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Just before 3 today, Thomas Diamond is throwing out in left field, and I’m told Casey Coleman will join the club from Class AAA Iowa, presumably to take some heat off the beleaguered bullpen. Coleman will make some history, marking the first family with three generations of big-league pitchers.

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We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Aug 2, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

And, former Cub/Tiger Joe Coleman...

… was the son of this Joe Coleman, who pitched mostly for the Philadelphia A’s in the 1940’s.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 2, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wilkens

seems to place a high value on bloodlines. I don’t have an opinion one way or another about that, just an observation that we seem to be drafting (and trading for) a lot of former player’s kids.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Aug 2, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt there are many more in the Cub organization..

…. than are in any other organization.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 3, 2010 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

No?

Maybe it just seems like it.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Aug 3, 2010 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps so.

Don’t have any specific numbers, but it seems there are baseball bloodlines all over MLB and the minors.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 3, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd agree

Sons of former major leaguers are all over the place. Their dads have connections and they’ve gotten professional instruction from the time they were old enough to pick up a ball.

The Cubs might currently have more than an average number in their system, but I don’t think that’s a result of anything more than random chance.

Just as an aside, it’s symbolic of how the status of ballplayers has changed over the decades. Before WWII, there weren’t a lot of sons of major leaguers in the game because ballplayers wanted their kids to go to college and get respectable jobs. You start getting a few more in the fifties and sixties, but the real flood starts in the 1970s, when salaries and working conditions change dramatically for ballplayers.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 3, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So....

Thomas Diamond is throwing out in left field

This would be a ‘Diamond in the rough’, then?

We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971

by Zeke on Aug 2, 2010 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

boo ;-)

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 2, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Assuming he actually gets into a game

The Colemans will become the fourth family to have three generations in the major leagues, after the Bells, the Boones and the Hairstons. The Colemans will be the only three generational family of pitchers.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 2, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Also...

… Casey Coleman is not on the 40-man roster; he’ll have to be added. So will Thomas Diamond tomorrow. When those two are added, the 40-man roster will be full.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 2, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which suggests to me more moves are on the way.

Teams don’t seem to want to sit at a full 40 man for long (for some reason)… so you could see some players waived/released.

Otherwise, a couple of other guys could be in danger of losing their 40 man spot. Mateo (stalling), Parker (just demoted), Gaub (struggling), Hoff (“old”), Adduci (any future?).

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Aug 2, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

so is the deal

Coleman goes on the 25 man roster tonight to take Lillys spot and then is sent down tomorrow to make room for Diamond to start?

See the Cubs 2010 schedule (now with game times & TV Schedule) at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2010.html
Also see what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html

by kaseyi on Aug 2, 2010 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Could be

But I’d guess Schlitter will get sent back to Iowa instead.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Aug 2, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yipee!

"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 2, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Coleman replaced Silva, who went on the DL.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 3, 2010 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't hear the Silva move was official

until I got to the park last night, so I was not sure how these transactions would go. On the radio all afternoon, both WSCR & WGN were saying Coleman was taking Lilly’s spot on the roster.

See the Cubs 2010 schedule (now with game times & TV Schedule) at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2010.html
Also see what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html

by kaseyi on Aug 3, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

What year Joe Coleman with Cubs?

I’m guessing around 74? Maybe later. Decent pitcher but just a filler when Cubs got him, a la Steve Renko.

Cubs soaring ERA as team I’m hoping will convince FO they need to make MAJOR changes/improvements to contend next year. We’ve fallen far behind St L and Cincy now with Zambrano’s decline and trade of Lilly. Hope some youngsters can step up and show something the last 2 mos.

Phil Rogers on WGN yesterday suggested Andrew Cashner starting, might be worth trying. He said that guys like Dempster were (using an old phrase), "just good enough to lose.‘’ With a bad offensive team behind them, I’m afraid he’s right.

I wonder if Dodgers continue to disappoint and have money problems we might be able to swing a good trade for one of Ethier, Loney or Kemp (in off-season) for prospects or (gasp) the affordable and productive Byrd.

by QuincyCub on Aug 2, 2010 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

1976

The Cubs got him on June 8 and he pitched the rest of the season for the Cubs, mostly out of the pen.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 2, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really nice kid

Had a chance to talk to him a few months back. Down to earth cool dude who hopefully impresses Cubs management enough to get a spot in the bullpen permanently in September.

by ak123 on Aug 2, 2010 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Send him back down

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

by Ace Venom on Aug 3, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I count six

sons of former major leaguers in the Cubs system: Casey Coleman, James Russell, James Adduci, Mike Perconte, Michael Brenly and Brett Wallach. Derrek Lee is the nephew of a major leaguer and the son of a minor league and Japanese league player.

I don’t think that’s a lot.

I’m sure there are some sons of minor leaguers in the system. Ryan Flaherty is the son of the head baseball coach at Southern Maine.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 3, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

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