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Strasburg lives up to the hype


7IP, 4H, 2R, FOURTEEN FREAKING STRIKEOUTS, No walks, 94 pitches.

That 94 pitches impresses the hell out of me. He got 14 strikeouts on 94 pitches. He faced 24 batters, which means it was an average of 3.91 pitches per at-bat.

That's freaking badass. He's in line for the win.

I'd make a joke about facing a AAAA team, but since the Pirates own the Cubs, I'll refrain.

Don't hate. He's the man.

Learn it, love it, live it.

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Redonkulous

I’m stunned.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 8, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not surprised.

Most teams can beat the Pirates ;)

Nevertheless, very VERY impressive.

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Jun 8, 2010 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Ridiculous

His stuff is probably the best in MLB, the only guy that might be close right now is Jimenez from the Rockies.

by JSB on Jun 8, 2010 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

His stuff is sick.

In a good way.

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by RynoHoF on Jun 8, 2010 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Impressively impressive.

Let’s see if he keeps it going. He won’t face the Cubs till August, if then.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 8, 2010 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

...where he will match up against still unbeaten Carlos Silva

in a duel for the ages!

Ready? Fight!

"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.

by Goodie1969 on Jun 8, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, once you unlock Vader, it's pretty much over.

He’s basically unbeatable if you know what you’re doing.

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by Goodie1969 on Jun 9, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just got done listening to the game...

he was outstanding. It’s a new day for the Nationals, no doubt about it.

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by brook on Jun 8, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

If they were to trade for Oswalt...

… or any other solid veteran starter, they could be a wild card contender.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 8, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on how much the Lerners will loosen up the purse strings...

after all, they’re going to have to pay and pay to sign Bryce Harper.

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by brook on Jun 8, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of ...

How would that trade of Oswalt for Strasburg look now?

Yes, good for him, though good for me too. I drafted him in my fantasy league.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 8, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Steve Phillips would have done it.

The Nats should be glad he’s not their GM.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 8, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to the Jason Marquis Rules

All they have to do is keep Marquis on their team and they will make the playoffs.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Jun 9, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does he have to play?

Or is the DL sufficient?

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by Al Yellon on Jun 10, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess we'll find out

Though the way Marquis has pitched so far this year they might be better off with him on the DL.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Jun 10, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

i watched some of this game

on MLB TV—it was in the top of the 4th when i got home from work. What impressed me most was his mental make up. After giving up a home run to Young, he absolutely shut the Bucs down. He was actually getting stronger as the game went on and he settled in. He struck out the side in his last half inning and he was still throwing 97-99 mph. He had that velocity and the movement on his 4 seam should be illegal. I’m very impressed, it’s one of the few times I’ve seen someone outdo his hype. If he can avoid Prior Syndrome he has a very successful career ahead of him.

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by snowyman28 on Jun 8, 2010 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

He's outstanding

All of this Hall of Fame talk is premature, but the Nats are lucky to have him.

by Pre on Jun 8, 2010 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Think they will be interest in trading him for Z?

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by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 8, 2010 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

No

Lol

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by mikegncb34 on Jun 8, 2010 11:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

maybe if the Cubs throw in Theriot?

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by lookingdeadred on Jun 9, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

Instead of Theriot, they want Miles.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would trade our entire starting rotation

plus any two other players the Nats wanted.

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by Worf on Jun 9, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

his curveball

is nasty as hell. i think the kid k comparisons are accurate

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by jesus christos on Jun 8, 2010 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Which pitch is his best?

I can’t decide between his 98 MPH 4-seamer, his wicked curve or his 95 MPH sinker. All of it is filthy.

by JSB on Jun 8, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or it could be his change up

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by DTJchris on Jun 8, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did it against the Pirates

Big deal. I know the Cubs can’t beat the Pirates, but come on. It’s a good debut, but don’t hype anything up. I’d have been more impressed if he did this against a contender in his debut.

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by Ace Venom on Jun 8, 2010 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

14k on 94 pitches

is badass no matter who it is

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by Worf on Jun 8, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I say good for him

He got a soft landing and he excelled against a weak Pirates team.

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by Ace Venom on Jun 8, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why hasn't every "good" pitcher that faces the Pirates

strike out 14 batters in less than 100 pitches? It was an incredible showing by a 21-year-old pitcher, no matter what team he was facing.

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by DTJchris on Jun 8, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why doesn't every "good" pitcher that faces the Marlins pitch a perfect game?

It was an amazing debut, but it was against a club that’s hitting .236 as a team.

by Pre on Jun 8, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

I think you are missing my point. I was just saying that it shouldn’t matter what team a pitcher faces when they put on a great performance, it should be about the performance. Yeah, the Pirates are not a good team, but I don’t think that should take away from Strasburg’s performance.

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by DTJchris on Jun 8, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worf I request you get an avatar.

I hate your stupid star thing.

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by dtpollitt on Jun 8, 2010 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

How about this one?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 8, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have been dating a K-Stater for months now.

Hell, the entire family—all 6 of them—K-Staters. Went to a wedding last weekend, Willie the Wildcat showed up. Kid’s fifth birthday party over Memorial Day? Dad had K-State tattoo. License plate something stupid about K-State. Don’t get me started.

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by dtpollitt on Jun 9, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll leave it up to the masses to choose

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by Worf on Jun 9, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Found one

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I watched his last 4 innings.

Absolutely unbelievable. He was hitting 99 on a regular basis. 82 MPH curveball. Filthy slider. Dude has amazing talent. I hope he stays healthy, because if so, he’s going to be one of the best pitchers in baseball for a long, long time.

by kanderber on Jun 8, 2010 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

96 MPH sinker

thats ubaldo nasty

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by jesus christos on Jun 8, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Went to the game

There really are no words to describe that insane debut. Absolutely filthy start to finish.

by 08Cubs on Jun 8, 2010 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow.

Nice seats.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 9, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Not used to seeing that stadium packed like that.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Easily

the best game ever in the ballpark.

by 08Cubs on Jun 9, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should do a OT Fanpost on it

Ken Burns threw out the first pitch. I think he thinks Strasburg is the start of the “11th Inning”…here comes the pitcher’s era again?

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Jun 9, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

To my untrained eye, that form is really Prior-esque.

And I’m saying that b/c it’s alarming. Didn’t someone recently write some big article about how Prior’s arms made an “M” shape at that point in his delivery and that caused a problem?

It’s probably just the angle on the photo. Or the stirrups, which are also Prior-esque.

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by D98 on Jun 9, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/RethinkingPitching/Essays/DeathToTheInvertedW.html

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by jesus christos on Jun 9, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

But that means he has PERFECT mechanics!

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

for throwing towels?

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by lookingdeadred on Jun 10, 2010 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed that...

hopefully he doesnt suffer the same fate…god to be that good that young….sound familiar?

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by hansman1982 on Jun 9, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

paging Dr. Mike Marshall....

I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.

by EalyEagle on Jun 9, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

His delivery reminds me more of Ubaldo Jimenez.

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by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 11, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

This dude...

…reminds me so much of Kerry Wood back in 1998 – very similar stuff. Wood didn’t have the change, but Wood’s fastball and breaking ball were almost identical.

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by MPH73 on Jun 8, 2010 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah...

thought the same thing. Watching those strikeouts over and over in sequence with that nasty breaking ball reminded me of the 20 K game.

by RichieAllenIn1966 on Jun 8, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/09/yeah-but-can-strasburg-do-it-again/

He didn’t even look at the scouting report of his opponent during his pitching debut.

yeah…

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by jesus christos on Jun 9, 2010 1:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, but

he essentialy let Pudge call the game for him. I don’t think he shook him off at all and in the post game press conference, Pudge said that he regretted calling for a change-up when he should have called for a fastball. That was on the HR.

I’m just saying that Pudge should get some credit here too. He called the game. Strasburg jsut went and threw what Pudge told him to.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 9, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK then

Next time I’ll go out there and just throw to Pudge and I’ll strike out 14.

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by danimal15 on Jun 9, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amazing, how people want to hate on this kid

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by Worf on Jun 9, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is what we never had for an extended healthy period of time

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by jesus christos on Jun 9, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on your meaning of "never"

Remember, when Fergie Jenkins was in his 20s, he won 20 games a year for six consecutive years for the Cubs, including a 24-win season in 1971.

"They found a delivery in my flaw." - Dan Quisenberry

by danimal15 on Jun 9, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Making some of us jealous

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 10, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eh

I think Danimal was making fun of JMR more than he was of SS.

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by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 11, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the record

I’m not trying to say anything negative about Strasburg. It was an incredible performance and he could become one of the all-time greats.

My only comment was in regards to Strasburg not looking at scouting reports. My point was that he didn’t need to because Pudge called the game. Why would you need to look at scouting reports if you were just going to throw what the catcher told you? In my book, he doesn’t get “credit” despite not looking at the scouting report. Pudge did that for him. Of course, credit for executing those pitches as magnificently as he did should solely go to Strasburg.

That doens’t diminish what the kid can throw or the pitcher he is right now or can become in the future. It’s nasty, filthy stuff and this performance was unbelievable. I’m looking forward to every next start he makes. I drafted him in my fantasy league, so I’ve got added incentive for him to do great.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 15, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

The type of pitcher that has hitters guessing so much that they look stupid up there. Baseball needs guys like this to come along. It’s exciting for the game.

I know it’s “only the Pirates” but they’re still a major league team.

Scott Bora$ is satan.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jun 9, 2010 5:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

By comparison

June 8th, 2010:
1st Major League Appearance/Start
Home vs Pittsburgh
7 innings pitched
4 hits
2 earned runs
1 home run surrendered
0 walks
94 pitches
65 strikes
Win
—-Stephen Strasburg, 21, San Diego

May 22nd, 2002:
1st Major League Appearance/Start
Home vs Pittsburgh
6 innings pitched
4 hits
2 earned runs
1 home run surrendered
2 walks
103 pitches
65 strikes
Win
—-Mark Prior, 21, San Diego

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by Gibbon Jockey on Jun 9, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

The one difference that stands out is the pitch count

Prior was 103 in 6 innings. Strasburg was 94 in 7 innings with 14 K’s. Prior had 10 K’s in his debut.

by rlpete on Jun 9, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would trade the Cubs full organization of players for the Nationals' players, and wouldn't think twice.

And that makes me so sad I think I could cry. The Nationals? Dammit.

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by D98 on Jun 9, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

If he was a Cub

The guy would break down just like Wood and Prior did. That’s our luck.

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by Ace Venom on Jun 9, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Every young pitcher should send Prior a fruit basket

because teams are now terrified of ruining them.

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by Worf on Jun 9, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think that hes going to reach his inning limit by sept

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by jesus christos on Jun 9, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Inning limit?

If you said that at a Dusty Baker presser in 2003, he’d laugh at you and call you a p*ssy.

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by D98 on Jun 9, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

I don’t think he ever threw more than 6 innings in the minors, but the issue with an “inning limit” is what if the Nats are still in contention come September, and Stras has thrown somewhere around 160 innings this year, do they keep pitching or sit him the rest of the year and possibly drop out of contention?

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you mean 160 ML innings or 160 in general?

he threw about 55 in the minors

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by jesus christos on Jun 9, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

innings

He will hit a limit, because he just hasn’t thrown enough in the minors, where they failed to stretch him out. They’d be crazy to let him go over a certain amount of innings this year – if they do, I’ll bet you dollars to donuts he’s getting Tommy John surgery next year.

I blame this on MLB in general, which seems to have developed a dread fear of putting any kind of serious workload on minor league pitchers. Then they get to the majors, are expected to pitch normal workloads – say 100 pitches, 7 IP per game – and they flame out.

I don’t think Stras threw as many as 100 pitches even once in the minors. You can’t be successful in the majors if you can’t regularly throw 100 or even 110 pitches a game. (Unless you strike out 14 batters on 94 pitches in 7 IP every time. If you can do that, all bets are off!)

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by danimal15 on Jun 9, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

in general

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont know

maybe theyll keep starting him until they clinch or get knocked out and then shut him down. if they clinch they might just start him back up for the postseason

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by jesus christos on Jun 9, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clinch

It’s crazy that we’re even having a conversation about the possibility of Washington in the posteseason.

How about these 4 NL teams in the postseason:

Nats
Reds
Padres
Braves.

It’s a possibility, and no one would have guessed.

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by danimal15 on Jun 9, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

About a month ago the Nats were talking a bout a 150 IP limit for the season

Minors and majors combined.

Which makes me think there really shouldn’t be an inning count so much as a pitch count. If Lilly throws 90 pitches in 8 innings, and someone like Gio Gonzalez throws 100 pitches in 5 IP, multiply it over 30 starts and Lilly could throw 300 less pitches a season but 90 more innings.

The question to me is, if the Nats are in contention when Strasburg is around 120 IP and they are serious about the IP limit, should they move him into the bullpen so he can stay on their active roster all year?

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Jun 9, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somewhere Online

I read a report saying that the Nats will limit his innings after the All-Star break somehow. Shutting him down or maybe in the pen. Then they’ll put him back in the rotation for the stretch run.

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by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 11, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

160 pitches

How about if they let him throw more than 160 pitches in a start, as Don Zimmer did with (barely) 22-year old Greg Maddux in 1988? (It was an 10.2 inning start, though, so the pitches just added up.)

Luckily, no long-term damage to Maddux.

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by danimal15 on Jun 9, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maddux

The start I’m referring to occurred on May 17, 1988, vs. St. Louis.

Maddux threw 167 pitches, and I’m betting a whole bunch of them happened in the 11th inning, when he allowed 5 consecutive hits after two were out. Zimmer finally pulled him. Cubs lost 3-0.

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by danimal15 on Jun 9, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

When was the last time the Cubs had the #1 pick in the draft in consecutive years? Or ever?

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by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 11, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just wait till you see more of Andrew Cashner....

As a league scout said this days ago

Cashner has the stuff to do the job. One scout at the game Friday compared him with Nationals much-hyped rookie Stephen Strasburg, who is to make his major league debut Tuesday. "If Strasburg is better than this guy, then he has to be awfully good," he said.

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by SackMan on Jun 9, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I remember a quote similar to this in '98

Someone from an opposing team went up to someone in the Cub organization (Sorry it’s so fuzzy) during spring training after a Kerry Wood start and after the Cubs anounced that he would go the minors to start the season. He told the Cub official that the Cubs were going to win the World Series. When asked why by the Cub official, the other guy said “Because you must have 5 better starters than Wood if you’re sending him to the minors.”

by jerry morales rules on Jun 9, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The person who said that was Terry Collins, who was then Angels manager.

He had seen Wood throw against his team in spring training and was impressed. Obviously, Wood didn’t have to wait too long to come to the majors.

Too bad his prediction didn’t come true.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 9, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that was a prediction :)

More like a sarcastic slap in the face… as in: “What the heck are you doing? You just sent your best pitcher down to the minors.”

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

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by SackMan on Jun 9, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I can see that.

Still, I wish that prediction had come true. Then, or any year since then.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 9, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not just that

But someone wrote an article about Simpson one year ago saying he could be the next Strasburg. It’s in the fanshots.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

You can tell Cashner has got the stuff. He will be fun to watch..no doubt.

by Ryno G on Jun 11, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty cool

that Riggleman got to bring up Woody and now Strasburg.

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by AGC on Jun 9, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Or maybe...

…whether Strasburg’s mechanics hold up a little better, how about that?

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by MPH73 on Jun 9, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

Wood absolved Riggleman. That story has been beaten to death. His mechanics were just awful.

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by AGC on Jun 9, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is why

I want Cashner in the rotation. A guy with plus stuff that can succeed as a starter is much, much more valuable than a setup guy.

Not that Cashner will be anything close to Strasburg — but he can be a TOR guy.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jun 9, 2010 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't mind the current plan.

Use him in setup and long relief for this year, and heck, maybe next year, then transition him to the rotation.

Johan Santana did it when he was young and starting out, and I basically trust everything the Twins do over everything the Cubs do.

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by D98 on Jun 9, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of guys had to start that way...

Orel Hersheiser comes to mind too.

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by SackMan on Jun 9, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox were going to do that with Jonathan Papelbon.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) for them, Papelbon was too good as a closer.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 9, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

he will most likely return to the rotation next season

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by jesus christos on Jun 9, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

That seems likely

as it would appear at least two of the current crop of starters will not be wearing a Cub uni next season.

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by lookingdeadred on Jun 9, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meaning Lilly and Silva?

And maybe Gorz?

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lilly almost certainly is gone if the Cubs become sellers

Silva will have suitors, too, if he keeps up this pace. Both could return some pieces with which to begin a rebuilding process. Gorzo would bring less in return, but is certainly worth dealing.

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by lookingdeadred on Jun 10, 2010 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

even though I would of liked to see another month or two under Cashner’s belt to continue to see if this dominance would of held up.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jun 9, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I presume you mean Lilly and Silva?

Possibly Gorz too.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

I meant Cashner. While he was starting in the minors.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jun 9, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reply fail

That was supposed to go to looking dreaded’s comment above.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

impressive performance last night by Cashner

it will all depend on how well he can master his off speed stuff.

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by lookingdeadred on Jun 10, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

The priority is to help the big club now

and Cashner can do that best working out of the pen. However, this does not mean he cannot transition to the rotation next year if that is what the big club needs him for.

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by lookingdeadred on Jun 9, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

or even late in the year

if we are out of it and Lilly gets traded at the deadline…

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by hansman1982 on Jun 9, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cashner

I like how they’re using him. The Cubs’ rotation isn’t the problem now, it’s their bullpen. They need a RH who can be effective ahead of Marmol. Cashner appears to be the guy. I agree that he’s eventually someone to put into the rotation, but I don’t see the hurry.

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by danimal15 on Jun 9, 2010 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow wow wow wow wow

My Gosh was he un freaking believable! I watched his facial expressions all throughout the game. I didn’t see it change. It was the same after the long ball as it was on every other pitch. It was the same facial expression no matter if he was bringing that illegal 99mph heater and the same with the 81mph unworldly curve.

I won’t miss his starts the rest of the season. I haven’t been this amazed in by a pitcher in 10 years, not even Halladay.

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by cubsluver22 on Jun 9, 2010 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Makes me wish I had taken the metro to see the game.

Yeah, same excuse: too busy. I regret it. Oh, well….I wonder if he will pitch against the Cubs here in DC?

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by zevkalman on Jun 9, 2010 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Big Bad Wolf Strasburg

What big ears you have….the better to hear the ball whiz past your bat.

What big eyes you have….the better to watch you strike out.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Jun 9, 2010 11:48 PM CDT reply actions  

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