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Cubs Lead, Pitching Fails, Cubs Lose: Same Old Story

The Cubs lost to the Cardinals 6-3, their third loss in a row and 14th in their last 16 games.

That's really all there is to say about last night's defeat, one of the dullest, most one-sided games of the season. But you are all owed a recap, so let me give it a shot.

In the seven-game losing streak from July 27-August 3, the Cubs had a lead for only the first six innings of the first game.

In the four-game losing streak from August 6-9 that followed the single victory that broke the streak above, the Cubs did not have a lead at all until the last game of the series, when they led 2-0 in the first inning and 3-2 in the sixth before losing in 11.

In the current three-game losing streak, the Cubs have had a lead in every game, including scoring first-inning runs in the last two and having a lead as late as the seventh inning of the first of the three defeats.

What does this mean? Honestly, I don't have the slightest idea. And probably, neither does Lou Piniella.

Star-divide

One thing I do know -- and I know some of you will disagree -- is that Thomas Diamond is not a major league pitcher. He's here because Randy Bush was his college coach and under the current circumstances, they can give him a shot because the team is out of the race. But really, Diamond is a thinner version of Ruben Quevedo. He's Joey Nation. He's Phil Norton. He's Jae Kuk Ryu. He's Juan Mateo. All of those guys were at one time or another presented to Cubs fans as prospects, some better than others -- but none of them made it. Diamond isn't going to make it, either -- not as a starter or reliever. He doesn't have good command and his velocity isn't top-notch.

What the Cubs really need to do, if they are serious about giving people a chance in this lost season to show them what they can do in future years, is get Jeff Samardzija to Chicago and slot him in the rotation. Now, not after Iowa's season is over (because Iowa is headed to the PCL playoffs and might be playing until mid-September). Since July 6, in seven starts, Shark has a 3.00 ERA and 36 strikeouts in 39 innings. Let him pitch in games that matter in pennant races -- see what he can do.

He can't be any worse than Diamond, who has a 2.077 WHIP and an 8.31 ERA.

I'll close with a couple of positive notes: Derrek Lee homered in his return from the bereavement list. It was only his third HR in 42 games since June 18.

And Starlin Castro had another hit; he's now hitting .400 in his last 10 games and his season average of .319 would rank third in the NL if he had enough plate appearances to qualify. He has 343 PA and would need 360 to qualify as of today. Since a player needs 3.1 PA per scheduled game (502 for a 162-game season) and Castro has averaged 4.6 PA in his last ten games, if he keeps up that pace he would have the required number of PA in game #127, which will be August 24 at Washington (barring rainouts).

The Cubs are 20 games under .500 for the first time since the last day of the 2006 season, when they finished 30 games under. At the current pace, they're heading that way. Today's afternoon game preview will be up at 1:30 pm CDT.

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Why not give Bibens-Dirkx a shot?

If they still need another 5th starter and they don’t want to call shark up, give the guy with the funny name a shot. Nothing to lose at this point and he has been pitching very well at Iowa.
I assume they could easily take Diamond off the 40 man roster and add Bibens-Dirkx , unless someone is afraid of losing Diamond.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 7:37 AM CDT reply actions  

In that case we'd at least have...

… the amusement value of Ron Santo trying to pronounce his name.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh for that I would want to bring up Rebel Riding

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about bringing up Joe Btfsplk?

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Aug 14, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I misss Ronnie.

He hasn’t been on lately. I turned the radio on yesterday hoping for some amusement, but no. Hope he’s well.

I think Dave Otto is getting better though.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Aug 14, 2010 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes the tandem

of Pat and Dave is NOTHING compared to Pat and Ron…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 14, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Ron is doing many more road trips.

Maybe only the one to Milwaukee in September.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

IIRC, he'll be done with all road trips within the very near future.

Everyone's thought process with this team is that the playoffs start now. Tomorrow is going to be Day One of our run to October.

-- Marlon Byrd

by Ryno Runner on Aug 14, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Better than Judd and Dave

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 14, 2010 10:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't mind him as much as the majority of you guys do.

Todd Hollandsworth; "So, Starlin, do you like hitting in the two-hole?"
Starlin Castro; "Yeah, I hit second."

The Face of the Chicago Cubs.

by Ryno Runner on Aug 14, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

To each his/her own

But seriously, Judd’s awful at baseball announcing.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

He does not make me want to listen to a game.

He makes me want to turn the game off until Pat Hughes comes back on.

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 14, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Santo has that effect on me

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 14, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still think you are giving Sirott too much crap

He doesn’t have a lot of baseball experience. Tribco wanted an inexpensive announcer who was to do one inning per game. (Plus, other work) This, because of the Santo situation. Santo cannot do PBP. This will continue until Santo steps down.

This is a very unique situation. Let it be, stop bashing Sirott. Bash WGN/Tribco for hiring somebody who might not have been ready. They were lucky in their past hires for this unique gig.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 14, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, WGN/Trib is at fault.

That doesn’t make him any easier to listen to. And it has nothing to do with being “ready”. Sirott will never be “ready” to do baseball. He’s a hockey announcer.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

send him back to AAA

he is just a AAAA announcer - If Pat Hughes is the Albert Pujols of announcing then Judd Sirot is 2009 Aaron Miles…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 15, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sirott would be in Low-A.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really understand why you would do that

Diamond (27):

AAA 108 IP, 3.16 ERA, 3.69 FIP, 8.64 K/9, 3.82 BB/9

Bibens-Dirx (25):
AAA 32 IP, 1.97 ERA, 4.17 FIP, 6.19 K/9, 3.02 BB/9
AA 85 IP, 3.27 ERA, 3.54 FIP, 7.17 K/9, 2.85 BB/9

Add in that Diamond has better pedigree and probably better stuff. There is no reason not to give Bibens-Dirx a shot, but there is no reason to expect the results to be any different.

I think Diamond deserves 2 more starts. If he fails put him in the bullpen for the rest of the season. I doubt he figures into the rotation next year, but in this lost season the Cubs might as well exercise a little patience and not release him based on 2 bad outings. Way too early to say definitively that he isn’t a major league pitcher. He may not be, but you are expecting way too much if you think every major league pitcher is excellent from the start. Hell, Brian Matusz is a Top 5 in baseball pitching prospect and his numbers this year are fairly pedestrian (5.03 ERA, 4.30 FIP, 7.00 K/9, 3.51 BB/9). I am not saying Diamond is as good a prospect as Matusz, but let’s use a little larger sample size before making a judgment.

by JSB on Aug 14, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Diamond has been craptastic his last two starts

Might as well give someone else a shot.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You want to give someone else a shot, fine

But no reason to junk Diamond after two bad starts against excellent teams.

by JSB on Aug 14, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

same old story

maybe lou should call it a season and stay home with his mom the way this team is playing.anyone notice how good the orioles are playing since they made a change.this is what hendry does not understand.it might have helped.too late now.

by NOMAR on Aug 14, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

RENDON NODNER RENDON NODNER

Blake DeWitt is hitting .316 since becoming a Cub

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 14, 2010 7:56 AM CDT reply actions  

but he sucks

why in the world did we ever try to get him…why couldnt Jimbo get their #1 prospect for rent-a-Lilly and Tootblan? Seriously, we need to simply DFA DeWitt and get it over with…cough…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 14, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't either, I'm not his biggest fan

But he’s here and he’s not god awful. He’s just not an actual imrpovement over fontenot and I didn’t really see the point in acquiring him

by HuskerCorner on Aug 14, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only DFA talk I have seen lately is for Wells

Plenty of people think DeWitt sucks and shouldn’t be relied upon.

by JSB on Aug 14, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok so the DFA was over the top

but many people have crowned DeWitt as the next one to rag on until he is no longer a Cub…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 15, 2010 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where's Minor League wrap?

Looking forward to this more and more….

Agree w./ Nomar a managerial change was worth trying, but out of respect for Pinella and to let him go out with dignity, they didn’t take that route. Might not have worked but couldn’t have been worse. Diamond deserves one more start to show something.

by QuincyCub on Aug 14, 2010 7:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Where's Minor League wrap?

Oh, isn’t this it?

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Aug 14, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch. Lol.

Everyone's thought process with this team is that the playoffs start now. Tomorrow is going to be Day One of our run to October.

-- Marlon Byrd

by Ryno Runner on Aug 14, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

ISWYDT

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 14, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is my version

TN & Iowa won easily. Rusin & Bibens-Dirkx pitched very well. ( I am curious about Rusin who seems to be doing well but is never mentioned) Peoria & Daytona were rained out. More details from Josh.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Josh tweeted this last night...
Hotel I’m in WiFi not working. Will try to do wrap tomorrow. Smokies win, PEO rained out.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Everyone's thought process with this team is that the playoffs start now. Tomorrow is going to be Day One of our run to October.

-- Marlon Byrd

by Ryno Runner on Aug 14, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

What does this mean?

It means they stink.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Aug 14, 2010 7:59 AM CDT reply actions  

That was gonna be my response

actually I was going to say it means they can lose games where they have a lead, lose games when they don’t have a lead and lose games after they come back from a deficit to either tie or take the lead. This is the hallmark of a really bad baseball team.

by azjazzman on Aug 14, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

The "always losing" thing?

You’re not gonna stir up much controversy by taking that stand.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Aug 14, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're talking about the Diamondbacks, right?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 14, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's to hoping

that they continue the youth trend for the rest of the year and see what some of our AAA high level AA guys have. September came a little early this year. If nothing else I dont think next year will suck nearly as bad as this year has and hopefully Jimbo can shed some salary this offseason. This team does look promising down the road, granted the rotation is shaky and the bullpen is always a question (is it ever not a question on a team?) but we do have ALOT of young guys that show potential and hopefully next year is a REALLY young team.

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by hansman1982 on Aug 14, 2010 8:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope as well

But my gut tells me that we have eaten the icing off this cupcake already. Samardzija possibly being the only exception.

No expertise in the minor league system here. Just know we have seen a bunch of them and I know we are not that deep. Nobody is.

There goes one over the fence...a Tru-Link fence.

by truelinkfence on Aug 14, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Normally, I try to watch every inning when we play the Cardinals.

I’m going to do my best to not watch a single inning this weekend. Being unable to step up against St. Louis is just to hard to take.

by elgato on Aug 14, 2010 8:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Draft!

If we keep losing, our draft pick gets better…

by cj100683 on Aug 14, 2010 8:22 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Again, MLB draft positioning doesn't mean that much.

They should not tank games for that reason.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know...

I’m just trying to find a bright spot! Isn’t that catcher — Bryce Harper eligible this year?

by cj100683 on Aug 14, 2010 8:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Harper was already drafted by the Nats in June.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

So that would mean no.

Everyone's thought process with this team is that the playoffs start now. Tomorrow is going to be Day One of our run to October.

-- Marlon Byrd

by Ryno Runner on Aug 14, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really excited for the Bears Preseason Game tonight.

Yay for getting to see the new offense with Cutler for all of 2 series tonight!

Todd Hollandsworth; "So, Starlin, do you like hitting in the two-hole?"
Starlin Castro; "Yeah, I hit second."

The Face of the Chicago Cubs.

by Ryno Runner on Aug 14, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its not the heat, Its the humility

Looked like the Cards fans fell asleep during this one as well (mid game). Weird to see the Cubs not field their best team during a Cubs Cards series (knowing full well we have “injured” players).

Oh yeah. Agree on spellcheck. If not now..when?

There goes one over the fence...a Tru-Link fence.

by truelinkfence on Aug 14, 2010 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Two runs in the first were nice, but it was painfully obvious that two runs wouldn't be nearly enough to win.

And it seemed so quiet there. Very little background noise. I’ve never been there. Is there something about the ballpark that deadens sound? Or was it just me watching the inevitable happen again, my brain deadened by the hopelessness?

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Aug 14, 2010 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Been there a few times

and its quite loud. It was either the heat or the fact that the fans would have rather bought tickets to some other “premium” date / team.

STL area: 99 degrees today. Heat index of about 110. Storm will probably blow up due to the humidity. Been brutal this summer.

There goes one over the fence...a Tru-Link fence.

by truelinkfence on Aug 14, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

It looks like the plan

is to bring up the AAA players who are marginal at best. With he exception of Adduci, all the guys on the 40 man squad are at Iowa. It does seem to show that Sandberg has a bunch of over the hill players that are essentially playing out their careers.

The entire list of rookie pitchers we’ve seen thus far have been terrible and they don’t belong on a major league squad. There is no way I want to see Shark or any other prospect hurler brought into this excuse for a baseball team. It’s clear that the entire coaching staff on the Cubs have done almost nothing to improve the team. But the worst paro of it is that we’re essentially looking at the 2011 Cubs. I can’t wait to hear the rationalizations at the Cubs convention.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Aug 14, 2010 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Shark

will get called up. Book it.

But, I agree: Thom Diamond: Bad. Justin Berg: Bad. Randy Wells: Garbage. Russell: still not ready.

The starting staff for 2011 is very bleak in its current situation.

Plus, I mean what did Hendry expect with three rookies in the bullpen? Plus Grabow?!

by The E-Man on Aug 14, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, jeez.

Randy Wells isn’t garbage. Sophomore slump? Maybe nothing more than a No. 5 starter? Sure.

But garbage? Don’t be ridiculous.

by elgato on Aug 14, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!

You and I agree again. Wells is a useful part of the rotation. He was very good last year, and has had good stretches this year. With a better team behind him, he’ll be better.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Writing off Wells now ...

would have been like writing off Geo a year ago. And that would have been stupid.

There’s a lot of dead weight on the roster, but let’s not lay waste to the entire roster. Given Wells’ price tag and success in 2009, it’s worth it to give him another shot.

by elgato on Aug 14, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

YES

Of all the memes on this site right now, the Randy Wells = garbage, DFA etc. are the dumbest. There is no reason to put a cost-controlled player with some success on the scrap-heap. Not to mention the fact that the advanced stats indicate that a lot of his regression this year is bad luck.

by JSB on Aug 14, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Today's TRAGIC NUMBER stands at 29.

(Number of Cubs losses and WC leader wins needed to eliminate the Cubs from the Wild Card.)

Git ’er dun, Jimbo!

Sigh. Man, we all deserved better than this for our devotion to this team…

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Aug 14, 2010 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I wasn't too optimistic

about this season in the spring, but I never dreamed this team would be as horrible as it has ended up being. I figured they would hang around .500. Now I think they have a legitimate shot at losing 100 games. I hope management figures something out for next year.

It also appears that we have a lot of mediocre to poor pitching in the organization. Of the million different guys who have been up this season, Russell and Cashner are the only one who give me any hope, and I think Cashner still has a long way to go. I know there are better arms waiting down in AA, but the guys they have rotated in this season have been brutal.

by qccub on Aug 14, 2010 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Your first sentence sums it up for me....

…and probably a lot of fans out there.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blew off the game last night to play Madden 2011 with my buddies...

Looks like I made the right choice.

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 14, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Blame me

My first year as a season ticket holder. I’m the new curse.

by Curt Myers on Aug 14, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

At least it wasn't a one-run loss.

Everyone's thought process with this team is that the playoffs start now. Tomorrow is going to be Day One of our run to October.

-- Marlon Byrd

by Ryno Runner on Aug 14, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

"What does this means?"

It means that due to all the close games early in the season due to the players’ inability to hit in the clutch, the recent rookie callups and Lou’s excessive use of bullpen matchups early on (again, due to the closeness of games), our bullpen is full of good but tired and mediocre but rested arms. In other words, the bullpen was burnt out early.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 14, 2010 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh, stop.

McGehee didn’t have a spot with the Cubs. We’ve beaten that to death. Let’s see how his career pans out, OK? If he has a good career, great. Good for the Brewers. They got lucky. You think the Cubs are the only team that doesn’t have room for a player — who does not impress — but blossoms later?

Nobody — NOBODY thought McGehee was going to amount to anything.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 14, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is 100% not true.

I have heard that many in the organization were quite unhappy that McGehee was let go for nothing. Maybe he had no spot, but the Cubs could probably have traded him for something.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

This may be 20/20 retrospective, but it sure looks like he could have had a spot

Since early in the 2009 season, much of Hendry’s efforts to fill holes have been aimed at backup IF, including 3B. For all of Baker’s alleged flexibility, I’m not sure McGehee couldn’t have done what he has with a better bat.

by ClarkFan on Aug 14, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just like spring training 'cept not in Mesa and more painful to watch

"I knew there had to be a place where the game could be fun again. I found that place. It's called Wrigley Field. It reminded that if you love the game, it will love you back." - Andre Dawson, HOF speech 7/25/10

by JFCubFan on Aug 14, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Cubs actually played fairly well in spring training this year.

Thus again proving that team records in spring training are not predictive of the regular season.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did a great job building fan expectations, they did, back in March

"I knew there had to be a place where the game could be fun again. I found that place. It's called Wrigley Field. It reminded that if you love the game, it will love you back." - Andre Dawson, HOF speech 7/25/10

by JFCubFan on Aug 14, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears first preseason game is tonight!

BEAR DOWN!!!

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 14, 2010 10:53 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Oh and

LWDYWMTD?

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 14, 2010 10:53 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm just sad.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2010 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

It cracks me up that Soriano talked about

people needing to hit more (in order to win), but what does he do?

If he goes 1-for-5, it is a good day for him. Maybe he could go all Matt Holiday on the opposition, since they both are making about the same amount of money per year.

I just love .250 hitters who make $18 million a year!

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 14, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

If anybody should've sat last nite, it was him, career 2-15 vs. Westbrook

But I doubt Lou even looks at that stuff and benches Colvin. Dumb. Diamond isn’t a major league pitcher, he’s proven that, time for the next guy in line.

"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"

by Itchy on Aug 14, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou's already admitted he doesn't look at that.

Remember? He didn’t even know Theriot hadn’t walked for a month.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not I.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Not last year, that’s for sure.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, good!

The fact remains that others have been. And it baffles me

by HuskerCorner on Aug 14, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I trust I am not on that list

Just kidding.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jessica was.

;-)

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 14, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

When did he admit he never looks at stats? Don’t make stuff up.

by JSB on Aug 14, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

2-15?

That’s a really tiny sample size man. Proves almost nothing. Try again.

by JSB on Aug 14, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm getting less happy as the year goes along

At this point, the overall OK results are comprised of two great months (OPS of .900 in April and 1.003 in May) followed by steady decline (.778 in June, .721. in July and .600 so far in August). If he isn’t hurt, and there is no sign of that this year, that is a nasty slide. On the present glide path, he ends up hitting .240 with an OBP of around .300 for the season – pretty pathetic for $18M….

by ClarkFan on Aug 14, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

+$136 million

Soriano hasn’t been the biggest problem this year — heck, he might not be in the top five. But he’s not that good of a baseball player.

by elgato on Aug 14, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don' think anybody was implying that he is the problem this year

We were just talking about Soriano’s (by himself, in a vacuum) production not being worth $18 million per year. Far from it IMHO.

I think this indicates one the biggest problems for the Cubs is that they consistently misjudge talent (overvaluing past career stats and projecting continued output) and then hamstringing themselves by giving out huge contracts for excessive amount of years (to guys like Sori, Z and Fukudome, etc.).

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 14, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playing Time

This reminds me of the bad pitching in the 2nd half of the 2006 season. I don’t think they are going to start next season with a rotation like we’re seeing now. Don’t know how they will manage around this though.

No way are they playing these games to win. Colvin has to be in the lineup with players like Soto and Ramirez not able to play.

I’m hoping the players brought up are auditioned enough for the Cubs to draw conclusions. Some of the bullpen callups – we’ve seen enough of them. Spring training isn’t a good time to decide that a minor league player is ready for the majors. First, the offseason signings depend on knowing the promotions and their role. Second, Arizona isn’t a good place to determine whether a player can get on base or pitch in the majors.

by AboutTheCubs on Aug 14, 2010 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Honestly?

I’d rather watch guys like Barney and Castillo suck than Theriot and Koyie Hill. At least it’s more interesting.

by elgato on Aug 14, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

Colvin played 5 days (not games, days) in a row before last night. Nothing wrong with giving the kid a night off.

by JSB on Aug 14, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou is...

… finally doing the outfielder rotation (minus Nady) that we thought he might do when the season started — every OF gets one day off every 4-5 days. It makes a lot of sense.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The most important thing for the Cubs for the rest of the season ...

is whether Carlos Zambrano can have a good finish to the year. Step up, Z.

by elgato on Aug 14, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Again we agree. Either he proves he’s a useful pitcher and the Cubs keep him, or he increases his value and the Cubs can move his contract.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the most important variable going into next season.

We know what the other guys on the roster are capable of — or they’re such minor parts of the team that it doesn’t matter. But Z is the biggest and most expensive variable.

by elgato on Aug 14, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

One other thing...

… would be having Fukudome have a strong finish. Maybe that would make him dealable too.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Veteran managers...

… start veteran players against playoff contenders. It’s not necessarily the right thing to do, but they do it anyway.

Yet another reason for: NO MORE RECYCLED MANAGERS.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't Girardi a recycled manager?

I think recycled managers are fine. It’s the manager in question that makes the difference, Al.

by elgato on Aug 14, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's what I meant.

Should have been clearer. No old-school recycled managers. Better?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Soto might still be out.

Not sure when he will be back. At this point, does it really hurt if Lou tries using Castillo?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 14, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

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