The NL’s Second Best Outfielder

I'm posting this article about Andres Torres because I went to dozens of games in 2008 where I saw him up close and personal at AAA Iowa. This seems to have become a trend in the last three years, in which the Cubs have either just missed on a prospect, or given up on him entirely only to have him see success with other teams.

I'm looking at YOU Casey McGehee and Angel Pagan!

That's the real bitter pill we've had to swallow as a result of aging players attached to long term contracts.

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a prospect at 30?

what?

by jesus christos on Jul 27, 2010 4:48 PM CDT reply actions

I didn't mean to imply Torres was a prospect...

Just grumbling at hindsight is all…

2010 WAR (wins above replacement):
Angel Pagan: 3.7 WAR
Andres Torres: 4.1 WAR
Alfonso Soriano: 2.8 WAR
Kosuke Fukudome: 0.8 WAR

Pagan is the one who really hurts.

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by IowaCubs- on Jul 27, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions

Pagan is dumber than Ronny Cedeno

I don’t care that he’s gone. He’s back with the Mets where he started anyway, as one of their top prospects.

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by SackMan on Jul 27, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Dumber than Ronny Cedeno????

I remember Pagan. He was able to walk without falling over. That is the only criteria I will accept for considering someone dumber than Cedeno.

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by Worf on Jul 27, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions

at least

bobby scales got a shot at the majors. does that make you feel any better?

by circuitclout on Jul 27, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions

And as a left fielder too.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 27, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions

Why are you saying he's the 2nd best outfielder in the NL anyway?

man I don’t see any reason to bring up the old Casey McGehee thing.

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 27, 2010 6:08 PM CDT reply actions

Ye olde McGehee has been declining

237/306/370 since June.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 27, 2010 6:14 PM CDT reply actions

Second best outfielder in the NL

Can this please stop. All this WAR stuff, it is a wonderful stat, however I am not taking Andres Torres over Colvin or Byrd on this team. A 30 year old outfielder having a good year, nice story.
Pagan, Torres and McGehee those three would surely have the Cubs in the playoffs

by Grockcubs on Jul 27, 2010 11:53 PM CDT reply actions

You shouldn't be comparing him to Colvin or Byrd

You should be comparing him to Milton Bradley, Kosuke Fukudome, or Xavier Nady, who we’ve spent many millions of dollars to have suck it up in our OF the past few seasons.

by madcow256 on Jul 28, 2010 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions

Thank you... this was the point of my post.

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by IowaCubs- on Jul 28, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions

WE HAD JOSH HAMILTON, TOO!

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by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2010 11:53 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah, we sure did.

Along with Lincecum, only problem with Lincecum is he wouldn’t have been half the pitcher he is now, at least I don’t think so. We picked him up in the ’03 draft before he even went to college, and I think he was wise to go to college and re-enter the draft, only to be chosen by San Francisco.

by ZachenFoot on Jul 28, 2010 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions

Lincecum didn't sign when we drafted him.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 28, 2010 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes, I'm aware.

Hence, “I think he was wise to go to college and re-enter the draft, only to be chosen by San Francisco.”

by ZachenFoot on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions

People need to stop talking about McGehee and Pagan.

There was no way in hell they were going to play with the Cubs. How would you have felt two years ago if McGehee started over Ramirez? What about Pagan starting over Soriano or any other outfield? They would have never succeeded in Chicago and that’s the simple truth. So STFU and criticizing Hendry for giving them away.

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by lexmarklover on Jul 29, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions