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Derrek Lee Homers Twice; Cubs Nearly Blow Seven-Run Lead, But Win Series From Cardinals

Here's how frustrating this season has been.

The Cubs had a 3-4 road trip against two playoff contenders -- not bad, all things considered. What is bad is that the Cubs had the lead in all seven games at one time or another, and in six of the seven (all except the 6-3 loss to the Cardinals on Friday), they were either tied or ahead in the seventh inning or later. And even Sunday's game made us all a little nervous toward the end, because Carlos Marmol had to come in with the score 9-4 and the bases loaded to finish off today's victory at 9-7, but not before making it way too close for my tastes.

So with a little better RISP hitting, or a little better relief pitching, the Cubs might have won six games on the road trip -- and they would likely have won more games in general this season.

That's why I think this team isn't necessarily out of playoff contention for 2011. Granted, many things have to go right this winter. But all of us have seen how quickly things can turn around for a team that looked destined to go nowhere -- you need look no farther than the South Side of Chicago since June for an example of just such a team.

Am I predicting this? No. It's way too early to make such a prediction. We'll see what happens with the Cubs' abilities to move large contracts like Kosuke Fukudome's and Carlos Zambrano's, which might give them room to add some useful parts. In the meantime, it is always, always, nice to take a series from the Cardinals. The Cubs now lead the season series with St. Louis 5-4, with home-and-home series remaining in September.

Star-divide

Ryan Dempster threw a nice game, lasting into the seventh inning and allowing only five hits and two runs. His only real mistake was deposited into the first row in right-center field by Albert Pujols for Albert's 30th HR of the season. Dempster also slashed an RBI single into right field in the Cubs' six-run third inning and later scored a run on a wild pitch by Mike MacDougal that didn't get too far away; Demp slid just under MacDougal's attempted tag.

In that fourth inning, the first six Cubs reached base and all of them scored. Now how many times this year have we seen anything like that kind of offensive production from Cubs hitters? Included were three singles, a walk and two doubles; one of the doubles was by Koyie Hill which bounced into the seats and just missed being a grand slam.

Derrek Lee, possibly trying to show Jim Hendry that he should be signed on for another year or two (I doubt it, but who knows with a good last two months?), hit two home runs today -- giving him four HR in 11 AB in the series before he had to leave the game with back stiffness. That link also notes:

Cubs manager Lou Piniella announced Sunday that [Thomas] Diamond's turn in the rotation Wednesday was being handed off to Casey Coleman. Diamond struggled in all three starts he has made this season, giving up a total 12 earned runs in 13 innings. He made it through only four innings against the Cardinals on Friday and lasted only three innings against the Reds.

"We are going to make a change," Piniella said. "We are going to pitch Coleman. And Diamond will go to the bullpen and pitch long relief."
So the Cubs will come home tomorrow to play -- for the first time in almost a full calendar year, since last August 19 -- the San Diego Padres, another playoff contender. It doesn't get easier next weekend, with the Braves in town. This is a good test for many of the rookies on the current roster, playing postseason-caliber teams before roster expansion. Let's hope they make it less nervous than today.

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Elsewhere, sadly

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 15, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where was just about everyone on the team?

I’m with you that he’s been particularly bad this year, almost as bad as Rami with no real excuse like an injury. But this is just a bad team. Lee is not even close to the reason they failed. The bullpen besides the M&Ms has always been crap, the whole team never is consistent…but I’m with you it’s a little irritating to see Lee hitting now like Pierre did at the end of the season with us when it was meaningless.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

But if Rami and Lee could have played like this all year

I think this team would be at least .500. You’ve gotta be able to count on your big hitters when everyone else sucks.

by mic on Aug 15, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Lee and Rami are bigger than the rest of the hitters in their importance.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully he doesn't

get hot enough to get re-signed.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Aug 15, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like totally seriouly.

Or… Get red-hot and let someone else break out their checkbook!!! Win-win.

um... no, i will not take a convoy to basrah

by ASpecialGuestAppearance on Aug 16, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

second!

The 2010 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp ruled!!!!

by VegasCubFan on Aug 15, 2010 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

Fast recap!

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 15, 2010 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I almost had to rewrite the whole damn thing...

… if they had blown the lead. Kept having to retype the final score.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that's the biggest reason this team cannot be consistent at this point.

The bullpen. It’s a crapshoot every day whether it will hold together.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, we know one thing.

Marcos Mateo will not be part of the 2011 Cubs.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Lou was gonna have an ulcer watching that last inning.

Diamond is surely not ready either. Problem is, is anyone in the minors besides Cashner gonna step up with our pitchers? I’d love to see someone pleasantly surprise us.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me

but I haven’t been all that impressed with Cashner, either. Seems like, every time I see him on the bump, he gives up runs.

by Cubbiefaithful on Aug 15, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's certainly been erratic at times.

To me it looks like he needs mastery of more pitches than he has, perhaps some sessions with Rothschild with a curve, splitter, etc. can help. He relies on his fastball and when they sit on it, or it’s erratic he gets bombed.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn that was up FAST

"They say the glee team has lured stragglers into sniper traps with cheery renditions of hit songs." "Really? And people fall for that?"

by pygreg on Aug 15, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

TWSS

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 15, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well done

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a fast recap - the game ended three minutes ago!

Love beating the Cards! And a series win to boot!

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 15, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

OK Al where is the OTHER version?

The one where the Cubs blow it in the 9th.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Poof!

Gone into the cyberspace trash can.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dempster

I was surprised to hear he’s a lifetime 0.500 pitcher at 98.

by thermal54 on Aug 15, 2010 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I wonder how many of those Ls came when he was in the bullpen

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Aug 15, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

White Sox bullpen blows 2nd game in a row

this makes me happy. I am not a nice person.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 4:56 PM CDT reply actions  

The Cardinals lost, too!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Aug 15, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean, I really don't care what they do, but

I certainly don’t want to see them win.

I still hate the Cardinals more no matter what

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bet the dogs at home are hiding under the bed.

They are good…least good enough to win this crappy division. I respect them. And will be happy all night we took two.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am happy as well

that we have at least 24 hours of awesome panic-stricken Sox fan meltdown to look forward to on The Score

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brenly

made a funny comment re: St. Louis the town early in the game.

by thermal54 on Aug 15, 2010 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

He took a couple of swipes at the city in the broadcast

He’s probably off the Cards’ list to replace The Mad Hungarian.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Aug 15, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What were the comments?

Living in STL isn’t so bad.
Except for the heat, humidity, Cards fans, the Rams, and no basketball team. But my prop tax is nothing, and the Gov isn’t on trial. So maybe it evens out.

um... no, i will not take a convoy to basrah

by ASpecialGuestAppearance on Aug 16, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm paraphrasing

But this is what I remember.

Len: “Walking in downtown St. Louis, 99% of the people are wearing red or blue. Those are practically the only two colors you see.”
Bob: “Yeah, that and the occasional brown tumbleweed rolling down the street.”

by thermal54 on Aug 16, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeeze

The drought wasn’t that bad. And we just got rain over the weekend.

Maybe he was commenting on the failed Ballpark area shops that just never got built, and are now just holes in the ground around the stadium.

Should have been the occasional Rams fan rolling down the street.

um... no, i will not take a convoy to basrah

by ASpecialGuestAppearance on Aug 16, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is the next series against the Cardinals in September in Chicago or St. Louis?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Sept 13-15 in St. Louis

Sept 24-26 @ Wrigley

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 15, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The next series is in St. Louis.

The one at Wrigley will be the last 3 home games of the season.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, guys.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

The one at Wrigley will be the last 3 home games of the season

home

Fixed

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I was right.

It’s the last three home games. The Cubs have a week in San Diego and Houston after that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh i see what you meant - sorry 'bout that

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Im gonna be at the Saturday game of the Wrigley series

could use 2 tickets for that game if anyone has a spare set…

I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119

by hansman1982 on Aug 15, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man!!!!

I left the sports bar at 8-2 confident of the outcome.
Stupid me.
Thanks to those that watched the ending. I owe you some pepto, tums and tylenol.

by FXDregs on Aug 15, 2010 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

and LOTS of booze and at least one portion of crack,

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greened.

Todd Hollandsworth; "So, Starlin, do you like hitting in the two-hole?"
Starlin Castro; "Yeah, I hit second."

The Face of the Chicago Cubs.

by Ryno Runner on Aug 15, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

AMEN!

it’s all i’ve got!

so stamp your feet and clap your hands

by Ryno72 on Aug 15, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know it!

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

+10000000000000000000000000

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen to that.

Wish I could have seen the Cards press conference afterwards. I bet it lasted 2 minutes.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greened.

Todd Hollandsworth; "So, Starlin, do you like hitting in the two-hole?"
Starlin Castro; "Yeah, I hit second."

The Face of the Chicago Cubs.

by Ryno Runner on Aug 15, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right there with ya brother.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 15, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I nearly was having a heart attack during the 9th, but a [W] is a [W] even when it's ugly.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 15, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Specially against the Cards.

You can bet TLR won’t remember this game at the end of the season and smile they made it close at the end.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that would be something, especially if they miss the WC as well.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 16, 2010 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

What an insane game

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

by Ace Venom on Aug 15, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Good to see Demp get to 11-8.

I always like seeing Dempster being successful. He’s a great teammate and person…hope he’s with us for the rest of his career.

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

+46

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Especially with what he went through last year,

With his daughter’s illness. I hope he stays with the Cubs for the rest of his career too.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Todd Hollandsworth; "So, Starlin, do you like hitting in the two-hole?"
Starlin Castro; "Yeah, I hit second."

The Face of the Chicago Cubs.

by Ryno Runner on Aug 15, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Pretty nice to see a professional out there handling his business.

He’s a great guy and competitor.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon

Becasue he’s a nice guy?

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

No because he's good and a nice guy

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's better

But sign every asshole you can get your hands on if it means a World Series victory. If contracts were paid on personality, Kevin Millar would be a billionaire.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sign every good player you can -- nice guy or ass hole...

but asses cause team chemistry issues though which can result in disasters

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh my

Success fosters chemistry, not the other way around. Shitty players that get along great will not win a World Series. \

Good Lord.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah - remember the early -70s As?

Fistfights in the clubhouse followed by drubbing the opposing teams, followed by World Series wins. I’d take that bad chemistry.

by ClarkFan on Aug 15, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only had to go back 40 years for a good example

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Problem is though.... where is Hendry going to get all this money

to sign these ass holes you so desire?

Wait til 2012….2011 might be another dud

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I completely agree with you there

This team’s going nowhere until these bad contracts work their way off the books. THEN the job of whomever is the GM at the point begins – scout and sign good players without a blank checkbook and all you can eat NTCs

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also the whole point of what I said

was to point out that he is successful and a good dude. Start another argument on this topic on another thread. You blew this way out of proportion

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 11:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

But it doesn't
But sign every asshole you can get your hands on if it means a World Series victory.

There is no World Series guarantee. No short cuts. Just work hard and develop better players.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Aug 16, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Nice guys and assholes alike. Just sign good, hardworking players.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then why did you make the point of signing ass holes?

Dempster is 11-8. Having a good year. I just added to that fact that he is a good dude.

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 17, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never understood these rants about nice guys.

Obviously it isn’t the only reason to sign him, but if he’s good, a good teammate and competitor, good player…why do people worry if it makes you enjoy it more knowing he’s a nice guy?

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like nice guys

But not if they suck. Clearly, Dempster doesn’t – right now. But if he does start to suck regularly, I don’t want him on the Cubs for the rest of his career just because he does a good Harry Caray impression.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get the point of bringing this up.

He doesn’t suck, and yes if he’s bad you need to trade him. What’s the problem here…being a good guy is something wrong?

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well the initial post said he hoped Dempster was with the team

For the rest of his career. It was implied he came to this conclusion because he’s a nice guy. I think that’s the issue.

by shoemile on Aug 15, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

Reading is a skill; comprehension can’t be taught.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You just like insulting don't you?

He said he was successful, not just “nice”. there’s no talking to someone who resorts to insults rather than simply stating a point.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I admire you for sticking up for mikegncb34

You’re a good pal.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

and you are not worth discussing this with.

I could care less how you took something.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

COULDN'T care less

Boy, you ARE the evil twin.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Run along,

The adults are talking here.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well work on your comprehension then

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 11:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Be more clear, then

I wasn’t the only one who took what you said the way I took it.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski

by lostinthevines on Aug 16, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You kinda took my comment in a complete different direction

and it really wasn’t necessary.

No offense.

I see your argument, but still…

A-well-a Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well the Byrd is the word.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 15, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Title suggestion for the next series against the Cardinals:


Cardinals Without a Prayer Against Cubs.

 
 

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 15, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Has there been anything said on Castro maybe playing winter ball? His defense is nerve racking, to say the least.

He’ll make the highlight reel plays, but just plain botch grounders right at him…like that DP ball in the 9th. Lou looked like he wanted to strangle him…or maybe he just woke up grumpy.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Aug 15, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting...

I’ll have to look this up myself, but does anybody know off hand whether he’s played winter ball in the past?

Lou gave the same treatment to A-Rod, worked out pretty well for him.

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Just North of Wrigley Field

by jameslcrockett on Aug 15, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

The ninth inning today.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather he didn't

A player’s first season in the majors is very loooooooong…….

I’d rather see him rest up, add 10 pounds (see Colvin, Tyler), and be ready for ST 2011.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 15, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a Soto 10lbs?

um... no, i will not take a convoy to basrah

by ASpecialGuestAppearance on Aug 16, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I said "10 pounds", not "50 pounds"!

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice win...

Interesting that the Cardinals gave Pujols the rest of the day off in a blow out and he would have came up in a really key spot in the ninth inning had they not done a typically-stupid NL double switch. I know hindsight’s 20/20, but they should have known better since they were facing the Cubs… anything is possible.

Can’t really see what moving (and eating a bunch of) Dome and Zambrano’s contracts are supposed to do. Unless it dramatically improves clubhouse chemistry, they’re better off playing them unless they have significantly better options on the roster. This is supposed to be one of the worst free agent classes ever. Hendry (assuming he keeps his job) is going to have to do his magic through trade, or the Cubs will end up with more Milton Bradley-type overpays for mediocre talents.

Most of the Cubs value will come from Randy Wells taking another step into being a solid #2 starter (or better) and Dempster returning to at least 2009 numbers (I’m not saying he hasn’t performed well, but certainly not at ace-level, while getting paid at ace-level. He needs to keep his walks down and keep the ball in the park.), fixing the god-awful bullpen (and there are some decent free-agent options out there, unfortunately most are “closers” and the Cubs are “set” there) and getting full, productive seasons out of Tyler Colvin and Starlin Castro, while Byrd and Soto don’t significantly regress.

The bright side is they play in the NL Central, where most teams will be even worse off this winter.

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by jameslcrockett on Aug 15, 2010 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, in the ninth inning,

I was thinking “Oh great, Pujols is up.” Then I remembered that he had been substituted out in the eighth inning.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who ever gets the nod to be

the next manager has to fix the pen. Today was yet another example of it’s failure to step up . If 2011 is to be a success get it fixed !! Cardinals take their heavy hitters out and Lou again wants to venture out onto untested waters .

by cubs north on Aug 15, 2010 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm very surprised he took Marshall out.

Anyone have insight into this?

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marshall did pitch Saturday also

6 run lead in the 8th inning. Not a bad time to have other guys pitch.

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by RiskyBusiness on Aug 15, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

No but Mateo should have been pulled after the 2nd straight guy got on.

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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Gotta rely on the rest of your pen at some point. Marmol had pitched 1 2/3 innings last night and Lou didn’t want to use him. There’s not much else you can do but try your other guys, specially since we need to see what these rookies can do.

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a Pen Conspiracy

Blow big lead to provide Marmol save opportunities.

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by RiskyBusiness on Aug 15, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

God knows he doesn't get any.

Todd Hollandsworth; "So, Starlin, do you like hitting in the two-hole?"
Starlin Castro; "Yeah, I hit second."

The Face of the Chicago Cubs.

by Ryno Runner on Aug 15, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The end of this game

makes me glad that my kid talked me into play Wii with her. Much easier to see the win without having to watch the 9th inning scare.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Aug 15, 2010 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Glad to see Demps get the win

Was anyone else hoping to see a Lilly redux (this time ending in our favor, of course) when Dempster headed home on the wild pitch?

More and more, I am liking the C + C Hitting Factory at the top of the order and the M&Ms on the hill at the end of the game

by Cubbiefaithful on Aug 15, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree that it would

be silly to write off 2011 before the off-season even starts. Things don’t look great, but you can’t write off a team until you know who’s on it.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Aug 15, 2010 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Now, you & I don't often agree...

… but you are exactly correct.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

nonsense

you are full of baloney – the 2011 team will be lucky to win 40 games, and that would require everyone to have career years because everyone on the team sucks because Hendry is GM…and they will have Sandberg be manager just so we suck even worse because Sandberg has no major league experience so we need to hire a retread from another team that is about to retire because the has worked in the past…cough…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 15, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot the sarcasm sign again.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

dangit

they really need a button for that…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 16, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!!!!! We are going to win next year!

Right after we complete our victory dance this year!

Jim Hendry is amazing!

by TJ11 on Aug 16, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Next year?

Have you given up TJ?

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's our TJ

Sorry I doubted you for a minute.

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al, as someone who...

sits in the bleachers every day, how full do you expect them to be tomorrow night? I’m going, and I’m trying to figure out what time to get there to get decent seats. I haven’t been paying much attention lately so I’m not sure if bleachers are still selling well or if attendance is way down.

by kanderber on Aug 15, 2010 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Even if the bleachers are sold out tomorrow...

… which they probably won’t be, people tend to arrive late for night games due to work, traffic, etc.

My guess is that if you got there by 6 you could pretty much have your choice of seat. Even 6:30, it probably won’t be too full.

Stop by and say hi.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just for fun I went to buy a ticket for tomorrows game

And they are indeed available. $79.95 for a seat in section 318.

BTW, what is ‘amusement tax’? (12%) Another Daley tax trick?

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by JFCubFan on Aug 15, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are great seats...

available. I pulled up a pair right behind the Cubs dugout on their site. Everything is under face on the secondary market though, so just buy there if you go.

Btw, thanks Al.

by kanderber on Aug 15, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh hey,

Did you ever get an answer to your question regarding seating sections, 237 as opposed to 237-1?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so...

those were for DMB tix, but I wound up getting even better seats in 420 for the same cost. Do you know though? It’d be good to know in general.

by kanderber on Aug 15, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

One side of the Aisle vs. the other

At Wrigley, a “section” usually span across the aisle. So the whole section is 237. And on StubHub, one side maybe 237-1 and the other side of the aisle would be listed at 237-2.

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by RiskyBusiness on Aug 15, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

318??

Where is that located?

on the 12% tax, I’m not sure who gets it all. It is probably a break down between State, County, and City though.

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by RiskyBusiness on Aug 15, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

318 = Family Section

I think that should be a no beer section in the right field corner. Just a warning.

If you want regular Bleacher seats, they will be less. And if you check stubhub, possibly less still.

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by RiskyBusiness on Aug 15, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, it's not the family section.

Those are “bleacher boxes”.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I was at Wrigley a few weeks ago,

The bleachers were mostly full, but that may not be the case tomorrow. When I went, the Cubs were playing several high-profile opponents (Philadelphia and St. Louis), so the bleachers were almost full.

Have a great time at the game tomorrow!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will, thanks!

I’ve been to 6 or 7 games this year, but only in the bleachers once. So it’ll be good to get back out there. Hopefully see a W too!

by kanderber on Aug 15, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

My first game in the bleachers was four weeks ago.

I had a great time there. Best place to see a ballgame IMO.

Don’t know when I’ll get back out to the bleachers at Wrigley. Maybe in June next year (Yankees series at Wrigley).

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hi guys, I have some shocking news for you!

Ryan Theriot did something very rare for him today — he committed a TOOTBLAN. Can you believe it???

He tried to go 1st to 3rd on a single to CF…

against Rick Ankiel…

with his team trailing 8-0.

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by DeRoMyHero on Aug 15, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Lmao. I sure miss that guy.

Todd Hollandsworth; "So, Starlin, do you like hitting in the two-hole?"
Starlin Castro; "Yeah, I hit second."

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by Ryno Runner on Aug 15, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did do several rare things today.

He walked and he successfully sacrificed a runner from 2nd to 3rd. Clearly the California air agrees with him.

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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should make a fanpost...

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 15, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have...

…but there didn’t seem to be any reason to use 75 words to describe a baserunning blunder when TOOTBLAN is just as descriptive. :-)

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by DeRoMyHero on Aug 15, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If a strong August and September in a lost season ...

prompt Hendry to re-sign Derrek Lee, there’s no chance the Cubs sniff the playoffs next year.

Beyond the fact that Lee is aging and has had an awful season, sometimes you need to wipe the slate clean when things don’t work. And given all the players on long-term deals and young guys who will be back, first base is one spot where getting new blood is possible.

I know Lee has given good years to this team. But re-signing him for next season seems about the same as if the Cubs had re-signed Juan Pierre after 2006.

by elgato on Aug 15, 2010 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey no problems here.

I think you have to say those are two entirely different players for the Cubs overall, but this year has gone similarly to Pierre when he was here. Having said that, one year doesn’t mean Lee will continue to fail, but it has to lower his salary a lot with whoever he signs with, and make you realize it is possible he won’t return to his career average again.. He seems to be heading downwards.

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

It has more to do with making changes versus standing pat ...

after a terrible season. Bringing back this nucleus just seems stupid, and 1st base is one of the few places where a big change can be made.

Now, would I feel that way if Lee had played well this year? Probably not. But if he’d played well this year, I don’t think changing the nucleus would be so important, because (in that situation) the Cubs wouldn’t be 19 games under.

by elgato on Aug 16, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, either way,

I have to agree with you. It does seem foolish to keep the same team nucleus and expect different results after two years of failure. The problem is deciding if you can get rid of salaries with a trade and it will be hard to do other than Lee.

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

People this is NOT going to happen

Frankly there is bad blood between the Cubs and Lee. They were really pissed he would not accept a trade. They have no reason to keep him. Like I said earlier if he wants to show up as non roster invitee or maybe a non-guaranteed contract then he can come to Mesa, but that is not happening.

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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was responding to Al's comments.

I agree that Lee likely won’t be back. But I’d like to know how you have such a good read on the Cubs’ reaction to his declining to be traded.

by elgato on Aug 15, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do you know this?

I’d like to see proof of it.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually I do know the Cubs were upset that he turned down the deal

that comes from a friend on the inside but should not be much of a surprise.

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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jessica is correct.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not that much of a surprise.

But I doubt the fact that he rejected the trade is the prime reason he won’t be back. His terrible season, the Cubs’ budget and the fact that Lee can be replaced by a left-handed power bat all seem like more significant reasons.

by elgato on Aug 15, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The front office put in the work to trade Lee and he rejected it. I doubt they enjoyed seeing their effort was a waste of time.

by shoemile on Aug 15, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was wondering about that.

Wouldn’t Hendry have checked with Lee before he started talks with the Angels (or any other team)?

Frankly, I think Lee figured he’d have more playing time in Chicago than in Anaheim in the final months of this season. That way, he put himself in the best position to make himself more marketable in the offseason.

by elgato on Aug 15, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a good point

It’s possible what you’re saying is true, and that’s the reason he rejected the trade, which would lend credence to the idea that Lee told Jim he was open to a trade, and then changed his mind.

by shoemile on Aug 15, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee had every right to reject a trade.

But doing so sure doesn’t say anything good about him. And before anybody cites his grandfather’s illness, please note that his grandfather lives in Sacramento, not in Chicago.

by elgato on Aug 15, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of possible reasons

But personally, I’m not willing to villify him without knowing why.

by shoemile on Aug 15, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that's fair.

But as someone who wants this team to get a root canal ASAP, I would have been very happy to see him go.

by elgato on Aug 16, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be better

to say just what you did here then…they were pissed he turned down the deal. You have no idea what exactly is in Hendry’s mind about signing him exactly now, much less what his opinion would be over the winter. Absolutes always make me sad to read, but it’s a blog so I guess I should expect it.

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty cheap "save'

Not too many pitchers can give up 3 runs (none charged to him of course) and get a save, but under the rules he could have given up 4 to make it 9-8 and still gotten the save.

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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 6:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Derrek snags Lopez' ground ball through the hole, thus saving two runs.

Todd Hollandsworth; "So, Starlin, do you like hitting in the two-hole?"
Starlin Castro; "Yeah, I hit second."

The Face of the Chicago Cubs.

by Ryno Runner on Aug 15, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're going to have the same team next year

except for Derrek Lee (who really has been unlucky and probably a cheaper option)

will have the same outfield as this year
will have the same injured plagued wrong side of thirty third baseman
will still have a mediocre second baseman
will still have the close to same rotation except maybe a couple slots
will still have Grabow

But at least will have Castro and Colvin. And really it’s better to wait till 2012, sorry people of course the Cubs could get lucky and compete but in the long run it’s better for the franchise. Short sighted thinking will get us nowhere. Sure it will hurt the fan base but in the long run it’s better. It’s okay to not compete next year and in all likelihood we won’t but that’s all right because a core of Castro, Colvin, and Soto is really a good starting point and we have some good people coming through the system. It would be a lot better if Cub fans realized we won’t compete in 2011. Oh wait, Jim Hendry’s the GM so will be stuck with Adam Dunn for 5 years.

by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 15, 2010 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you think Dome will be back?

If Colvin is the Opening Day RF and Sori can stay reasonably healthy, then the OF is not my greatest concern. If Dome returns and steals more ABs from Colvin, I will not be happy.

Of course, if they trade Dome for Oliver Pérez, I will be really, totally not happy.

And that doesn’t even begin to address the bullpen issues…

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by DeRoMyHero on Aug 15, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

75% disagree

This team could easily compete next year.

DeWitt has the ability to be a very good second baseman. Not Sandberg, but above league average.
An outfield of Byrd, Colvin and Soriano is at least league average, if not better.
The starters have been largely effective.
Our rookie relievers will have a year of experience under their belts – that could make a difference in whether or not Grabow ever sees the hill.

Yes, the Cubs will still have Ramirez, but is there anyone you would rather have who is available?

I’m not expecting much, and I agree that Adam Dunn is not a viable solution, but I am not punting 2011 just yet.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on Aug 15, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will give Hill this

he has been hitting really well since Soto went down and he has been playing every day. I realize that he isn’t ever going to be a good hitter, but he has hit well while he has been starting recently.

by qccub on Aug 15, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think im the reason for that

i called lou an idiot for using hill or castillo and he starts hitting, right after i called lou an idiot for using dome in the 3 spot

lous an idiot for using rami in the 4 spot and soriano in the 6 spot

by jesus christos on Aug 16, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course this team could compete but I'll look at it a different view

Byrd, Soriano all a year older and Byrd having a career year
Silva sucks, Dempster a year older, Gorzelanny can’t get past the fifth inning, Zambrano, and Randy Wells is mediocre
Russell has a negative WAR, coleman was never a top prospect
Ramierez is a 32 year old declining third baseman

Again I love the core of Castro, Colvin, and Soto. You have 2 posistions (catcher, short) that other teams don’t have and a potential franchise player in Castro. Seriously I would marry Castro if I wasn’t already.

by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 15, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't argree with 'mediocre 2nd Baseman'

De Witt is an upgrade over Theriot. And he’s cost-controlled.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 15, 2010 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Dewitt has never had a WAR above 2 granted small sample size. My grandpa is an upgrade over the midget.

by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 15, 2010 7:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is your grandpa a FA?

If so, he should go to Mesa next February – he could get a roster slot.

by ClarkFan on Aug 15, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just turned on the Phillies-Mets game on ESPN.

The infield resembles a muddy lake.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting news about Coleman

In the pregame, Oneri Fleita was asked what guy who had come up did he really like, even if he hasn’t really done anything yet, and he mentioned Coleman. It will be interesting to see what he does as a starter. We all know what Diamond can do (and I think I can say that we all really don’t need to see any more of that)

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by kaseyi on Aug 15, 2010 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

more shocking news of former cubs!

harden goes on DL with a bum shoulder

i dun believe it

by jesus christos on Aug 15, 2010 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you sure?

Do you have a link?

Harden is the very definition of “horse”.

{/sarcasm}

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by DeRoMyHero on Aug 15, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh oh

We got him to pitch game 3 of the playoffs….now what???

by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 15, 2010 8:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am like everyone else

Next year the Cubs corners in the infield must hit. But all of this talk of good-bye to DLee, who takes his spot?
 Cubs lay out what, 4 years 60-70M for Dunn?
 Overbay? LaRoche? Huff, who could demand at least 2 years if not 3 with the year he is having?
 To get Huff or Dunn, I would have to think Dome would have to be moved, or Z be moved.
 Interesting to see what direction they go.
 I would like Huff here only if the money and years are right.

by Grockcubs on Aug 15, 2010 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I really hope managment knows they probably won’t compete and don’t shell our money to a 30 plus year old. That kind of thinking got the Cubs to this point. The fans have to realize we won’t compete.

by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 15, 2010 8:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought they were going to

blow the game. Glad to see they didn’t.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2010 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

No matter how things get, you keep watching and you keep going to games when you can

because you just may see Ryan Dempster hit a clutch single, and then score by going home and sliding on a wild pitch. That sequence is worth the time you spend watching all the horrible stuff. Replays aren’t good enough. To see these small things live is why you watch Cubs baseball.

And then the Cubs kept hitting so he had time to change and cool down before going back to the mound. This is why you stay with it until the last out in … whatever the last month happens to be.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Aug 15, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Lee and his grandfather

Anybody have any idea about how long Lee’s grandfather has been ill? Perhaps this hot streak is a reaction to having the ability to spend some time him. Being distracted by his grandfather;s illness could explain a lot about his performance this season.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on Aug 15, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Very true.

People forget how personal things can affect a player’s performance. Look, for example, what happened to Ryan Dempster the first half of last year.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 15, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hesitate to mention this but in fact Aaron Miles

was going through the break up of his marriage last year.

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Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've read that.

Sorry to hear that for him.

I just still can’t feel good about him being on our team. I do wish him well in the future when he isn’t playing against us.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

@Doggie Stalker

Fontenot was also having girl trouble last year, mainly because asking for her hand was the one thing he was too timid to do. He finally did the right thing after the season, and they will be married on Thanksgiving weekend.

by Edelweiss on Aug 16, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Hadn’t heard that. Seems like the ’09 Cubs were a bigger soap opera than I thought.

by elgato on Aug 16, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hadn't either and would believe that when I saw some evidence of it.

Sounds possible sure…guess I am not sure exactly what he means here other than Fonty is having girl trouble…with someone.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Aaron Miles is not as bad (nowhere near as bad) as he looked last year for us

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by hansman1982 on Aug 16, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leave it to the Cubs ...

to comprise a team of guys who are having personal problems (Miles, Fontenot) and guys who perpetually lose their shit (Zambrano, Bradley).

by elgato on Aug 16, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

ha

if its not one thing its the other…last year really should have been a playoff year if it werent for Miles, Fontenot and Dempster’s personal problems (thereby assuming better years and a few more wins)

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by hansman1982 on Aug 16, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also, the Aramis injury.

Though that says nothing about his personal life.

by elgato on Aug 16, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

ya

the 2009 cubs were much better than their record…I think the same can be said for the 2010 Cubs, although now that we are into the season I dont think they ever were playoff bound…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 16, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Asking a woman to get married is not a personal problem

The personal problems don’t start until she says Yes.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Aug 16, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a great question.

But until I know that Lee’s grandpa has been sick all year, I’m not going to forgive him for his terrible season.

by elgato on Aug 15, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats also WSS

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

This game was perfect in just about every way

I like the way that they let the Cardinals get it close again, so the TLR could stew in the criticism about giving up on the game the previous inning. I wonder if they are having a good time with that one over at the Cards SB Nation site?

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Aug 15, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Boy, if the Cubs lost today, the Headline should have said Misery in Missouri

Cause that was frighting! Thank God that La Russa took Pujols out, or else Misery in Missouri might have been the title.

by braziliancubsfan on Aug 15, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

My take from section 235...

It sure was fun to sit in my section full of Cardinal fans and gloat for five innings, but I almost had to eat it all in that ninth inning. The two Cardinal fans I was with wanted to leave in the fifth inning, and I had to talk them into staying. After about the sixth or seventh inning, we began seeing more and more empty seats around Busch. Only about 10-15000 fans probably saw that ninth inning out of the 44,000+ paid attendance that was advertised.
We sat next to a group of about 15 people who were DOA (Drunk on Arrival) and who were very happy by the third inning and obnoxious by the sixth. The beer vendor just eventually sat down with them until he had to quit selling in the seventh. Then the cursing and yelling started, ending up with them getting kicked out in the eighth.
Dempster had lights out stuff today, and even others in my section commented on how Derrek Lee was “locked in” on Lohse. We were really surprised to see him lifted, and more surprised to see Pujols and Holliday lifted. Boy, would that ninth inning have been a mess if they had still been in there.

"Cubs fans....the wind beneath the Hawk's wings." Andre Dawson, on his induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame, 7/25/10

by sicubsfan on Aug 15, 2010 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Geez, that group sounds like the self-proclaimed "greatest fans in baseball" striking again.

What does this make your all-time record at Busch Stadium?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 15, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 wins and one loss.

Had great seats today in the second level up the first base line. There was a nice breeze and my seats were in the shade. If I hadn’t spent 90 minutes in the bleachers trying to get someone to throw/hit me a BP ball before the game, I wouldn’t have gotten this awful sunburn. Ouch!

"Cubs fans....the wind beneath the Hawk's wings." Andre Dawson, on his induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame, 7/25/10

by sicubsfan on Aug 15, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Cubs,

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Cincinnati.

I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.

by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 1:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I think it is fair to say: You're welcome! It was our pleasure.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 16, 2010 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

P.S.

Joey says that doesn’t go for the fans though.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 16, 2010 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn it! I messed up!

Dear Reds,

We don’t want Dusty to win either!

Go Pirates!

Sincerely,

Cub Fans

by TJ11 on Aug 16, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aye!

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Aug 16, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

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