Going For The Sweep: Cubs vs. Cardinals Preview, Sunday 7/25, 7:05 CT
A win tonight would give the Cubs a 7-3 homestand, and put them over .500 for the season at home (27-26).
Sounds good, right? A sweep of the Cardinals would be their first since a four-game sweep from July 27-30, 2006. In fact, the Cubs swept the Cardinals at Wrigley twice in 2006. Think about that for a moment -- the Cardinals won the World Series in 2006, and the Cubs swept them twice. (They also got swept by St. Louis once that year.)
The problem with that being a feel-good story is that the Cubs lost two games during this homestand that were not only winnable, but nearly nailed down. The Cubs should be 8-1 on this homestand and thinking seriously about getting back in the race. Instead, they're 6-3 and only on the barest edge of hanging on, or instead putting up "For Sale" signs near many player lockers.
Whatever happens in the trade market in the next week, it would still be really sweet to sweep the Cardinals tonight.
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Chris Carpenter is 10-3, 2.73 lifetime vs. the Cubs, including a win on May 28 at Wrigley Field. His ERA is up a bit this year and he's allowed a lot more home runs (15 so far, compared to seven all last year). A few of the Cubs do hit him well: Derrek Lee (15-for-49, .306), Alfonso Soriano (12-for-36, .333), and Tyler Colvin, who hit a pinch-homer off Carpenter in that May 28 game for the Cubs' only run.
Ryan Dempster gave up six runs in 6.2 innings to the Cardinals on May 30 at Wrigley Field, although, to be fair, one of those runs scored after he left the game. Albert Pujols hits him well (.310, 4 HR, 8 walks), but then again, Pujols hits everyone pretty well. The rest of the Cardinals are hitting .267 (44-for-165) against Dempster.
Tonight's game is on ESPN. Fortunately for all of us, since Jon Miller and Joe Morgan were both at the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies earlier today, the announcers for tonight will be listenable: Dan Shulman, Orel Hershiser and Bobby Valentine. Most games today are over, but here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Cardinals site Viva El Birdos.
Today's first pitch thread will be up at 7 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 8 pm, 9 pm and 9:45 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Amen to that!
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Reds were shutout 4-0 today, so, there's ground to be made up...go Cubs!!!
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
Lineup per Muskat:
#cubs lineup sun nite is rf colvin, ss castro, 1b lee, 3b ramy, cf byrd, lf sori, c soto, 2b riot, p demp
only theriot can start a day after blowing chunks the day before
by jesus christos on Jul 25, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
he didnt start
he just PH during late close ball games
by jesus christos on Jul 25, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank goodness the Riot is in!!!!!!!!
There isn’t anything Fonty can do better than Riot! Especially vs a tough RHP!!!!
This is NOT the day to get a LH batter in there!
Lou Piniella you are incredibly amazing! You will be missed next year!!!!!!!
Man that keeps irritating me.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Lou!
Hey! He already moved him out of the leadoff spot!!!! What do you want? Him out of the lineup too?
OK
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
Wasn't that what was said to all the male passengers of the Titanic?
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
This is wearing thin TJ...
You seem extry riled up today, any reason fer it?
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I think so also
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Those picture Theriot has of...
Hendry and Piniella must be really disgusting, is all I got to say?
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
Theriot again?
Lou must be blind and didn’t see what happened yesterday.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
VCF
You know that it goes far deeper than that :)
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
He must have some very interesting photo of Hendry and Lou.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinking more long lost son of Lou
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
That's possible too.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm as excited for this game as I have been for a game all season
"Brant Brown...DROPS THE BALL!!!!"
Normally a feeling that is followed
by a 4-0 deficit after two, for me.
Go Cubs! Get the Cardinal's goat again and then off to Houston for more wins!

Did I mention that I hate night games! They have the nasty habit of starting after midnight my time.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
well weekend night games I don't like
not time zone issue just prefer day baseball
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The trading begins (not for the Cubs though)
Victor Rojas reports:
Saunders plus 3 to #dbacks for Dan Haren. #angels
Boy his value has plummeted
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Welll...yes and no.
Yes he’s owned the Cubs but he sure went to the top of the league then fell a long way now after leaving the Cards.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
i think its more the incompetence of the dbacks organization that harens value
especially considering they didnt need to trade haren
by jesus christos on Jul 25, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
This moves Lilly up a notch now in the trade market.
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
This will be a different game tonight.
And by that I mean the wind is reported to be blowing in 5-10 mph in addition to being a night game. I’d think that means it should be a low scoring game if Demp can keep from having 1st inning hiccups.
Please pitch well Ryan, we will need a strong performance against Carpenter.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
Think of how small it could be with Fonty in there.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Please pitch well tonight Ryan!!!
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
So how many homers will Pujols hit tonight?
I’m gonna guess 2.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I go with one
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
:P
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. How about 2 for Rami?
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinkin' another shutout, but, I was in the sun for a bit today
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
reply fail...crap!!!
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
lol
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Just so we all remember how great he was:

by chilango2 on Jul 25, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Way to go Hawk!!!
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
My eyes!
Couldn’t click on it fast enough to get it to go away!
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry
I clicked too quickly………….
I was thinking you were going to the nasty thing of Joe Morgan
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
I was wondering what you meant there. :)
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
it's Sunday night game
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
morgan's in cooperstown
so is miller.
its like dan o brien & orel hershizer and someone else… i think.
Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden
Bobby Valentine I think Al said.
Anything is better than Morgan.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I shouldn't try to multi task between baseball and football reading
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
lol.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
it's almost sad how excited for football I already am
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I sure know what you mean.
I watched a few WC games this year because of this team. Never would have otherwise.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
plus I really do love football also
Both Badgers and Packers could be good this year.
(don’t hate me I grew up near GB)
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Man that's good to see.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
THE HOF SHOULD HAVE PUT A CUB HAT ON HIM
That is the only thing wrong with the picture, other than that, I’m peachy.
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
He wanted it.
unfortunately MLB knows best…ugh.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
But anyone who knows anything about him will know he wanted a Cubs hat
Yet another brilliant decision by MLB
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I was meaning there MCF.
Guess I should have said it better.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Here, I'll turn it green ..

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Jul 25, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Theriot as usual messing up in that picture.
Looks like his attempt at the ol’ hidden ball trick.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
He is the first player in MLB history to hide the ball from himself
May get a special display in the HOF…
ALthough if Z & Theriot
are my complaints this year….
it’s an improvement over both 06 & last year
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
What are you meaning by that?
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm watching MLBN,
and [name redacted] bunted for an RBI single in Seattle. And I felt angry, confused and violent.
ah. saw that.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
hell he could win the AL triple crown for all I care
Just happy he’s no longer a Cub
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Just keep looking at their record
38-60 – We look respectable compared to that BS
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Cubs win...
and we have a chance this season. Cubs lose and the season is more or less over.
Huge game.
problem is that the Cubs need to KEEP winning
ain’t been too promising until the last couple of weeks, almost when the ship’s beyond righting
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Begin by winning tonight.
And then beat Houston and Colorado next week, and I think the Cubs have a chance to get back into it.
Who are the Cubs playing after the Rockies?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
i fully agree ..
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
I don't think so. They haven't shown any near consistancy
But I would LOVE LOVE to be wrong.
At this point I am just enjoying the wins as they are happening. Not putting on weight on them. If it happens I’ll be giggy, if not I won’t be disappointed as we are just trying to enjoy the wins when they happen.
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Reds lost...Sox lost...this has the making of a GREAT baseball day.
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
Valentine
Will he wear the mustache?
Pujols had been held in check for two days. Not sure we can do that three days in a row. I think Dempster is good for this one, though. Just make sure the bases are empty when Pujols is at bat.
A good first inning would go a long way as well.
Valentine makes my ears bleed but anything is better than Morgan.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
50 Walks in 133 IP.
I thought he’d been better about that this year…
Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden
130 Ks, though
~9 K/9IP is a little better than I expected for him.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
very true
it just didn’t feel like he’d walked that many this year until i saw his line.
the walks have always been my biggest complaint with Demp. Although its slightly less grating now that he’s not closing anymore. Walks in the 9th really make me nauseous.
Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden
His problem this year has been the poorly-timed gopher ball
He needs either start keeping guys in the park late, stop thinking he can throw 120 pitches every start, or preferably both.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I think that latter
but isn’t that also partly Lou’s call. Or does Larry have some say in it?
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou to some extent
But it seems like Lou trusts his guys when they tell him “I can get one more, skipper.” He and Larry both need to look at how overused these guys are and maybe put together a pitch-count plan for them.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I give Demp credit for trying...
and when the bullpen was such a mess earlier in the season it was understandable. But I think you are right on.
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Thats been the biggest problem with the whole starting staff. They all seem to be left in the game one batter too long.
Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden
It's been especially bad with Demp
He leads the team in IP by more than 14
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That and the first inning blues.
He avoided that last game and I think it will be key in him having success tonight.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 25, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
There was a rainout.
Either Friday or Saturday.
It’s being made up a day-night double-header today, which is why there are two 7 PM games.
PS: You missed the five-hit shutout of the Cardinals earlier this series. I had the tickets to that game, one of which I offered to you.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, you don't have to tell me.
It was one of the worst weeks in my professional life and I missed a lot of very important personal mementos. So yeah.
Caption:
Theriot and Castro bend over to shake hands, only to find a line drive hit by a St. Louis batter getting in the way.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 25, 2010 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
WTF is a Boog?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

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