Ted Lilly wins 3rd straight for Dodgers
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 9:26 PM CDT
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PrintTRL threw 6 shut out innings as the Dodgers just barely beat the Braves 2-1. Ted gave up 3 hits, walked two and struck out four while throwing 89 pitches. Pulled for pinch hitter Reed Johnson( who struck out) in the top of the 7th, Ted actually had a hit earlier in the game which nearly doubled his BA to .56. He has now won as many games with the Dodgers in two weeks as he won with the Cubs in over 3 months. Likely to be one of the more sought after pitchers in the FA market this year.
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Well until the end of this season
Probably not next season unless he is back.
Hey I could have done an inning by inning update.
Remember you don’t have to read it.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not...
some of us want to remember the one who got away and is doing well. Amazing what he can accomplish with a little run support.
Just be grateful there aren’t regular updates on Theriot. :) (Although, I’m in the minority of fans who liked him and is not impressed by DeWitt as a replacement)
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain
"the one who got away"
Gimme a break, I like the guy, but come on…
by bilbosbuttons on Aug 14, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that's a little funny to read as a phrase,
When most everyone on the board wanted him traded for awhile now.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 14, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Hardly anyone WANTED him traded
however the feeling was if they found something better than " A’ free agent then it might be better than waiting. I am not convinced they did get better than they would have offering him arb and they sure suck worse without him. Season is dead but I could have lived without the last 3 starts by Diamond.
It will be interesting to see what the Dodgers do. I can’t believe they would be dumb enough not to offer him arbitration and get the draft pick, but you never know.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I think from most reports I read
that the Cubs would not have offered him arbitration. Also, he might not be a type A free agent. I think it was a decent trade and if he really wants to play for the Cubs he can come back after the season.
Yea, not many WANTED him traded. No one didn't want him on our team...
But it was for the betterment of the future. You just want to hold on to him for sentimental reasons. The same as some people want to hold on to Lee.
by bilbosbuttons on Aug 15, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
There is no comparison between Lee & Lilly
Lee has been horrible this year and shows no signs of getting better. Lilly was our 2nd best pitcher and tended to get better. Lilly will likely be a very productive pitcher for years to come. I love the guy but I did not want to hold on to him for sentimental reasons but because he a very good pitcher. Cubs starting rotation is in a shambles. I understand the trade was for financial reasons but I still find it disturbing that high budget team like the Cubs can’t afford to keep him( Yes I know they have a lot of other crappy contracts). Hopefully the pitchers the Cubs got for him will be of some use, but I think holding on and at least getting a draft pick for him would have been better.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Look, it was a classis "we can lose without him" move
And if he had stayed, the Cubs would still be losing. I don’t know if the team did better than a FA/arbitration/draft pick scenario, but Lilly was unlikely to be back in 2011.
I actually suspect Hendry traded him to avoid offering arb
As we know he hates to do that unless the player pretty much agrees and arb will make it harder for Lilly to sign as an FA. I just don’t think they got enough and the team has fallen off a cliff since he left. I still have to watch games, i can’t help myself.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh BS.
Many wanted him traded, and yes to get prospects because they didn’t think we will contend next year. That’s still traded. try again.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 17, 2010 3:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Usually revisionist history
doesn’t start this quickly. I’m impressed.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 17, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It's scary how people view a trade after it's over
and apply the results to their memories of the prelude. That’s how you get some imagining Hendry had in mind Silva would pitch well. What difference does it make if you like the guy you trade…that’s still wanting to trade him, no matter what glasses you view it in.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 17, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Good for him.
I’d take him on my team everyday of the week, he’s just the type of competitor you hope to get. I hope he can get a ring with LA, at least he has a better chance of going into the playoffs now.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 14, 2010 11:24 PM CDT reply actions
LA is toast
They are mathematically much closer than the Cubs but in reality they are done. They are ten games back in the loss column and have to pass 3 teams, However it beats playing for the Cubs right now.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It is VERY bleak
They would have to pass 4 teams for the WC. As a Cub fan I fully support always believing you have a chance but the Dodgers have a very, very, very, very small chance ( and they are currently being crushed by the Braves)
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Bleak as hell.
Even if Ted Lilly pitches every other day, the Dodgers aren’t going anywhere AT ALL. Now, it’s closer by committee. This team’s a mess.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 15, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
They came very, very close to blowing the lead when Lilly left.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't realize that.
Nah, doesn’t beat playing for the Cubs. Unless it somehow improves his value, I don’t see it being any different.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 17, 2010 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions
FYI Braves have the best home record in baseball
and Lilly shut them down. While I am sure he will benefit from games at Dodger Stadium and in other NL West parks, he can win in far less friendly places.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 14, 2010 11:38 PM CDT reply actions
Gee, I can hardly wait....
DeRo-mantics, Therio-mantics, Fonte-nuts and Lilly-lovers. So, that means about a post each day crying about “what could have been.” Yay. How exciting.
People. Get over it. They are gone. Move on.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
by Ross on Aug 15, 2010 2:57 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Amen.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Aug 15, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know there were any Theriot-mantics around here.
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
The TOOTBLAN-O-Meter!
Sounds more interesting than reading about Lilly to me.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 17, 2010 3:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Count me as a Fonte-nut
Lilly was expendable, but they of course should have gotten more for him. Wouldn’t they have received a high-level prospect anyway even if he walked at season’s end?
by Jerry Mumphrey on Aug 15, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I am trying. Really I am.
But if they want me to stop pining, they have to provide me with some better baseball to get my mind off it.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 16, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't like them don't read them.
It was clearly marked that it was about Ted.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I heard Gary Gaetti did a great job mowing his lawn yesterday
Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein
Excellent!
Lou has been looking for some veteran mowers. I smell a franchise. The LWDYWMTD Lawn Service.
I want you to mow, trim and pull those weeds.
There goes one over the fence...a Tru-Link fence.
by truelinkfence on Aug 15, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
What's that Girardi guy doing now?
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 17, 2010 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions
if
the cubs scored runs for him he might have been better than 3-8. good luck teddy.
be my guest
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
yay!
for the record, I don’t mind these threads. I just thought it was a good joke to pull :)
Viva la Cubs Révolution!!!
Gameboard messed up a recap of himself with a bum knee.
Just another example of racism.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 17, 2010 3:41 AM CDT up reply actions
He's stats are nearly identical to what they were here.
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
My guess is...
… the Dodgers will non-tender him at the end of the season.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
You obviously haven't read
Torre’s comments about RT. They are thrilled with what he has added to the Dodgers. Has scored 10 runs in 13 games, which is exactly what the Dodgers were looking for.
Nevertheless...
… he’ll be too expensive for them, as he would have been for the Cubs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He makes less than $3 million
That’s hardly hamstringing a high-payroll team like the Cubs or Dodgers from acquiring anyone.
The Dodgers
are on the verge of being sold in bankruptcy court. The McCourt divorce is ugly, and I think they’d burn a ship around both of themselves to avoid letting the other have the team. They have NO money for anything. (Which is why the Cubs sent them money in the Lilly/Theriot/DeWitt trade.)
There is a Fontenot update thread started...
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain
There once was a man from Nantucket...
…wait, where’s he from again?
by Flatley on Aug 16, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Reed!
I miss him a TON.
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Johnson-aholics
I think Ross forgot that one.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 17, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I predict that the Cubs will offer a contract to Lilly this offseason
just as they would have had he not been traded. The questions remain: will it be the best offer he gets? Is he willing to return here for less than top dollar? Those unanswered questions probably influenced the decision to trade Lilly for a prospect, who presumbably is better and cheaper than a draft pick.
Sorry, this is not worthy of a fanpost.
He’s not on the team anymore; let’s move on.
"That's life, that's what all the people say.
You're riding high in April,
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune,
When I'm back on top, back on top in June."
- Big boy Frankie
Then don't read it since I am likely to keep posting them
However he only starts every 5 plus days.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean I don't really care whether you post these or not.
I just hope you’re not one of those people that complain about other people writing random fanposts. That’s all.
"That's life, that's what all the people say.
You're riding high in April,
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune,
When I'm back on top, back on top in June."
- Big boy Frankie
by lexmarklover on Aug 15, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
Write all the random fan posts you want. I have never complained about one.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I endorse this practice of clinging to the past.
It’s great that we continue to track the progress of people who are no longer part of this team. I feel it’s important for us to focus our attention on things that no longer directly impact our team. If we don’t, we’ll have no choice but to focus on the 2010 Chicago Cubs, which will invariably spur conversation on how to improve the team in the coming years. A special thanks to Doggie Stalker, who continues to press on with her “sour grapes” campaign. Her sojourns into what the 2010 Cubs could have been under her leadership continue to provide a high level of value to this site.
by Flatley on Aug 16, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
When you see the post for the next Lilly start
I suggest you skip it. This is not a sour grapes thread FYI ( though I have plenty of them) this is an appreciation of player I truly loved watching over nearly 4 years. I spend 12 years watching Maddux pitch for the Braves and I watched as many of his starts as I could because I enjoy good baseball. Lilly is no Maddux, but I am going to watch and report on his starts through this season.
As for the many “sour grapes” threads well they certainly are now, but when posted they were more or less delusional pleas for changes ( Lou, Nady A-Ram etc). Not like the Cubs were going to listen to me, but one of the things we do here is express our dismay at how certain players & personal are performing and in our own pathetic way suggesting it is not the best policy. Last time I checked Lou’s lineups and the teams current personal moves still effected the team.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Well argued.
As you say, Lilly’s no Maddux. He performed well for four seasons, poorly for two postseasons, and has been traded for prospects. If he was a player who had given us some history to remember, as Maddux did by being a product of our system, that would be something else. As it stands, he’s just another good ex-Cub who was traded from a poor Cubs team in a contract year. Nothing worth writing home about.
If I wrote home about this
My dad would be so confused. He probably doesn’t even realize it’s still baseball season.
Did she hold a gun to
your head and force you to read this? ………….I didn’t think so.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
As much as you may want this
to be about you it isn’t.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I didn't read it at all.
I’m commenting on a theme that has cropped up, not the content of this particular fanpost. Nice try, though.
She said there
will be more so I guess you will just have to deal with them.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
And she will have to deal with
people commenting on the importance. Sure, anyone can make a fanpost…and any reader can state their opinion about it as well.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 17, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Or they
can just ignore them.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
We shouldn't have to if we don't want to
I don’t want to ignore it. I want to mock it.
Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein
I think that's an overreaction
It would be nice if they were all in one thread, but it’s not that big a deal if people want to follow players on other teams just because they once wore Cub uniforms.
It’s also not that big a deal if some of us poke fun a little.
Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein
by Worf on Aug 18, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it's fun for a while.
But every start for two months? Too much. Once the satires start to take over, which they were starting to do, that’s enough, I think.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Oh damn
I was looking forward to the “Ted Lilly wins 4th straight for Dodgers” fanpost.
"I knew there had to be a place where the game could be fun again. I found that place. It's called Wrigley Field. It reminded that if you love the game, it will love you back." - Andre Dawson, HOF speech 7/25/10
Ted just retired his 19th straight Rocky!
I’m curious — Seeing how the Dodgers seem to be done, is it possible Lilly could be traded again? Has that ever happened before? Where a player was traded at the deadline, than traded through waivers?
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
I don't believe that has happened before.
Since Lilly was dealt before the waiver deadline, I assume he could be waived before 8/31. However, I suspect he’d be claimed by someone. Maybe the Dodgers would deal him. But they have only 11 days.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Kingman in 1977?
Back when the trading deadline was June 15th….traded to the Padres by the Mets.
Then claimed on waivers by the Angels on Sept 6th….then TRADED to the Yankees 9 days later.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 21, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
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