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Marshall, Fuld Fail: Cubs Lose Seventh Straight At Home

Sam Fuld didn't really "fail" -- he hit a line drive to left that was snagged -- but I figured a punny headline ("Marshall Fuld", get it?) might take your mind off the Cubs' 5-3 loss to the Padres for a short time, anyway.

Here are the sad numbers (people of "a certain age" will remember Jack Brickhouse announcing on WGN-TV after somewhat rare victories in the 1960's, "Here are the happy totals!"):

  • The Cubs were swept for the first time ever at Wrigley Field by the Padres in a four-game series. That's a bit misleading, since in the 42-season history of these two clubs playing each other, this is only the eighth four-game series between the two at Wrigley. Still. (And only one of the previous seven, a four-game set in May 1971, resulted in a Cub sweep.)
  • It's the Cubs' seventh consecutive home loss. Since 1920, the Cubs have lost seven or more consecutive home games in the following seasons: 1938 (in a pennant year!), 1943 (twice), 1948, 1949, 1951, 1956, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1967, 1970, 1974 (twice), 1978, 1982, 1994, 1996, 2006 and now 2010. That's 18 out of the last 91 seasons, and you'll note that most of them are during the Wrigley ownership era. It's happened only five times in the last 30 years. The record is 12 straight home losses, set in 1994, the year of the famous Tom Trebelhorn meeting outside the firehouse.

Star-divide

There were two bigger fails today: first, we learned that Micah Hoffpauir was actually at the airport waiting for a flight to Chicago to be recalled after the Derrek Lee deal when management realized he couldn't come back to the major leagues yet because ten days hadn't passed since he was sent down last week.

Seriously -- it's not like this management team is new at this. No one realized this? Really?

That's why Fuld was recalled and given at least a weekend in Chicago. Tyler Colvin was taking grounders at first base during batting practice today and may get some playing time there (why not?), so the idea of recalling Hoffpauir was kind of silly anyway. At this point, just stick with Fuld until rosters expand September 1. They've got to leave some people at Iowa, after all; that team is headed to the PCL playoffs.

The second fail goes to Justin Berg, who failed to cover the plate in a rundown play in the seventh inning, on which Chase Headley was tagged out near third base. Koyie Hill claimed he called time -- but no matter, Berg should have been covering the plate anyway, and they have to make sure the umpire actually grants the time call before they all relax. It's yet another example of the poor fundamentals of this team.

The Cubs did manage a brief lead when they got -- amazingly, given what's happened most of this year -- back-to-back two-out doubles from Marlon Byrd and Aramis Ramirez, scoring two runs. Sean Marshall followed immediately with his worst home outing of the year and with the misplay at third, that did the Cubs in for the day.

The paid crowd of 30,687, looking rather bored most of the time, was the smallest of the year. It appeared there might have been 20,000 in the house -- about 1,700 were in the bleachers. This is the smallest crowd at Wrigley Field since September 7, 2006, when the paid attendance was announced as 27,105, the last paid crowd of under 30,000. It will likely get lower during the next homestand -- but this weekend, with the Braves and Derrek Lee in town, near-sellouts are expected. Today's house included BCB'ers Shanghai Badger, tripdenten, and one other BCB'er who came up and introduced himself and whose user name I didn't quite get (sorry!), as well as Jessica, who ranted a bit about the Hoffpauir snafu. She'll be with us in the bleachers Friday and Sunday.

And that home losing streak could reach near-record levels.

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To be fair...

… they looked this bad this late in 2000, 2002, and 2006, and had good seasons following all three.

It won’t be easy. But it is not impossible.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 19, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's very difficult to win consistently at the major league level.

But with the huge losing streak, recent trades, dead ass team, etc…, it’s a lot easier for the Cubs to go out there and keep on losing. Mentally, they aren’t invested in any way, shape or form. I’ll admit I’m not watching that closely, but do guys even appear to be fighting for their jobs next year?

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 19, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

1997-1998 is another good example of a great recovery.

however, those teams weren’t burdened with the types of contracts the 2011 Cubs will have, and therefore they had a better chance of improving. But hey, I’ll be cheering along with you next year, and on Opening Day 2011, I will feel just like a kid on Christmas, just like every year.

by holy mackeral on Aug 19, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can only hope!

I would like nothing more. Personally I"m running out of years!

by Saratoga on Aug 19, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs can be good fairly soon

They have the cash to rebuild quickly if they choose, and plenty of hopeful guys coming up through the minor league system. The question is if the Cubs have the fortitude to rebuild properly. This means continuing to acquire, develop, and promote young, impact minor league or cost controlled talent who can contribute at the major league level, and then making wise FA deals that don’t destroy payroll flexibility down the road (or block prospects) to put the team over the top.

The Cubs will have a lot of payroll coming off the books in the next few years, starting with about $25M next year with the departures of Lilly and Lee. Fukudome will be gone after ‘11 if not sooner, so that’s another $14M or so that will be off the books in ‘12. Silva’s $11.5M will be gone too. Ramirez might get his $16M option picked up for ’12, but only if he returns to form next year.

Even if we can’t move Zambrano or Soriano without paying over half their salaries, we should be in good shape by 2012. I realize Marmol and Soto may get significant raises in arbitration over the next couple years (or the Cubs might sign them to long term deals to buy out a couple years of FA), but we should have room to do this and still have plenty of payroll flexibility.

2011 may look bleak, but at the least we have several exciting young players to watch develop. Between Castro, Cashner, and Colvin, as well as possible call ups for Brett Jackson, Jay Jackson, and Chris Archer we have good cheap young talent on the rise. By 2012 we will have lots of extra money to play with, not to mention the possible advent of the Hak-Ju Lee / Starlin Castro double play duo. I personally think this is an exciting time for the Cubs. While this year is in the tank, but there is plenty of room for optimism.

by Bradsbeard on Aug 19, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Cubs fans will have to modify the annual end-of-season quote?

“Wait until the year after next year!”

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 19, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

2012

Is set up nicely for lots of Mayan calendar jokes. If we don’t pull it out by then, 2015 will provide plenty of Back to the Future references.

by Bradsbeard on Aug 19, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did lots of thinking and came to the conclusion that

unless we spend a boat load of money there is no way that we can effectively contend in the next 2-3 years.

We don’t have adequate if any impact players in the farm like Starlin Castro that we can count on helping us even in 2012. There are some promising prospects but nothing major.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 20, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

we took a giant step

back to respectability by dumping DP Lee. lou-ser is the second piece that needs to go

by Roman the greek on Aug 20, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad

there’s already 2 good teams in this division. Even a 2007ish bounce back year wouldn’t be enough.

Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden

by Allie on Aug 19, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That Hoff info is classic.

Gotta love the Cub braintrust.

At least the owner has great sushi in the skybox…

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

But Wait...

Hoff has had a great career for the Cubs. Oh, that’s the Iowa Cubs and not the Chicago Cubs. Oops!

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 19, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Marshall Failed" might've been a better headline

I’m so thankful I didn’t go nuts in Feb with tickets…even more thankful I’m not a season ticket holder. Yikes.

by rgonzale on Aug 19, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Darn!

Why didn’t I think of that?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a MAJOR complaint.....

The Cubs have the highest average ticket prices in MLB. Now that they have given up on the season, they are trotting out rookies till the end of the season. I know baseball is a business, but for these high ticket prices we deserve to see the Cubs play comptetive baseball by fielding the best team on the field. Who do think is paying for Soriano, Fukudome, Ramirez etc.? THE FANS! And you could gauge the fans’s disgust by looking around the stands and seeing how many empty seats there in the Friendly Confines these days. Here is an idea. Why don’t the Cubs trot out their B and C teams on the road and let the first stringers play at home? At least the fans can see what they are paying for. We better hope Ricketts drop ticket prices next year especially in this economy.

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Aug 19, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That's going to be my recommendation to Tom Ricketts...

… when I talk to him. Just a small price drop to show goodwill.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 19, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the Very Least...

lower the number of gold and platinum games. How about this idea? Give the season ticket holders a slight discount on a per game basis. I don’t know whether to applaud you for your dedication to the Cubs as a season ticket holder with all the money you spend on tickets or recommend you for psychotherapy for spending all that money on the tickets.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 19, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think at this point I would consider paying

A premium to see Alphonso aram and others benched for a game.

Sweeter words have rarely been spoken: "...and the cardinals are down to their final out."

by scottsdalecubs on Aug 19, 2010 5:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can think of many more

pressing issues than an insignificant ticket reduction. This team has so many needs that I’d consider it an insult to suggest 30 pieces of silver would make the top 100 list.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Aug 20, 2010 3:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it's an important issue.

Because an increase would be a huge insult to the fanbase.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2010 6:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

It may be to you Al

but it hardly is significant to the improvement needed to make us a winning franchise.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Aug 20, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

We suck.

Viva la Cubs Révolution!!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 19, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Pretty much.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 19, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hill

gave a weak lift of his arm to call time, but unfortunately it wasn’t until after the runner had broken for the plate. No umpire is going to grant time when there is a play in progress.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Partially incorrect

Hill’s effort was weak… but I rewound the game to check… the runner was firmly planted on third at the time of the wave. The 3B coach even started to walk over toward him… then he took off.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Aug 19, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just watched it for about the 20th time

on MLB Network. There is no question the runner had already broken for the plate when Hill raised his arm. But, it doesn’t really matter anyway, there is no time out until the umpire grants it, which clearly he did not do.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

You HAVE to make sure you get time.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 19, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

bad fundamentals

in a rundown situation…at least 2 people should have been standing at home plate…just in case Hill threw to 3rd and the runner came back towards home….little league stuff…

by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 19, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we've learned anything from this season

its that no one on the cubs gives a single crap about defense or the “little things”.

Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden

by Allie on Aug 19, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is why he stands out

Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden

by Allie on Aug 19, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody here Bob Brenly’s comments on Aramis. He just ripped him. YOu could tell he wanted to say how lazy he was.

"Matt Capps is more valuable than Albert Pujols."---by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2010 9:35 PM PDT

by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 19, 2010 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

quote?

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t know the exact quote. But it was when I think Latos had a sac bunt. He said something like (this is awful paraphrasing) “and you see Aramis not even look to second, normally you see third baseman getting in the grill of the batter”. basically he said ramierez was a lazzy ass.

"Matt Capps is more valuable than Albert Pujols."---by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2010 9:35 PM PDT

by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't remember that one

but I do remember some pointed comments from BB when the Padres runner did a pop up slide into third and then awkwardly tripped and fell and came off the bag. BB said AR gave up on the play and if he had held the tag on the runner, he would’ve been out, which is correct.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah. It was funny Len just kind of moved on. But Bob was just ripping Ramierez. It was hilarious.

"Matt Capps is more valuable than Albert Pujols."---by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2010 9:35 PM PDT

by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 19, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard that one.

There was also the force out at 2b which should have been a bang-bang play and ARam was not even in the picture yet.

I love our amazing hustling Cubbies!

Lou, Jim, and Tom approve!

by TJ11 on Aug 19, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surprised no one has said...

anything about ARam not following the runner on that bases loaded play. He nonchalantly took the throw and walked toward second nit even checking the runner who slid off the base and could have been tagged out. The difference between a player like Marlon Byrd (taking extra bases, running out grounders, following the action on defense) and ARam (turning doubles into singles, non-aggressive defense, lazy plays) is so evident now. I am usually very positive but have grown quite sick of our third baseman,

"Keep the sun out of your eyes and be yourself"

by cubbietenor on Aug 19, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That too

Interestingly, even when Soriano has done well in his time here people are quick to call him out for his mental errors, but they rarely do for Aramis. Must be the contracts.

by shoemile on Aug 19, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would venture Aramis also gets more of a pass for a couple of other reasons:

Soriano CAME to Chicago being known as a bit of a head case, so some were just waiting for him to live up to that particular hype.

And Aram was a key part of the 2003 Cubs run to the NLCS, he’s achieved a bit of a folk hero stature.

Aramis is probably the best 3B we’ve had at that position since Santo.

by HuskerCorner on Aug 19, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've gotta assume the 2003 thing plays the biggest part

I grew a bit disillusioned when he didn’t step up when Lee went down in 06 until it didn’t matter anymore, and he’s to blame as much as anyone for the playoff collapses of 07 and 08. That’s not to say I don’t appreciate him as a player, and your comparison to Santo is valid. I just feel like people around here are more willing to give him a pass than the other two big money guys of this failed dynasty. I think that’s because the failures of Lee and Soriano are more pronounced because they had roles (Lee being the leader, Soriano being the 136 million dollar man), while Aramis was just expected to be good, which he certainly has been for the most part.

by shoemile on Aug 19, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kasper noted that the 10 Ks for Latos is a career high. So there's that.

And you want to see how to put together a bullpen?

Thatcher 0.1 IP, 1K, 4 strikes in 6 pitches (10th hold)
Gregerson 0.2 IP, all 5 pitches were strikes (31st hold)
Bell 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 K, 12 strikes in 17 pitches (37th save in his “worst” effort in a while)

That’s 28 pitches, 21 for strikes, in 2 innings… and the only reason the run was scored was defensive indifference.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Aug 19, 2010 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

The Cubs make every pitcher faced look like Cy Young winners

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 19, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

unless they really are Cy Young winners

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by hansman1982 on Aug 20, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Padres bullpen has been great all year

and what is interesting is that other than Bell, it is guys that most baseball fans don’t know.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

you could say that about everyone on the padres

name a padre other than bell or adrian gonzalez?

before this series i would’ve struggled to name 2 other guys.

Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden

by Allie on Aug 19, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Ricketts...

Is showing me what kinda owner he really is right now. Marketing guru who only cares about the bottom dollar and the profit margin!!! Don’t give me this crap about what he inherited or he hasn’t had time. Blow up, fire everyone in sight and show us your not gonna put up with this utter nonsense.

It starts from the top Tom. Wait you say???? He isn’t waiting to count the cash he’s receiving from tickets, concessions, memorabilia etc. Why should we wait?

I can handle losing but I can’t handle no effort. Bring up the damn A-Leaguers, maybe they would appreciate the chance to play in front of huge crowds and fans that want them to win.

by cubsluver22 on Aug 19, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Since they're playing like an F team

wouldn’t that be an improvement?

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Aug 20, 2010 3:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

But ronsanto10 pays big bucks to see the top guys. I’m not knocking him for thinking that because I know there are many people who feel that way. Just saying it’s a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation.

by shoemile on Aug 20, 2010 3:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whats gonna make me even madder is....

 I have a bad feeling his trying to appease us and make amends is gonna be throwing a ton of money at the likes of Adam Dunn which is the kinda player that got us into this mess to begin with.

This team don’t need a band-aid it needs surgery.

by cubsluver22 on Aug 19, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

So the Cubs

never should sign any more free agents? Get ready for a lot of losing seasons.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 19, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't say that

 Adam Dunn would be a great signing at 2 yrs 10-12 per. But with the expected market for him we don’t need to get into another bidding war where we are saddled with some monster contract for a player who is on the downhill side of his career and producing much like D. Lee did this year. Were gonna have to get smart which I think Hendry is too player friendly for.
  
  Were gonna have to take some chances and trade guys at their peak instead of waiting to their near useless i.e Marlon Byrd. Senseless stuff like that is why were where we are. Low cost, hot hitting, good fielding, positive attitude player who is not part of the long term future is what teams want and can afford. Should have been flipped!!

  What we need now is too keep letting the likes of Colvin and Castro AB’s and experience. Brain dead move to not be running Colvin out there daily.

by cubsluver22 on Aug 19, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

except when he is in a monster slump and

has played nearly every day for 2 months – not bad to give him a few days off – especially if they are working on moving him to first. Also Dunn is in the heart of the prime of his career and is improving his 1b defense…I wouldnt mind signing him to a decent 4 year deal and then let him go afterwards…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 20, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

To paraphrase Morris Buttermaker, if the current team doesn’t want to play, we might as well play the bottom-end of the bench scrubs…at least they’ll try.

Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!

by TMOX on Aug 19, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is no current team

The team is 90% bench scrubs

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Aug 20, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop blaming Tom....

Blame the players and management that failed to produce.

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 19, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm saying homie

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 19, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I don't understand

how people won’t even give him a chance to make this team better.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 19, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

nonsense

he needs to fire everyone so we win this year – cause that always works in a business – buy it and immediately come in and fire everyone who has any knowledge on how to run it

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by hansman1982 on Aug 20, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

sarcasm I hope?

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

No its more about....

Coming in and setting a precedence for yourself. Setting the standard comes from the top! Show us you won’t put up with this non sense.

by cubsluver22 on Aug 20, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

make this green

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 20, 2010 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Imagine how angry we’d be if he’d gone after a whole lot of expensive vets at the deadline.

"Sometimes you eat the bar and sometimes..."

by Phubbies on Aug 20, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's too much sense in this

Not to rec it.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because that strategy...

… has worked so well for the Washington Redskins recently.

The minor leagues and the instructional leagues exist for a reason. The reason is that the players in those leagues still need to develop. Pushing them up to the Show early jeopardizes their potential and puts them at risk of forming bad playing habits.

Furthermore, it’s likely to lead to the same behavior you’re complaining about. 25 A-Leaguers are not likely to win against MLB squads. That leads to long losing streaks and demoralized players. Demoralized players don’t put in much effort because they figure, “what’s the point, we’re just going to lose.” So I don’t see what the point of firing everyone and promoting the A-Leaguers is.

"Sometimes you eat the bar and sometimes..."

by Phubbies on Aug 20, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

As posted on the pages months ago, I explained

that the Padres have a helluva bullpen. They are nearly perfect.

And, that Gregerson is a huge, major Blackhawks fan since he is a Chicago native.

All one can really says is that their journeymen ballplayers are having career years. Combine that with some second-year position players which are getting the job done — Gonzales, a starting rotation that NOBODY saw coming — and the collapse of the rest of the NL West, there is no doubt that this is the Padres year.

All on the cheap. Unbelieveable.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 19, 2010 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Collapse of the rest of NL West?

Hardly. 4 of the 5 teams are over .500. Even after a tough week in Philadelphia, the Giants are still on pace to win 90 games.

The Padres are on pace to win 98 games, which will win the Division 9 years out of 10.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

How far over .500 is Arizona?

Oh wait…

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

zing

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 19, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The team in AZ

with their flammable bullpen and chasing the all time record in Ks is only about 3 games behind the Cubs, last time I checked.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

So the Cubs currently have a better W-L record than the Diamondbacks?

I had no idea that was the case. Of course, I’m basing my perceptions on your posts here.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was not your Diamondbacks comments I was basing that perception upon.

Just sayin’.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Collapse of the NL West

Giants were 2 games off the lead….now 6 back
Dodgers now 12 back, Rockies 10 back…this was a 4 team race.

If the Padres keep up the pace, it’s over

I’d say that’s a friggin’ collapse.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 19, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Consider the source.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny you say that

I checked their stats two days ago, and MOST of the starters are hitting in the .245-.275 range with typically 6-10 HRs and averaging 45-55 RBIs each. Of course, AGON is the huge exception to that rule, with his big numbers.

But my point is that this team isn’t killing people with their bats, they are just playing near-perfect baseball everyday.

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 19, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why didn't the Cubs trade for Gregerson at the start of the season?

I remember rumors of the Cubs looking at him.

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 19, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Ricketts has done a great job so far!

Look at how he has backed up JH and all his fine moves this season!

The Cubs play today was inspiring! Lou has total control of what is going on!

I just wonder if they can keep this high level of energy going for the rest of the season!

I have never seen a team hustle like this one does!

by TJ11 on Aug 19, 2010 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

"It's the Cubs' seventh consecutive home loss"

It’s also the second consecutive series sweep at home. Remember Cincinnati?

The way this club is playing I can’t believe I just sold my Wrigley tickets at face value.

"I knew there had to be a place where the game could be fun again. I found that place. It's called Wrigley Field. It reminded that if you love the game, it will love you back." - Andre Dawson, HOF speech 7/25/10

by JFCubFan on Aug 19, 2010 6:14 PM CDT reply actions  

You got a great deal

Last September I got three $50 UD Boxes for $16 each on StubHub (my wife wanted the Fergie bobblehead). Yes, hard to believe you got face.

by ChipSet on Aug 19, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colvin maybe playing first

base does peak my interest. Wonder if/how soon we will see that happen?

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 19, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

2011

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 19, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 19, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Len said on the TV broadcast

that Colvin has been taking ground balls at 1st base in the last couple of days. I assume that means they are at least considering it now.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who is "they"?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 19, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou won't even play the guy @ his natural position...

what makes you think for a second that he’d write his name down on the lineup card at one he’s NEVER played before?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 19, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ty

Used to play 1st early in his baseball career

~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will

by unretrofied93 on Aug 19, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Little League?

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 19, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

like HS? College? When?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 19, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

College

He was a 1st baseman for Clemson

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by unretrofied93 on Aug 19, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still

some limited experience at 1st, i wonder If the guys upstairs will move him over.

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by unretrofied93 on Aug 19, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

5 games in his entire college career

None since then. Let’s stop spreading the notion that he’s got more than a little experience there.

by madcow256 on Aug 19, 2010 8:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Junior high?

When?

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then why work him out at 1st?

Just for amusement value. I didn’t say they would do it, I just said they were considering it, which clearly they are.

But, I’m sure you know what is in their minds better than they do, so I’ll defer to you on this one.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is some 'community'

Al has got here.

A community of jerks and blow hards.

by azjazzman on Aug 19, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe Al has policies about trolling at BCB.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ding ding!

We have a winner!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you had left us?

What happend did the dog return to the vomit?

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Aug 19, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he decided to show us why BCB is meant for people like him.

If indeed BCB is a community of “jerks and blowhards”, then he should indeed feel right at home.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

VCF

Yup good to have him back we need that extra voice of asshole to keep us in perspective.

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Aug 19, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey azjazzman

Do you by chance have ownership of a red stapler?

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Aug 19, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Err

I meant to say a Sedona Red Swingline?

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Aug 19, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Dunn's contract expires.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Aug 19, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless I am much mistaked

after this year. I thought he only signed on with the Nats for 2, so now they are trying to extend him

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by unretrofied93 on Aug 19, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dind ding ding ding

Girardi will pencil him into the opening day lineup for OUR 2011 Chicago Cubs………………….or not.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Aug 19, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

We probably will

We will have post after post after post of people wanting him. Hendry will throw some insane amount of money and get him. Then we will have post after post about how Hendry over paid. Then after he starts sucking(Oh he will before the end of the contract) everyone that wrote the posts about wanting him will jump on the we overpaid him wagon and/or trade him for a Dominic Brown type prospect etc.

by cubsluver22 on Aug 19, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if this team is gonna at least LOOK like they wanna contend next year...

there’s no other option for 1st base. Look at the contenders in the league’s first basemen. Howard, Pujols, Morneau, Texierria, Votto, Gonzalez…all sluggers. Anyone in the Cubs organization compare with that? Gonna have to spend to get one.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Aug 19, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one on the FA Agent Market...

Compares with that list! I would rather go with a no name than spend some insane amount of money at insane amount of years for some player like Dunn.

by cubsluver22 on Aug 19, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, you're all good with another 70 win season then, right?

That’s where it’ll end up unless you strengthen the power positions…and Colvin, although a good ball player, isn’t the answer at 1B.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Aug 19, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be better to wait until AGonz and Pujols are available the next year

and either play Colvin at 1B or someone like Aubrey Huff on a 1-yr deal?

I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.

by EalyEagle on Aug 19, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except if Gonzalez is resigned or traded to Boston

and Pujols is resigned.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on Aug 19, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

theres no way gonzalez resigns

and unless the padres tank in the first half next year he wont be traded

by jesus christos on Aug 19, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad you are so certain that he will be hitting the FA market

If he does, the Cubs will need to outbid the Red Sox.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on Aug 19, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

And what if

AGonz or Pujols are hurt, or have crappy seasons next year?

That is part of the reason why the Cubs need to contend every year. You don’t know what the future will hold.

If you keep knocking on the door year after year, your odds of it opening get a whole lot better. If you wait and say “Let’s aim for 2-3 years down the road,” you might end up waiting forever.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 19, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

as long as we can get Dunn

for closer to $10 mill than $15 mill it would be a good deal – 4-$50-52 wouldnt be too bad I would say with no damn NTC and it would be nice if there were a TEAM option for a 5th year at $10 million

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by hansman1982 on Aug 20, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Less going for broke, more long-range vision

is what I’d like to see in how the Cubs are run, particularly when it comes to acquiring available players.

The bar should be set within the organization that only the highest quality talent will be procured. No shopping for the sake of shopping. If there isn’t a Pujols or a Lincecum on the market when there’s a hole to fill, then either fill it internally or sign a middling player to a deal that doesn’t hamstring the payroll or the flexibility to move the player.

Maybe a poor analogy, but think of a person needing to lose 40 pounds. The right way to do it is over a period of time, methodically dieting and exercising and otherwise committing to improvement over a period of time.

You are right in that none of us know what the future will bring. But barring an act of God, it will still be there for us. Therefore it’s up to the person (or baseball club) to be proactive and fashion the future in a way that best benefits themselves.

I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.

by EalyEagle on Aug 20, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

correct

example: yankees at the beginning of the season filled their LF hole with randy winn and brett gardner, instead of signing holliday or bay

guess whos a LF FA this offseason?

by jesus christos on Aug 20, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's nice

when you have Jeter, A-Rod, etc.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really expect

we can sign Huff for 1 year? His OPS this year is 900.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Aug 20, 2010 3:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

The focus of my suggestion

was less about specific players and more about wise planning.

I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.

by EalyEagle on Aug 20, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marshall Fulds sounds like a place to go shopping.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 19, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope

that store would give away merchandise like we give a way runs

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by unretrofied93 on Aug 19, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn’t they become a generic Macy’s?

Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!

by TMOX on Aug 19, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like those Fargo Mints

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teehee ^-^

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by Cubbiegoon on Aug 19, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really think we are looking at

100 losses. I think for the most part the young guys are going to give a honest effort, but the rest of this wonderful team I don’t know.
 Feel bad for Marshall today, the guy has been great all year.
 10 losses in a row at home after the weekend? Most likely.

by Grockcubs on Aug 19, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

it would be nice if the young guys were actually allowed to play then

Barney, Colvin and Castillo all rode the pine today, only Colvin even got a plate appearance

by HuskerCorner on Aug 19, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hill, 'Dome and Nady will probably see alot of action between now and the 1st of September...

due to the fact that other teams could still put them on their playoff rosters if acquired by then. Just assuming, tho.

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Aug 19, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

considering thats what he'll do in his career

you might as well get him at bats against real major league pitching this year, for a team that is going no where

by HuskerCorner on Aug 19, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barney's been up for a few games.

There’s a good bit of season left for him to play.

by elgato on Aug 19, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And after watching how Lou has handled every youngster besides Castro

you believe that Darwin will get his fair share of plate appearances?

by HuskerCorner on Aug 19, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Barney needs a few starts a week. Even if you play DeWitt at third to get them to him. And I am not too upset with “showcasing” Fukudome, but I don’t think that should keep Colvin from getting 3 starts a week. Right now he is getting pinch-hitting experience. GREAT.

by CubFan90 on Aug 19, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marshall Fuld? Ouch!

Just for that, no Frango Mints for you, Al.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Aug 19, 2010 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

There are still Frango Mints, though

Another company is making them from the original recipe and they’re every bit as good as they ever were.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Aug 20, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been thinking about the good years the Cubs have had after bad years ...

in two of the years, ’98 and ’01, the Cubs were boosted by 60-plus homers from Sammy Sosa. The ’03 team still had Sosa (in his last good year), Prior, Wood, Clement and Zambrano combining to win 59 games and Joe freaking Borowski came out of nowhere to save 30-plus games. The ’07 team won after unparalleled spending and only got 85 victories.

I’d say 85 wins is our ceiling next year. The good news is that that would put the team in the Wild Card hunt, and would bring fans to Wrigley. The bad news is that a LOT has to go right to get to 85 wins.

Al is mentally preparing his standard optimist’s response right now — and that’s fine. I think next year’s team will be better than this year’s.

My point is that just because other recent Cubs teams have gone from worst to first, we shouldn’t assume that next year’s Cubs have it in them. We should be happy if we don’t repeat 1999-2000 instead of hoping for 2002-2003.

by elgato on Aug 19, 2010 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

loved JoBo

he was too clueless to know he sucked.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

The response is...

… optimist or no, you do not know now who will be on this team next April. All four of those teams (including 97-98) had significant changes in the offseason.

So will this team.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 19, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right.

But I see a team with seven position starters returning, a rotation with at least three guys coming back and a closer and primary setup guy penciled in.

Four or five bullpen spots, maybe a couple starters, a first baseman and most of a bench.

A little less than half a roster — but the half that largely has the smallest effect.

by elgato on Aug 20, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah yes... the ol' 45/20 rule... ;-)

actually, make that a " :-( "

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by ballhawk on Aug 20, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Showcasing Fukudome

So that’s 6 starts in the last 7 games for Fukudome, with Colvin sitting on the bench. Are the Cubs just showcasing Fukudome to see if he is trade-able before September 1?

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by RiskyBusiness on Aug 19, 2010 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?

Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.

Any more questions ?

by Easy Ed on Aug 19, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The truly ridiculous part of all this is that Colvin can play all three OF positions

It doesn’t have to be Colvin OR Dome.

It amazes me (but doesn’t surprise me) that Lou still can’t figure out how to rotate the starters so they ALL get plate appearances. It’s not like Soriano and Byrd are lighting the world on fire.

by HuskerCorner on Aug 19, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see Colvin as being a very good RF or CF

He often turns the wrong way on balls. He has dropped several catchable balls that most major league OF catch easily.

As an outfielder, I think his ceiling is “competent left fielder”. His future may be better at 1B. Since he is taking ground balls there, why not play him there for 20-30 games and find out what he can do?

Because the future of the Cubs at 1B is not “Xavier Nady”.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 19, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since the season is over

I would put him at first to see how he does. He seemed all for it in his interview today.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 19, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't see Lou giving him the time at first...

I think Lou is just going to send out Nady(who has been hitting a little better) and Hoff.

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 19, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

but until Hoff gets here, why not?

Its not like the defense can get that much worse.

Things work out best for those that make the best out of the way things work out - Coach Wooden

by Allie on Aug 19, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That may be true

However, I also think Colvin taking grounders at first was a decision from up high, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Hendry gives Lou a mandate

by shoemile on Aug 19, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is what should be happening right now

Hendry and Co. should be telling Lou:

Look, Lou, we let you go out on your terms, in the meantime here are the guys you are going to play everyday and you are gonna like it.

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by hansman1982 on Aug 20, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish that would happen.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are probably right.

Damn Lou.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hendry is probably working up an off-season deal

of Colvin, Castro and Barney for a 32 year-old starting pitcher who will turn out to have a partial tear of the rotator cuff. I’m kidding, of course! Barney isn’t in the package! Whew!! AND it will only be a five year deal with a PARTIAL no trade clause.

by Vegas Bob on Aug 19, 2010 7:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Oh, oh!!!

Let’s get Peavy in that deal

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 19, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

why not go after BRob as well

we can do it!

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

lets set a recprd for loses and home loses in a row

we can do ti!

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Mind and hands not cooperating?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

harder to type with a fractured hand

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

I think you’ve got me beat. A wire whipped through the air and the end of it nailed me in the eye yesterday at work.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

how is your hand doing? getting better?

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

still sore, swelling is going down.

sucks typing at work all damn day, and doesnt help i am right handed and its my right hand of course that is injured.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

ooooo sorry to hear that, swelling down is good tho

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

how is your sting?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

we are dropping like fly balls hit to the Cubs OF

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO!

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean waaaaaaa :(

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You and me are the bruise brothers!

And cooliogirl is our sister!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

are you calling her aretha franklin?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol you two crack me up :D

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You better think...

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

four whole fried chicken and a coke

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jake......

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

dry white toast

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elwood...???

The Blues Brothers!!!

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

How was Joliet?

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

hows your eye?

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doing fine, thanks.

Just need to apply one more eyedrop … at any time.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

glad to hear it

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clarification.

I need to apply the eyedrop tonight.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just did it.

No more eye drops!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

YAAAAAY!

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got lucky.

Despite the wire whipping my eye, I apparently recovered all eyesight in the eye in less than an hour. How that happened is anyone’s guess.

The eye drops were more to ward off potential infections.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good to hear it

You can’t mess with eyes. No good happens

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 19, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

which hurt more

the wire or watching the 2010 Cubs?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs.

Without question.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i figured as much

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the eye stopped hurting after a few hours.

And I just got off my anti-infection medication.

The Cubs have hurt for months and months, and there’s no cure or medication to help me recover from the pain of them.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, The Wire certainly had the power to hurt.

But the 2010 Cubs can match it, painful scene for painful scene.

DA: And what do you do, Mr. Little?
OMAR: I’m a Cub fan.
DA: And exactly how long has this been your occupation, Mr. Little?
OMAR: Well, I don’t know exactly. I venture to say maybe ’bout eight or nine years.
DA: Mr. Little, how does a man watch this team for eight or nine years and live to tell about it?
OMAR: Day at a time, I suppose.

D’ANGELO: “The past is always with us. Where we come from, what we go through, how we go through it; all this s**t matters.”

BUNK: The thing of it is, Lieutenant… Carlos Zambrano, when he’s pitching and things go wrong he’s a picture postcard of a self-destructive f**k-up. And when he’s pitching and things go well… he’s pretty much the same motherf***er. But when that 4-seamer is working, he runnin’ in front of the pack. That’s as close as the man comes to bein’ right.

D’ANGELO: WHERE’S COLVIN, AT? WHERE THE * IS COLVIN? WHERE’S COLVIN, LOU? HUH? WHERE’S THE KID?

OMAR: (to the parade of Cubs’ AAA relievers) How you expect to run with the wolves come night, when you spend all day sparring wit’ the puppies?

And when the painful year is over, the King (Hendry) stay the king, a’ight? Everything stay who he is.

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by D98 on Aug 20, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad you will be ok.

Sounds like it could have been much worse.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 19, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I got really lucky.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

get better there slappy

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You too.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL I got stung by a bee!

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know...right?

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nooooooooo!

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

im to the point i want to see a historic losing team on the north side

if you are going to stink, do it right……..how much longer until the Blackhawks report to camp?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha! we love the hawks! thanks for the song

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

bumper cars with Zambonis

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

is this you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPSZmt1WB3c&feature=related

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO....I love her! she was great!

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

If cooliogirl47 used the phrase "shitass laptop" in the last 48 hours

I’ll buy Cubbie-Tim a beer.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 19, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry Tim....I didnt say it, no beer for you

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is so wrong

yet i cant stop laughing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yohh1Xj-B40&feature=related

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

baaaaad

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

yikes!!!!

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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 19, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

From twitter

FMwayofL

which made me chuckle.

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by Allie on Aug 19, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

its why we are all 955 scar tissue

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 19, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brutal and hard to

watch anymore . Friend offered tickets free to their neighbors who were huge fans . Neighbors said no thanks maybe next year !! Pretty well sums up fans are getting sick and tired of this dismal season real quick . It is obvious the new owners are just going thru the motions .

by cubs north on Aug 19, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Again with this

Is Ricketts filling out the lineup card? Is he the one making errors and not hustling out plays?
What are you hoping for? Honestly, are you hoping he cleans house right now, that he sends Lou and Hendry packing, and outright releases some of the larger contracts right now?
Give the guy at least a year. He bought a train wreck. Even if he ends up being a great owner, turning this around is going to take some time.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 19, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1000

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 20, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

He gets a grace period for buying the train wreck.

His decision to retain the conductor after surveying the damage, however, gives many reasonable people pause.

It’s absolutely reasonable to withhold any judgment of Ricketts until a year or so has passed. But some negative circumstantial evidence is starting to pile up, too, and it’s equally reasonable to note this stuff as cause for – if not “alarm”, then perhaps for “interest”.

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by D98 on Aug 20, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even Al was critical of Ricketts for not demonstrating concern and involvement

during the Zambrano-Lee fiasco. So the demand for a “show of force” (or “signs of life” per some) out of the new owner isn’t exclusive to the lunatic fringe.

I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.

by EalyEagle on Aug 20, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know, damnit

Tom really needs to just fire everyone, should have done that on day 2 because its not like baseball has guarranteed contracts or that he needs a front office staff that is used to the Cubs – good heavens no – if he was a good owner he would be doing everything himself…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 20, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions