… I’d do this deal in about two seconds.

I didn’t expect to get anything of value for Theriot, consdiering that, you know, he’s not good at baseball. But to get Kelly Johnson? DO IT NOW!

Next?

Johnson is miles better than theriot. A solid, lefty hitting second baseman with some pop and the ability to walk. And we give up a mediocre righty hitting second baseman with no pop and can go a month without drawing a walk. Oh wait, I forgot, Ryan is SCRAPPY!!! Silly me!

I wonder if they see Theriot as a potential stop-gap shortstop, allowing them to trade Stephen Drew in the offseason. Seems they’ve gotten some strong interest in Drew, and if they’re in full rebuilding mode, might want to deal him. Johnson has also had some injury problems which have contributed to him going through some hot and cold patches this year.

Otherwise, I don’t understand why they would want Theriot.

I am not sure I want Johnson as the starting 2B. Is he that good defensively? I honestly don’t know but he does not seem that good a hitter. Mind you I don’t care about Theriot because I think he is gone but I do like Russell.

Log jam of 2B types gets worse but who cares

Hopefully the holdup is only because the return for Lilly+Theriot from the Dodgers is better than Kelly Johnson. If not, I hope this trade goes down. Regardless, I’d hope Theriot ends up in one of these trades.

Russell has been OK, but to me, Russell, Berg, Stevens, Gray, etc. all seem like the same guy when it comes to the bullpen. And at this point in the year, I don’t think it really matters who’s gone from the bullpen.

The trade is two guys who combined have a WAR of -0.6 for a young cheap second baseman with a SLG of .500 and a WAR of 3.4. So your basically have a net gain of four wins.

Tweet from Jayson Stark:

#Diamondbacks have agreed to trade Chad Qualls to #Rays for a player to be named later. More to come on ESPN.com #trades

This could make the D’backs more interested in Russell to fill a bullpen vacancy.

Anybody know Johnson’s salary this year?

Sounds like more of the same with no upside. No money saved in the future. Get some arms for the love of God.

The Cubs rejected an offer of Oliver Perez and Luis Castillo for Zambrano, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman.

in a millisecond. Then deal just Lilly to LA.

According to tweet from FSN Arizona’s Jack Magruder:

#Dbacks to get IF Crosby, OF Church in Snyder deal, sources say. With Qualls’ lost to Tampa, that puts them at 25 … for now.

If the D’backs got Crosby, they don’t need Theriot. I could be wrong, but I don’t see them trading for TWO mediocre middle infielders on the same day.

Theriot at 2B/SS with Russell in their pen.

they just got a reliever in the deal, as well.

If you had, there is no way you’d be clamoring for this deal. Yes, it gets rid of a baseball-dumb guy in Theriot. Good-bye first-pitch fielder’s choices to SS! In return you can say hello to “swinging for the fences every single time”. First pitch? Sure. Ball in the dirt in the opposite batter’s box? No problem! That one that would have hit him? Gonna try and yank it outta here.

So you trade away one guy who makes fans tear their hair out at how dumb he is for a…guy who makes fans tear their hair out at how dumb he is, but with power.

And while Theriot’s defensive foibles are somewhat random, Johnson has a knack for the Big Error. Bottom 9, 2 out, 1st and 3rd, up by 1? That’s exactly when he’ll let a soft roller dink off his glove into RF.

I have watched Kelly Johnson. I have cursed Kelly Johnson. And I will tell you this now: Ryan Theriot is Kelly Johnson.

Just say no, Jim.

Loney and Kershaw. Book it.

compared to Theriot… and he’s a couple years younger too.

three way deal? Theriot & Russell for Johnson. Johnson and Lilly to LA for Dewitt and Sands

If Lilly and Theriot are headed to L.A., but the Diamondbacks are interested in Theriot, why not offer Fontenot/Russell for Johnson?

The MLB network guy are talking about Dee Gordon in a Lilly deal. I think he’s like their top prospect

But I think Gordon is pretty athletic

Ken Rosenthal – Source: Dodgers trying to make Lilly/Theriot deal work. DeWitt to Cubs if it happens, along with at least one other.

Latest from Rosenthal:

Source: Dodgers trying to make Lilly/Theriot deal work. DeWitt to Cubs if it happens, along with at least one other.

From Levine:

Cubs front office has had discussions about moving Tyler Colvin to first base next season.

Theriot to Dodgers because

McCourt wants to get in on some of that Jersey selling action. "huh huh, it says "the riot"

thats how it works

Peter Gammons says that Lilly might be traded to the Dodgers within the next 30 minutes.

   Chris Le Duca: Including Theriot will seal Lilly-to-Dodgers deal from Chicago’s view. Dodgers are in a 1-horse race. 7 minutes ago via TweetDeck
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dylanohernandez:

   Source: The #Dodgers are on the verge of acquiring Ted Lilly and Ryan Theriot.
Link

According to Jim Bowden (XM Radio), Ted Lilly and Ryan Theriot have been traded to the Dodgers. No word on the return.

tweet said DeWitt, AA pitchers, and someonelse.. this sucks. Sorry I dont have the link. It was sent to my phone

right now is reporting it’s a done deal. No word on return from her either…

DeWitt has a centerpiece? You kidding me?

The Cubs have been going back and forth on both deals, knowing they can’t trade Theriot twice.

Obviously, it was the best offer out there, so they took it. People here overvalue Lilly because of the sentimental value, so of course they’re mad. But what’d you expect? You’re trading a good-ish but not great pitcher and an average second basemen. The Dodgers weren’t going to give you their three top prospects in a trade?

:rolls eyes:

I realize I shouldn’t take anything “ryno G” says seriously. A few posts up he thought Dee Gordon was a reasonable prospect to get from the Dodgers.