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What A Difference Two Weeks Makes: Cubs vs. White Sox Preview, Friday 6/25, 3:05 CT

When last we saw the White Sox, on June 13 in that near-double-no-hitter won by the Cubs, the Sox had a 28-34 record and were 7.5 games out of first place. The Cubs, by winning that June 13 game, were 28-35, also 7.5 games out of first place.

That was the last game the Sox lost -- they're now riding a nine-game winning streak; at 37-34 they stand 2.5 games behind the AL Central leading Twins. Meanwhile, the Cubs have plodded along at 4-5, but remarkably, have lost only half a game on the NL Central leaders during that time.

It's getting real late. But the Sox have shown how quickly you can turn a season around. Maybe the Cubs still have that in them. It'd be nice to do that starting today.

Interleague play has been around for 14 seasons, and Paul Konerko of the White Sox is third on the all-time list of playing the most games against a single interleague opponent.

Derek Jeter has played in 75 of the 78 Mets/Yankees games (going into this weekend, and you'd assume he'll add three more to that list). Garret Anderson played in 65 games against the Dodgers as an Angel (and has now played in four more of those games as an Angel). And Konerko has played in 58 of the 75 Cubs/White Sox games to date, more than any other single player in the history of the crosstown Chicago rivalry. Konerko is having a good year. Let's hang an 0-fer on him this weekend. Just for the record, the Cub who has played the most games in interleague play vs. the Sox is Sammy Sosa (53). Among active Cubs, Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez (who will be activated from the DL today) are tied with 34.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
Carlos Zambrano
Cubs
vs. Jake Peavy
Jake Peavy
White Sox
3-5 W-L 6-5
5.10 ERA 5.07
52 SO 77
25 BB 29
5 HR 12
vs. Sox -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Carlos Zambrano 3-5 23 8 0 0 0 0 54.2 65 35 31 5 25 52 5.10 1.65


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Jake Peavy 6-5 14 14 1 1 0 0 92.1 87 52 52 12 29 77 5.07 1.26

Jake Peavy threw a nice game against the Cubs two weeks ago at Wrigley, then tossed a three-hit shutout against the Nationals in his last outing. He's throwing quite well. Alfonso Soriano hits him best -- 7-for-19 with three homers.

Z has not faced the Sox this year, but last year he had one decent start (at Wrigley) and one bad one (at the Cell). In his career he's made eleven starts (13 total appearances) vs. the Sox and is 5-3, 4.56 with a rather alarming total of 12 homers allowed in 75 innings. Four of those HR have been hit by Paul Konerko, who is 8-for-28 overall against Z.

Today's game is on CSN Chicago with Len & Bob and on WGN with those other guys. Tune in to the other guys and see how many times they actually talk to each other, rather than at each other. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

SB Nation game preview

Please visit our SB Nation White Sox site South Side Sox.

Today's first pitch thread will be up at 3 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 4, 5 and 5:45 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Let's win the first game of a series for once and don't stop there either.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jun 25, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I would say there is no reason we can't go on a prolonged winning streak.

But it’s against the rules for these guys to score runs on a everyday basis.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jun 25, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Here are several reasons....

Our offense

Our defense

Our bullpen

Our manager

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 25, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

The BP cup is kryptonite.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess they got the lineup message we were sending.

Soriano at DH, per tweet from Carrie:

#Cubs lineup vs Sox Fri is rf fuke, lf colvin, cf byrd, 1b lee, 3b ramy, dh sori, ss font, c soto, 2b riot

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Castro on the bench again?

Hmm. Still stupid for Theriot to not play short.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jun 25, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fontenot may have a better arm.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

bingo

they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)

by Emelie on Jun 25, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

His "skill set"

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not scrappy though, SET.

You know, bobbling the ball at SS, double clutching, and throwing a dying quail to first…

Still laughing about that!

by Fonzie2178 on Jun 25, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

And don't forget...

… he doesn’t usually get TOOTBLAN.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theriot's most infuriating "skill"

Although I’d give Sori the prize for that this week.

they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)

by Emelie on Jun 25, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, that's hilarious!

That should be added to the dictionary though, I finally caved and googled it after trying to figure it out on my own. How did I miss this?

by Fonzie2178 on Jun 25, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't we be renaming this?

Thrown Out On The Basepaths Like A Theriot?

TOOTBLAT?

by Steven Schweickert on Jun 25, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan Theriot likes this.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is TOOTBLAN

Thrown out on the bases ______ _ _

by 100yearitch on Jun 25, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

like a nincompoop. Of course. ;-)

they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)

by Emelie on Jun 25, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad you liked it! sure is true often.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it is.

But I just realized, last night I hit that point where one goes from being upset about the Cubs performance, to being able to just laugh again. Maybe it was the win, or the good humor in the threads. It’s a nice change of pace, actually!

by Fonzie2178 on Jun 25, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was good natured and fun.

I prefer blowouts for losses because then the sarcasm is so extreme it gets fun as well. Let’s hope we win and have some fun doing it.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cheers to that!

For now I have to go though, because, y’know, troubleshooting a NOR flash that reports back the wrong identifier code is MUCH more fun than talking about baseball…

by Fonzie2178 on Jun 25, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL...well nice to see you here then.

How did you get my self portrait from the Web? I hadn’t realized I had uploaded that.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWSH

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best

by Blue W on Jun 25, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

DAMN! I meant "TWSS"

damn.

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best

by Blue W on Jun 25, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard the term "dying quail" once before.

It was used in a book about the Packers-Cowboys “Ice Bowl” of 1967 to describe a field goal attempt by Dallas that fell way short. In fact, the attempt was so short that the Packers fielded it at their 4-yard line.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also is listed in the sports dictionary under "Avellini pass"

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never heard that before.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

See Bears offense with Payton; Payton left, Payton right, Payton up the middle

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basically,

It means a very rare pass attempt mixed in with boatloads of rushing plays?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad quarterback and arm+ unskilled receivers= dying quails

and overusing star running back.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the Bears when they had Cade McNown at QB.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cade McClown?

Heck you can substitute most any Bears QB in there sides McMahon. He’s got a sublisting under rehab ward.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh!

The angst against Theriot!

Can someone please tell me how in the world anyone can find the need to bash a .279 hitter when Lee and Ramirez are on the team?

Is the black hole of absolute suck so unbelievably large with Lee and Ramirez that it can’t be seen anymore and it has to be by-passed and directed towards a .279 hitter with 14 SBs playing two positions?

In no Theriiot fan, I’d be happy to see him elsewhere, but Lee and Ramirez are getting a huge pass on this site and I’m not sure why. Personally, I have much better anaylsis to provide than to direct some sort of criticism towards Theriot.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well for one Ramirez was on the DL, not much to complain about with him

on the bench. Lee has been hitting better lately. Those are sure valid complaints of yours. We’ve sure bitched about them a lot this year here, and deservedly so.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly not near enough

Theriot gets as much if not more blame on this site than either Lee or Ramirez and it’s not even close as to where the lion’s share of the blame should go.

I really am no Theriot fan, but I find it appaling to find fault with a guy making $2.6M and hitting .279. There’s no justification to it.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

With the defense, TOOTBLANs, and self proclaimed being aggressive rather than taking walks,

I think Theriot has earned our scorn. But you see it differently of course, and it sounds like you have almost everything you need right there already for a fanpost.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not that I think Theriot isn't a part of the problem

He is, but it’s a tiny part. That doesn’t give him carte blanche. Each and every player should be a part of the solution and zero part of the problem. If that player isnt’ a part of the solution, other ones need to be found that are.

However, Lee and Ramirez are such a huge part of the problem that complaining about Theriot is being penny-wise and pound-foolish.

I’m here most days and I just don’t see the anger placed at thier feet and I see much too much placed at Theriot’s.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think most of the angst

is that he plays every day and we have a potentially better player sitting on the bench…

Sipping the Kool-Aid since 1982 - Kinda
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119

by hansman1982 on Jun 25, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

It’s Neifi Perez syndrome.

by elgato on Jun 25, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, maybe

And if he was to start every day, how many more wins woul dthis team have? 2? That would probably be stretching it. Quite honestly, I think that number is probably closer to one or manybe even none, but that’s more anecdotal than anything else.

If Lee and Ramirez were hitting even only slightly below thier carrer averages, it would be more than 2 more wins. I think we’d be near .500 at least.

I’m not saying there isn’t a point to be had with what you write. I’m not happy with Theriot either, but it’s nothing in comparison to the wreckage that Lee and Ramirez is doing to this Cub team.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you, tho there isn't many things about this team that does not make me cringe,

Theriot included, but the one that irks me the most is Lee and Aramis back to back in the heart of the lineup

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does "...." mean?

Seriously. I’ve seen it and don’t know.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably a fail

it’s creepy lol

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretend that I've said something completely ridiculous/stupid

and now look at me speechless because you can’t believe what you heard. The speechless part would be the multiple periods, or if it’s three periods, an elipsis.

www.facebook.com/craighudak

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 25, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh thanks.

Kind of smarmy not to write why the objection, IMHO.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

...and aramis and lee back to back...that just boggles my mind

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with ya coolio. Byrd should be between them. Keep Lee where he usually is.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also...

… roster move tweet from David Kaplan:

Cubs activate Aramis Ramirez and designate Chad Tracy for assignment ramirez bats fifth today and is at 3rd.

DFA’ing Tracy means they might be able to trade him. He does have some trade value.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Really?

He does?

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jun 25, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure he does.

He plays 3B decently, has hit decently. Not great, but maybe enough to bring a low-level prospect.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

why wouldn't a team just wait for the ten days to pass and then pick him up for free?

I realize you’re only talking about a low-level prospect, but why pay for it when you get it free?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 25, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got a great goatee though.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe 2 or 3 teams want him

or a good leak to the press makes it seem like 2 or 3 teams so someone is willing to give up the prospect..or bag of balls

by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 25, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

why DFA?

why not just send him down to Iowa again? Did he have to agree to being sent down last time? Is this a “favor” to him — to allow him to hopefully get picked up by another major league team?

by lji001 on Jun 25, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Lou still the manager?

United we stand and united we'll fall......down on our knees the day we win it all!

by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 25, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

For now, yes.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

define "manager"

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 25, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define "Lou"

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define "still"

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define "is"

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define "?"

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 25, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awright, you're all coming over to my place for drinks.

This is ridiculous.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are all of us asking him to define things invited?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Got rum and coke and Red Stripe. hmm...and Tequila and Strawberry Margarita mix.

Rest is BYOB.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

...sounds like that's all I would need is salt and a lime :)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Always lime. Fresh. Rum and coke is not the same without it.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was talking about shots of Tequila!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn ...one tequila, two tequila, three tequila...floor?

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

too funny! good one

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rookie

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best

by Blue W on Jun 25, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define "ridiculous"

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Theriot Skills"

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define "skills"

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define: Bavarian Kool-Aid


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jun 25, 2010 1:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's your responsibility!

slacker.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm working on it right now, Sir!


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jun 25, 2010 1:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hmm...this could take awhile.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

define "all"

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're in charge of party games.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

oooo, I have some good ones too ;)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...pass the orange?

All i saw over the holidays were dice games with a few dollar bills. You can see I’m lacking here.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate that one...left, right, center is fun....flippy cups....and a few card game that I dont know the name of

all drinking games
non-drinking games Apples to Apples is fun when you have a silly group

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah then you know my pain. Always seems to be with strangers that

giggle endlessly at their spouses. The Apples thing sounds interesting. I know some card drinking games sure. Take a drink when Theriot swings at the first pitch could be fun…or when Lee hits into a double play…5 RISP left on base…Rami Ks…could be a lot of things to use.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's going to be a rough morning after

If we’re drinking any time those things happen in a game!
In relation to that, we did one once where we put in Office Space and you had to drink every time Lumbergh said “yeah”. The part with the answering machine was a hoot!

by Fonzie2178 on Jun 25, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

should i be excited for the return of Ramirez?

"That's life, that's what all the people say.
You're riding high in April,
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune,
When I'm back on top, back on top in June."
- Big boy Frankie

by lexmarklover on Jun 25, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

no

United we stand and united we'll fall......down on our knees the day we win it all!

by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 25, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know how you do it, AL.

To come here day in and day out to write about the Cubs. You must really love to write.

United we stand and united we'll fall......down on our knees the day we win it all!

by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 25, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do.

Maybe someday, they’ll win a series again.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe someday they'll win it all, Al...

then you can write a whole book on the journey to get there. It’ll be as long as the Bible, but, put me down for a copy.

Ron Santo - .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Enough said ! Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Jun 25, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're signed up!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You gotta sign it...

in case I need to sell it on e-bay.

Ron Santo - .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Enough said ! Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Jun 25, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

They will win this one.

I really hope they do.


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jun 25, 2010 12:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I just want to win the 1st game of a series

does anyone have 2010 record 1st game of series for 2nd and 3rd?

by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 25, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I have this correct

Cubs records within series this season to date:

Game 1: 9-16
Game 2: 10-14
Game 3: 12-9
Game 4: 1-1

Those numbers count the rain-delayed split series at Pittsburgh as 2 separate series. If you’d like to count it as one, take a W away from Game 1 and put it in Game 3.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 25, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Serious question.

Do you sign copies of your book?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Serious answer.

Yes

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

With a serious pen?

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best

by Blue W on Jun 25, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yahoo!

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Cubs live their life today, I will live mine.

"That's life, that's what all the people say.
You're riding high in April,
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune,
When I'm back on top, back on top in June."
- Big boy Frankie

by lexmarklover on Jun 25, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

winner.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Dan's going to try to duplicate his antics from yesterday.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...

He and SWL still need make-up time.

by Steven Schweickert on Jun 25, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

lights out this time, I hope

they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)

by Emelie on Jun 25, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah!

Like last night in Anaheim, I bet!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Preparing to hike to the summit of Mount Washington in New Hampshire on Saturday, July 10. Preparation hike up Mount Mansfield in Vermont planned for June 26....

State high point count: 2/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 25, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

The rumor is Dan bought some mood candles "just in case"

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

They couldn't find SWL's Barry White album.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

So they ended listening to Carley Simon


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jun 25, 2010 1:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Anticipation is making me wait"

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dan asked everyone to stay in the preview thread yesterday instead of going to the first pitch thread.

As a “protest” to the team’s play or something. It ended up being mostly just Dan and SWL in there. And they probably just needed the alone time for scrapbooking while watching the game and making out.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope not

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man that looks like Tracy Morgan, no?

I know it’s Flip WIlson, but I could see Tracy Morgan doing the same thing.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh. Yep.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Serious question

Does anyone else believe this season can be turned around?

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

by Ace Venom on Jun 25, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, but it has to start today.

We’re running out of time, but one nice 15-game win streak can get us right back in this.

by Steven Schweickert on Jun 25, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe they can if they start doing their job and start hitting but at this rate...no

"They say you don’t win a pennant in April, but you can sure lose one." - Ryan Dempster
"Stuttgart Kickers soccer player Sascha Bender once suffered a facial injury after being punched. The assailant, teammate Christian Okpala, said Bender "permanently provoked me by farting all the time." "

by razgriz23 on Jun 25, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I'm looking at just the Cubs.... No

But if I’m thinking Cincy is just a house of cards waiting for a strong wind and St. Louis will wake up soon and realize they only have 2 pitchers and a few hitters…

…then yeah, it could get interesting. But still highly improbable.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 25, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

For STL...

That’s two excellent, top-tier pitchers and arguably the best right-handed hitter in the game.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 25, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah and all three are pretty bankable. Their consistency has come from

the addition of Jaime Garcia who has pitched even better than Carp and Waino. The other two slots suck …so whether Garcia continues his performance is a big factor in their regular season to me. 3 of 5 great chances for a victory seems much different than 2 of 5.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you meant to say

the greatest hitter in the game today…

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by hansman1982 on Jun 25, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

It can


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jun 25, 2010 1:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No...

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 25, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

hell no

they’ll make you laugh (at them), they’ll make you cry (tears of desperation)

by Emelie on Jun 25, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why on God's green earth is Ramirez batting 5th?

I don’t think he did so well is his rehab starts

by Mapmaker on Jun 25, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

7th would be better...

Until he shows he can hit again.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 25, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it would be better

but that decison has been made long ago not to move him that far. Only mathematiclly could Ramirez possibly be worse this year and Lou will still hit him in the middle of the lineup.

I understand the rationale. If Ramirez and Lee don’t hit, there’s nothing this team is going to do anyway so you might as well hope they can turn it around and not be so horrible.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 25, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got Sori DHing and Theriot batting last. Which are good. Soto needs to be moved up,

and all I can say is Lou is gonna F up somewhere. Not great but Lou’s sure had worse lineups.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, we won yesterday. Neat.

Quick question that has nothing to do with that win, can someone explain to me again why we didn’t go after Scotty Pods?

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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 25, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Because he's...

Bad at baseball?

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 25, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a bad OF...

Makes Juan Pierre’s arm look like a rocket, is a bad baserunner, and is barely above replacement level value this year. Not sure I’m seeing it.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 25, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like how they let BOTH announcing teams do the games...

…I couldn’t handle 9 innings of Harrelson. He’s gotta be the most annoying play by play guy ever!!!

Ron Santo - .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Enough said ! Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Jun 25, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

WOW

surprised that noone has brought up PV!!!!!!

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Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119

by hansman1982 on Jun 25, 2010 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Pitch well today Z, show us you can have two good outings in a row.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha

see the Calvin and Hobbs picture above…

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by hansman1982 on Jun 25, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Note for you WGN America viewers out there..The game is on WGN today.

I don’t remember who said so, but it was said it was on CSN today, WGN Sunday.

Pregame is already on, and I’m glad to see Pierzynski getting punched as well as a ballgame today.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 25, 2010 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

The one good thing about Ed Farmer.

“Barrett punched Pierzynski right in the grill!”

by Steven Schweickert on Jun 25, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only thing Pierzynski ever did to make me smile.

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best

by Blue W on Jun 25, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It seems its on both Comcast and WGN

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jun 25, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then we

JUMP!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 25, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Why do we always get

stuck with the Sox broadcasters? They should mix it up alternate innings with each teams announcers, they all work fro WGN, or give us a Len & Steve or a Hawk & Bob combo. I swear if I hear “He Gone” one more more time I am going to scream. Can’t wait for these inteleague nightmares to end. Bring on the Cards & Reds.

13- Warner, 23- Sandberg, 40- Tillman, 11- Walter

by TBru on Jun 25, 2010 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

RICKETTS WAKE UP NOW!

I really hope the Rickettes family read this because has a Cub fan of 58 years I have had it with this team! We have gone 102 years without a winner and yet we have had to endure two seasons in a row now of Cubs not hitting! Our Iowa club could play better then this team. How long are you going to just sit their Mr Ricketts before you show the fans your fed up like we are of this club? Lou and Hendry must go now tobring up Sandberg and Maddoz the GM. Time to get rid of all these million dollar players like Lee, Zambrano, Ramiriz, Fuko and Lou! I had it and hope they lose 70 more games! Andy L

by Andy66 on Jun 25, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

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