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Aramis Ramirez' Big Night Leads Cubs Over Astros 14-7

Now that was fun!

And it was almost as if two different games were played last night; the Astros ran out to leads of 6-0 and 7-1, in part because of a throwing error by Ryan Theriot on what looked like it would become a routine inning-ending double play (with only one run scoring in that second inning).

The Cubs roared back to score 13 (yes, thirteen!) unanswered runs and blast the Astros 14-7; it was their second 14-7 win of the season (the first was Starlin Castro's major league debut on May 7).

Is Lou Piniella still going to retire after all of that?

After watching the Cubs rally from a six-run deficit on the day he announced he was retiring from baseball at season's end, Lou Piniella was asked if he had changed his mind.

"No, sir," Piniella said emphatically. "No, sir."

A few more things about Lou's announcement after the jump. Regardless of where this season does finally end up, winning games like that is enjoyable for any player or baseball fan. The three-homer game by Aramis Ramirez was the fourth of his career; Chris Jaffe at Hardball Times notes how rare that is:

... who has hit the most games with three homers (or more - the source I'm using includes four homer games on the list) in one game:

Six games with at least three homers in them

Johnny Mize and Sammy Sosa.

Five games

Carlos Delgado, Mark McGwire, Joe Carter, and Dave Kingman.

Four games

Aramis Ramirez, Albert Pujols, Steve Finley, Barry Bonds, Larry Parrish (!?!?!?), Willie Stargell, Ernie Banks, Ralph Kiner, Babe Ruth (includes post-season, as is the case for the others on this list), and Lou Gehrig.

Babe Ruth is the only one on the list above to have done this in a postseason game (there are others who have done that who have fewer than four such games; see the linked list above). So A-Ram needs just one more such game in his career to get into real rare territory. In addition, since returning from the DL, Aramis is now hitting .354/.393/.817 (1.210 OPS) with 20 runs, six doubles, a triple, 10 HR and 25 RBI in 21 games.

Star-divide

Ryan Dempster had a shaky outing, though you can't blame him entirely; that Theriot error extended the second inning and after it, Dempster both hit a batter and walked a batter with the bases loaded. He wound up throwing a ridiculous 113 pitches in five innings -- but in addition to the offensive explosion, credit to the bullpen -- Andrew Cashner, Sean Marshall and Carlos Marmol gave up nothing in their four innings of work, retiring all 12 batters they faced.

Many of us, including me, have criticized Lou Piniella for the last year and a half for looking distracted, detached and disengaged from the game he has played and managed for nearly half a century (he first played in the minor leagues in 1962, 48 years ago).

But I'm going to give the man some credit here. He was a good player for a long time and persevered -- he spent seven years in the minor leagues and had to go through five organizations before getting his major league shot, and he made the most of it, winning the Rookie of the Year award for the Royals in 1969. He then played 18 seasons in the major leagues, playing till he was nearly 41 years old (unusual in that era -- he was the oldest position player in the AL in 1984), and was a key contributor to two World Series winning teams as a player.

This is his 23rd season as a manager; he's got a World Series ring there too (oh, and how we wish he'd won a second one in 2008), and six other postseason appearances, including the pair with the Cubs. He'll wind up with a winning record as Cubs manager, and possibly be as high as tenth in winning percentage among all Cubs managers. He did an excellent job here up until that last week of the 2008 season. For that, I salute him.

For the rest of what's happened since then, it is indeed time for him and the franchise to move on. I've made it clear who my preference as manager is, but for tomorrow's off day, I'll have a look at a number of candidates for the job and try to look objectively at their pluses and minuses. And I'll have some comments on Jim Hendry's retention as general manager then, too.

In the meantime, there's another game to be played this afternoon. The game preview will post at 11:30 am CDT.

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Listen to the first half of the game using the WGN audio archive and the second half with KTRH…

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 21, 2010 7:36 AM CDT reply actions  

DEVO-TED FAN ...

Katie Casey should be given season tickets, and a Wrigleyville condo so she and husband Paul don’t have to drive in from beyond the Fox River for every game, for the rest of the year on the condition that she wears that hat to every game.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Jul 21, 2010 7:39 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Very cool hat.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 21, 2010 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice to see you again.

Thanks for the book signing!

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rockin' the Devo hat!

You should talk to Wally Hayward on getting those mass produced :)

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 21, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

You do realize...

…we’re going to need you to attend every Cubs game for the rest of the season while wearing that hat, right?

Contributing Editor, SB Nation Chicago. Please follow us on Twitter!

by daver on Jul 21, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish I could.

If I didn’t live so darn far, I would have definitely gone today.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does it come in Spartan Green?

Pantone 456? ;)

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 21, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blech.

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and my eldest is going today.

One of his college telecom buddies’ dad is friends with the president of WGN and they are sitting in the WGN corporate seats.

He isn’t even particularly interested in baseball. Maybe this will turn the tide.

Mrs. Zeke was jealous ‘big time’.

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for waving up at us in the bleachers.

You looked great in the hat… and saw a big win!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are too cool, katie...Awesome!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jul 21, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks everybody for the kind words.

I feel like such a dork.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, Katie

You are sophistication par excellence.

I do not believe such a stellar work of art has ever before been beheld in all of human history.

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looking good Katie.

You got to see one heck of a game. So exciting!!

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 21, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

We've seen some truly awful ones this year too.

This one made up for it…at least for me. My husband was at last Saturday’s debacle which he’s not completely over.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe that really cool hat didn't make it on TV.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Jul 21, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad it didn't.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

now

that was fun.the aramis we know and love. such a long climb back to 500.though hopefully the cubs can at least end up with a winning record.and lou?great job the 1st 2 years, not so great the last 2.

by NOMAR on Jul 21, 2010 7:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Spaces and capital letters are your friend.

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray

by Archie on Jul 21, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Levine made an interesting point about Lou yesterday.

He said that Lou’s best managing season as a Cub might have been 2009. He noted that despite injuries to Aramis and all the other distractions, the Cubs finished above .500 (at a record pretty close to the 2007 finish).

I think Lou’s been awful this season. But given the loss of Aramis, the dysfunction of MB and the horrible season by Soriano, should Lou get more credit for 83 wins in 2009?

Just opening up the discussion. I’m not sure how I feel on this …

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

He might be on to something

The key word is might.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 21, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda what I was thinking.

It’s still time for a change. But in evaluating/grading the Lou era, he might be judged too harshly for last year’s on-field performance.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like I said....

… give Lou some credit for what he did here. Ultimately, he failed in helping bring a World Series title here. But he is the most successful Cubs manager since Leo Durocher, and in managing the Cubs to consecutive postseason appearances, probably the most successful since the 1930’s.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Question, Al:

How involved do you think Lou was in making the player moves Hendry made after 2008?

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very involved.

Too much, I fear. I think it was all Lou’s idea to “get more lefthanded”, which wasn’t the reason they lost the playoff series.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect both.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

What I recall is...

… that Lou had signed a deal to be a Yankees consultant after he retired as manager. I think that’s exactly what he’ll do — maybe help them out in spring training, since it’s near his home in Tampa, and otherwise be mostly retired.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really think he'll be a GM.

I was criticizing his possible personnel judgment in a roundabout way.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see your point.

And… it’s yet another reason why former players don’t make good MLB executives. How many former players are current MLB GM’s? A few, but not very many.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Billy Beane and Kenny Williams

Doug Melvin played in the minors, but never made the show.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 21, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

So that's it, right?

Three or four? Not very many, which is my point.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 22, 2010 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most GM's must have

a sound background in finance which precludes most ex players.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jul 21, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Get faster" would have been a better request

Until the recent spate of squeezes/steals, the Cubs have really suffered from their inability to manufacture runs.

by ClarkFan on Jul 21, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's optimism.

I truly hope you are correct.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Make this green!

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 21, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

darn straight

I got really mad everytime the media said

“HE NEVER BROUGHT THE WORLD SERIES TO CHICAGO.”

Dangit, the year ain’t over yet. I HATE the disgusting sense of omniscient largesse these talking heads seem to have, able to tell us what is and isn’t with such suave delivery

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Our year is over.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're evil.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did I do something wrong?

If so, how do I know, so I don’t make the same mistake again?

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It shows an ad for the hosting site.

Maybe it won’t allow hotlinking. It’s all good.

by chilango2 on Jul 21, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

THIS is an evil Tripod

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nightmares is why I

never watch movies like that.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 21, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nightmares "are".

I need to use “preview” I guess.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 21, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

you omnisciently largesstical boob

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 21, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poop!

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

We may not admit it

but we know.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jul 21, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU!

And Lou thanks you. He’s always been one of my favorite baseball guts and I hate seeing Cub fans kicking him as he leaves the game. There’s been a lot of, er, negative things said here. Let’s be kind to a true competitor as he departs the game. I believe he really wanted to be the one to deliver that ring to Wrigle. It just wasn’t meant to be…but then again, it could happen!

"Don't shed any tears. You think about this: Here I am, the grandson of a slave. And here the whole world was excited about whether I was going into the Hall of Fame or not. We've come a long ways." BUCK O'NEIL

by HotDogDude on Jul 21, 2010 9:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damn I hate these iPhone keyboards!

"Don't shed any tears. You think about this: Here I am, the grandson of a slave. And here the whole world was excited about whether I was going into the Hall of Fame or not. We've come a long ways." BUCK O'NEIL

by HotDogDude on Jul 21, 2010 9:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Baseball guts".

Well, Lou always did have ’em.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball GUYS, but guts works too

"Don't shed any tears. You think about this: Here I am, the grandson of a slave. And here the whole world was excited about whether I was going into the Hall of Fame or not. We've come a long ways." BUCK O'NEIL

by HotDogDude on Jul 21, 2010 10:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL!

I was recently trying to text Al to see if Ballhawk Ken was outside Wrigley. My iPhone was kind enough to replace “ballhawk” with “Balkhash”.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

that Balkan Hash is the best!

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 21, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would hope to see Lou get some cheers on his farewell tour

I don’t think that riding each manager out of here on a rail is the best tradition to have.

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 21, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I can certainly see that being the truth.

Just look at this year when Aramis might as well have been on the DL for 75 games. Since he’s remembered how to swing the bat, this Cubs team looks like it’s having FUN and isn’t afraid of a 4 or a 5 run deficit. Earlier in the year, if they went down 1 they looked like they were trying to climb everest.

by bdlugz on Jul 21, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty critical of the job Lou has done this year.

Last year, with Aramis hurt for half the season, Soriano struggling, Bradley being Bradley and Zambrano regressing, the team won 83 games.

Granted, Z has been bad this year and Aramis has been hurt/ineffective, but Lou has Byrd instead of Bradley and a solid Soriano. And we’re nine games under.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not saying he's impressing me this year.

Simply agreeing that last year may very well have been his best managing job so far.

by bdlugz on Jul 21, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Imagine my surprise...

I was invited to a friend’s for dinner last night – left when the Cubs were down 4-0.

I got home about 11 PM and fired up BCB to see just how bad it had been…

Some surprises are indeed pleasant.

by MN exile on Jul 21, 2010 7:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Me too

I listened to the beginning of the game driving home after meeting my father for dinner. Down 6-0 I didn’t bother listening to the rest of the game once I got home, opting instead to take a nice sunset walk through the nature preserve by my place. Now I kind of regret it.

by wallrock on Jul 21, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never regret walks through nature preserves!

Baseball games come and go. Time spent under trees (and in my case, often along the banks of the Mississippi as well) is always worth it.

That said, a 13-unanswered-run barrage must have been something to watch.

by MN exile on Jul 21, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

At the end the Astros looked shell-shocked

It’s fun to watch the other teams pitching self-destruct for a change.

by JFCubFan on Jul 21, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same here:

Left for two innings, down 7-1 and came back to 14-7. It was a great surprise.

by chilango2 on Jul 21, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep. went to the gym and watched through 7-1 before

getting beat up by my trainer. Woke up this morning, fired up BCB and I did a Bugs Bunny double take.

by Emelie on Jul 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing I forgot to mention...

… and it didn’t ultimately affect the result so it’s not a big deal, but why didn’t Xavier Nady run to first base after striking out when the pitch got away? First base was NOT occupied so by rule, he could have done that, and probably would have been safe since the Astros’ attention was focused on Geovany Soto, who scored on the play.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 7:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I notice that too, and so did BB.

That really kinda irritated me. I’m really not a fan of Nady after that, I guess it kinda struck me as lazy.

by Dcr18 on Jul 21, 2010 8:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think he thought he fouled it off.

Least that’s the impression I got from Judd and Ron.

by Steven Schweickert on Jul 21, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't take the word of Judd and Ron on that sort of thing.

And in any case, once he saw Geo running, he should have taken off.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

You ALWAYS go for the base and stay there until the umpire tells you to leave it because you are out.

Never assume. Don’t help out the opposition. RUN DUMMY!

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 21, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree wholeheartedly.

Run till someone tells you to stop. Apparantly some things don’t carry from Little League.

by Steven Schweickert on Jul 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Candidate for tootblan?

"Don't shed any tears. You think about this: Here I am, the grandson of a slave. And here the whole world was excited about whether I was going into the Hall of Fame or not. We've come a long ways." BUCK O'NEIL

by HotDogDude on Jul 21, 2010 9:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's a common occurence with the Cubs

Soriano NEVER runs on dropped 3rds, for example.

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 21, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

I don’t recall that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sori might run.........

……..if it went to the backstop, but he’s notorious for swinging at bad pitches, which catchers have a hard time handling cleanly, and then dropping his head and skulking back to the dugout. He adds to a catcher’s put out total almost every game.

Obviously Nady can’t be benched, but he should have his ass reamed for such a poor play. As we discussed at the game, Al, get him on the next flight out of town. Another blunder by Hendry, IMHO, and fortunately it was not too expensive.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra

by tville on Jul 21, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed on getting rid of Nady.

If the Rangers are still interested, just have them take the $ and give the Cubs a face-saving prospect.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the Rangers take the $, a bag of practice balls would be adequate compensation

Replacing Nady with Fuld could acutally improve the Cubs performance and Colvin could be the back-up/emergency 1B.

by ClarkFan on Jul 21, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Baker can back up first base, too.

Crazy as it sounds, I still think there’s a good hitter in Xavier Nady somewhere, but he has been a huge disappointment this season.

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by daver on Jul 21, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

every thread must end with an exclamation point!

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 21, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

If there is a Baseball God...

….. this game could be a microcosm off the entire season. Get down big early, inexplicably come roaring back and then some, leaving everyone to wonder where the hell has this been all year?

Stranger, dumber things have happened. Leo Durocher used to say that he’d rather win a series and go two out of three or three out of four than put together a long winning streak, because it showed him consistency and all facets of the team. It kept them grounded and a little bit hungry. Based upon the first half of the season the Cubs should be downright starving, but the team started showed these types of signs of life before the All Star Break and have kept going. It would fit right in with the Cubs’ lore if that’s what happened.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jul 21, 2010 7:59 AM CDT reply actions  

My pleasure :)

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jul 21, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

You don't mean to say that you had given up?

 
tsk. tsk.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 21, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind that the Cardinals have won 7 in a row ...

while the Cubs improved play has netted a 4-3 record.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

We've got 12 games left to play with the Cardinals.

Anything could happen…

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

One at a time....

.. plus, I look forward to seeingVotto face Cub pitching.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jul 21, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also keep in mind.....

…. the Cardinals are in Wrigley this weekend, and if there ever was a make or break series, this will be it. Allow me my small bit of optimism while there’s still a sliver of hope to justify it.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jul 21, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're (of course) allowed your optimism.

But 10 days of improved play — which include some really ugly losses — and “stranger things have happened” statements don’t do much for me.

As I told Al the other day, let’s win 8 of 10 before we start thinking about a White Sox-style run (which is what’s really required at this point).

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

8 out 10?

You mean, like golly, win three series? I could swear I said something just like that.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jul 21, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's possible that I was painting you as one who was making too much of an optimistic prediction.

If so, I apologize. Honestly, I couldn’t quite make out the point you were trying to make about Durocher vis a vis this Cubs team.

I thought you were just taking too much from a 4-3 run.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

i know I said something like that

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/7/16/1573159/do-you-believe-in-miracles#

and we’re halfway home to give faith it’s reasons

GO CUBBIES

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beating the Cardinals

Is always a good thing, even in the worst of years. They should be focused on the next game, not the playoffs.

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 21, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keep it up Aramis...

it’s not bad business to sell high. Well.. as high as you can after a first half like that. But if the Cubs are looking to deal, it’s better to get a good return while you can (provided there is a buyer). They missed the “opportunity” with Silva. Then again nobody wanted that contract or ticking time bomb either. It has been a while since I’ve been able to sit back and think the Cubs could trade away some better than average startersand I wouldn’t be scared of our farm system. This season isn’t over yet, very very darn close, but I like the future and where we are going.

by ArmyCubFan on Jul 21, 2010 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Aramis won't get traded.

If he does, his option for 2012 automatically kicks in. It’s more likely that a torrid second half will have him opt out of his contract after this season.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he continues to hit like this, I'd be glad to welcome him back next year.

Especially since we don’t have any other options at third for next year.

by Dcr18 on Jul 21, 2010 8:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'll be glad to have him back, too.

But that wasn’t the point. I was saying that it’s unlikely that he’ll be traded — not that he would be a bad guy to have as a Cub next year.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well you said that a torrid second half could make him opt out.

I just don’t think he’ll wind up opting out. But hopefully he continues his recent surge and gives us some hope for next year with a hot finish.

by Dcr18 on Jul 21, 2010 8:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

So what?

If a team needs a run producer, he is one of the best out there right now. Having him under contract through 2011 would not be that much of a impediment.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 21, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

That isn't what elgato said.

A-Ram has a $16 million team option for 2012 that gets guaranteed if he’s traded. No matter how good he is right now, no team is going to take that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Instead of a 1-year $15 million rental, Aramis becomes a 2-year $31 million rental. In this economy, with an aging player known for getting hurt …

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

just like

no one was going to take alex rios off the blue jays hands? if there is enough in the medical reports to assuage fears about recent injuries he’s a premium bat at a thin position.

by circuitclout on Jul 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

The really odd though is that the Cubs may even exercise that option

The coming FA market for 3B isn’t great, and unless everything suddenly clicks for Vitters he won’t be ready by 2012. A healthy, productive Ramirez may actually be the best option for 2012, even given the money (note emphasis on healty and productive).

by ClarkFan on Jul 21, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

They might...

…. but won’t do so until after next year, presuming Ramirez doesn’t opt out after this one.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

unless you know for sure

that ramirez will stay for next year you’d think the cubs would have to at least kick the tires on dealing him before the deadline.

by circuitclout on Jul 21, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Given the other contracts coming off the books after 2011 ...

you have a point. Keeping Aramis in 2012 would be a lot easier to swallow when Z, Kosuke and Silva are gone.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's inaccurate

the team option for 2012 only gets guaranteed if he’s traded AND he exercises his player option. granted, what he’s going to do with the 2011 option would likely be determined before any trade. even with the 2-yr/$30 mil left I don’t see how that contract is immovable given the lack of anything worthwhile on the FA market at 3B the next to years and the 1.210 ops in 21 games.

by circuitclout on Jul 21, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Jul 21, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone notice that the Cubs' fifth was a kind of repeat of the Astros' second?

Hit batter, at least one walk, 2-base E4 on a double play ball, single, extra-base hit (but Cubs HR vs. Astros 2B hit), both teams batted around. It seemed curious to me. How many times have we seen the Cubs get shelled and said to ourselves, “Gee, I wish the Cubs would have an inning like that.” And this time, they did.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Jul 21, 2010 8:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Now that WAS fun!

A 6-0 comeback plus ARam’s 3 HR night! That ticket stub is a saver.

Nice to see you Al!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jul 21, 2010 8:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Stop on by again next time you're out there.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will do on Friday.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jul 21, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where are you sitting Friday?

I’m in Section 202.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry he is in the bleachers

With my extras. I will try to come by Friday & say HI, but are you in the bleachers today
by chance?

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 21, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Page down.

You will get your answer.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

See you there.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 21, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

How can anyone explain the two different seasons by Aramis?

What was really ailing him the entire first half, that a mere 15 day DL trip seemed to fix?

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jul 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

He had a tricep injury in spring training.

Maybe that was still bothering him as well as the thumb.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

One key offseason evaluation should be the training staff

This is the second season in a row that a key player injury wasn’t correctly diagnosed and he stayed in the lineup and played poorly. And if trotting Soriano out in 2009 and Ramirez in 2010 was Piniella’s doing, that should improve.

by ClarkFan on Jul 21, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do think that...

… this organization defers too much to its veteran players in keeping them in the lineup when they are hurt, unless they have obvious injuries that you can’t hide (i.e. D-Lee’s wrist in 2006 or Soriano’s pulled hamstring in 2007).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if you could see it in the stands,

but on the swinging strike right before the 3rd home run, Aramis really grimaced. He had swung hard and missed. It was obvious to me that much pain is still there, and it looked to be his thumb.

"I won't be like A-Rod" - Z, 3/17/09

by Ihatethecards on Jul 21, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

BB has mentioned

several times that you can see the thumb is still bothering Aramis when he bats.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 21, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I turned it off when it was 7-1.

And checked BCB to see how bad it was. Imagine my surprise when I saw the score was 7-6. I turned the game back on in time to see Soto tie it at 7-7.

Now, can the Cubs win with me in the bleachers today?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Now, can the Cubs win with me in the bleachers today?

They did on Sunday.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have one.

I will be wearing the hat with the stain from Sunday.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

You still never said what that stain was.

Don’t think we want to know.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I have to ask,

I’m probably better off not knowing.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would agree.

But as I told you, keep it as a badge of honor. Plus, the Cubs won that night. You should wear it again today.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's the only Cubs cap I packed before I came to Chicago.

So, I have no choice … I have to wear it.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll look for the guy with the stain on his hat :)

hope I see ya there today

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jul 21, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd love to but we're down the 3rd base line this time

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jul 21, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm in the bleachers,

Along with Al and other members of BCB.

Did you get my Facebook message?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes and I will try to be there at the time you mentioned

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jul 21, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

While we're at it, congratulations to Andrew Cashner

Picked up the first career victory of what will hopefully be many wins for the Cubs.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Jul 21, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes indeed!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jul 21, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Props for him, too.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010

State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like our bullpen a lot for the next year or two.

As long as the back end of the rotation can be filled, I like our pitching generally.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, me too.

I’m really happy for Sean Marshall. He’s just been amazing this year.

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by daver on Jul 21, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see the front end of the rotation filled

The Cubs have the middle (Dempster) and back end (Wells, Gorzelanny) locked. But unless Cashner and other young players develop quickly, filling in the top is more likely to be a project for 2012-2013.

by ClarkFan on Jul 21, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's exactly right.

I’m optimistic about 2011 because I think the Cubs will be younger and fun to watch AND I think there’s a chance they catch lightning in a bottle a sneak into the WC picture.

Otherwise, 2012-2013 look promising.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice ring to that, I like it, sounds scary :D

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jul 21, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it did.

Though I still want Cashner starting in 2011.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Jul 21, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm definitely open to that.

It’ll be interesting to see how things work out.

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by daver on Jul 21, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe we're starting to see the team Lou envisioned out of spring training,

as long as our pitching reverts back to our dominating style. A win today and an all out effort to sweep the Cardinals may be the jump start this team needs. The last few games have certainly been more fun.

The time is now, we’ve got to continue to hit and pitch and get wins.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jul 21, 2010 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Al, I'm disappointed in you.

Isn’t the clear headline “Win One For The (Sk)ipper”?

(cue groaning)

I think it’s pretty safe to say A-Ram is back.

by Steven Schweickert on Jul 21, 2010 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Drat.

Missed one. Quick turnaround today. Already working on game preview.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

So do you moonlight

coming up with those slogans for the Miller Lite billboard across the street?

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jul 21, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Nope. Some of them have been pretty good this year (I particularly liked the one when the Angels were in town: “Welcome to Baseball Heaven”).

Others, not so much.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's Heaven for us now

after the W last night . Packing up and headed south for the Cardinals series . Say some quick prayers the can keep it up.

by cubs north on Jul 21, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

One key data point

Every time Lee and Ramirez combine for 10 RBIs, the Cubs will win. Take it to the bank!

by ClarkFan on Jul 21, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

FWIW

Ramirez needs seven more RBI for 1000 in his career.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I knew we would win last night

Cooliogirl and I twirled .. we’re now 5-3 when we do in a game thread before the first pitch.

There is power when Cubs fans twirl ..

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Which raises the question...

.. why aren’t you doing this every game?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Life, frankly ..

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Understood.

Still… if you can….

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you twirl or did you TWIRL??? HEH-HEH

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know what twirl means, but what does TWIRL mean?

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jul 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sexual intercourse

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

ahhh gotcha

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jul 21, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

remember coolio, hon

i treated you like a lady

elderly couple twirl Pictures, Images and Photos"/>

the seagulls around Wrigleyville didn’t .. that one is named Worf

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO...we better do it now cuz I'm leavin for the game soon

1-2-3 twirl—-GO CUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Jul 21, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

the game's this afternoon??

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

YIKES .. YES'M .. HERE WE GO

“man, we almost jinxed the whole thing”

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Random idea:

Would (or should) the Cubs consider bringing Sandberg in as a bench coach for the rest of the season? Now that Lou’s status is known …

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Nope.

No reason to switch things around now.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see any downside, other than the effect on the Iowa Cubs.

At the big-league level, we already know Lou’s gone at the end of the season, so having Sandberg sitting next to him and learning from him for a couple months won’t cause any distractions (vultures circling, etc.).

I can see some people arguing that bringing up Sandberg all but ensures that he gets the managing job next year, but I don’t think it HAS to be that way. Either he gets the job, or he gets two months of big-leaguing coaching experience making him more attractive to other MLB teams looking for managers.

One thing’s pretty certain: Ryne Sandberg will NOT manage the Iowa Cubs in 2011.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see coaching changes like this happening for any team, do you?

Alan Trammell has done a good job as bench coach, plus he’s worked hard with Starlin Castro. For that he gets a demotion? I wouldn’t do it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

These are unusual circumstances, so I don't know if the normal rules apply.

I see your point about Trammel. But is there a limit to how many coaches the Cubs can have on the bench? I honestly don’t know …

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, yes, there is.

That’s why Matt Sinatro can be in uniform during batting practice but not during the game. IIRC, the limit is six in uniform during games (bench, 1B, 3B, pitching, bullpen, batting).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't know that.

So, in order to make this happen, someone would lose a spot. That IS a big downside.

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sandberg will

get a September callup to be with the team when the I-Cubs season is over. What the rules are about him sitting in the dugout, I don’t know, but the Cubs often call up the Iowa manager to Chicago when the PCL season is over.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 21, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting idea...

…but that would seem kind of disrespectful to Alan Trammel, no?

It’s too bad teams can’t expand the coaching staff during September. Y’know, give Ryno a Sept. callup.

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by daver on Jul 21, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I too always liked Lou

But this year it appeared out of the gate he was a step slow on every move.
 He has had a wonderful baseball career. Nothing would be better for the Cubs and Lou to run off a great stretch of 25-10 and get into this race.
 Lets get today’s game and worry about the weekend on Friday. Go Cubs

by Grockcubs on Jul 21, 2010 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Oooooh... comeback win against the Astros!

I’m all a-flutter.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Apparently not.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

He had one

But he held a pillow over its face unitl it stopped struggling.

by ClarkFan on Jul 21, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

And then I punched it in the nads

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your fastball is up. Your curveball is hanging.

The moment is over.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon, coach, just one more batter.

I can get this guy. I know it!

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by daver on Jul 21, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is what I was getting at in the game threads last couple of nights

If we can take three series in a row, I think we got a snowballs’ chance of seeing a possible miracle.

We’re one game from meeting that bare minimum standard that I personally of holding on to.

And last night’s game was one I personally said to myself was going to be critical .. if after that disastrous first three innings, I said to myself, we can mount a comeback, I think we may have seen a big corner turned in the season, one of many we still need to go.

If the Cubs become a factor in the postseason, last night was the game it happened in.

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 9:26 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yer cute

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Die

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

i feel pretty

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You should!

Big Worf is always pretty!

by TJ11 on Jul 21, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's see

We took three out of four from the Phillies and so far have taken one out of two in a three game series against the Astros out of the break. That’s 4-2 out of the break. We’ve outscored oppoents 47-37 during that stretch. It’s not exactly dominant, but consider that four runs against came in during a game which we should have won and starting pitching just hasn’t been solid in this Astros series. Way to keep up with the Joneses, but the Cubs have to win some games that matter to close the gap. They’ll need to win today to take this series. Then we can worry about what’s next. I’m still not convinced that this team can make a run, but stranger things have happened in baseball.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

by Ace Venom on Jul 21, 2010 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

We play them this weekend

Keep it one game at a time. If we can take this game, we can worry about winning a series against St. Louis.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

by Ace Venom on Jul 21, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

If, somehow, the Cubs win the next four ...

things will get very interesting. If they do anything less than take 3 of 4 …

by elgato on Jul 21, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs need a pretty good run to get back in it

I have my doubts, but good things happen when you win series.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

by Ace Venom on Jul 21, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wake me when they get to four back

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 21, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like keeping Jim Hendry around!

I look ahead to the team he is going to build for next year! Starting at this years deadline!

Our new owner is Phil Wrigley and Mike McCaskey combined! The best in Chicago sports! Outstanding!

by TJ11 on Jul 21, 2010 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

In all seriousness, I just can't get excited about wins right now

We aren’t going to compete this year. Let’s keep in mind we just beat up on the worst team in te National League before we start talking about jumping into contention. Hendry coming back next season has put a serious damper on my excitement for 2011

by HuskerCorner on Jul 21, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see you getting excited over anything, even sex

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jul 21, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was in the bleachers with Al

and it was fun, but boy was it bad at first. We were thinking , great another messed up blow out. When A-Ram hit the homer to make 7-6 Stevens had been warming up in the bullpen all inning since Lou obviously figured the game was lost and you might as well get him some work with 4 innings more to go. I immediately said they had to get Cashner up because now it was a game and you could not afford to fall further behind and within 90 seconds he WAS up so sometimes Lou and I agree. I also had a disagreement with Al about using Marmol in the 9th after it became a blow out, Most people in the section did now want him in a non save situation, but i felt strongly he needed to get in a game after the debacle Friday so again there are times I agree with
Lou.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 21, 2010 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

when people were posting that watching grasshoppers in the stands was more exciting

i knew things seemed bleak

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

He got Marmol up, so he might as use him

Marmol started to warm up when it was a save situation. And he hadn’t pitched since Saturday. He needed to work. Even if Marmol pitches today, he’s off tmrw.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 21, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well that is what I told Al

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 21, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

which makes me wonder

Friday = 14 pitches, 9 strikes = Save
Saturday = 39 pitches, 15 strikes = BS and lose

Tuesday = 14 pitches, 9 strikes
Wednesday = ?

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 21, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

a Marmol outing is like a box of chocolates?

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 21, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

My brain thought that in Forrest Gump voice

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 21, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Game to be at Last Night

I have been lucky to get to some great games this year – the Cubs/Sox/Blackhawks game, Home Opener, last Thursday’s win over the Phillies. This one definitely ranks up there. Two 5-run innings by the Cubs!?!

Along with my own joy, I turned around to see two 6-8 year old boys with their dad. The boys had on rally caps in the 5th inning. We started to high-five the boys during the game. And by the end of the game, we were showing them how to sing Go Cubs Go. The look of astonishment on their faces was priceless. That was fun.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 21, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

that makes me wanna cry.

seriously.

That would be the epitome of human happiness for me, to be raising a couple of sons with the Cubs in their lives, but my wife who walked on me never gave me sons. 17 years under the bus, doing everything right (not perfectly perhaps) and now I’m starting all over again ..

Risky, I envy you, friend. Enjoy your children.

May they be a blessing to you when you are full of years .. and may they pay for your frontrow seats at the World Series involving the Cubs ..

Until then, I enjoy watching my nieces and nephew be properly indoctrinated by my brother and SIL in the joys of being Cubs fans in bloom .. and watching them teach things only the Cubs could ..

Please God, more strikeouts by Cub pitching!

More Cubs hitting with RISP!

More clutch hits and better baserunning!

No waves!

A World Series before I die!

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those weren't my boys

I have a daughter, who was cranky during parts of Monday night’s game. Well, who wasn’t?

Those boys saw a great comeback. What a highlight to see at that age. And it wasn’t crowded by me, so those kids could actually see the game.

Hang in there and just keep being a great uncle.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 21, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I almost changed the channel

but then they started the come back. I’m glad I stayed it was so worth it. Aramis had the hot bat for sure. Nice to see Geo hit a homer too. Starlin had some great defensive plays too.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Jul 21, 2010 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey Al...

Do you think that announcement by Piniella was forced, because of that waxing the Cubs took on Monday night? It just doesn’t seem like Piniella is the type to make an announcement like that knowing there will be so much fanfare over it. I look forward to your thoughts on the “Buffet Ranger” being kept onboard as GM, too.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Jul 21, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

A little late for this answer...

…. but no.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 22, 2010 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

BEST GAME OF MY LIFE!

Vince Vaughn was sitting right behind us and throughout the entire game was high fiving me since it was such a thrilling game. He was super into the game and a huge fan. Tom Ricketts came over TO him to say hello and I got to meet him as well. Vaughn was at the game with his newly pregnant wife, his sister and his sister’s family, including his 5 year old nephew. We convinced “marty” one of the ball boys to surreptiously slip us a ball during the 7th inning stretch, which we gave to the kid. Every time we stood up in between innings, everyone up to 3 sections over was staring at us and taking pictures. It was just freakin awesome. I was getting just as annoyed as he was at all the autograph seekers though.

The game was awesome too! Biggest comeback since 2008 vs. Rockies and I was at that game too!

by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 21, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

is Ricketts now known as a 'box seat crasher'

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jul 21, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why do the ushers let him in without a ticket?

Against policy.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 21, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

that guy makes shitty movies

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 21, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Every actor has hits and misses

Swingers and Wedding Crashers. That’s all I really care about and that’s enough.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 21, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

they were both shitty

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 21, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

some would disagree

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 21, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jurrasic Park 3...was his best.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Jul 21, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Jul 21, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

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