Dempster, Lee Lead Cubs To Win At Rain-Free Wrigley Field
The rain that had ruled Chicago for the last several days moved out yesterday, leaving pleasant conditions and mostly clear skies last night; the clouds hanging over the Cubs also cleared, if only for a day, and the result was a well-played 6-2 win over the Athletics.
Maybe it's just the optimist in me, but I still see a chance for the Cubs in what appears to be a weak Central division. Both the Reds and Cardinals lost last night, so the Cubs crept to within 6.5 games of those teams, who are currently tied for the division lead. The Cardinals have lost seven of their last ten. The Reds have lost six of their last nine. Neither is a juggernaut. To be fair, neither are the Cubs; yet after having seen last night's game, there is some hope, at least for me, that the Cubs can put together a five or six game winning streak and get back in this thing.
Derrek Lee homered -- the ball clanked off a stairway railing about four rows down and just to my right in the LF corner and bounced back onto the field -- and also singled and scored. The Cubs took advantage of runners in scoring position for what seemed to be the first time since... well, ever; only three men were left in scoring position and several key hits helped break the game open in the fifth inning. Two runners -- Geovany Soto at the plate in the second inning and Alfonso Soriano at third base after doubling in two runs in the fifth -- were thrown out on the bases, but neither was a TOOTBLAN; both were reasonable chances to take at the time and given the circumstances.
Ryan Dempster didn't have his best stuff and once again ran up a high pitch count (120), and Lou left him out there in the hope he'd finish the seventh inning, but it just couldn't quite happen; Dempster instead left to warm applause and Sean Marshall finished off that inning and the eighth.
The only critique I'd have of Lou last night is why he brought in Carlos Marmol in a non-save situation in the ninth; Andrew Cashner was also warming up in the eighth inning and it would have been a perfect time to let him throw the ninth in a relatively low-pressure situation. Marmol, though, was perfect: he threw eight pitches, all strikes, and so is certainly available if a save situation arises this afternoon.
Finally, props to Soriano for his perfectly executed bunt in the fourth inning, which helped lead to the Cubs' third run. He was credited with a sacrifice -- his first in a Cub uniform -- but it appeared he was bunting for a hit, and nearly got one. He left the field after the out to a standing ovation, well deserved.
The Cubs still have to be concerned about attendance figures. On a beautiful night, the crowd was a bit larger than Monday's -- 36,244, which appeared to be a legitimate number, pretty close to the actual count in the house -- but still 5,000 below capacity. A winning streak right now would help bring a few more people into the house, not to mention give a little hope in this weird National League season.
Let's win this series. The game preview will post at 11:30 am CDT.
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Missed the game
But great to wake up to a win!
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Same here: Waking up this morning and seeing the Cubs W is a great way to start a day
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Nice good morning then for you. I think you left when we were ahead I hope...
Either way it was a wonderful game to watch last night, Dempster wasn’t quite as good as he had been before, but still pitched a very good game. And defense! was like turning on a switch from last night…Baker played a solid 3rd, good plays all around.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions
No, I was asleep at about 1:30AM local - before the game started.
Heard the archive at work – hard to believe it was the same team as 20 hours earlier.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Yep it was definitely a Jekyll-Hyde-Jekyll when you add in the Lilly game before that.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I continually admire your optimism, Al
but I can’t get too excited over one game. If they could go on a solid 2-3 week run and show some life, maybe.
Agree on the Cards and Reds, though. They are very catchable, if the Cubs can catch fire
"For the charming if somewhat curious branch of mankind known as Cub fans, spring is a sanguine time.. Every spring holds the blithe hope that perhaps this is the season in which Satan will grow weary and ease up on the headlock in which he has diabolically held Chicago's mightily struggling National League baseball team since 1908..." Lonnie Wheeler- "Bleachers"
I think you have to make a move of some kind
But given the uncertain future of Lee/Ramirez/Byrd/Silva/Lilly, not sure what could happen
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
Disagree...
on the Soto send. The LF-er had the ball before Soto touched 3rd. But whatever, hard to complain about anything after a nice win.
Loved that Soriano bunt. He was THAT close to beating it out too.
The Soto send wasn't unreasonable...
… with a 2-1 lead and Dempster the next hitter.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
It might not be unreasonable
With a somewhat speedy runner…but to send Soto when the LFer had the ball prior to Soto touching third was a bad move IMO.
I would have held him knowing you at least will have the lead off guy hitting with two out and two in scoring position.
by DMCub on Jun 17, 2010 7:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Had it been out #3, I would have agreed
Since it was only the second out, I think I’d have taken my chances with Dempster hitting it to the outfield.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 17, 2010 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions
That was debated quite a bit here on the game thread.
I was surprised when I saw it, but BB said just what you did and thinking about it, it made a lot of sense to send the guy because of those factors….Demp being next and Theriot being the hitter with two outs after Demp. Live he seemed to be out by quite a margin, it was kind of difficult to see during the replay if an off line throw would have gotten him.
What did surprise me most about it was I could see live Soto wasn’t at third yet when the LF picked the ball up.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Especially since this
team has been stingy in the runs department. Got to take your chances.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on Jun 17, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I suppose you also thought the Derrek Lee send was bad too because he was also dead to rights
EVEN THOUGH HE FORCED A BAD THROW AND SCORED ON THE PLAY!! The whole point is to force the other team to make the play. They aren’t scoring many runs so they decided to force the issue. With Soto it probably cost them nothing, and with DLEE it resulted in a run they would have otherwise stranded. Beautiful strategy that clearly worked for the Cubs.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 17, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I really did not understand using Z to pinch hit
Unless of course it is Lou’s way of trying to get him injured and off the roster.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
I suspect he did it so we would have something to complain about.
Mission accomplished, Lou. Mission accomplished.
True.
I thought Lou said he wasn’t going to use Z to do that this year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Look, what do you want him to do?
He needs to shake up the line-up, and put the hottest bats out there no matter what. He’s through coddling his players.
/channel Lou
I think Bob or maybe Len said
the rest of the PH off the bench would have been lefties.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
I guess the A's had a left-hander ready to come in.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
The "logic" was baffling as well.
Len and Bob were grasping at straws… all they came up with was the only RH hitter on the bench was Koyie Hill… and we all know the back-up catcher is not allowed to PH.
Therefore, Lou determined Z swinging RH was a better option than one of the LH position players.
It didn’t matter, but a bit baffling.
That surprised me definitely.
Hearing him coming to bat my immediate reaction was Lou is trying to keep up Z’s enthusiasm more than he really thought Z was better than other pinch hitters. That might be ludicrous, but Lou surely has used Z to pinch hit before.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem using Z to pinch hit
in certain limited situations but this was with big lead.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 17, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't either in some situations. He's a great hitter for a pitcher.
Certainly in the situation he was used it wasn’t a big deal to me, though I wouldn’t have used him in that one.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it was more of a subtle shot at Bob
Using Z to hit, that is.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
I believe Z was the only right hand bat on the bench other than Koyie.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Hmm...now that does make good Lou sense for sure.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Bench hasn't been producing much?
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
Tyler Colvin splits update
After last night’s double of a lefty, Colvin is now hitting .263 Vs lefties. 3 of his 5 hits off lefties where for extra bases. Now of course this is the ultimate sample size of 19 ABs but kind of hard to get a bigger sample if he only gets a chance to hit lefties by desperation or happenstance which is what happened in his last two ABs Vs lefties.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Still only a .701 OPS against LHP for his ML career (versus .952 against RHP)
Not enough to start him against LHP unless one of our starters needs a day off IMO, but not enough to pull him from a game simply because he’s got a LH reliever coming up either.
Either way, I’m pleasantly surprised at how wrong I was declaring it a mistake that he started the year with the team.
The only "regular" in question is Nady
I would prefer Colvin. Again you can’t really judge much of anything by the limited stats if you never let him play against lefties.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 17, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions
If we have a trade partner for Nady, send him packing
Otherwise, until the Cubs decide they’re going to start playing for next year, I can see the logic of going with a guy who has a .835 career OPS against LHP when they’re starting on the mound.
There should still be 3+ starts a week available for Colvin even if he doesn’t see much time against LHP. It’s not as if Lou is playing him in every opportunity except for those as it is. If I had a bone to pick it would be that we’re not starting the guy with a .952 OPS against RHP more often against RHP, not that we’re not experimenting with that same guy against LHP just to figure out what we have (of course, if/when we fall totally out of contention, I definitely think we should at that point).
Yeah I didn't like seeing Colvin pulled either when Nady is the replacement.
He said Colvin would be played regularly, and while I’m not surprised he was spelled for the righty, after the defensive debacle of the night before Dome seemed a better choice with his defense. Sometimes I think Lou just pulls guys to show the media they can’t tell him what to do.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Debacle? It was ONE slip on wet grass! Oh, the humanity.
He got two errors because Castro followed that up with a missed catch. Brenly even made sure to point out that was no fault of Colvin’s.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 17, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Whoa...I said defensive debacle. I meant the team.
I realized he only really had one error there.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
For defense your outfield is Colvin, Byrd, Fukudome.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 17, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
That sounds reasonable.
Byrd and Fukudome are to me your best outfielders…Byrd has saved a ton of outs alone. I don’t think we have anyone better than Colvin for left….unless I’m missing one of the rookies in there.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I know we have beat this to death, so I will be brief
Your point that we don’t yet know if Colvin can hit left-handed pitching at the MLB level is valid. But, we do know that Nady can. I see nothing wrong with giving Nady the 1-2 starts against lefties per week while the season has even a flicker of hope left. In reality, Hendry should be looking to deal Nady sometime in the next few weeks. At this point I think most of our ire with respect to Colvin should be making sure that he is getting the majority lf at-bats against righties.
by JSB on Jun 17, 2010 9:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
My problem with Nady
was April & May when he was not healthy and the Cubs admitted this when signing him. I actually really like Nady and I have to assume his recent defensive fiascos where the result lack of work/practice etc. It made perfect sense for the Cubs to sign a righty to platoon with Dome and they had no way of knowing Colvin would have the monster ST and be so good when he made the squad. At this point it is water under the bridge, but signing a guy who at a minimum could not play the OF till June and then letting him do it was a very bad move.
Colvin still needs to get some starts Vs left handed pitching. Whether he does this in place of
Nady, Sori or even Byrd a few times really is not a huge deal. Lou’s obsession with platooning at every possible especially but not exclusively against lefties is not a good strategy and has not worked well. It is hardly limited to Colvin. Not using Soto despite his being the player with the highest OBP is certainly bad if not worse.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 17, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Not using Soto is criminal
To me Lou’s use of Soto has been his biggest mistake this year. I would actually like to see Colvin get a start against a lefty this week considering we face 4 in 6 games. Doubt it will happen but it would be nice to see. As far as the overall platoon strategy when you have limited players such as the Cubs do I (Fontenot/Riot/Baker and Dome/Nady) I like it. Those guys I mentioned all have pretty pronounced career splits as well.
by JSB on Jun 17, 2010 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
RE Attendance
Two things factor into this. One being the team is losing, the second being the economy. The first begets the second. People were willing to pay top dollar to see the Hawks, a winning team, at ridiculous prices. The Cubs, playing mediocre and sub .500 ball, are not exactly the same draw. Seems pretty obvious, but start winning and fans will come back.
Secondly, this may help the Wrigley reputation that the only people who come out are people looking to get drunk and party. Having those numbers go down may show that not all the people going to the park are looking to do such a thing.
On a related note, I went to the first game of the Cubs/Sox series and having my first beer at Wrigley was pretty amazing.
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
Yeah, I remember going with my wife to the game the first time and having an Old Style.
Went often with my folks before but never wanted to order a beer with them…wasn’t of age there anyway. That first beer was pretty darn cool looking at the ivy and seeing pinstripes. That’s sure baseball to me…cold beer, that glorious ballpark and good company.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
My first beer at Wrigley was when I was 15
Sitting in the RF bleachers and the drunk guy above me spilled it down my back. My second one a few year later was much better!
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Acronym for Thrown Out On The Basepaths Like A Nincompoop. Baseball statistic invented for Ryan Theriot of the Chicago Cubs, for his penchant for ill-advised steal attempts and general lack of skill running bases.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TOOTBLAN
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
Idiot just doesn't have the same ring...
I’d take moron over nincompoop — TOOTBLAM sounds so much more oafish.
Does that really have Theriot's name in that link?
It’s always been funny regardless, but man if so that’s truly inspired as well as accurate.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah, it does.
I looked TOOTBLAN up on Urban Dictionary on one of my first visits to BCB. Theriot’s name has been in the definition as long as I’ve heard the term.
"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z
That's pretty funny.
He continues to earn it.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Reading the papers today
Hendry says Lou isnt going anywhere.
Al, is this Hendry calling out the players…or the dreaded vote of confidence. I personally think Lou isnt going anywhere this year….unfortunately.
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
I don't know.
It’s the THIRD vote of confidence Hendry has given Lou. I’m mystified by this.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Not sure
It seemed like they were pre-game comments.
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
That changes the complexion of the comments.
If they’re pregame, then they followed a loss (a horrific one, at that), and fit the conditions of a “vote of confidence.” But, as it’s Chicago, maybe it takes numerous votes to equal one vote anyplace else in the country. I mean, if VDN lasted a whole season with a mediocre performance and a physical altercation with his boss, I think Hendry will need to stuff the ballot box full before the curse kicks in.
Yeah that has to be at least the third VOC I've seen.
I can’t believe that it means anything in particular by now. Perhaps Hendry is just showing that he’s in touch and knows what’s happening with the team.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess the next question is
Whe does Ricketts start giving a VOC to Hendry. My money says Lou “retires” after the season. Hendry stays but with no guarantees beyond his current contract, and Sandberg is the new manager with a 3 year deal.
I think that is the “safe” thing to do and my impression is that is how Ricketts is going to run the baseball side for a while.
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Man I hope you are wrong but that does sound what's likely to happen.
At least from everything said during the season. Lou doesn’t seem to care if anyone thinks he’s screwing up (unless its Stone of course), indicating he will retire …and Ricketts hasn’t said much of anything. I hope Ricketts has at least gathered a short list of GMs by now. I’d sure like to see someone else in the GM spot by the end of the season…or the trade deadline.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope I'm wrong too
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Not to shoot the messenger but this is discomforting news
The Cubs will not truly improve and become a stronger organization so long as Jim Hendry continues as GM.
I’ll admit the plan proposed by other BCBers, where a new Dir. of Baseball Operations is hired to keep watch on Hendry and prevent him from overpaying “meh” talent, sounds good. But issues concerning the practicality of this plan have me wondering if it would have an actual chance of success. I think I’d be more in favor of a Dir. of Baseball Operations coming in and hiring a new GM who is on board with the Director’s philosophies from the get-go, rather than there being a potential conflict with the existing GM who might resent being watched or neutralized.
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
I thought in the beginning when I heard that proposed that it was meaningless.
Just a spin on the position, leaving Hendry still in charge. But now that Ricketts hasn’t shown any willingess to search for a new GM (hope he is behind the scenes)…I would say a hall monitor for Hendry is better than nothing. Thing is until or unless Ricketts says what his approach will be we won’t know what his plan is at all. Your approach sounds good if he did it at the end of the season …rather than waiting another year.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Very much agree
Thought this tid bit in the Trib today was interesting.
Stats man: The Cubs have hired Ari Kaplan as manager of statistical analysis. Kaplan arrived three weeks ago and will provide stats and write computer programs for the scouts to help them combine their information.
“He also had a relationship with (Chairman) Tom Ricketts,” Hendry said.
Be nice to see some statistical thinking creep in to the Cubs decision making.
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Good news for sure
Maybe it was more than just lip service when Ricketts recalled reading all the Bill James stuff back in his days on the trading floor.
Just hope the scouts are willing to use Kaplan’s info and not use the CDs he burns as coasters.
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
Wasn't there a fan post about this before?
I’m not trying to nitpick you, I just didn’t read the post..said something about Ricketts hiring new stat guy. Could only help to me.
"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
This was the first I saw it. Dont worry about nitpicking. I’ve been married for 33 years. Wouldnt know it if I saw it!
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
I don't know why you should be mystified
Quite simply, it’s not Hendry’s MO to fire a manager, though the only real test of it was with Baker. If that serves as any barometer, Piniella will be here until the last pitch of this season. Hendry also typically defers to veteran players, like with giving no-trade contracts and the like. Not firing Piniella is what I’d expect from Hendry.
I’d like to see someone else come here and see if they can recusitate this team, but I can also see the logic in keeping Piniella. This team has failed because of Fukudome, Lee and Ramirez, no one else and not Piniella.
by jerry morales rules on Jun 17, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you that the players you cited are chiefly to blame
However I can not give Lou a free pass. Anyone watching this team can clearly see that this is not the same Piniella of three years ago. He is completely disinterested and shows no visible interest or energy for his job. I’m not one to criticize moves on a day to day basis but he certainly has made numerous odd moves this year including Z to the pen, Riot leading off, Colvin not playing more, Lee and Ramirez anchored in the 3 and 4 spot. Those things have been impactful in a negative way.
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Maybe Lou knows a stinker when he sees one
and thus feels no need to pretend that there’s talent worthy of being challenged or manipulated into winning.
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
You're right that Piniella shouldn't get a free pass
And I did write that I woudl liek to see someone else there to see what they can do.
… but just to play devil’s advocate (I’ll pass on Z to the pen becuase that was simply dumb-ass) …
a) There is no lead-off hitter on the team. It’s a least worst option. Why not give Theriot a shot? Is there really some great leadoff hitter that I’m missing?
b) Colvin has sort of come out of nowhere. A year ago, we were wondering if he was a total bust. There have been plenty of players who have been floundering in their careers, had hot spring trainings, had nice starts to the season, and have fallen off since then. I can see how Piniella might be wary of that and defer to veterans instead. (That’s not to say that’s what i would have done).
c) There’s an old saying in baseball that players are eventually going to put up the numbers on the back of their baseball cards. How many teams can compete if their projected 3 and 4 hitters turn out as bad as Lee and Ramirez did? It was surprising and unexpected. Who else can really fit those spots?
by jerry morales rules on Jun 17, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
a) Agree we do not have a leadoff hitter. Massive shortfall by Hendry. I would at least occasionally try other players, Fontenot, Dome, Colvin. Riot just frustrates me to no end.
b) He did come out of nowhere but if you have a young prospect who has been hitting since day one of ST….play him.
c) Throw Byrd and Soriano in there. Or at least split them up once in a while.
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Anyone else catch ESPN's "30 For 30" special focusing on the OJ Simpson chase?
It was a pretty good watch. Just a collage of sports highlights from June 17, 1994, including the World Cup opening ceremonies in Chicago, NBA Finals with Knicks/Rockets, NY Rangers victory parade and Arnold Palmer at the US Open. Of course, the focus was on the OJ Simpson low-speed chase in LA.
ANYWAY, they also showed Ken Griffey, Jr. hitting a tape measure HR for the Mariners that day. They cut to a shot of Lou in the dugout and he had his legs crossed, looked totally bored – basically EXACTLY like he looks now. So maybe he’s always looked disinterested in the dugout??
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
I can't really believe it either
Just some posturing to keep the hounds at bay. Can anyone really be defended when they intentionally walk someone to get to Konerko with the bases loaded? He’s like 2nd or 3rd in OPS.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Yes, that's easy to defend
He loaded the bases to get a force at every base. Get off your high horse. It worked. There was no “good” option in that situation. He took what he thought was the least worst.
You may not agree, a lot of people may not agree, but, like it or not, a lot of managers would have done the same thing in that situation.
by jerry morales rules on Jun 17, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure
it did work that time, but was fortunate cause he was killing the Cubs in the series. Not on a highhorse; just was perplexed by the move.
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It wasn't "that" bad of a decision
He’s had some huge stinkers this year, I’m not saying he hasn’t, but I think that one can be defended.
by jerry morales rules on Jun 17, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I was happy it worked
At the moment I was against it primarily because “wild Carlos” was on the mound that night. He did not have command, control, or even coordination when he balked. I was sure he was going to walk in a run. But as I said…it worked. So props to Lou.
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
This tells me
Hendry spends too much time reading the papers and message boards… and feels he has to come out and support his manager.
Lou isn't going anywhere
It’s his last job according to what he said when he signed in 2007, and he’s got too good of a reputation for the Cubs to just let him go. They were going to get a new manager anyways
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
From what it looks like
the only place Lou is headed is Tampa That would be after the road trip in Houston on 10/03 . I would think that Ricketts is already making his list and checking it twice .
If Hendry was going to give Lou the axe it would have been by now . Unless Lou goes way off the deep end at the media . ( that’s you Stoney )….
Soriano was safe
That was a bad call.
What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there any horse socks? Is anybody listening to me?
Are you talking about the bunt or thrown out at third?
They didn’t freeze the bunt at first very well and I never saw a slow motion replay of him sliding into third. He sure looked safe at third to me live.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
3rd out at third?
But driving in two runs…..this season I’ll take the 2 RBI just to get them in and trade the out.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
He was safe at third. That was a lousy call. Wasn't even close.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 17, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
He was clearly safe.
Real time and replay
by salparadise23 on Jun 17, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Better I didn't see it then. Just would have angered me.
It looked like the ump and Quade weren’t going to worry about it since we had already scored, had the lead, and it ended the inning. But a call shouldn’t be made on importance.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Safe, safe, safe!
Again, it wasn’t close and I like the aggressiveness on the basepaths last night. Let’s talk about how another ump clearly missed an easy routine call. Can they force them to get eye-exams every six months?
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You'd hope so.
I sure did like them being aggressive. With the way we score runs on any given night , and accounting for our lack of speed, we sure need it.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I see it a slightly different way
Instead of advocating being aggressive because runs are scarce, I would not take chances on the basepaths because outs are too precious to waste – especially with this club’s offensive struggles.
I get that Lou is trying to make something happen, and good for him. But if it was me, I’d try things that minimize the likelihood of making an out (eg. conservative baserunning, making contact instead of hitting the long ball). To each his own. :-)
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
That's always a hard choice.
It’s sure easy to justify being conservative. I just see them struggling to score runs and especially get hits with RISP so being aggressive makes sense to me. And you’re very right, to each his own.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes clearly safe, and I had to admire him accepting the bad call without argument.
Not a lot of players would do that. Now Quade on the other hand should have ripped that ump a new one, since his ejection doesn’t really mean anything. How about some fire from the coaches once in a while, JEEZ!!
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 17, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Quade's usually pretty good about that
Sinatro on the other hand usually doesn’t do much
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Two Former Cub Farmhands DFA'd
Two former Cub minor leaguers, Renyel Pinto and Brian Dopirek were both DFA yesterday. Pinto is a litle surprising. Had a 2.80 ERA and struck out 16 in 15 innings. he is wild but I think he might have some use. Any thoughts, Al?
Lets Play Two Today
I posted...
… this FanShot about the Pinto DFA. Jim Hendry is loyal to his players. Pinto walks a lot of guys, but might be worth a minor league deal. He can’t be any worse than John Grabow. Right?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Bad Metric
If we are using “better than John Grabow” as our measuring stick then mabe Hendry should sign Dopirek to pitch. Or…..well…..anyone who has been DFA’d
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"better than John Grabow"

Get it done Jim !!!
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Also better than Grabow...

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Jeez
Grabow pitches his first scoreless inning since who can remember and…
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by BucknerKongCardenal on Jun 17, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
lol...didn't have the heart to finish it?
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I have Pinto's autograph from ST 2004!
Good enough reason to sign him IMO.
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by waiting4cubs on Jun 17, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
My mom had one of those for awhile. Always feel relieved it didn't explode.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I keep mine in an lead-lined safe.
I live too close to the ballpark and must protect our superheroes.
One of Lee Elia's 15%
by waiting4cubs on Jun 17, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Especially against the diabolical Rear-End Collision Man!
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting to get worried about our staff
in that they’re being overworked. Silva is the only starting pitcher I can think of who regularly isn’t pitching into the 100s. If they are being overworked, sooner or later, the last good thing about this team is going to go.
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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 17, 2010 8:20 AM CDT reply actions
Dempster seems to be able to handle the workload.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
That's something to think about. With our bullpen, especially pre Cashner
The tendency for any manager is to let the starter go as long as possible. It sure would be good to avoid some dead arms coming.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha
Or Lou will move Cashner into the rotation and Gorz as well, sending Wells to the pen and using a six man rotation. But Lou has a man crush on Wells.
In all seriousness, I think Gorz deserves to be back in the rotation though, especially since Wells has looked sub-par.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on Jun 17, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Amen to that.
I had forgotten about Wells until I saw last night he would be pitching today. I had honestly thought they would have put Gorzy back into the rotation after another meltdown last time. Sure would stink to lose another home series because of him.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Len and Bob speculated that Marmol needed the work.
He had amazing stuff last night.
One of Lee Elia's 15%
Ladies and gentlemen
That game last night was how the game of baseball is meant to be played.
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by theGraceyslumpbuster on Jun 17, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions
"Cubs crept to within 6.5"
Meh, we’ve been there all year.
Not to piss in the Cheerios after the win ...
but Hendry clearly addressed “needs” that weren’t really needs in the winter. How different would things look right now if (instead of signing Nady and Grabow) the Cubs had signed Orlando Hudson to lead off and play second? Hudson’s OPS is about 170 points higher than Theriot’s and he’s only making about $2.4 million more money.
The Cubs should not have signed Nady, they shouldn’t have signed Grabow (although, at least Hendry knew that the bullpen needed help), and he should have non-tendered Theriot and Fontenot (who never plays, anyway).
I realize that I might just be rearranging deck chairs, given the struggles of Lee and Ramirez. But Hudson at the top of the lineup, Colvin playing every day and no more Theriot or Grabow bullcrap were all EASILY within Hendry’s grasp.
How many solid seasons has Hudson put together?
He seems to move from team to team each season.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on Jun 17, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
That's true.
But for $5 million — or less than we’re paying Theriot and Grabow — we could have this guy’s numbers on the team, http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5029.
I know that Hudson is injury prone. But so is Nady. And Grabow and Theriot have been huge problems.
OK, then sign Hudson, but not Nady and Grabow.
My point is that Hendry used his limited resources badly.
This I agree with, mostly because of Grabow
But still not so much about Hudson – Fonenot and Baker, if they were being platooned rather than having Theriot play at 2B, would be provding more production than Hudson*. The bigger problem is that we’re still playing Theriot at all, rather than dumping him on someone else.
- Baker is OPSing .968 against LHP, Fontenot .771 against RHP. Hudson would have a slightly higher OBP than they do, but not by enough IMO.
but Hudson is a legit leadoff guy
and he would be used as such.
What makes him a leadoff guy that the other guys can't do?
We’re talking about a difference of less than 20 points of OBP between Hudson and the proposed Bakenot platoon. He has 4 SB vs. 0 CS, compared to 3 SB and 1 CS for Bakenot.
I’m not saying that the difference is nothing, but its not so much that I wouldn’t rather we spent that $3m on a reliever or two instead.
Can we at least both agree that Hudson is a clear cut better option than any 2B option involving Theriot?
They should have never signed Grablow
and to sign an outfielder that can’t throw right now was odd. But don’t forget they had no idea that Colvin was going to turn it on like he has. And Fuke can’t hit what-so-ever.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on Jun 17, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions
it's my belief that Nady ...
would not have been signed if the Cubs had thought Soriano would play this well.
Wow that is bad
Sad to think that major investment wasn’t expected to play this well. Sigh.
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by theGraceyslumpbuster on Jun 17, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Andres Blanco!
He is hitting .200 so he would fit right in.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 17, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I figured my argument would be a winner for you, DS.
Given the Nady part.
I'd rather have Blanco than Theriot right now.
At least Blanco can play defense and run the bases.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
And Blanco wouldn't have the attitude Theriot has.
Why he thinks he’s earned being “aggressive and knows his swing better than anyone” that is beyond me.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
It might be a nitpick elgato, but Grabow was acquired at the end of last season rather than
over the winter, thus that salary meant he wasn’t going to make any big signings during the winter for relief help. Which surely as you say was a big mistake.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
He was a FA at the end of the season
The Cubs resigned him to a 2-year deal that in retrospect was quite clearly a mistake. To be honest at the time I didn’t really have an opinion one way or the the other, didn’t seem to me to be that big of a deal. I don’t think signing Nady was a mistake. At the time he was signed, we had no idea Colvin would emerge and it would have been just as ruinous go into the season without an adequate platoon partner for Fukudome as to go into the season without a better second basemen like Hudson. That being said, I have thought the Cubs should have acquired Hudson each of the last three off-seasons, and I am mystified why they never took a run at him.
by JSB on Jun 17, 2010 9:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
well, partly this
The Cubs could have gone into the season with Jeff Baker as Kosuke’s platoon mate, but Hendry didn’t do that because Nady was signed as Soriano insurance as much as for his righty bat. I’ll give Hendry a pass on Colvin, but he clearly underestimated Soriano’s ability to bounce back.
Good point on Baker
I hadn’t thought about him as a platoon partner for Dome. Hudson/Baker > Nady/Fontenot/Riot
by JSB on Jun 17, 2010 12:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone notice Suppan pitching 4 innings day before yesterday?
The report had TLR gushing …MB hit a homer for the only run scored against him.
Walked 2, struck out 4. This is a fairly big deal (Suppan pitching well over time) because no one has any idea if Penny will be good once returned, so without recycling Suppan they would have two potential gaping holes in the rotation. They avoided the second spot today with an off day.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:46 AM CDT reply actions
I be honestly believe that
Dave Duncan sold his soul and that of every member of his extended family to the devil. If the Cubs did DFA Grabow, he would probably end up as the Cardinals closer next year and get
60 saves.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 17, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions
If he is able to turn Suppan around
I think we all should start looking for Duncan’s pointy tail & goat hooves.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
lol I can believe that. You should have heard the reaction here in STL when they released
Dunc’s kid. The fans were jubliant, and management would not say a word about it.
I’ll take my chances with STL acquiring Grabow in a heart beat, dump that salary and let us benefit from him pitching for a change. Love to see them turn Grabow into Fassero after leaving us.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Give Suppan another couple starts -
he’ll prove Duncan is immortal and still has his soul
by doofus cubs guy on Jun 17, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I would say his numbers were good,
Though not spectacular. And even more importantly, he pitched 70 some pitches in only 4 innings. That may have been the pitch limit plan, but he had to use a lot of effort for it. He will need to pitch more than 4 innings in the future, and that will be a better test.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I was watching the MLB
chnl on my day off when the kid was cut . It sounded as tho Dave Duncan and Tony knew nothing about it . It was a hush-hush deal . The media tried to get Tony to talk about it and he just glared at the camera ???
Tony said a few words about it being an unfortunate situation. Not much as you say.
Duncan was screaming about it all over town…though usually away from the media. It was quite a thing for awhile. There was a lot of speculation with TLR’s contract coming up that Tony would leave, Duncan would retire…many scenarios. It was a bad situation and I think just showed having your son on the team even as a pitching coach is not a good idea.
Oh and P.S. Tony glares at the camera most days. His press conferences can last 1 minute long if he’s had several losses together. The media here has long been in the pocket of the manager, and with LaRussa’s stature, that has just been multiplied tenfold. Few if any ask him any embarrassing questions.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know his stats on throwing out runners...he was the LF last night, right?
Said in the game thread he didn’t play much last year being injured so Quade might have thought his arm would have trouble. I don’t know that much about him.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Jackson was in RF last night, not LF.
And while I was watching the highlights on the MLB Network, Hazel Mae pronounced Quade’s name as “KWAYDE”, not “KWAH-dee”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Funny, I've always thought Len and Bob pronounced it KWA-day.
I didn’t recognize the LF and hopefully the stats guys on the game thread has his name right. They said he had like 5 assists last year total I think.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, now that I look at it again...
… Jackson was in LF last night. Cust, who played LF on Tuesday, was in RF yesterday.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
That was a near perfect throw to the plate he had. One bounce IIRC.
I doubt Quade runs on him in that situation again.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
You gave me a heart attack Al
I thought that ESPN and Yahoo! were both lying to me last night when I looked to see who the LF was before stat-hunting.
by Steven Schweickert on Jun 17, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Not last year.
Was something like 7 OF Assists for his 5 year career, one assist last year as a 1B, 0 as an OF.
by Steven Schweickert on Jun 17, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Hazel would go from "not bad" to "hot" if she stopped chasing those parked cars
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
IIRC
He was a HUGE deal for the D-Backs but never really got the power that they wanted out of him. He was a Hoff situation, 1B/LF
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
Jackson was always a far better prospect than Hoffpauir.
Still could turn into a decent major league player.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Oh absolutely
Just similar in style, both play the same positions, both are power guys who have struggled to find power
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Nothing to do right now but hope and pray that Lee and Ramirez start hitting
I know there’s a lot of talk here and elsewhere about what the Cubs should do, fire Piniella, fire Hendry, trade veterans for minor leaguers, but there’s really only one thing this team can do now and that’s hope that Lee and Ramirez can turn it around.
I recognize that Ramirez is on the DL right now, but he should be back soon. When that happens, the Cubs still have some time to figure out whether they are sellers or buyers at the trade deadline. Lee and Ramirez (as well as the team in regards to wins) have to get hot over the next 4 weeks. If they don’t, well, that’s the point when Cub mgmt should pull the plug and see what they can get.
In the menatime, here’s hoping for a turnaround, because, quite honestly, there’s nothing else to do.
by jerry morales rules on Jun 17, 2010 9:29 AM CDT reply actions
Let's not overreact over one good win
I swear Al, your mood changes like the tides. I understand you’re trying to stay positive, but let’s wait to see if they can put a stretch of good games together before saying they have a legitimate shot to catch the Reds and Cards. Their hitting with runners in scoring position tells me it’s going to be very difficult to attain. Let’s shoot for .500 first, then go from there.
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You don’t have to be a nincompoop to have a TOOTBLAN?
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Glad to hear about low attendance figures.
That should help get the ball rolling.
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It allows me to go to games at the last minute
without shelling out $100. Scalping bargains to be had!
by jerry morales rules on Jun 17, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Give it time
I’m expecting a firm handshake might be all it takes around the beginning of August.
by jerry morales rules on Jun 17, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice win.
I know I’m in the minority when it comes to BB, but why does he continue throw jabs Sori’s way? Even when Sori is playing the game the right way, BB always seems to throw in a back handed compliment his way.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
He's been much improved at the plate, especially with discipline (#23 in the NL in pitches/plate appearance!)
But his defense is still majorly lacking, with some noteworthy blunders.
I've never said this before
But Soriano impressed me last night. Played like a team player and helped the team secure the victory at the plate.
I hope they look to last nights game as momentum going forward. I can’t remember the last time I saw last nights team play like that.
Let's get W today
Long-time lurker, first time poster here a BCB. I will be there today, my second game of the season. Let’s get a W today!
Let's Play Two!!!
Have fun at the game and welcome, Saluki!
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 17, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's funny we have 'worries' about attendance.
That’s a subject for San Diego, Oakland, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, White Sox and Pittsburgh fans/media to chew over. Sometimes… the Cubs might not sell out!!
With the many times I have discussed my memories of a 3/4 empty ballpark when I was a kid, this just seems to be an unusual concern.
If the team slips a bit, the crowds might fall somewhat. Attendence figures will never revert to the ‘olden days.’
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 17, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
I actually like that fans don't want to drop $40 bucks for a ticket
To watch this team at Wrigley.
Though in the long run it may have Mr. Ricketts hesitant to spend.
"I don't know what the big deal about Crackerjack is"
by theGraceyslumpbuster on Jun 17, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
$40 is a good price if you have
a good chance to hear GO Cubs GO….as the chance of that decreases,,so does the willingness to spend $40
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 17, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs also have much higher costs to cover
We all want the team to improve. If attendance continues to dwindle (by Cub standards), that creates a revenue short fall that could impact spending next year.
On the other hand, the squads you list (except the Sox) all have lower stakes and get money from MLB. They know they won’t draw and plan their budgets accordingly.

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