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Going For Three In A Row: Cubs vs. Phillies Preview, Saturday 7/17, 12:05 CT

Another look at Aramis Ramirez's game-winning HR in the 8th inning yesterday - here he rounds the bases.

Just a few notes before the Cubs and Phillies go at it in a noon start today:

  • I loved one particular part of Marlon Byrd's quote in this article which was mostly about his two-run homer yesterday:
    "Playing baseball is the best job in the world."
    If only all ballplayers felt that way.
  • The major league record for strikeouts in a season by a pitcher who pitched exclusively in relief is 181, by the Red Sox' Dick Radatz in 1964. It was a different era; Radatz threw 157 innings. The NL record is 157, by Brad Lidge for the Astros in 2004 in 94.2 innings. Carlos Marmol has 81 in 42.2 innings in 42 appearances. That projects to 33 more appearances and (likely) about 33 more innings and (approximately) 64 more K's at that pace, which would give him 145. That would rank him seventh on the reliever-only list (with far fewer innings than anyone above him), and would keep him on pace to keep his 27th place ranking in the entire National League this year.
  • According to Bruce Miles, the Cubs entered yesterday with a 26-19 record while allowing three runs or less. They added one to that win total with yesterday's win; you can see how scoring only a run more every now and then would have been a big help, especially with the team's record in one-run games (12-20). If the Cubs could have won even four of the one-run games they have lost -- to be at .500 at 16-16 -- that would have had them now at only five games out of first place.

    There's still time to turn this around, but they need a run right now.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Randy Wells
Randy Wells
Cubs
vs. Cole Hamels
Cole Hamels
Phillies
4-7 W-L 7-7
4.61 ERA 3.78
83 SO 107
28 BB 39
8 HR 19
vs. Phi -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Randy Wells 4-7 18 18 0 0 0 0 105.1 119 55 54 8 28 83 4.61 1.40


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Cole Hamels 7-7 18 18 0 0 0 0 112.0 110 50 47 19 39 107 3.78 1.33

Cole Hamels is 3-1, 2.61 in five career starts vs. the Cubs, but has not faced them since August 28, 2008, when he held the Cubs to one run in seven innings and the Phillies bullpen blew the game; the game-winning hit was a grand slam by Aramis Ramirez, who is one of the hottest hitters in baseball right now. That'd work for me. Alfonso Soriano has homered three times off Hamels in 26 AB, but overall is only 5-for-26 against him.

Randy Wells has made 45 major league starts, but has never faced the Phillies. Only two current Phillies, backup C Brian Schneider (2-for-3) and OF Ben Francisco (1-for-3) have ever faced him. Advantage Wells? Who knows? Wells has a 2.18 ERA in his last three starts (1-2 record over 20.2 innings and a 1.02 WHIP), so hopefully that continues this afternoon.

Today's game is again on the CSN's -- both Chicago and Philadelphia. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

SB Nation game preview

Please visit our SB Nation Phillies site The Good Phight.

Today's first pitch thread will be up at 12 noon CDT, and the overflows will post at 1 pm, 2 pm and 2:45 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Good to see Aram (finally) swingin a hot bat

However, its awful late in season. Phils look to the cubs, as cubs look to pirates… I need to see us win 6 of next 8, at home, to even consider the cubs making this season interesting. Go get em cubs!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

precisely my point in the fanpost below

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/7/16/1573159/do-you-believe-in-miracles

I’m a Cubs fan, but an idealistic realist. Let’s see where this goes.

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 17, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll check it out asap

Cookin and changing AC filters now, lucky me, uh? Thanks for providing link!

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by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, good read

At least in your scenario, even if unlikely, we’d regain some respectability!

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by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Playing baseball is the best job in the world"

This is so great to hear and something a lot of players seem to take for granted. Overpaid, babied jerks like Milton and Z should have to write this on the blackboard 1000 times every day.

I’m ordering my Marlon Byrd jersey!

Cub fan since 1969 and Im not taking my avatar down until they show up in a playoff series.

by tedinSoCal on Jul 17, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Aint it funny what a statement of "simple truth"

can mean to the fans? classy guy, Mr. Byrd

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm about ready to invest in another jersey after that one

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 17, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

I’m not totally sure how long he’ll stick around. My next jersey will probably be TyCo.

"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 17, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

When I think back on this rotton season

He has been someone that even when almost everyone else was struggling offensively still was playing good ball. Not to mention his good glove work. There is a reason why he was the Cubs AS.

Any ball player can say that, he’s actually backed it up.

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

excellent point

i think that seperates the “pros” from the average mlb player

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

That sure is great to hear,

although I’d have to disagree with him. I like my job better. :) I personally would hate playing baseball. Love his attitude. It’s so refreshing.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 17, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

you are very good @ your job :)

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks!

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 17, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pitch well today Randy.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 17, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Hello Sue

My daughters in from CA with da “grand-kid”, u seem quite the cook… any suggestions for Grilled Jumbo (U13) Shrimp?

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go Cajun-style

Adjust accordingly, obvs: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Grilled-New-Orleans-Style-Shrimp-108335

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank You Clutch

I’ll check it out! I was kinda hoping for something with alil “zip” to it!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds deeeelicious!

Thanks again Clutch, i think you just made up my mind! I’ve made something similar, but was more of a sauteed dish and placed more emphasis on “cracked black pepper”. I’ll let ya know how it went after Tues Nites Dinner! Heck, i wanna make some now!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Olive oil, Garlic (plenty of), juice from two fresh lemons, Parsley, Tomato paste, small chunks of 3 "Egg" tomatoes, Tabasco sauce (red)
  • Make a nice “sauce” with the above,
  • shell shrimps,
  • lay out shrimps in a single layer in large flat pan,
  • cover with “sauce”,
  • grill in hot preheated oven (but not too long),
  • enjoy!!!

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and don't forget a tad of pepper...

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you eths

I’d just made up mind to try Cluths cajun… now, maybe i’ll try both? I never met a shrimp i didn’t like! :0

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually both our family version and that cajun recipe sound rather similar.

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Letting the shrimps soak in the sauce for a few hours is a good idea by the way...

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have never heard of U13 Shrimp before

Are these shrimp so big that they are named after U boats?

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 17, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a way of designating how much weight each piece carries

Can also be seen as 13# – basically, the packaging is telling you that there are (on average) 13 shrimp to a pound within.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

No vonde6

The ’U" stands for “Under”. , the number, in this case “13”, means there are less than (under) 13 per pound. In other words, big suckers!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

A few jobs back

I was hosting my counterparts from London and Stockholm for a powwow in my city. As they were travelling with corporate credit cards, we (of course) had to make heavy use of them. Going to my favorite restaurant near the office was required.

We ordered the shrimp cocktail app, and as it arrived, the English dude took one look and said, “My word, the level of the sea must have dropped!” I don’t think he was quite used to American-style food yet…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Lookin forward to Tues… thanks again! Eths added another suggestion…think I’ll make both! Less work to do with the larger shrimp too! ’sides, when properly prepared, you cant beat the flavor! gotta run, try to be back during the game. Go Cubs! even 3 of 4 would be swweeeet!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

morning jeff...stretch

gonna watch the game today?

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup!

Just gotta run some errands first. Seeya back here during the “later innings”?

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

sounds good!

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

vonder6

I had wondered the same thing

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is the modern U13 (1973)

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Das Boot

Hello eths. nice to see you again mensch.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hiya SET!

Gotsta go- maybe back during the game…

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

all right.

take her easy then

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Schön dass du hier bist!

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry jeff.

I’m not a fan of grilled shrimp. Enjoy your grandchild. :D

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 17, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bacon?

did you say bacon?! :] gotta go…later all!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gonna have some

really good bacon tomorrow Em. ;-)

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 17, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder what shrimps wrapped in bacon would... Better not even think about it.

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not unusual

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/rachael-ray/bacon-wrapped-shrimp-and-scallops-recipe/index.html

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

not a bacon fan

Only way I’ll eat it, was in gramma’s german potato salad

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

MCF

I recall memories of my grammas German Pot Salad too! Sweet n always served warm! Yummy!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS ??? Pot Salad ???

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking he meant potato?

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

And I thought he might have a wammy grammy. ;-)

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too funny!

Gram …oops… GrandMA was ok, made it to 96 yrs old. later you two guys!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

night jeff...

try some brownies tomorrow heh

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Back in 90 mins or so

“brownies” you say??? Hmmm… :]

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

...

http://www.doktorsnake.com/images/hash-brownies.jpg

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Eths!

’sides, that leaf found only in “Colombian” German Potato Salad"! ;)

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or Dutch or Moroccan or Afghanistan...

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhh...

you’re “better educated” than I… in my day, it was Mexican/Jamacian or (if u got lucky), Colombian. I’m an old fart!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Theres that word again-

location, location, location! Seeya in 90 mins or so!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Sue

Its only my “kinda grand-kid”… lives with her Mom for 15 yrs, her biological father died (age 48) the day before baby born!…ouch! So, i kinda, sorta “adopted” the lil guy…

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

As long as he is loved

is all that counts.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 17, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oops, I meant

I live*d* with her mom for 15 yrs! Seeya during the game thread?

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

the Cubs need more than a run right now

they need another historic set of clawing, scratching marathons they’ve posted in the past .. ala 2007

Marlon Byrd is a stud. The Cubs would be insane to trade him or Lilly. If this club’s ever gong to have any hope for the future, they’re who it will be built upon.

Of course, sanity in the Cubs’ front office is not well noted (see “Howry, Bob: 2010 Cubs Acquisition,” pp. 12-25, paragraph C).

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 17, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Would you like to join my Keep Ted Lilly Rooters Club?

We could use some more members.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 17, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

:raises hand:

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

welcome

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 17, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can I have two membership applications?

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will personally speak to the membership of the Jim Edmonds Fan Club

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/6/1/543742/minutes-from-the-jim-edmon

If you serve blueberry muffins at the next meeting, I know you’ll get several people. Guaranteed.

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 17, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was a member of that fanclub

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gosh

Look at how fun this place was when the Cubs were WINNING!

"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 17, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

sign me up!

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

the more the merrier

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 17, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ted Lilly and Marlon Byrd?

By hope for the future do you mean this year? Or in future years? Because if you mean the latter, I hope to goodness that we aren’t building our team around a couple of 30-somethings who have finished in the top 10 of either the Cy Young or MVP race.

by JSB on Jul 17, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hello BrazCubFan

You post, or used to post on Yahoo, didn’t you? You should get at least some additional info from comcastsports.com , no?

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hear tell our own Vermont Cubs Fan will be at today's contest

Al and Ballhawk, are you guys planning to meet up with him?

I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.

by EalyEagle on Jul 17, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd bet good money that they're both already at the ballpark

Send ’em a tweet.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

with allie as well.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

FYI if anyone is reading this...

… I did hear from VCF. He will be sitting with us in the bleachers Sunday night, trying to change his (and the team’s) luck.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 17, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lineup? Bench strength

Nady time? He sure has been a bust, continuing FO’s misfires on finding a productive bench. Is it that tough? Who’s the last really good spare guy we had? I don’t count DeRosa since he became a semi-regular. Reed Johnson was pretty good and had the mentality to be a role player, but they seem tough to find/keep.

by QuincyCub on Jul 17, 2010 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Randal Simon

He came from Pittsburgh in the 2003 trade that brought Ramirez and Lofton. Did a pretty good job for the Cubs right through the playoffs of that star-crossed year.

"All I'm asking for is what I want." -- Ricky Henderson

by sweetswinger on Jul 17, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

actually same line up

2b riot, rf colvin, 1b lee, 3b ramy, cf byrd, lf sori, c soto, ss castro, p wells

Just happy to see Soto in there again. Lou’s playing him 3 days in a row!

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

He needs to switch the top 2

with the bottom two (soto, castro)… Have Colvin bat behind Sori.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jul 17, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Time to win a third straight game and start to convince the doubters that we still have a chance....

 
If only I could be really, really sure about the convince the doubters part.
 

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm staying out of the discussion

I’m a doubter, but I am giving that very little thought, as I just want to enjoy them playing well.

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think everybody enjoys them playing well and playing well does have its side effects.

Like, for example, improving ones chances.

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fools gold...

too little too late.

Let Hendry trade high now.

by The E-Man on Jul 17, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

cute :)

"That's life, that's what all the people say.
You're riding high in April,
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune,
When I'm back on top, back on top in June."
- Big boy Frankie

by lexmarklover on Jul 17, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

stir the kool-aid, eths!

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 17, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

"There's still time to turn this around, but they need a run right now."

So, the team wins two in a row, and now you have once again fooled yourself into this thinking?

Do you read what you write, Al? What you saw before the break?

Do you know how many teams they have to jump? And, they still have to play the Pirates again?

Do you see what I see with some of the players messing their pants with two outs and RISP (see, Theriot, Ryan)?

Here’s an oil drum full of Blue Koolaid for you, Al!

by The E-Man on Jul 17, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

gimme some mo

Blue Kool-Aid Pictures, Images and Photos

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 17, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gimme some of that too.

I think we’re all aware of how improbable it would be.loosen up e man!

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

British Open update

Oosterhuizen drops a shot now -11 leads Casey and Stenson by 3. Woods (-3) 8 back thru 9 holes, Mickelson done. Calcavecchia opens with 3 straight bogeys to fall to -3 no senior storyline on Sunday this year.

by QuincyCub on Jul 17, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Oosterhuizen???

Did he play “striker” on the Dutch soccer team?

by The E-Man on Jul 17, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Everybody in the Final

Was a “striker”, it seemed.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

My optimism might return ...

if we beat Hamels and Halladay. Everyone seems to forget the 7-0 drubbing against the Dodgers SIX DAYS AGO.

The best thing about what we’re seeing now is that Aramis won’t be a dead weight in 2011.

by elgato on Jul 17, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 17, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Won't be easy to do for sure.

Hamels and Holliday…gonna be rough. we need Wells to pitch well for sure

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's hope it

continues -

However, we needed the current version of A-Ram in April, May, and June.

by The E-Man on Jul 17, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell I'd settle for 2 out of 3

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

If the Cubs can’t go 4-1 or 5-0 until Wednesday, it’s time to deal Lilly and anyone else it makes sense to deal. And even if that happens, I’d be hesitant to keep Lilly if the Reds and Cardinals don’t lose a few.

by elgato on Jul 17, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

26-19 when allowing less than four runs..?!?!? Wow.. that's just...

Honestly, that is absolutely abysmal. That means that there have been nearly twenty times, or about 20- 25% of the games we’ve played this year, where we couldn’t score more than 2 runs in nine innings.

by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 17, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Not too late .. this year can still be interesting

Beating up on the Dodgers and the Phillies is a good sign that, as I have always said, the Cubs definitely have the horses to beat with.

I think we can win today .. pass me the blue Kooaid!

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 17, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Happy Kitty approves of happy kitten

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

that has looked like The Joker's kitty.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

not so!

The Jokers a “dog dude”… 50 pounds n over only please? ;)

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like this?

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 17, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't It?

About this time of the year in 2003 that Hendry pulled off the trade with Pittsburgh that brought Ramirez, Lofton, and Randal Simon and turned the season around? I can’t recall their record at the time. It wasn’t great, but they probably weren’t nine under .500 either.

"All I'm asking for is what I want." -- Ricky Henderson

by sweetswinger on Jul 17, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

That was July 23, 2003

The Cubs were in 4th place in the Central on that date, trailing the Reds by 10.5 games.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Wow! I had no idea we were that far behind the Reds on that date.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jul 17, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

man me either.

Funny to look back at that season and see it.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

When the Braves need a 9th-inning rally

They’ll play a video on the Jumbotron in the middle of the 9th showing highlights from a past game where they had rallied in the 9th and beat the other team. The end of the video is always the same: “We did it before, and we can do it again.”

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow!

Didn’t recall they were that far behind at the time. Twopeat?

"All I'm asking for is what I want." -- Ricky Henderson

by sweetswinger on Jul 17, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mean to question you..

but are you sure that was 2003? According to baseball reference the furtherest we were behind was 5.5 and that was on July 23rd.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jul 17, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got that from B-R

http://www.baseball-reference.com/games/standings.cgi?date=2003-7-23

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those standings look like this years.

Not sure what the error is crossed up at.

Maybe next year is finally our year.

by Unique on Jul 17, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very observant - thanks

http://www.baseball-reference.com/games/standings.cgi?year=2003&month=7&day=23&submit=Submit+Date

That’s the actual standings on 07-23-2003. Cubs in 3d place, 5 games behind the Astros (!). Sitting at .500

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man that was a sweet trade.

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 17, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

good memory

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 17, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hello cubs fans! I haven't been around for a while

Anyone know what the analyst/booth musical chairs is all about? I hope motormouth isn’t doing color today :P

"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."

by windycitywarrior on Jul 17, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

BB is in Florida, watching his son play ball in Daytona

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, ok. Thank you

"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."

by windycitywarrior on Jul 17, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually enjoyed

Kieth Moreland the other day!

on the sands of hesitation, lie the bones of countless millions, who, at the brink of the best, sat down to rest, and resting...they died. Author Unknown

by jeffstorm2 on Jul 17, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Garrr, you crazy kittens!

JUMP!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 17, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

JUMP

"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster

by eths on Jul 17, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

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