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
To answer my rhetorical question above about DLee and Aram
DLee is batting .237 and went 0 for 4 with 3 K’s. Aram who is now batting .166 went 1 for 4 and got thrown out at home (which stopped a possible big rally). Can’t fault him entirely, but then again none of these two are Pujols.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Apparently.
He did suggest there will be changes on the road trip. We’ll see.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah, right.
You mean “changes” like when they re-hired Howry? I don’t think I care for anymore of those kind of changes!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Well, he puts Castro 8th--and then 2n--and then 8th again...those are changes!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Maybe all he is talking about is Z and Cashner.......
I would like to ask AL who he thinks should go when Cashner is brought up, and who will probably go. Maybe they are the same person…..
Also did Z deserve to be returned to the rotation?
Rotation? Z needs a shrink. There. I said it.
I like the guy and I hope he does well, but he’s kind of a loose cannon and he needs some help. His latest incident with the hospital—he said it was something that he ate or something like that? Sheesh.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Who do I think should go?
I put it in the recap: Grabow to the DL.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I agree with you.....But this team does not do that all the time....see ARam.
So who goes assuming Grabow stays active?
I am thinking that they are thinking Grabow anyways
I seen Lou’s face during the game after Grabow gave up the 2 HR’s and he looked pissed. Anyways Cashner got sent to the pen in Iowa anyways to get him prepped just in case he goes to the big leagues this year. They are definately aware of the situation, and will take care of it soon….I hope.
by alabamacubbie on May 30, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that the lineup should be
Against RHP
Castro SS
Byrd CF
Fontenot 2B
Soriano LF
Lee 1B
Colvin RF
Soto C
Tracy 3B
Against LHP
Castro SS
Byrd CF
Lee 1B
Soriano LF
Colvin RF
Soto C
Baker 3B
Theriot 2B
In writing this I may regret this but I am tired of this helicopter BS swinging of Fukudomes, and I when I did write this I am assuming they are sending Ramirez to the DL and calling up Tracy. Many may disagree with me, but the speed Castro has got he needs to be at the top somewhere. I know he’s an RBI producer with they way he can hit, but we need his speed on the bases early, that is only my opinion. Colvin can platoon with Nady, but I definately think he needs more playing time ASAP, and Fukudome is used to riding the bench, as he did last year, so it won’t hurt him to be out a few days and PH.
by alabamacubbie on May 30, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
fontenot hitting third?
excuse my giggles, please
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 30, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee's currently hitting 3rd
you must be laughing your ass off
by alabamacubbie on May 30, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i am
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 30, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
@Jesus Christos
He batter third in 2007, when Lee was suspended. Did OK too. It would be real funny if Lou were to bat him cleanup just once, because that is the one position he never hit in.
I have advocated for Castro
as leading off for quite some time. But let’s be honest, Lou will continue to do what he has been doing. He’s in his bunker mentality same as Baker and Baylor before him. Never admit a mistake and continue doing what he’s been doing while hoping that slumping pitchers and hitters magically revert back to their career year.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Bird 2nd??????
I love Marlon but he is a strikeout machine. You do NOT want to bat him 2nd. Colvin is not going to take over from Dome every day. I would let EITHER of them bat 2nd over Byrd. Fonty would not be bad at the 2 spot either, but you have to have someone with some friggin patience at the plate.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 30, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Byrd has batted 2nd this year, and has done well when he has
When he bat’s 5th he doesn’t do as well. It makes more sense to bat him 2nd. The Colvin thing, I think that he should play just as much as Fukudome. He is more dependable, and is more productive. If Fukudome was to be just a little more productive than Colvin, I would still start Colvin. I want to win this year, while thinking about the future, and Colvin is the future RF.
by alabamacubbie on May 31, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll believe there are "changes" when I see them.
Until then….
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 30, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Look up in the sky
Is it a bird
Is it a plane
No, it’s Lou’s changes
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Stopped a big rally?
With two outs and the pitcher coming up to face Wainwright? You have to send Ramirez there no question.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on May 30, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Sun-Times runs a story about how messed up Ramirez's thrumb is and he is still hitting 4th???????????????
Guy batting .160 is having to alter his grip on the bat and the manager puts him in the lineup hitting cleanup. That is well past incompetent. Plus this will end up killing him all year, like Soriano last year.
Jim...in his infinite wisdom.....
likes to hire guys who get “good numbers” at garbage time…you know…when the season is over….
So I suspect when the Cubs go 4-5 on this road trip and are about 8 or 9 back even for the wild card…and the 4th of July is upon us…..D Lee and A Ram will step it up
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
If the Cubs go 4-5 on the road trip, KC,
I’ll give $20 to your favorite charity. If they go better than that, you give $20 to mine.
Deal?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Deal
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
.....I hope I pay.....
But how about we both pay if the go 5-4 since you were so confident of 6-3???
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
Please point out my confidence about 6-3
Find it. I dare you.
If they go 4-5 or worse, I’ll pay. They go 5-4 or better, you pay.
What’s your favorite charity? Mine is the American Cancer Society.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps I was confusing post somewhere else...
There’s a couple about 6/9 on the road trip…..pick from the United Way or A legit Lukemia research charity…..I can’t think of the specific one we donate to off the top of my head.
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
I'll go with Leukemia
We’ll be on the honor system. I trust you, I hope you trust me. If not, you know who to ask to jerk my chain about it. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 31, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
It was Al's response to you....
n/t
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
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"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue." - George F. Will
by Slakkr on May 30, 2010 5:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
ee cummings?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
uncontrollable giggling?
PTS?
they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)
my bad
Lee looked pretty lifeless out there today- he may need to be rested tom in Pitt
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue." - George F. Will
by Slakkr on May 30, 2010 5:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Pretty latharic effort
and why didn’t they walk Pujols every damn time?! Cripes almighty.
they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)
oh you don't want to know lol!
they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)
Pretty sure thats
Emelie for “lethargic”
but I could be wrong.
Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden
Al, when was the last time you heard a woman say
“I’ve been to the doctor and… um… I’ve got something to tell you…”?
they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)
You would?
In a tie game in the bottom of the ninth, you’d walk him with the bases loaded? Intentionally?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Well, he did say
every time, Al. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
They should...there isn't any other fearsome hitters
in that line up….for crap sakes…the cards are even less efficient at scoring their baserunners than the Cubs…..
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
I think Lou iw just trying to get the big guys going. If the Cubs are going to contend
we need Lee & Ramirez to produce. They won’t bust out of their slumps on the bench. I agree it’s driving most of us nuts, but there essential to our club.
There's a point
Where you can’t just keep trotting Rammy out there. Tracy is tearing up AAA, and probably gives us a better chance to win games right now, so why not DL Aramis and try to ride this hot streak Tracy is on?
by Dcr18 on May 30, 2010 5:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
OK I found the replay on line
And Ramirez did appear to run on contact and in all fairness he was running hard. The throw was up the line a little bit, and the Cardinals’ broadcasters thought it was going to be late, but it ended up being perfectly placed.
But I agree that ARam should have a break and we should see what Tracy can do.
But you don't hit them 3rd and 4th while they are still struggling
Let them bust out hitting 6-7 and give your team a better chance to score while they are figuring things out.
And putting Ramirez in 4th while he is hurt is past stupid, it’s criminal.
It's starting to be that time.....
where “it’s a little too litle too late now” time
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
After yet another terrible outing today,
I don’t see how they could possibly justify sending down Russell and leaving grabow on the team. Hopefully grabow is on the dl by tomorrow afternoon after cashner is called up
by Dcr18 on May 30, 2010 5:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
i dont enjoy saying this but
grabow still sucks
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
Dear Chicago Cubs
Thank you for waking up the human hitting machine. Obviously, you guys just made us have a better chance of beating the Cardinals. You guys just gave us another reason for to continue to hate on you guys. I hope your season burns into a pile of ashes, and that another 100 years of woe will be placed on you guys.
Sincerely,
The Cincinnati Reds National League
by braziliancubsfan on May 30, 2010 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
Ramirez out at the plate
Not running on contact with 2 outs? If true, that’s as bad as MB throwing the second out into the stands last year if he really didn’t grasp the situation.
When the TV feed went to the replay of the play at the plate, they cut it off in the ballpark – we just saw an advertising slide. Is there still some rule about not showing replays of close plays? I’m not finding it online now either – would like to see that again.
They can't show replays like that on video boards.
But I don’t think that applies to posting them online. I thought he was clearly out, but it sure didn’t look like was running very hard, either.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I did find the replay online
(as noted in a mis-placed reply above) – but it did look (to me) like ARam was running on contact and was running hard. The throw had to be just so to get him, but it was.
It was on an MLB video highlight early in the game. Looked like he got tagged out.
Also looked like he wasn’t running very hard (as Al said).
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Al, gotta disagree on one thing
game essentially over, since Adam Wainwright was giving the Cubs nothing.
Ramirez should have scored on that single in the 2nd, and the Cubs loaded the bases in the 4th with 1 out, and Castro grounded into the DP on the first pitch he saw. That was the games turning point. The next inning the Cards got 3. Demp might have changed his approach, especially to Pujols, if it was a 2-2 game when he came to the plate.
Wainwright was hittable today giving up a bunch of hits and a few walks. A good offense would have made him pay when he got into trouble in the 2nd and 4th, but the Cubs still lack serious consistency at the dish.
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on May 30, 2010 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, you're right.
I did forget to mention Castro’s AB. That was a really bad AB with the bases loaded. He should have taken at least a couple of pitches.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
That said
I still love the kid. A couple more hits today. He’ll learn, and gives us hope for the future. Fonty and Theriot should platoon at 2nd.
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on May 30, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
How’s he going to learn if they tell him how to handle every at-bat?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 31, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Taking pitches
doesn’t necessarily result in a better outcome. If the pitch is a pitchers strike (or worse, a ball), then the kids gotta work on being patient with those. If the pitch is what he’s looking for in the place he’s looking for it, then taking the pitch isn’t a good idea.
I didn’t see the AB yet so I don’t know which I think it was, but I don’t agree with taking pitches for the sake of taking pitches.
by Castro Por Presidente on May 30, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Normally I would agree
but the kid saw a first pitch fastball that was belt high and down the middle. Unfortunately, he didn’t put his best swing on the ball.
by Northside Matt on May 30, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Demp might have changed his approach, especially to Pujols
I’m pretty sure the scouting book on Pujols says “belt-high hanging sliders”.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on May 30, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
When will the league figure out they should NEVER pitch to the guy with men on base…or essentially ever! 4 IBB’s in the game instead of 3 jacks, and it’s a different story.
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on May 30, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Dempster has had a knack lately for giving up game-changing homers
with two outs, often with two strikes. He did it in Pittsburgh, he did it in Philadelphia, he did it in Cincinnati and he did it today.
He pitched very well the other night against the Dodgers, but he’s got to stop making that one bad pitch in critical situations.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
And we actually have to win games
This team has yet to be over .500 this season.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
I'm wondering if we will ever reach .500 this season.
Not sure.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
And, if Dempster gets the job done in PIT-PHL-CIN
the Cubs are likely at .500 right now.
And yes, the Cubs will get over .500, probably sooner than later.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
If we could just clone Carlos Silva
We’d be doing a lot better.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
Never thought
either of us would say that.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, maybe not at PHL
but the other two games could have been in the Cubs’ pockets.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
It would also be nice if the Cubs could score some early runs for him. That might solve a lot of problems.
I'm not sure if it would make a difference
Especially on a day like today.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
Agree!
It would also be nice if the Cubs could score some early runs for him. That might solve a lot of problems.
Maybe, but
he had his fate in his own hands in those three road games, and he blew it. I’ll defend it once or twice, but …
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
If he had more run support,
He wouldn’t have to worry about giving up game-changing home runs.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 30, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
BS, VCF
I love how everybody tars and feathers half the roster but they don’t want to do it for Dempster. Why? Because he’s a funny guy?
BS. BS, BS, BS.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not an ace....
quit expecting him to be one.
Guys like Carp and Wainright do stuf like you describe…the Cubs don’t have starting pitchers like that…. The Cub GM values “long haul” pitchers over aces……
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
hahaha nice
Look on the bright side: At least when Dempster gave up his backbreaking home run, he did it in the 5th and not in the 8th. Baby steps.
That being said, what the hell was he doing throwing 125 pitches? Was it an especially hot day, cause if so that exacerbates the situation.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on May 30, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That being said, what the hell was he doing throwing 125 pitches? Was it an especially hot day, cause if so that exacerbates the situation.
im not sure how many times demp has thrown more than 110 pitches this season, but im sure its a lot
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by jesus christos on May 30, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
The bullpen
still was burned up after Friday’s game. And is even shorter, because Z isn’t available until his start.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a good point
I had already forgotten about Friday’s game. Probably for the best.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on May 30, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
when life seems jolly rotten
we can always look on the bright side of life
they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)
LOL
Holy Jeebus, I see your point…
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Exactly right
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
by eths on May 31, 2010 1:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I had a feeling that Pujols was gonna have a big series.
Turns out he had a huge game
by braziliancubsfan on May 30, 2010 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
Albert Pujols had only 3 homeruns in May
He matched that in one day against the Cubs.
by braziliancubsfan on May 30, 2010 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
Dempsters kinda hard headed
just my opinion. He thinks he can get anybody out at anytime. Maybe thats norm for pitchers. Maybe an experienced catcher would have had a talk with Demps with the Pujols at bat?
The fifth inning Demp should
of been told by Lou to put him on. On the 7th pitch of the ab, put him on. Hitters see that many pitches, and especially a hitter like Albert, they are locked on. Walk him should of been the call from the dugout.
Dempster to the bullpen
He’s been there before.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
Chicago Cubs:
where other teams’ (previously) trustworthy relievers come to die.
by Castro Por Presidente on May 30, 2010 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
Pardon me for this little bit of complaining.
When it’s apparent during a particular season that there’s little chance for the postseason, I at least hope the Cubs have the chance to take all the series against the Cardinals.
Cubs, can you please at least take MOST of them this year, and not have any more games like this one? (rakum frakum Deadbirds, rakum frakum Pujols! I hate that man…)
I'd differ with the first part of your opening sentence,
but otherwise, I agree. I despise the Cardinals with the heat of 1,000 suns.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd love to be proven wrong, I assure you.
I’m just being pessimistic to protect my emotions, I guess.
I agree
Even when I throttle back my expectations for a Cubs season, I can’t give up the hope that they beat the Cards in the season series. They have to play the Cards hard, and over the years, some really bad Cubs teams have taken the season series. I remember Barry Bonds propelling them to a win in the season series in one of his last seasons, must have been 80 or 81, since I remember sitting on a ratty couch in college watching them.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
no kidding
Damn it. When I was typing it, I was thinking Bobby all the way – I guess that I thought “not Barry” a little too hard. I hate Barry, but I love Bobby for his last year with the Cubs.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
I imagine the thrill I get from us dominating the Deadbirds...
is somewhat close to what it might be like to win a playoff series. That’s how much I enjoy it.
Shocking that a .500 team loses a series with the two stoppers pitching
Make of it all whatever you want, but here’s the thing:
The Cardinals Pitching:
Carpenter & Wainwright
The Cubs Pitching:
??
The Cardinals HItting:
Pujols & Holliday
The Cubs Hitting:
??
it’s pretty obvious when you actually look at things….
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by Gibbon Jockey on May 30, 2010 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
In fairness, GJ,
I think most teams would have lost those games, not just the Cubs.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I know...
Peopple act like we didnt just face carp and wainwright…yea, it sucks that we lost. But it isn’t the end of the world, orseason. We faced couple of tough pitchers
by bilbosbuttons on May 30, 2010 7:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Padres
were busy taking 2 of 3 from the Cardinals prior to this series.
In games 1 and 2 of the series, Padres pitching gave up 1 run in 18 innings, winning 1-0 and 2-1.
It seems the 99-cent-store payroll Padres can beat the Cardinals. This is very frustrating.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 30, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm aware of what the Padres did
against the Cardinals, SDSJM. I don’t think what the Cubs did against the Dodgers, Rangers, Phillies and Rockies is outweighted by what they didn’t do this weekend.
I guess you forgot about yesterday’s victory?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Those games were in Petco.
A slightly different hitting environment, as noted by your pointing out the scores — Padres only scored three runs in 18 innings in those games.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yea...but his point is....
the Cubs don’t even have any players that can match up and make it competitive
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
Well
It’s a good thing it’s not a 4 man game. I’ll take the Cubs’ deeper lineup anyday.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on May 31, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I’d take the Cardinals’ record. The Cubs’ “deep lineup” isn’t doing so well in the scoring runs category.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 31, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And their pitchers step up ....
and get outs when needed
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
You are absolutely correct NBF
And I already know, “It’s only May”….not that that’s one of your arguments, that’s not what I’m saying….
The point is that 25% of the season is gone, and playoff-caliber teams find a way to win this series. This team got steamrolled by the other teams big pitchers and big hitter(s).
Who do the Cubs have in any spot that can do that?
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by Gibbon Jockey on May 30, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ho Hum another day at the office for Lou
Theriot sitting at a robust .633 OPS hits .258 against Wainright, Fontenot hitting at a .886 OPS, hits .353 against Wainright and Fontenot sits.
Byrd has dropped 38 points in his batting average since May 17th and Colvin can’t get a start against a tough righthander.
Ramy continues to struggle, Tracy hitting .480 in the minors.
Who knows what is up with Grabow. If they send Russell down, it is obvious Lou and Hendry don’t give a crap about winning.
Z is starting, Z is in the Pen, Z is starting. Cashner is starting now in the pen. Jay Jackson is starting, then in the pen, now is starting.
Wow, what a wonderful year. It is Memorial day.
To all who have served and are serving have a wonderful Memorial Day.
Z is getting stretched out....
Z pitches one inning. Just wanted to add to the absurdity.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on May 30, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Um, he pitched a simulated game Monday
70 pitches or so.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
So we can add a mental midget to the starting staff ....
of soft "2"’s and srong “3”;s…..
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
No, it sure doesn't.
Looks like it would lend itself to a platoon situation.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Well, Lou hinted at changes postgame today
We’ll see what that entails.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Well goodness gracious
we hear changes every other week from Lou. We hear Colvin is going to start 3 days a week. What about Ramy? .160 for goodness sake, It is June Lou, not March in Mesa.
The guy is off his rocker, he is toast.
I'm so glad
fans don’t manage teams or run them.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
So what your saying
is Byrd should be run out there everyday since he has only dropped close to 40 points in average in 2 weeks? Ramy is beat, and is struggling so keep running him out there almost everyday. As noted today on TBS our 3, 4, 5 hitters, not one of those spots is hitting over.230, however Lou keeps pencilling in Ramy and Lee in those same spots.
You have Theriot who is 100 points lower against Wainright then Fontenot and Lou sits Fontenot who is raking the ball right now.
It is Funny NBF you make those same comments everytime " I glad fans don;t run this team" Well you now what the fans here could run this team better, hell my 15 year old daughter could. The phrase is getting old, come up with something new. Goodness keep telling yourself everything is fine with that man in the dugout. Good Luck.
Come up with something new?
I could say the same thing to you and all your acolytes who bitch every day about the lineup, regardless of what it says.
Simply put, if Lee and Ramirez aren’t going to hit, this team isn’t likely to win. Period. And they’re more likely to get out of a slump by playing than by not playing.
You guys always are in love with whoever isn’t playing, not whoever is. Last year it was Fox and Hoffpauir. This year it’s Colvin and now its Fontenot? The guy everybody wanted to get rid of a few weeks ago?
The fact is no, Grock, you or your 15-year-old daughter, God bless her, couldn’t run this team better than Lou. The onus is on the players.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Memo for record
I was never in Fox and Hoffpauir corner. Never. I never wanted to get rid of Fontenot. and yes I have been on Colvin for more ab’s since day one.
And you will never convince me that Lou is doing an average job, he is doing a poor job. And yes the players especially Ramy and Lee must produce, but this manager is not getting it done.
This conversation will continue until Oct. 3rd I fear.
what would have been wrong with playing Fontenot TODAY ...
considering Theriot’s bad numbers against Wainright and Fontenot’s hot day Saturday? Seems pretty simple to me.
That one, on the face, seems odd
I don’t know what else might have gone into the decision. I suppose if one of the reporters there thought it was important, they would have asked.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
These are the types of decisions Lou KEEPS making.
And, frankly, I’m not willing to give him the benefit of the he-knows-more-than-we-do doubt anymore, NBF.
I think this is one of those situations where...
…you throw up your hands and say something new has to be tried. Whether it’s firing Lou or planning for next year, something has to be done. I’d rather not flush the season down the toilet at this point, but if Lou isn’t replaced, it very well could be.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
When do you expect them to start hitting.....???
I’d say about the time it becomes unreasonable to expect the Cubs to contend….Lee and Ramierez will start hitting
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
Good point NBF
And Rec’d. The cries get more and more desperate – on the game thread today, people were saying that Colvin had to learn to play first base, Colvin had to learn to play third base. I am sure that the players would love to work in the environment imagined by this crowd.
It is great to see Castro and Colvin offering hope for the future. But in reality, they are two guys who could be a part of the solution, but they are not going to replace the presence of something like the Lee and Ramirez that we expected.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Oh one more thing
what is your solution to this underachieving team? I guess just stay the course eh?
No kidding
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Lou's changes
rarely last more than 1 game.
So don’t get your hopes up about LASTING changes.
Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden
@kanderber
Lou is getting tired of his sulking. He may be benched.
Grabow looked terrible in September
He looked terrible in spring training and he’s looked terrible all year. The fact it is almost June and he is still pitching is incomprehensible
Sounds like a Dr. Seuss rhyme
with the ridiculousness of his pitching it’s no surprise.
they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)
Here's a question ...
with the Cubs down 4-0 in the bottom of the fifth, was it wise to let Dempster hit to lead off the inning? I know he got through the sixth without incident, but I would have pinch-hit with Fontenot to try to get something going and grab some momentum. Maybe I’m wrong … ?
That said, today’s lineup was just appalling. I would have seriously considered sitting Theriot, Lee and Ramirez. Instead, Lou hits them 2-3-4.
No you pull Dempster
for a pinch hitter . Gotta wonder what the heck goes thru Lou’s mind . My 8 yr old niece who is a huge fan even wondered why Dempster came to the plate . The game was 4-0 at that point ….
UGH.
Tough one today. Even harder to watch it because I was there today. 41,000 people there and the Cardinals fans were louder than us Cubs fans, unfortunately. Those HRs and failed Cubs RBI spots really sucked all of the life out of us.
Oh, well.
The Reds lost today, so just put it behind us!
This is another key stretch for the Cubs….gotta pound the Pirates, Astros, and Brewers. No f-ing around with these teams ANY MORE. Period.
On a side note, I wish baseball was like softball and they could just throw the same pitcher everyday…because if it were possible, I’d throw Mr. Silva out there every day!
A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.
I thought about
asking the hosts at the cookout I was at to flip the radio over to the game for a while.
God am I glad I didn’t. :-P
Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden
I saw BLou at the game today.
He was in the TBS broadcasting booth, doing PR for the Cardinals all game long.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 30, 2010 10:00 PM CDT reply actions
This game was lost when the lineup card was handed in.
A-Ram yet again at clean up and Theriot yet again batting 2nd. Fonty & Colvin on the bench. 3 triples in two days. WTF does Fontenot have to do to get in the lineup and how bad does A-Ram have to be before Lou stops playing him every day? Theriot has the OBP FROM hell and should not be playing every day and NEVER EVER at the front of the lineup.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on May 30, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions
Theriot has the OBP FROM hell and should not be playing every day and NEVER EVER at the front of the lineup.
but..
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 30, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
...but what, Jesus?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
he was so good in 08...
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 30, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
LOU!
So Lou is going to make some lineup changes! Wow – I’m in the belief that a change in the Manager wouldn’t hurt either. The players lack drive and by the looks and actions of Lou – the lack of player action and drive is an extension of what I see coming from Lou! Looks like he’s asleep most ot the time that we could be using a little action from the manager. He even looks half dead on the trip to the mound. If you’re at the point in your life where the fire to manage is gone Lou – do us all a favor and hit the road – fresh managerial blood might be what the Cubs need and they certainly need something!
by oldmanmoose on May 30, 2010 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Someone's going to have to make my flag when the Cubs win tomorrow.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 30, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
Did you see the "L" flag
some Cardinal fan held up at the end of the game?
they sure know how to rub it in.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on May 30, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
should have just posted this in response
it kills the blues…
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
by jesus christos on May 30, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I personally prefer....
A certain piece of police video…but we won’t go there….
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
I turned the game off after a while.
Couldn’t take the PR for the Cardinals coming from The Bad Station.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 31, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I've had enough
Not with the Cubs, but with this site. Far too depressing.
I’ve discovered I like the Cubs a lot more than I like most Cubs fans.
I’m going to try to make myself more scarce around here, but BCB is like crack cocaine. You just can’t stay away from it. But I’m going to try, at least until the team starts winning sufficiently enough for everybody. Which, judging from the reactions here, will be the 12th of never.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 30, 2010 11:30 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Do us all a favor
We have all been putting up with your shit for way too long. It never changes with you, you show up after a cubs loss and tell everybody how to feel about it. It’s slways the same with you, you must be one of those cub fans who has been conditioned to losing over the years and this is your way of dealing with it. Good riddance!
by TheRamZamDLEE on May 31, 2010 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wallow in your own pity
You’re exactly the kind of jerk who makes this site so depressing sometimes.
I’m here win or lose. You must have me confused with the other idiots who only show up when the Cubs lose. Or maybe you’re one of them yourself.
Go fly a kite.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 31, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey guys, just chill.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
by eths on May 31, 2010 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 31, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
I just think with the season two months in, closing in on a third of the season, and the idea of “standing pat” with Ramy and Lee is running hallow.
Changes need to be made and unfortunately the Cubs do not have a manager to make them. So NBF you will have your way, and I guess we will see what happens.
by Grockcubs on May 31, 2010 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
This is the first series they’ve lost in two weeks and OH NO!! The sky is falling again!!! Run for your lives!!!
COL 2-0
PHI 1-1
TEX 2-1
LAD 2-1
Then they have to face two of the best pitchers in baseball and lose and the un-merry go round starts up agian. It’s pathetic how predictable the reactions are around here.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on May 31, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree Al.
Yesterday they looked like world-beaters; today, after the first couple of innings, they looked like they were just waiting for the bus to the airport.
Their body language said they had given up.. and many played like it.
I was still dumb enough to be watching the game in the 9th and couldn’t believe they didn’t either walk Pujols immediately or just plunk him in his left glute with the first pitch. I was screaming for the latter.
When he hit his 3rd dinger, I just shook my head at the absurdity of this this team…and the fact I was still watching hoping for a 9th inning Cubs rally.
Which is sadder?
Tomorrow is June 1st. It’s no longer ‘early’. This team has shown clearly that they cannot/will not consistently contend this season. I’m all for being optimistic, but the only thing they have shown us they CAN sustain is their INconsistency.
Saying the division/league is weaker and the NL has no ‘super teams’ and that, as a result, the Cubs can still make the playoffs is a rather sad commentary.
I’ve held off on saying it, but this edition of the Cubs’ best days are behind them. This is NOT a fun team to watch.
I’m just hoping that the Cubs aren’t trailing the league by double-digits when we come for our games in late June/early July. But I wouldn’t bet on it…
Sigh.
''Lou's going to keep his job. We're going to go to the playoffs. You can mark the day I said it, today.'' - Marlon Byrd (Monday, May 17, 2010)
I was there yesterday. It was awful.
My husband who is normally fairly quiet decided to go on a crazy rant in the 9th inning about why didn’t they DO SOMETHING!? He went on and on and while I agreed with much of what he said, I highly doubt the people around us understood that when he was saying they should have been throwing inside and at Puhols head that he meant simply to brush him back. He was furious and couldn’t comprehend why they allowed the guy to dig in and get so comfortable. But…he wouldn’t shut up about it and got mad at me when I tried to shush him. To the people around us he must have sounded like a maniac that wanted to mame. It was just embarrassing…especially because there were Cardinal fans in front of us at the time one of which was about 10. I mean why give them more reason to hate Cub fans? Ugh.
He also booooed Ramirez and was infuriated that the crowd hasn’t gotten on his case yet. Everyone is so quick to boo Soriano or Grabow, while Ramirez is up there batting effen cleanup with a buck sixty seven. He was on a mission to send a message and was the sole booer in our section. Oh, he was in fine form yesterday. Evidently this game was a last straw of sorts for him. Like I said, normally he’s a really good, quiet guy. This game just brought out all the pent up anger and kaboom. I really wish I wouldn’t have been there to see it.
To leave this on a better note there was one thing cool at this game. They released an eagle to soar above the field before the game and that was quite a beautiful sight. Thanks to all who have served and/or are serving our country!
"And away we go..."-Pat Hughes
I think your husband and I would get along quite well.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
He's really quite a great guy
and to be honest I would have found his rant amusing had that 10 yr. old not been there to witness it. It was embarassing in front of our kids as well, but they are 18 and accustomed to a lot worse and that’s more MY fault than his. :)
"And away we go..."-Pat Hughes
I agree with dtpollitt. Your husband seems like he feels like I do.
Enough is enough. It’s May 31st already.
''Lou's going to keep his job. We're going to go to the playoffs. You can mark the day I said it, today.'' - Marlon Byrd (Monday, May 17, 2010)
If they are still stinking up the joint when we come in late June/early July,
my rant won’t hold a candle to the one Mrs. Zeke will throw.
''Lou's going to keep his job. We're going to go to the playoffs. You can mark the day I said it, today.'' - Marlon Byrd (Monday, May 17, 2010)
Ha!
My rant will probably have Mr. Casey beat too. I’ll probably be foaming at the mouth.
"And away we go..."-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on May 31, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You know
it really isn’t Ramirez’s fault. Lou is the one putting him in the cleanup spot under the circumstances. I’d be willing to bet that at some time there will be a press release putting him on the DL and claiming he’s been injured all year.
I guarantee your hubby had a ton of Cub fans venting the same way in front of their TV. This year will be a long one, I fear. I just hope the powers that be recognize the futility of a playoff spot if it occurs and begin bringing up the troops from the minors. In honesty, that’s my most reasonable hope for the year.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Grabow to DL!!
Acc. to Bruce Levine it’s a done deal Al happy Memorial Day!
Now can he take Aramis Ramirez with him?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
"To [Vermont Cubs Fan], good luck, stay strong!"
-Captain Richard Phillips-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 31, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
It's aboutfreakingtime.
Should have been done three weeks ago.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I've never understood that players, who are hurting, are not put on the DL much faster.
Soriano’s attempt to play through his knee injury last year was a disaster, just to name an example.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Because (shhhh) Grabow isn't *really* hurting.
This is an NBA injured-list type of transaction. We don’t have any better options available to us, and Grabow recently missed a couple of games with a minor injury, so what’s the harm in giving him an extended stint on the DL while we all wait and hope that Cashner is awesome at MLB?
As soon as we need another LH reliever due to injury or ineffectiveness, Grabow’s knee problems will resolve themselves and he’ll be reactivated. And, in all likelihood, will continue to stink.
The problem is that the Cubs can’t bear the thought of paying $5M of the $5.5M left on his deal over the next two years while someone else keeps him at the minimum salary – even if we all know that he’s going to be a failure wherever he goes.
The recent knee soreness gives us a fig leaf of plausibility for putting him on the DL. And there he will stay.
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So wait.
You’re saying the MRI Grabow had on his knee three weeks ago was faked? And there really isn’t a knee problem? How do you know this?
What bothers me more is that this knee problem apparently has been going on for a long time — based on the MRI three weeks ago — and he should have gone on the DL then.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Maybe the MRI didn't show enough of a problem to warrant the DL at the time
and now that they want to this gives them the excuse they need to put him there. IDK-seems like they do a lot of things to pamper these guy’s egos.
"And away we go..."-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on May 31, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
No, the MRI certainly took place. And showed that his knee had no problems.
It’s the headline of your link, Al!
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Let's look at that link again.
Headline: Grabow’s MRI on knee reveals no damage
Ah, but as we know, headlines aren’t always 100% accurate.
Body of article:
The MRI revealed nothing structurally wrong
And from that you deduce there were “no problems”? Congratulations, you must be an orthopedic surgeon.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Lou Is Senile, Part #2302457599
Can somebody please tell me why, in the top of the 7th inning, Lou left Dempster in? With one out, Ludwick doubled. Take out Dempster to have someone new face Pujols? Nope. IBB, Dempster. Alright, I’m fine with that. Let Dempster throw four balls, then take him out? Nope. Leave him in to face Holliday, who had already singled twice. What’s Holliday do? Single to right, run scores, Lou lets Dempster throw 125 pitches.
Dan
Disclaimer: You can forget all the “Lou has crapped more baseball knowledge than you have” stories, I don’t care.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
yes
I thought that Lou would take out Dempster after the IBB, too. It seemed like the right time.
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this month
we have games against the brewers pirates,astros sox and mostly sub 500.teams if we cant turn things around in june then we might as well start singing wait till next year. oh yeah almost forgot we are a sub 500. team too. i thought this was better than this.
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