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Cubs Season Ticket Holder Appreciation Day

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Tom Ricketts addresses season ticket holders on Thursday

In four separate sessions today (these are still going on this afternoon), the Cubs invited season ticket holders to the ballpark to explore various areas that are usually off-limits, including the entire field. There were long lines to stand on the mound or get photos taken at home plate; they opened up the PNC Club (very nice, incidentally) and the batting cage beneath the right field bleachers for public view.

About 800 people were at the session I attended, at 11:30 this morning. The sun came out just in time -- Tom Ricketts told me that while he was driving in, it was briefly raining and they had to start the earlier morning session with the tarp on the field. But it stopped, cleared out and they were expecting similar numbers of season ticket holders to attend afternoon sessions.

The Cubs opened the clubhouse, though just for viewing, not for walking in; Carlos Zambrano's locker, right at the entrance, was still filled with various jerseys, personal items and, on the top shelf, about six bats. Across the hallway from the clubhouse, in what used to be the umpires' dressing room, is a private lounge for the players where they can go. No media is allowed in that room. It contains several large couches, a lounge chair, a large flatscreen TV, snacks, drinks, books and magazines, and a fully equipped version of the Rock Star video game with two guitars. This was designed with the help of several Cubs players and is all part of the eventual plan to have upgraded player facilities when the Triangle Building is built. It was, unfortunately, too crowded in there to get any decent photos.

Cubs management including Tom Ricketts, Crane Kenney, Wally Hayward, Carl Rice, Mark McGwire, Jahaan Blake, Frank Maloney and Mike Lufrano (who is pictured at Tom Ricketts' left above) were there and talked to many fans. Ricketts took notes when people brought things to his attention; I'm still hoping to arrange another sit-down interview with him later this season.

After the jump, a photo of fans on the field this afternoon.

Star-divide

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Photos by Al Yellon

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Was it one invite per season ticket account? I share season tix, and they are in the name of my partner, so I was wondering if he simply did not invite me, or could only go alone.

Steve Swisher - 1976 NL All-Star Catcher

by Dan Serafini on Jul 8, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

He could have invited you.

They said they put names down on a list, but no one checked as people walked in. You could have attended.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Of course, I cannot make too much of a fuss, as he can pull the plug on my tickets any time he wants.

Of course, it will be interesting if the 100K season ticket list goes down after this season.

Steve Swisher - 1976 NL All-Star Catcher

by Dan Serafini on Jul 8, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it will...

… unless prices go down, they have a good second half, they improve the team, replace baseball management, or all of the above.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

When is the last time the list went down?

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 8, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

After last season...

… when they offered some new season tickets and some people moved off the list because they couldn’t afford tickets or turned them down.

Otherwise I don’t think it’s EVER gone down. It’s only existed since 2004.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize it didn't start until 04

I would have thought they had a waiting list before then

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 8, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not until after the near miss in 03.

Before that, you could walk up and buy season tickets.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Mark McGwire view the training facilities?

Hmmm now I see how Rolen got access :P

"The ones who want to achieve and win championships motivate themselves." - Da Coach

by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 8, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never received the invite...

…do you know when/how it was sent?

Jack
derv

by derv on Jul 8, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

By email to the account holder.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

what date was it sent?

if you don’t mind…thanks!

Jack
derv

by derv on Jul 8, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine is dated June 24.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry you couldn't make it.

I’m guessing they will do this again.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

List goes down regularly -

I was on it for 7 years, and it did move some every year – it moved more this year than in past years though.

I know we had this conversation on a previous post, Al, but I still doubt the list will move that much in the next few years – it is over 120,000 and as it took 7 years to move the few thousand spots for me to get tickets, even if they go through the list at 10 times the current rate it will be well over a decade before anyone at the back gets in.

I attended the 2 Pm session – other than the extreme heat on the field, it was awesome to be out there. I saw the Rickets’ talking to people, but as my 18 month old son was about to burst into tears from the heat, I didn’t take the time to wait and talk with him.

by paul_reuschel on Jul 8, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it all depends on where ticket prices go.

We are still in a recession. If prices go up and the team continues on its current course, you could see a LOT of defections and/or cancellations.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point on the prices

Yes, there probably would be defections and cancellations – perhaps many – but again, if you’re in the last third or so of the waiting list, I’d bet it’s still a 10 + year wait.

I have spoken with my rep a few times already and let him know it would be extremely difficult to justify continuing in my current seats at the same, much less a higher, price – upper deck outfield boxes – I hope to be able to move to much more affordable upper deck reserved (inf or outfield, don’t care)

by paul_reuschel on Jul 8, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

I am currently projecting myself to get season tickets when I am 119 or so…and I am 34,000ish

Sipping the Kool-Aid since 1982 - Kinda
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119

by hansman1982 on Jul 8, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

Your current place on the Wait List is 12859

…so I have THAT going for me…which is nice…

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 8, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

goto

Here

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Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119

by hansman1982 on Jul 8, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just saw some pics of this event on Twitter...

…and was wondering whether you attended. I’d love to see Ricketts’ list of Cubs fans’ suggestions.

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by daver on Jul 8, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Carlos Zambrano’s locker, right at the entrance, was still filled with various jerseys, personal items and, on the top shelf, about six bats.

Why wouldn’t it be?

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Jul 8, 2010 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Um...

… because he’s on the restricted list and can’t come in there?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

and someone reported

that they went on a wrigley tour shortly after the “event” and it was empty.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Jul 8, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good.

That is at least positive. They should stop these tours altogether. I know they benefit Cubs Care charities, but I get so pissed when the team is performing like this to see the emphasis being placed on the beauty and history of the ballpark. We know the ballpark is beautiful and historic. I want to see the team win. And all Cubs’ employees’ time and energy should be spent improving the team. Not conducting ballpark tours.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Jul 8, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gee do you think that the Cubs have Scouts and coaches giving tours!

Stop ripping the Cubs for areas that have nothing to do with the team or its performance. This is not worth getting ‘pissed’ about.

by Chodes on Jul 8, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, it's probably not worth getting pissed about.

It’s just the idea that I don’t like. The team sucks, and yet the organization is promoting the ballpark. I know it’s probably interns giving the tours. It just gives a bad message. And maybe when the team is playing like this, I get a bit unreasonable. So sue me.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Jul 8, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like it or not

Baseball is also a business. Part of that is keeping customers happy and the tours do that.

I did the Wrigley tour and several years ago I did the Fenway tour. The Fenway tour was conducted by some guy who also worked in the team store. Somehow I don’t think he helps David Ortiz improve his game.

Should the Cubs stop selling souvenirs too when the team isn’t doing well? The tours aren’t much different than buying souvenirs.

by rlpete on Jul 8, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

No reason for anger

So many teams do this; what’s the issue? And if ownership wants it’s best paying customers to get a little extra value, what’s the harm?

Chill… this has nothing to do with bad long-term contracts.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 8, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Although there was this 10 year old at Road to Wrigley last night

He made a great catch on a 2 hopper to section 10 down the left field side. I expected someone to come sign him up. sweet play.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 8, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, my bad.

Should have read the above post first. So Zambrano’s locker was empty, not the tour. Well, I still stand by everything I said about those tours.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Jul 8, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The locker wasn't empty.

I saw it. The only thing that wasn’t there was his jersey hanging.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zambrano's locker photo

This was taken at the 2PM session today.

Zambrano-Locker

by AlSpangler on Jul 8, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for posting.

Could not get that close. Right above where that champagne bottle is, is where the bats are.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

So they fixed the hole in the wall next to his locker then?

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 8, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

...and the champagne bottle is for... what exactly?...

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 8, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

whats the white with yellow and blue stripes shirt for?

"Shut the f*** up" – Derrek Lee. Well said my man, well said.

by jesus christos on Jul 8, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Anyone else notice the Michael Barrett bobblehead in his locker. I wonder if this was some kind of joke. I know that’s the Barrett bobblehead because I have it.

by Les Lancaster's Mullet on Jul 8, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that's not going to happen

No team is going to stop ballpark tours like this or other non-game fan experience programs.

None of these programs detract the baseball personnel of an organization from performing their job.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 8, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing every team does this every year

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 8, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fan experience programs are very big now

The Dodgers have done sleepovers at the Stadium and yoga classes. I’m sure there are new Yankee stadium tours. The Cubs have the Cubs cruise each summer – $300 each and have a beer with ARam. And off-season programs – Disney event, Caribbean vacation.

They’re just trying to use the fan loyalty to capture more of your discretionary dollars.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 8, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, but

if I’m suspended from school, I don’t empty out my locker.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Jul 8, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drew

If Z gets traded (& with he should not be named gone) who are planning on defending to the death?

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 8, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe that doesn't

but you have defended Z quite a bit, and so I was wondering if you had someone waiting in the wings to defend if those two are gone.

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 8, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

my $ is on Koyie Hill

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 8, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Klaw

needs no defense.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Jul 8, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

let's focus on reasonable topics, shall we?

there’s absolutely no reason for Z to have not left stuff in his locker. Pete’s sake.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Jul 8, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

there's lot of reasons...

the exterminator might have come while the team was on the road and everyone needed to clean out their lockers

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 8, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

derp derp

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Jul 8, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

What was Ricketts take on the team's performance this year?

Was he grilled by the fans in attendance? Did he seem pissed about how the season has played out? That, more than anything, is what I would have looked for. Anger. If there is one thing I want to see out of those in charge, it’s anger and perhaps even more important, resolve. The worst thing I could see is Ricketts talking about “Beautiful Wrigley Field” and the fan experience. I don’t want to hear about the restrooms or concession areas. I want to know how they plan to improve the team on the field.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Jul 8, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

He didn't do a Q&A session...

… just talked to people individually.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you don't run a business

Canceling an event like this because of poor team performance or having an owner show negative emotions to the public is not sound business.

This event has nothing to do with the the onfield performance. It is customer relations. Those relations are more important when the team is doing poorly, particularly in the first year of ownership. Showing the season ticket holders the back of the house in no way negatively impacts the teams performance on the field.

Secondly, what would you expect Ricketts to do? Come out yelling and ranting about how the team sucked in May and June? What good does that do? Yes, he should have resolve for long term improvement of the team. That resolve should be even keeled, thoughtful and deliberate.

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on Jul 8, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I never said anywhere that this event should be cancelled.

In fact, it’s good to have an owner who wants to engage with fans. What I was talking about above was the Wrigley Field tours, and maybe that was just a rant because I’m frustrated about how this team has played.

And what I was asking about Ricketts was, what topics did he focus on? Based on the picture above, it looked like he did a Q&A, which apparently he did not. My question was, did he want to talk about improvement to the ballpark like restrooms and concessions, or how the team was going to be improved? I feel like talking about how the team would be improved is the very essence of customer relations. These are the people who want to win. No, I wouldn’t expect him to rant and rave about how bad things are. I would expect him to talk openly about how disappointing the team’s performance has been, and how they plan to turn things around. As a paying customer (though not a season ticket holder), that’s what I want to hear about.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Jul 8, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did not do a Q&A.

He introduced himself and the other management folks and welcomed people He did not take questions in that session.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

DINGDINGDING!

Winner.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The main difference of course is that the CEO of a mortgage company provides a service that people need

Ricketts’ business depends ENTIRELY on the goodwill of the fan base, something he clearly understands considering how much time has been spent on a PR offensive since he took over.

And if you’re going to hold a public event like this, and APPEAR at the public event, I would think it would be EXPECTED that you have a Q&A session. If the same CEO of the mortgage company offered up tours to his most loyal customers and made an appearance, he should expect questions too.

I don’t hate Ricketts, I just don’t trust him at all.

by HuskerCorner on Jul 8, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, at least I'm not a pariah to everyone on the site.

Folks, the questions I was asking above were curiosity questions, nothing more, nothing less. I asked about the Q&A only because it appeared from the picture above that he was talking to fans similar to the Cubs Convention. Okay? I was obviously mistaken, which happens occasionally. There was no hatred intended. Like a lot of people, I happen to be a little pissed about the way the Cubs have performed this year, and my point was that I hope Ricketts addressed some points about how they plan to improve the team instead of talking about improving the restrooms and concession areas, which was a topic he could not seem to stop talking about when they took control of the team. I happen to like the fact that the Ricketts own the team instead of the Tribune Co. and in the long run I feel like they will be great for the team. Okay? Sheesh, sorry I brought it up.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Jul 8, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

while I replied to you

the comment wasnt solely directed to you but to the handful of BCB’ers, BCB-oans, BCB-oites? who constantly demand a freekin miracle and expected a WS ring from him this year.

Sipping the Kool-Aid since 1982 - Kinda
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119

by hansman1982 on Jul 9, 2010 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

My buddy is attending this afternoon with his son

I submitted his name to attend.

Tom Ricketts was at the Road to Wrigley game last night as well and another buddy spoke to him there.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 8, 2010 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Careful Al. Once they start letting 'regular' folks on the field...

it’s only a short step to: DISCO DEMOLITION NIGHT!

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 8, 2010 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Apparently the message being flashed on the scoreboard back in 1979 didn't work too well...

Good news though. #30 was the Cubs starter that night and the Cubs wen’t losing yet. (And the Sox had lost the first game of the DH to the Tigers 4-1)

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 8, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frank Pastore for the Reds?

Steve Swisher - 1976 NL All-Star Catcher

by Dan Serafini on Jul 8, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paul Moskau

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 8, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ken Holtzman for the Cubs?

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

No. Ken was long gone in 1979.

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 8, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't he come back in the late '70s to finish his career as a Cub?

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Jul 8, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

1978 and 1979. Holtzman did, in fact, start the game that’s shown on the board, in Cincinnati on July 12, 1979.

Holtzman didn’t make it out of the fourth inning, but the Cubs won that game. I remember watching it — there was a long rain delay, and the winning runs were driven in by Bruce Sutter, with a two-run single in the ninth inning — his first major league RBI.

Note that the Cubs overcame an 8-0 deficit by scoring ten runs in the last three innings.

Oh, but wait, I forgot. That only happens at Coors Field.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Note.

The long rain delay in Cincinnati that night is the reason that game shows in that photo as in the first inning with no score, while other NL games are underway. IIRC it did not start until almost 10 pm Cincinnati time.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was checking on the Holtzman #30 question when our power went out for 3 hours.

and Kenny did indeed come back. I was wrong in my earlier post.

I’ll never let it happen again until the next time it does. ;)

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 8, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice Win

Bruce Sutter could not have had too many game winning RBI in his career. That Reds team went on to win the NL West. I don’t remember the 1979 Cubs, but I wish the club hadn’t completely fallen apart in September. That set the table for the abysmal 1980 and 1981 seasons.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow!

Apparently Sutter’s bat helped him get into the Hall of Fame along with all the two and three-innng saves. :)

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Jul 8, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

I linked it in my comment above.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember this

Those are pictures of dedicated white sox fans who only attend white sox fans when the “product on the field” is satisfactory.

That is NOT a bunch of people-watching, beer-drinking, Cubs fans who don’t pay attention to the game!

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Jul 8, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spellcheck: Mark McGuire

That Mark McGwire guy is the hitting coach with the Cardinals. I know the Cubs’ Mark McGuire gets his name misspelled a lot.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

So is it still unfair to discount those other tickets?

When you get visits like this as part of your deal as a season ticket holder?

by Arbusto on Jul 8, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Simple answer:

Yes.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

You got the tickets at the price that you agreed to pay. They are no longer worth that price on the open market.

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 8, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank You So Much For Your Money

If I were Ricketts, I would say, “Thank you so much for your money. We have been lousy this year, and we appreciate the fact that you still support us with the exorbitant ticket prices.”

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Not Big on Season Ticket Buying

The only thing I buy season tickets for is University of Memphis football. That’s only $110 a year for the fun zone seats. I do admire the financial commitment that season ticket holders for the Cubs put forth. The owners don’t have any obligation to recognize that fact. I do think that the Ricketts could curry favor with the season ticket holders by acknowledging the tremendous financial commitment.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not "Exorbitant"

I wouldn’t expect the word “exorbitant” to be used. “Expensive” is a word that the Ricketts could use.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

not it's not.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 8, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly this is a business

he says anything remotely like that it’ll be splashed from sea to shining sea in every newspaper, blog and twitter account. I think he is more savvy than that.

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 8, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse Me!

Let it splash from sea to shining sea in every newspaper, blog, and twitter account.

If he did actually acknowledge that the prices were expensive, he would gain a lot of respect from fans of not only the Cubs but of other teams. That doesn’t mean he should lower the prices. However, the amount of appreciation he would be showing to the fans that pay those prices would be invaluable from a PR standpoint.

It would be nice to have an owner admit that the customers make a huge sacrifice to partake of their product.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 8, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't be snarky

Personally I think him being upfront would be refreshing, I wish there was more of that in the world. Not just in baseball but in business in general.

That being said, he being a savvy business man (& lets hope he is) I can’t see if happening, as a comment like that would then become big news. Right now I hope he is thinking about other things ie how to improve this team for year 2 and beyond. This was just a PR thing he had to do.

"Actually, Major League Baseball is more like Neverland

And the Lost Boys don’t have to ever grow up. Some do, anyway, but that is not a universal characteristic"

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 8, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should Have Kept Ticket Prices Steady

Believe me! I can see why the Ricketts shouldn’t lower ticket prices. I can understand the idea that you don’t want to devalue your own product. However, coming off of a disappointing season in 2009, I feel as if the ticket prices should have stayed steady in 2010. The Ricketts were obviously thinking that this club would be better than it is and that customers would be willing to pay the extra dollars to see a winning team. I don’t feel as if increasing the number of premium games or whatever they are called was wise.

I know the ticket sales have still been good this season, but I feel they would be slightly better, if the ticket prices had remained steady.
I’d like to think there won’t be any ticket price increases for next season. Realistically, I see more ticket price increases coming in 2011.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

However, coming off of a disappointing season in 2009, I feel as if the ticket prices should have stayed steady in 2010.

That would have brought a great deal of goodwill. More increases in price next year will result in lower sales. Book it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dropoff Will Be More Dramatic

I really want to be wrong about ticket prices going up next season. I fear that increases in the prices next season are going to lead to a more significant dropoff in ticket sales from 2010 to 2011 than what we’ve seen so far from 2009 to 2010.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would agree.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Book it..." Danno?

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Jul 8, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell you what memphis, don't whine when season ticket holders get

first shot at playoff tickets. I sick of the “real” fan whining that comes everytime the Cubs get into the playoffs. The “real” fan wants playoffs but never pays a full season to get those rights and then crys that they don’t let the “real” fans in.

by cubswin on Jul 8, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I'd say

you are overpaying to watch a crummy team play other lackys. Like UT Martin! WOW!

by The E-Man on Jul 8, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Al

How does the PNC Club compare to Turner Field’s 755 Club?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 8, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Smaller.

The 755 Club is a sit-down restaurant. The PNC Club is more like a much-enlarged suite. There’s an area where they have food trays, and a full-service bar, but it’s more like a bar than the clubs at larger parks.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

So it's like if the 755 Club were stripped of everything but the bar and lounge area?

Small tables with stools and some seats around the bar? I assume the food is going to be finger food and hot dogs with that sort of arrangement, but how is the drink selection?

I’ve been curious about it, since they promote it fairly heavily during TV broadcasts. The photos they show during the broadcasts aren’t very informative, though.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 8, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drink selection looked pretty good, though they were not serving any.

Looks like a full-service bar.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 8, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good to know

One of these days (no time soon), I may want to check it out a little closer. As much as I love Wrigley in other ways, I got spoiled by the Chop House, the 755 Club, and the club level at Turner. I like being able to drink something other than crap beer at the park, and now that Wrigley has done away with anything better than Heineken, I’m not inclined to buy anything harder than a soda in the Friendly Confines. If I’m gonna pay exorbitant prices for alcohol, it’s gotta be something I actually enjoy drinking.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 8, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

As an out of town season ticket holder

I will never be able to attend as I am not flying in special for it. Just have to be satisfied with asking questions at the convention where at least you get a chance to discuss issues openly.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 8, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Do You Sell A Lot of Your Tickets Then?

Are you able to unload most of the tickets that you don’t use?

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 8, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could unload all of them IF I were more organized & ruthless

I hold on to too many since I am not always sure of my schedule and friends ask later. This year
I did sell more ahead than usual but still “ate” a few games and sold others for a loss , something I expect will happen to some but not all of my remaining games.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 8, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

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