Cubs Draft Profile--Karsten Whitson
Our preview of the Amateur draft continues today with a first-hand look at Karsten Whitson. Once again, I want to remind everyone that I did not write this and that the credit should go to Matt Marsden.
If you missed the first part of the series (and most of you seemed to have) you can just scroll down.
There are a lot of talented high school pitchers in this year’s class. Though Jameson Taillon is head and shoulders (both from a physical and talent standpoint) above the rest of the class, Karsten Whitson may very well be the #2 high school arm. He hails from Chipley HS in Florida and has the ideal pitcher's frame. Whitson stands in at 6-4, 190 lbs. and could very well add some velocity with his weight down the road. He showed to be athletic on the mound, as well as on the basketball court. Despite a somewhat up and down year, Whitson has shown plenty of potential.
I got the chance to see Whitson at the Under Armour All-American game last August at Wrigley. In his inning of work, his fastball was sitting between 92 and 94 mph. I saw Whitson throw a very impressive slider. The pitch usually registered in at 82 and showed very sharp break. He only threw one or two changeups, but they came in at 80 and it has enough potential to be a useful pitch. Despite the strong fastball and slider combo, Whitson struggled to throw strikes in his inning of work. He walked two hitters and was missing pitches in the dirt on a number of occasions. There are also some reports of Whitson throwing a 2-seam fastball, though I did not see it.
Mechanically, Whitson is what you would expect from a high school pitcher. There is nothing alarming, but a handful of things that could, and likely will be adjusted when he starts professional baseball. He throws from a high ¾ arm angle and does a nice job keeping his elbow above his shoulder. The biggest issue with his mechanics that I saw was that Whitson would often land stiff on his front foot. This could lead to some leg and hip issues, but will likely be fixed early on in pro ball. By even utilizing his stride to the plate more effectively, Whitson could see some increased velocity.
Where does he need to improve? Well, since he is a high school pitcher, Whitson needs work in all facets of the game. My biggest concern with him currently is the control. I am confident he will be able to make progress in the department since he does a decent job of repeating his delivery and is a strong athlete. Whitson’s slider needs to be more consistent. Although it was on when I saw him, reports have stated that he lacks consistency with that pitch. Obviously he will need to improve the changeup if he wants to start, and it would be nice to see a 2-seam fastball, as his 4-seam comes in a little straight.
As I mentioned yesterday, Tim Wilken does not have much of a history of drafting high school pitchers. Whitson would clearly not fit that bill, but he is a strong athlete, which is something Wilken has always placed a premium on. Due to the Cubs lack of track record with high school arms, I am concerned with how Whitson would be handled and player development director, Oneri Fleita does not exactly inspire me with confidence.
Whitson began to struggle a bit towards the end of the season. He got beat around after a 10 day lay-off where he threw over 130 pitches. According to Baseball America, there were 75 scouts in attendance for his poor start and his stock began to fall. It was not long after that when Whitson rebounded and had a very impressive start, where he hit 95 and 96 on the gun a couple times. At the moment, Whitson’s stock is rising for more than just that start.
A couple of the other likely high school first round arms have seen their stock drop recently. Both AJ Cole and Dylan Covey have not been showing their best stuff in the home stretch. The recent struggles by Covey and Cole could mean a handful of teams will prefer Whitson to the other two. If this is the case, Whitson may be off the board by the time the Cubs pick. He could go in the top 10 to the Mets at #7, but the most likely scenario is to the Blue Jays at #11 or to the Cubs at #16. Whitson certainly has the talent to be strong starting pitcher and it will be fun to see a high school arm in the system. I personally like, but am not enamored with him.
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Is Whitson any relation to former major league pitcher Ed Whitson?
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I haven't seen anyone
saying he is, so I assume that he isn’t since they always mention that Mel Rojas, Delino DeShields and Dickie Thon’s kids are all draft eligible this year.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, I do not seen anywhere in this post where it says he is either RHP or LHP?
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How old is he now?
The article doesn’t say other than he’s in high school. Your poll suggests he’s younger than 16…
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 4, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions
No, the "16" refers to the Cubs draft position.
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Ah, thanks. Guess it doesn't matter to me because I don't know anything much
about the draft prospects out there, but it could be helpful to someone that does.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jun 4, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
The MLB draft is suddenly evolving fast...
I’d prefer to see the Cubs select another collegiate player, like they did last year with Brett Jackson. The most talented first round college players are seemingly getting to the majors very quick in the last few years.
I think it’s a much safer pick, than a high school arm, which is years away from the majors, and more unpredictable.
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The Moneyball line
about college players being better investments than HS players is no longer true. It was in the 1990s when scouting directors turned their noses up at college players, but it hasn’t been true for almost a decade. Studies have been showing that HS players have about the same probability and level of success as college players lately.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
HS arms are just as much of an injury risk. Many college coaches pay little attention to pitch counts and some guys will be throwing 130+ pitches on a regular basis. This can spell disaster for the future of some of these kids.
Also, if you trust your minor league development personnel, then HS players may be a better option. This way you will get to spend more time with, and most likely have a greater impact on their future. This seems to be the philosophy the Braves have gone with over the years and it has worked out pretty well. That said, I don’t have the faith in the Cubs system, outside of Maddux’s help.
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The problem is...
This is a really weak year for the top position players in the college ranks. It’s to the point where many of the “safe” guys have likely ceilings of average everyday regulars. Yeah, Christian Colon might see the majors by 2011, but plenty of projections have him as an above average defender at 2B with an okay bat. That’s not the kind of player I’d want the Cubs to take at 16.
by Outshined_One on Jun 4, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Which I find strange
When they’ve listed Whitson to the Cubs, they haven’t said anything concrete about the Cubs’ interest. They’ve instead said things like:
The Cubs’ decision makers, GM Jim Hendry and scouting director Tim Wilken, are plugged in to their home state of Florida and would jump if either Cole or Whitson comes available.
The best value at this point might be whichever high school pitcher Chicago considers second-best to Taillon, and that sounds like Whitson.
That sounds a lot more like speculation than anything else to me.
by Outshined_One on Jun 4, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
It probably is speculation
But the Cubs haven’t really tipped their hand on any recent 1st round pick other than Vitters. So they go with what they can.
Keith Law
has his third mock draft out today and he has the Cubs taking Justin O’Conner, but mentions Delino DeShields Jr. as a possibiliy too.
I’m sure that would be an interesting conversation around here.
Junior DeShields makes a lot of sense
The Cubs love guys who come from baseball families and DeShields is supposed to be a really good athlete.
The two other big Georgia names who fit the bill similarly are RHP Cam Bedrosian and OF Aaron Shipman. I could see the Cubs take either of those guys in the second round.
by Outshined_One on Jun 4, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know anything about the draft...
but i sure hope they get Delino DeShields Jr. I liked Sr. a lot, and he has a really cool name. I liked Eric Young a lot too…I wish they had drafted his son…
by mic on Jun 4, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't like taking high school pitchers in general..
but the MLB draft is one of the biggest crapshoots in sports..
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Not sure about the first
round, where they should take the best player available, regardless of contract demands (in fact, one of the luxuries of being a top-market team SHOULD be the ability to effectively jump to a higher tier of player by taking guys the smaller market teams couldn’t afford).
But Wilkens, imo, needs to start thinking about the corner infield and outfield spots. I think a strength of the system is middle infield and outfield, but the corners, particularly the infield corners, seems to be a real weakness in the system. We are getting old and unproductive in a hurry at the MLB level, and don’t seem to have much coming up the pipeline. I’d like to see that be a focus in this draft.
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So, given that this has been
the only player profile to date, and with the draft so close, is it then the official BCB position that the Cubs will/should take Whitson?
I'm good with Whitson
o’Connor, or Josh Sale. I should probably be happy with P B/rett Eibner as well.
Where is the pre-game?
WEIRDEST lineup yet
Byrd
Riot
D.Lee
A-Ram
Dome
Alfonso
Geo
Starlin
Z
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Good Lord,
Theriot still at the top of the lineup, and Ramirez hitting cleanup. Tell me this is a joke, Dan.
by Damen Jackson on Jun 4, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
%#$#@$!!
Piniella is so thick sometimes it’s damn frustrating. This has the makings of a great Downfall parody though.
by Damen Jackson on Jun 4, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The game starts at 7.
Thus, the pregame goes up at 5, as usual.
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Whoops. Thought it was at 605 for some reason.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
lou is really trying hard to get fired
that has to be one of the worst lineups i have ever seen
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