is that Lou and Ozzie are by far and away the managers with most negative reps. Nobody else comes close. You can basically throw 26 of the other 28 in a hat, as nobody seems to have any real negative vibes. LaRussa and Dusty are VERY slightly higher than the others, probably the result of having been around so long…you are bound to make a few enemies when you have been managing as long as they have.

But, the fact the 2/3rds of the players surveyed listed either Ozzie or Lou is the real eye opener here. Everything else is noise level.

How do you arrive at THAT conclusion?

how much Lou’s reputation as a tough manager to play for was based on his tenures with the Reds, Mariners and Rays.

I remember when he was introduced as the Cubs manager, he stated that his experience working as a TV analyst had changed his perspective and that he felt he would be a different type of manager.

I have definitely seen that. People complain that he isn’t fiery enough. I think the fire still burns, but I think Lou has more of a “big picture” perspective than he had before.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/gallery/featured/GAL1157450/1/index.htm

but I believe a manager affects the team in a limited way, and what if Roy Halladay refused to consider a trade to the Cubs in the past few months simply because of Lou? The point is that a manager doesn’t bring THAT much to the table, and certainly not enough to counteract the limiting of free agents and trade targets for a team with money to spend like the Cubs.

All that said, this poll does less to impact how I view Lou than how Lou treats young players and bullpen pitchers.

I heard a comment about him once that I think puts it in perspective. The comment was to the effect that here were only two times that his players liked him: after their careers were over and the days they win Stanley Cups.

I kind of the like the Connie Mack style. Also, I remember reading about a manager from years ago who opted to wear a suit while managing his team because he felt it wasn’t appropriate for him to wear a baseball uniform since he had never been a player. Wish I could remember who it was and the team he managed. May have been 1890s or early 1900s.

They may not like Milton, but they’re personally offended at Lou’s POS designation for B.

I am sure they are just pussycats who coddle their players. General consenus of feedback you read from players is that
Ozzie is a raging lunatic who has no problem ripping his players in the media and Lou is a distant hard ass who does not communicate much at all with players ( not to mention not remembering their names).