Trade Rumor Starters Face Each Other: Cubs vs. Astros Preview, Tuesday 7/27, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jul 27, 2010 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintAs of this writing, Ted Lilly is still a Cub. This means BCB'er elgato owes me a Big Gulp. Ted is in tonight's lineup tweeted by Carrie:
#cubs lineup tues nite is rf colvin, ss castro, 1b lee, 3b ramy, cf byrd, lf sori, 2b riot, c hill, p lilly
Obviously, Ryan Theriot's show of power last night has him moved up to the #7 spot.
Ted's next scheduled start is Sunday at Colorado. It is, of course, entirely possible he'll be traded by then, since the non-waiver deadline is 3 pm CDT on Saturday. But it was pointed out somewhere in one of the various trade threads that Ted would be a rental -- and it's not likely any team is going to give the Cubs decent prospects in return for a two-month rental of Ted Lilly. Thus, I think he's probably staying, and the Cubs will offer him arbitration. Getting a draft pick if he chooses to leave is probably better than any trade return.
The Astros' Brett Myers is also the subject of trade rumors. However, I'd think the Astros would like to hang on to him; he's arguably been their best pitcher this year, and his $8 million mutual option for 2011 isn't outrageously expensive. The Astros are going nowhere this year, but they've made a pretty good pickup in Myers, one of the better acquisitions Ed Wade has made.
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Tonight's pitching matchup is a rematch of last Wednesday afternoon's game at Wrigley Field, in which both starters threw well for seven innings (allowing one run each), but were long gone by the time the Cubs lost in the 12th inning.
So, here's a repost of (most of) the information I posted last week about Ted Lilly and Brett Myers, because not much has changed since then.
Brett Myers defeated the Cubs on June 6 in Houston and is now 8-3 lifetime with a 2.52 ERA vs. the Cubs in 14 appearances (10 starts). Current Cubs are hitting .299 against him (52-for-174) with 10 HR. Three of those have been hit by Derrek Lee (17-for-34, .500 career vs. Myers).
Ted Lilly went 4-0 against the Astros in 2009 with a 2.45 ERA. He has held current Astros to a .210 average (37-for-176) and even noted Cub-killer Carlos Lee is only 8-for-38 (.211) vs. Ted.
Tonight's game is on WGN and FSN Houston. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Astros site Crawfish Boxes.
Today's first pitch thread will be up at 7 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 8 pm, 9 pm and 9:45 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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GO CUBS
You need to sweep the Stros this series to make my FanPost come nearer to being correct!!!! And as we all know on this site that is all that matters. Here is to gaining a game on the cards tonight!
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
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Theriot may have been moved up in the order simply cause Hill sucks worse.
Brett Myers sure is having a good year and more importantly pitched very well against us last time. Show him you are the better pitcher Ted, please.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
Good thing our best hitter isn't playing.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
he needs a day off
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jul 27, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Our best hitter is in the #2 spot
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Soto is our best hitter in 2010.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Overall for the year that is true statement
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a very bad thing.
Guess you’re talking about Soto…and his instep got a ball fouled off of it…I don’t know what you are trying to say here.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He's injured dan.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Well hell, I didn't know that.
How would I?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I was just trying to tell you that as above.
It was discussed in the recap …guess I assumed above you knew that like everyone. But that is all I was trying to say here. He’s injured.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Missing Soto's bat for the rest of the week could really hurt our playoff chances.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Well yeah but now Theriot is gonna hit 5 HRs like May 09!
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I was watching THE BACHELORETTE: MEN TELL ALL with my girlfriend.
Didn’t watch game or read recap.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
PS – CHRIS L ALL THE WAY, BABY!
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I think SWL spit beer all over his TV screen last night.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe listen to last night game
Or read it in the recap or my comment in this thread.
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Lay off Dan...
is was his night to clean up after Soup Club.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I was giving him crap b/c his undies seemed all in a bundle :)
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
tighty-whities?
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You aren't going to find many people bigger Soto fan than I am
But if he hurt his foot last night, I’d rather him sit out tonight then make it worse.
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He rolled his ankle just before the ball hit his instep.
Sitting him tonight was an easy call. They will watch to see how it feels. Sure sucks to see him out.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
If Lou wants to give him off until Friday I’d be ok with it. I want a healthy Soto back in there.
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize that we had an offday Thurs.
so it’s really a two day off thing. Not that I give NBF any credit for knowing it when he was arguing with me lol.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
NINJAS ARE EVERYWHERE!
I’m going to the Twins @ Royals game; let’s see if they can beat the 19-1 score yesterday.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
ninjas?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fake masks...wait..
How did I see they have masks on?
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Girls have faces?
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jul 27, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
oh no you didn't ;)
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Jul 27, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
That kissy face on the one on the left is priceless.
Looks like future Rhodes scholars.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I think now you should put a Ted Lilly one
to even if out for the female readers.
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Joe
TY!
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
mine also
Although Ted and Molina is a very close 2nd.
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I have 2 favorites
Soto in some magazine picture, in casual clothes, in ’08 and DeRo standing on the field as a Cub holding his bat on his shoulders behind his head. mmmmm ;)
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Jul 27, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
his eyes are soooo dreamy.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
....
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Just here to help.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Emelie
I know your a WOW fan are you also Starcraft fan?
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
nope. only have time for one obsession...
I know that global productivity took a nose dive today, though :-)
What about tomorrow
when all these people have to go to work. :)
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He looks like
The Theme from James Bond should be playing…
Roberto Duran to Sugar Ray Leonard - No Mas... No Mas...
-------------
Hicks: That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over, what the **** are we supposed to now, huh, what are we gonna do?
-------------
"Why people, who have not committed any punishable offense, listen to Country and Western music is absolutely beyond me" - John Cleese
Love this picture of Ted.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I think the internet isn't always fair.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Specially if you are an old gf that has sex pics in the closet...
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I set 'em up...
…and you knock ’em up.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
That's the exact opposite of stealthy
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jul 27, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing mutant about those turtles
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Man you happened to pick the wrong night.
Then again, it’s the Royals, the Cards’ punching bag. They might repeat it.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Caption- Ron: "Hey Lou, pick any finger and pull it..."
We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971
Lou, you keep playing Theriot every damn game and I'm gonna beat you with a wooden leg I swear..
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Lilly's Value
His trade value to other teams should factor in the draft pick(s) that whoever traded for him would receive at the end of the year. That means Hendry should only get something of more value than the draft pick(s) at the end of the season.
On the other side of the deal, in theory, a team should pay for the value of 2 months of Lilly and the draft pick(s) they would receive at the end of the season.
Whether Hendry follows such logic is the question.
there's value
in saving the $5 million or so that is still owed to Lilly this year.
by circuitclout on Jul 27, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Very true
My point is that there is a lot that goes into these deadline deals. To dismiss Lilly’s value seems to simplify the situation. A rental works much better for smaller market teams that think this might be their window, which is why the Twins or Padres make a lot of sense. Those teams get a high-value, veteran pitcher for the stretch run without having to commit the years that often hold them out of acquiring such players.
I can see this is the power lineup
with Koyie Hill in it. Feel his power! and his ability to leave many, many men on base while striking out consistently.
The 2010 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp ruled!!!!
HILL OPS+ = 32
SOTO OPS+ = 139
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I am
rest assured, I am… I have my scorecard filled out and K’s written in for each of Mr. Powerhitting Hill’s at bats.
The 2010 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp ruled!!!!
Prove it. Post a pic.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you make that app yourself to drop on any pic?
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
no app...
just use imageready
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
well you made me smile :)
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Works well.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
you got me...but if I had the time, I would write it IN PEN!
The 2010 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp ruled!!!!
I think Stalker is right.
You’re leaving out weak ground outs, or fly balls with no one on base.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
What no weak ground outs?
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hill got on base?
I find that hard to believe.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Please pitch well Ted!!
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Feel again.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
My god Dave Kaplan
is an obnoxious ass.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Anybody know why Strassburg was suddenly pulled from his start tonight?
He was facing Hanson and I planned on watching some of the game
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
Doesn't sound like anyone knows yet
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/07/stephen_strasburg_scratched.html
Stephen Strasburg scratched
The Nationals have scratched Stephen Strasburg from his start against the Atlanta Braves. It is unknown at the moment why Strasburg will not pitch. Miguel Batista will start for the Nationals.
Strasburg went through his typical pregame routine, long-tossing in the outfield and throwing a few pitches in the bullpen. Early this afternoon, Strasburg seemed normal and at ease. He sat at his locker watching video on his laptop, then sat a clubhouse coach comfortably.
When Miguel Batista was announced as the starting pitcher, the large crowd at Nationals Park, expecting to see the 22-year-old phenom, booed.
More information to come.
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
Interesting. Guess we will find out soon.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 27, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
that was post about a minute before the game started
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You didn't hear yet? We're trading Lilly, Marmol and Lee for Strasburg and Dunn.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
can't we pls throw in Theriot
"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland
And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
This
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
We can't...
he’s being named Player/Manager for 2011.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Demanding fans.
I can’t imagine the kind of pressure that is on Strasburg, and will continue to be on him no matter where he plays.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
precautionary, he didnt feel right warming up
the Nats are limiting his innings anyway, so they are being extra cautious
by holy mackeral on Jul 27, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Michael Brenly
singles in a run in a two run first. Now hitting .314.
I'm convinced he could come up right now and play better than Hill.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He couldn't be any worse.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Hill looks like a lumberjack. And bats like one.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I assume you are kidding but remember he is only in high A ball
However the Cubs do seem chock full of good catching prospects in the minors.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 27, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
well, i was pretty out of it yesterday ..
i have my good days and my bad ones
but I’m going to watch MLB.TV right now .. and watch the Cubs win this one.
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
For those with WGN America, game is on tonight.
Shame they missed Theriot’s BLAST last night lol.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
where ever you are, Coolio .. I didn't forget you .. 1-2-3
TWIRL
GO CUBS!
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Bad form. She's gonna spill that beer!
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
that's not me...I never spill my beer, and I already TWIRLED....GO CUBS!!!!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Jul 27, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Mets 3, Cards 0 2nd Inning. man this is what Yahoo has on the Sports title page.
But it’s about the wrong game sheesh. Actually 1-1 in the 3rd. Way to go Yahoo.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 6:58 PM CDT reply actions
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