The Welington Castillo Era Begins: Cubs vs. Giants Preview, Wednesday 8/11, 9:15 CT
by Al Yellon on Aug 11, 2010 6:00 PM CDT
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PrintSAN FRANCISCO -- Yesterday, I wrote this as the beginning of the game preview:
After a nice lunch on the Embarcadero here in San Francisco, and watching the fog try somewhat uneasily to lift this afternoon, I went back to write this preview and had no real ideas. How many great ideas for game previews can you possibly have when the Cubs have lost 11 of their last 12?
All I'd have to do is change "11 of their last 12" to "11 of their last 13" and the lunch location to Sam's Anchor Cafe, and I could post it again. Sam's, located in Marin County (Tiburon), is one of my favorite spots in the Bay Area.
Otherwise, nothing's really changed since yesterday. The Cubs are half a game out of fourth place. Big whoop, right? Tonight, Welington Castillo will be making his major league debut, starting at catcher. He'll be wearing uniform #53, for those of us who keep track of such things (and yes, his first name is correctly spelled with only one "L"). Castillo is 23 and should, I would think, have a pretty good shot at being Geovany Soto's backup next year. At least we know we'll no longer have a manager who's obsessed with having a lefthanded hitting backup catcher, to the point that the perfectly serviceable Henry Blanco, who put up four decent years as the Cubs' backup catcher, was jettisoned and has had useful years for the Padres and Mets the last two years. Actually, I don't have a huge problem with Koyie Hill as backup -- it's just that he's been used too much, and Blanco, I believe, is better.
Rant over -- follow me past the jump for tonight's game preview. First, lineup via tweet from Carrie:
#Cubs lineup for Wed vs #Giants RF Colvin, SS Castro, 1B Nady, 3B Ramy, CF Byrd, LF Sori, 2B DeWitt, C Castillo (ML Debut), P Gorzelanny
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After pitching poorly in the first two years of his huge Giants contract, Barry Zito has been solid the last two years. Lifetime against the Cubs, though, it's a different story: 1-3 in five career starts with a 4.66 ERA. That includes a lineup of Cub scrubs cuffing him around pretty good last September 26. Today would have been a good day to sit Alfonso Soriano, as he is only 5-for-39 (.128) against Zito lifetime, with 14 strikeouts. But then, Lou and Tram probably don't read these previews.
Tom Gorzelanny was Zito's opponent in that 9/26/2009 game and he threw five decent innings, allowing one run, and got the win despite throwing a large number of pitches (95). No current Giant has more than three career AB against Tom and Aaron Rowand -- who might start tonight, think of him as the Giants' version of Kosuke Fukudome -- is the only one who has homered off him.
Tonight's game is back on the CSN's, Chicago and Bay Area. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Giants site McCovey Chronicles.
Tonight's first pitch thread will be up at 9:15 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 10:15 pm, 11:15 pm and midnight CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Finds it funny that no matter who's playing 1st...
….they MUST bat 3rd.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
Why, I have proof that's not true!
On July 28, Jeff Baker played 1B and batted seventh.
So it’s happened at least once in… well, about three years.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Can Nady top 0-5 with an error?
That’s what Hoffpauir gave the Cubs last night.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
But, but
Micah Hoffpauir is the future at 1B!
by Brett Taylor on Aug 11, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
At Iowa?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Looks like Zito went to Glamor Shots
Also, all I can hear when I look at that pic is “Some Where… Out There…”
Hope you are enjoying your time in SF Al.
It sounds like it. Someday I want to take in a game in the ‘new’ ballpark. My last Giants game in SF was at the stick in 1999. One of the coldest sunny afternoons in June I’ve ever spent. At least my seat was in the sun. The folks sitting in the shade were literally wearing parkas. In June. Brrrr…..
We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971
AT&T Park is cold.
It’s tropical compared to the Stick.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Has your dad joined you at any games?
We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971
If you are coming up with your own line up why do you even have Nady hitting at all?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
Well that’s why I left him off the 1st time, figured we would do better if the lineup rolled a bit faster.
THIS JUST IN
The Giants have acquired Mike Fontenot from the Cubs in exchange for low-A infielder Evan Crawford.
Source: tweet from SJ Mercury News Giants beat writer Andrew Baggarly.
No word on who the Cubs will replace Fontenot with on the ML roster.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
BRING UP BARNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
My guess is, that's exactly what's going to happen.
This creates an opening on the 40-man roster; Barney will probably take Fontenot’s place and be recalled.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Barney is only 24 or 25 right?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
I hope so. I saw the guy play in College. You are going to love him!
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I take that back.
Darwin Barney has won everywhere he has played. Don’t bring him up. The Cubs must try to lose every game from here on out.
And Lou good thinking batting Nady 3rd. That will help the cubs lose for sure.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
well here is the problem
where has Barney ever played in the major leagues – he is unproven – he needs to play somewhere else to prove himeself…THEN we will bring him onto the team….
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NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Seriously?
Why? I liked Fontenot, but he was pretty superfluous. Don’t know anything about this low-A infielder, but Fontenot’s time as a Cub was done. Maybe he’ll get back to the postseason.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm being over dramatic.
I’m trying to win a grammy here
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
I'm trying to get anything...
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
He held that "no" for a long time
If the note was on, that could be Grammy material. Or with a lot of vibrato, American Idol…..
A Newbery Medal?
That’s for writing isn’t it? Or is that children’s writing? Hmmm…maybe that Dick and Jane post should get one?
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
Isn't that a Caldecott?
Whatever, the Dick & Jane post deserved it!
"Every day when I show up, I try to provide a little laughter...some days when I pitch it gets pretty funny, too." -- Ryan Dempster, 5/2010
by CaughtInTheVines on Aug 11, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Speed guy. One of the those 5-tool player that Hendry loves that turn out to only be a tool.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been surprised that in making deals this summer
Hendry hasn’t traded for any power, which seems to be lacking in the system.
Did you expect to really get anything significant in return for Fontenot?
I didn’t.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Not really
I wonder what the proposed deal with Giants was that had Font and Nady going there. Maybe that one had some cash.
Maybe.
I’ll bet this was part of the deal — the Giants are a little desperate for infielders right now. Renteria got hurt last night, that’s why he left the game.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
gives a certain amount of irony to your recap from last nights game
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 11, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I forgot about that
Makes sense. Well best of luck to Fontenot. Maybe it hasn’t hit me until now, but it’s a bit sad to see how many guys from the back to back division winner are gone. Fontenot played a small, but important role.
He's a Centerfielder.
Lead off guy with a below .700 OPS. Put up good number last year in A- in 31 games.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if Baker goes too.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Are we nearly Cajun-free now?
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
Next we need to trade the Canadians!
Damn hockey lovers with their well dressed horse riding police!
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You leave Demp alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Who else is going to show the team how to behave in bench clearers?
I mean, the Reds and Cards were really pitiful. A team needs hockey players to know how sports fights are properly conducted.
Ah crap
Figures the guy who hits the go-ahead runs in the pinch last night gets traded the next night.
Probly catch a lot of flak for this, but I kinda liked Fonty. He was a decent fielder (from what I remember in ‘09, I almost forgot he was on the team this year since Lou wouldn’t play him) so long as he was at second, and was an alright contact guy.
Seeing my first Cubs game at Wrigley in 2 weeks. Really wished I wasn’t watching the I-Cubs though.
He really was misused the last two years
Not suited to the eveyday mileage he got last year and buried on the bench this year. Good luck to him.
What the hell is Zito looking at?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 6:50 PM CDT reply actions
THIS ALSO JUST IN
John Grabow out for the year, via Twittermyer:
Grabow out for season. Felt pop in knee pitching monday. Mri wed revealed mcl tear.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
NOOOOOOO!!!!!(hehehe
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Who?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff Stevens is AMAZING!!!!
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
There goes the comeback nobody was waiting for.
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
i dont know if i can handle this overflow of good news
by jesus christos on Aug 11, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
More good news man
Carlos Zambrano claimed the Yankees for 2 minor leaguers
Source: www.tryingtomakejesuschristosorgazmic.org
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
THAT JOKE ISNT EVEN GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT
by jesus christos on Aug 11, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup. I F#^$$^ it up!
So I’ll just post a link to the BALLAD OF STEVEN SLATER.
It’s much funnier than I’ll ever be.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
What's Carlos going to do with an entire team?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 11, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
And what is Zambrano going to do with the Yankees?
And who gave him two minor leaguers to spend?
Will he send Girardi to the Cubs?
I really liked LouPiniellaIsRetiring post on our youth.
If nothing else I can get excited about the future of this team.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I agree
Youth is the only thing left to be excited about. Only a few more weeks until football starts
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 11, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I also agree.
I was driving north on Rush St. today, and I saw some young women. I got pretty excited about that.
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
well as bad as this seasons been
guessing they might be more interesting to watch than the Cubs. Just make sure you don’t watch them for 3 hours… you might get arrested for stalking :)
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 11, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Sullivan Tweets Fontenot to traded Giants
for Evan Crawford
Or here.
Tweets said Crawford is an infielder. Baseball-reference says he’s an outfielder. He just turned 22 last week.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm sorry we have seen the last of LBR
He left the team give the Cubs a big hit. He got in Lou’s doghouse and there he was left to rot. I wish him lots of luck and I’m excited to see theriot play against Fonty later in the season.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:03 PM CDT reply actions
Can you say Scott Eyre?
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
We didn't need Eyre
If we had let him be our LOOGY then we would have missed paying Garbow 12 mill for 3 years.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck with the Giants, cousin.
Some of you know that was the running joke in our family, since our last names are pretty similar. That’s about the most fun I’ve had in the last two years too, which is sad. ;-)
Anyone find it ironic that LBR is now playing for the Giants?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:07 PM CDT reply actions
Either you're misusing the word, or I'm definitely missing the irony
by HuskerCorner on Aug 11, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
LITTLE Babe Ruth = Giants
at least that is where I was going
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I see.
What you did there.
Win.
by RavenswoodRob on Aug 11, 2010 9:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Go Cubbies!
Hopefully we can make this a respectable series. On a side note, my parents live in Tiburon, and it is one of the most beautiful parts of the Bay Area, and also consistently warmer and sunnier than San Francisco. And it’s just a 15 min ferry ride from the city!
Good luck Mikey.
Hopefully he’ll get more playing time.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
The Giants Offense is so bad he might be hitting 3rd for them
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Theriots hitting 2nd for the Dodgers
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 11, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He could've hit 3rd for us
but he doesn’t play 1st base.
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
by Goodie1969 on Aug 11, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
He will now
Edgar Renteria is hurt again.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
They're gonna play him at SS?
Good luck with that.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 11, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think they will
He’s more of a backup and when he will play it will be at 2nd base.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
No more hobbits
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if we can get anyone to claim Z now?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:10 PM CDT reply actions
saw Barney play today
Amazed at how small he is. LBR would tower over him.
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 11, 2010 7:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Good Luck Mike
You did not deserve to be thrown in the doghouse.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
How do you know?
He might have peed in Lou’s shoes.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I sense a Zambrano PH appearance coming our way tonight...
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
We are at 24 I thought.
Hoff and Castillo have replaced Soto and Dlee I thought.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
What are the Giants getting in Fontenot?
Besides a reunion with his former college teammate Brian Wilson.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Defensively, he shouldn't play anywhere other than second
He’s got more pop in his bat than you’d expect. Doesn’t hit lefties well.
He had one year where he had some pop
But he doesn’t really have any pop
by HuskerCorner on Aug 11, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Brian Wilson's got pop!
The voice, the songwriting, the arranging skills….
Wait, what?
"Every day when I show up, I try to provide a little laughter...some days when I pitch it gets pretty funny, too." -- Ryan Dempster, 5/2010
by CaughtInTheVines on Aug 11, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
You are getting LBR AKA the Wonder Hamster.
He may try to ride your starting pitchers though.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 11, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is Ruth hitting righty?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
It sucks that DLEE didn't take the trade.
Then we would only have to get rid of Z, Dome, Sori, and Nady to make some really money to get a good free agent in the winter.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 7:18 PM CDT reply actions
But trading Lee wouldn't free up anything for 2011
So unless the Angels were offering someone really good, that move was pretty much a nothingburger.
The hope was moving what was left of 2010
It would have been about 5 million.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm excited for this game, only because my brother's nickname for me is Welington.
Also it’s my b-day, so i’m hopin they can actually win one for me.
by Dcr18 on Aug 11, 2010 7:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sam's in Tiburon.....
..awesome spot. Did you try the Eggs Benedict?
Looking out at the Bay and the Golden Gate…hard to beat that!
Good for Castillo
I always applaud when a guy gets a chance to step into the bright lights. And, as with Barney, time to see if he can hold down a back-up spot for next year. This year is a loss, time to see if we have some cheaper replacements in the system for utility guy and catcher.
got decent pop, bad BA. solid defensively
by jesus christos on Aug 11, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I might be wrong...
But I’d say his ceiling is a decent starting catcher, but more likely to just be a solid backup
by Dcr18 on Aug 11, 2010 8:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Looks like we can gain a game on the Pirates tonight.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
This is thew shittiest Cub lineup I've seen since before the Sosa era!
"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"
You never have anything positive to say,do you?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
When they Cubs do something positive I do
"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"
We'll probably win now!
I am the opposite of some of the mamby pamby kool aid drinkers on here, you know, the ones that wanted Murton to play more and for Hoff to start over DLee. Keeps things in balance
"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"
SF Giants Twitter says fans nicknamed Fontenot the Swamp Thing because of his Louisiana roots. Really?
"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."
Fonty & Riot from best friends
to mortal enemies as in Giants Vs Dodgers. I assume LBR still gets to babysit in the off season.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
I just have to stand up for Dome
Aaron Rowand — who might start tonight, think of him as the Giants’ version of Kosuke Fukudome — is the only one who has homered off him.
C’mon! Kosuke’s OPS is more than a hundred points better! And he’s…well….not scrappy, exactly, but….ah, never mind. I just have a soft spot for the guy.
"Every day when I show up, I try to provide a little laughter...some days when I pitch it gets pretty funny, too." -- Ryan Dempster, 5/2010
by CaughtInTheVines on Aug 11, 2010 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
If the line up looks like spring training
then why the hell is so damn hot and humid?
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 11, 2010 9:15 PM CDT reply actions
JUMP!!!
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/8/11/1617448/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs-giants#comments
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
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