No Sweep, Please: Cubs vs. White Sox Preview, Sunday 6/13, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jun 13, 2010 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintTonight's game will be the 75th between the Cubs and White Sox since interleague play began in 1997; the White Sox lead the all-time series to date 39-35.
In that time there have been five individual series sweeps:
Cubs, 1998; White Sox, 1999; Cubs, 2004; Cubs, 2007; White Sox, 2008.
The only one of those that occurred on enemy turf was the Cubs' three-game sweep on the South Side in 2007. The White Sox have never swept a series at Wrigley Field.
Enough. Stop the losing streak. Win tonight.
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Lineup via tweet from Carrie:
#Cubs lineup Sun nite is 2b riot, rf colvin, cf byrd, 1b lee, lf sori, 3b tracy, c hill, ss castro, p lilly
Gavin Floyd is having a rough year, although he pitched well in his last start against the Tigers. He has faced the Cubs only once, on June 18, 2009 at Wrigley Field. Both Floyd and Carlos Zambrano threw well that day, but neither was involved in the decision, a 6-5 Cubs win. What's most interesting about that boxscore -- a game from less than a year ago -- is how many players for both teams in that game who are no longer with the team they played for then (13 in all, if you're counting).
Ted Lilly has ten career starts vs. the White Sox and is 5-2, but with a 5.94 ERA. Most of those starts were while he was an AL pitcher with Toronto and Oakland; only two of them, one in 2007 and one in 2008, have been since Ted became a Cub. In those two starts, Ted has a win and a no-decision and a 3.95 ERA. Paul Konerko has three career HR in 21 AB vs. Ted -- yet another reason to not let Konerko beat the Cubs tonight.
Today's game is on ESPN. If you like, start a pool as to what time Joe Morgan will state a "fact" about the Cubs that is false. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today, although all the games should be almost over by now.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation White Sox site South Side Sox.
Today's first pitch thread will be up at 7 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 8, 9 and 9:45 pm CDT. Apologies for yesterday's overflows; there was a posting time error made by me. Today's will post at the proper times.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Note to Cubs Hitters
1 for 3 makes a good batting average. 1 for 3 in series does not make a good winning percentage. Please stop confusing the two.
"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas
Gotta start somewhere or somtime
Tonight could be a start in the right direction. Lets hope so.
Need a "W" in the worst way...
May the bats come alive tonight and may Lilly hit all his spots. Cubs win 7-1…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Just gonna sit back with a cup of coffee and homemade cheesecake and hope we win.
It’s getting harder and harder to “expect” wins as the season goes on. Just gotta relax, enjoy what [little] success there is, and hope for the best.
"Nothing can happen till you swing the bat."
-Haruko Haruhara
by windycitywarrior on Jun 13, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
At least the White Sox are gonna take the BP cup home.
I don’t want that filth.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Whoops, forgot about that part.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Didn't both teams get a series sweep at home in 2008?
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
Yeah I thought that too.
We swept at Wrigley and they swept at the Cell. I was suppose to win a large bet if they could have won 1 of 3.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Was that the year Derrek Lee had a PH Grand Slam at Wrigley?
Or was that the year prior?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
"He has a gift. And his gift is Mario Kart." Troy Brouwer talking about Niklas Hjalmarsson, the day before the Chicago Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup.
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 13, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong,
But didn’t the Cubs sweep the White Sox at Wrigley Field in 2008? I went to Game 2 of that series, so I should know.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions
You are correct.
You can't win in the postseason unless you can manufacture runs. - Hall of Fame 2B Joe Morgan
thought the same thing
Cubs swept first then WS returned the favor.
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 13, 2010 5:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's sadder that the Cubs don't, either.
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
The Cubs don't care, either.
In fact, you probably care more than them.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
good point. i'm sure you're right. the difference is they get paid to not care.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Cmon Sue, you're our inspiration
hang in there!
The weather tonight is going to be awful.
I’m wondering if I should even go.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Whatever happens, happens
I’m only going to tune in to see the Hawks with the Stanley Cup at the game. After that I’ll probably tune it out………sad but true. Unless by some miracle the Cubs are doing well.
The collective sapped will of the Cubs fanbase
has to be taking the buzz out of this for Sox fans. How can you demoralize a fandom that’s already at rock bottom?
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
You better hope White Sox fans don't approach Cardinals fans with that question.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
How was the hike?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
"He has a gift. And his gift is Mario Kart." Troy Brouwer talking about Niklas Hjalmarsson, the day before the Chicago Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup.
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 13, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
What hike? I got rained out a second time.
It’s now on for June 26.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Well just picture the exchanges:
SOX FAN: The Cubs suck!
CUBS FAN: In other news, rain is wet.
SOX FAN: Lou Piniella’s an idiot!
CUBS FAN: Actually, that would be unfair to idiots.
SOX FAN: Don’t worry. The 103rd time’s a charm!
CUBS FAN: Worry is an emotion. I don’t do emotions anymore.
I mean, where’s the fun in that?
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
by Goodie1969 on Jun 13, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate to be a downer but....
…I think we’re going to get swept in this series. Will that be what it takes for you know who to get canned?
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
Firing is easy, replacing vastly more difficult.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
I did get some local help with the translation
I forgot to tell you that.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
NP - hope you got the information you needed.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
What's the odds Colvin's playing tonight?
Anyone see a lineup?
Hey fsuapollo
did the Noles end up beating Vandy?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
"He has a gift. And his gift is Mario Kart." Troy Brouwer talking about Niklas Hjalmarsson, the day before the Chicago Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup.
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 13, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody know..
if the pre-game Blackhawks ceremony will be on TV? What channel?
...What else is new?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
They probably won't.
It has nothing to do with Boston/New York sports.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Hill? Again?
Lou needs to be committed.
by bourbon_and_branch on Jun 13, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
Haven't you heard?
The Cubs have a winning record when he catches!
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
"He has a gift. And his gift is Mario Kart." Troy Brouwer talking about Niklas Hjalmarsson, the day before the Chicago Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup.
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 13, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Define "winning record".
I seem to have forgotten that phrase.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
BREAKING BAD FINALE TONIGHT
HEISENBERG IS BACK
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Just got home (c. 1:15AM) from celebrating Germany's first victory in the World Cup,
and hope that when the alarm goes off this morning at 6AM, that I will see a Cubs have produced a W!
Go Cubs!
Eamus Catuli
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
They looked fantastic
I mean, Australia is ancient, but the Germans just toyed with them for 90 minutes.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
"He has a gift. And his gift is Mario Kart." Troy Brouwer talking about Niklas Hjalmarsson, the day before the Chicago Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup.
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 13, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
True.
However, I believe the red card against Cahill was unnecessary, and a little excessive on the part of the referee.
I guess there’s a reason the guy who refereed that match is called “Little Dracula” in Mexico.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The general opinion here was: That red card was a joke.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
I was chatting with BCB member Azul Cachorro about that card.
Apparently, that referee is not a very good one in Mexico. Not only that, but he is also very controversial. He also has a reputation for being unnecessarily harsh on players in the matches he officiates.
The better referee from Mexico, Armando Benito Archundia, did not referee this game. He is generally regarded as one of the best referees from Mexico, but he is retiring after this World Cup.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Two tweets from @chilango2
ChiquiDracula loses his mind, as in every Mexican League game. He’s a joke of a ref. #aus #ger
and
@Brommmietze And feel sorry too for the Mexican teams who have to see this ref every week. He’s the worst.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Isn't that second one from you?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, I understand now.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, who is this "Vermont Cubs Fan" you speak of in your most recent tweet? ;-)
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno, did tweet something? ;-)
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Since I'm not on Twitter, I might have trouble doing that.
However, you did just say….
BP = “Beach Polluter” by Vermont Cubs Fan @ http://bit.ly/deC9AA 2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, yes I was referring to you, and the URL points to BCB
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Even if you click on the URL here,
It redirects to BCB.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
bit.ly is a service like tinyurl.com
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
My Germany friends, BTW, were very impressed by the US team against England.
Who knows, maybe Germany and the US will have to play each other later in the tournament, which will leave me a quandary who to root for.
Tonight is simple by comparison… ;-)
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
I'd be in that same boat,
Who to cheer for.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't everyone on that German team
except Ballack (who’s hurt) really young? If that’s the case, then they’ll be favorites in 2014 for sure. Hell, they might be the favorites in 2010.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
"He has a gift. And his gift is Mario Kart." Troy Brouwer talking about Niklas Hjalmarsson, the day before the Chicago Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup.
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 13, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
This time no, but they have a real chance. 2014? Who knows?
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
USA best hope they qualify for the Round of 16 as the winner of Group C.
Otherwise, it’s very likely we could be looking at a USA-Germany match.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
we havta "win out"
sigh, Cubs gotta win ALL remaining games to take the crosstown… do we even WANT that cursed cup? i dont have a good feelin this year…
on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown
To be honest,
I would prefer to lose the Beach Polluter’s Cup this year. Just because of who is sponsoring it.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
But you don't have to live in an area where BP's snafu is relevant
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
do you, ace?
I feel its relevant Aaaalll over, for sake of enviroment, n i’m no tree hugger…
on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown
Well, you have a point
But it’s closer to local news for me.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
Ace
I wasnt being sarcastic, i was just curious… i thought u mighta been a gulf resident… its bad stuff no matter where we live!
on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown
IF we won BP Cup
Could we melt it down and shove it in the pipe??? :] Funny one Vermont!
on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown
funny aint it...
All that wasted oil n gas prices going down… makesya wonder, dont it???
on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown
Caption: What do mean you mean, the guys don't want to score runs?
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
gotta go
Cubs game starting soon, i’m “dieting”… i eat, i watch cubs, I puke after the embarrassing losses… thus, dieting. Nite all
on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown
Cubs centric bulima is not very good for you,
let alone regular bulimia.
"Nothing can happen till you swing the bat."
-Haruko Haruhara
by windycitywarrior on Jun 13, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
haha...
were i actually dieting, it’d be the perfect plan!
on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown
They say a picture's worth a thousand words...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Very, very cool - Makes me feel jealous of the Hawks fans...
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
*Sigh* ... wish I could be there.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
From Twitter, more cool pics
http://tweetphoto.com/27122010
http://twitpic.com/1wlhfc
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Danke schon!
Will check them out later.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
That pisses me off
We’re missing the ceremony because of the MOFUs better known as ESPN………..arghhhhhhh
I bet they will show a replay some of it during the game
by LT on Jun 13, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
right inbetween the yankee and red sox highlights
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
I love Patrick Kane, that ugly son of a biscuit.
"It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man"~JR
by jesus christos on Jun 13, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
"woah look at jeter take 2 steps to his left to throw him out! hes quite possibly the greatest SS ever!"
Self-Proclaimed President of the Castro Boobird Face Kicking Club
I love Patrick Kane, that ugly son of a biscuit.
"It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man"~JR
by jesus christos on Jun 13, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Eastern Sport Pseudo-Network?
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Excessive Self-Promotion Network?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, June 12....
State high point count: 2/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 13, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No, the world wide leaders in sports
who don’t give a (blank) to any team but the east coasts one, especially New York
by braziliancubsfan on Jun 13, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
But I got to listen to the national anthem
which was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!
by braziliancubsfan on Jun 13, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
Mobile friendly jump, GO CUBS and guten Nacht
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Those darn facts...
The White Sox have never swept a series at Wrigley Field.
The Sox won 4 straight against the Cubbies in 1999, including sweeping the Cubbies at Wrigley.
Other than that sweep at Wrigley, the Sox have never swept the Cubbies at Wrigley.
"In time you can turn these obsessions into careers...Hurry Down Doomsday the bugs are taking over." - Elvis Costello
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Got this wrong. Must have been too early in the morning when I looked this stuff up.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
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