Carlos Marmol Melts Down, Cubs Lose 8th Straight Home Game
by Al Yellon on Aug 20, 2010 5:02 PM CDT
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PrintOf all the jaw-dropping losses this season, this one might be the jaw-droppingest.
Right after Rick Ankiel hit his bases-loaded triple with two out and two strikes in the ninth inning, I spotted Kosuke Fukudome, who had thrown the ball in, standing in front of the right-field wall on the warning track with his hands on his hips, staring into the infield as if to say, "How did I get myself into this?"
I ran into Ballhawk Ken outside the bleachers on my way out of the ballpark after the Cubs' 5-3 loss to the Braves and I told him maybe it was time to put up that "Gone Fishin'" graphic that someone posted in the comments to one of the game threads a couple of weeks ago. Problem is, I didn't save it and I can't find it. If anyone's got it, email it to me. I have a feeling I'm going to need it soon.
Remember that list I posted yesterday? Of the years in which the Cubs had lost at least seven straight home games? Here it is again:
1938 (in a pennant year!), 1943 (twice), 1948, 1949, 1951, 1956, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1967, 1970, 1974 (twice), 1978, 1982, 1994, 1996, 2006 and now 2010
Now it's eight in a row and you can drop the following years from the list: 1948, 1956, 1961, 1967, 1978 and 1982, which leaves the following, and 2010 could move far up the list after this weekend:
1938 (in a pennant year!), 1943 (twice), 1949, 1951, 1960, 1962, 1970, 1974 (twice), 1994 (twice), 1996, 2006 and now 2010 (added a second streak that I located to 1994)
George Ofman, on WGN's postgame show, said the Cubs had lost "five" straight home games. If you heard that, that is not correct. Eight is right -- one to the Braves, four to the Padres, and three to the Reds. The last home win was the 15-3 win over the Brewers on August 4, and that's the only one since July 24 vs. the Cardinals -- 11 of the last 12 home games have been defeats.
What else is there to say? Ryan Dempster pitched his heart out, allowing only one baserunner after the fourth inning. I've called out Lou a number of times this year for leaving a starter in too long to get hit hard, but in this case the reverse was likely true. He'd thrown 106 pitches -- he has had 14 other starts this year when he's thrown more. Granted, it was hot and humid, but it had gotten overcast by the 8th inning and unless Dempster himself said he was done, I'd have sent him out there for the ninth.
The Cubs actually played a pretty good game, getting some clutch two-out hitting for their first run and Aramis Ramirez' 18th HR of the year (and only his third this month). The game should have been won. But in a year like this one...
Derrek Lee received a warm ovation when he stepped up with two out in the first inning; entirely appropriate given his six-plus fine years as a Cub. He acknowledged the crowd with a tip of his helmet and then flied to left. He struck out twice and hit a line drive right at Starlin Castro in his other three AB -- this is something Braves fans, unfortunately for them, may have to get used to for the rest of this season.
One thing the Braves did during batting practice struck me as useful. After each hitter took a few swings, he ran around the bases, practicing, it appeared, situational baserunning given what kind of hit the ensuing batter had. This strikes me as a useful tool to keep you grounded in fundamentals and situations. It is something the Cubs haven't done in at least the last eight years. Also, Braves coaches were hitting fungoes to outfielders and ground balls to infielders.
This is something the next Cubs manager ought to do, I think, no matter who it is.
Finally -- apologies for not having the game preview on the front page; I accidentally unchecked the "front page" box when I set it up to post at 11 am. Guess I'm having a tough year, too. Until tomorrow.
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90 wins now mathematically no longer possible
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
we've made the playoffs before with less than 90 wins....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
we can still win 90
when you include our post season wins
Chronologically inept since 2060
"I could be writing this crap!" -- Crow T. Robot
Ack.
I can’t come up with anything, after this I’m just speechless. Not only did I see Derrek Lee’s last game as a Cub on Sunday, so far it’s also their last win….sigh.
"Cubs fans....the wind beneath the Hawk's wings." Andre Dawson, on his induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame, 7/25/10
Icky
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
At least the game threads amused me today
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
"Also, Braves coaches were hitting fungoes to outfielders and ground balls to infielders."
You mean we DON’T do this?
Well, that explains a lot. I didn’t think it was possible, but I actually hate Lou a little bit more
Actually,
the Cubs do. It’s a fairly standard BP regimen. I’ve no idea what Al is talking about.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 20, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, I assumed we did, because I assumed almost EVERYONE did
Hence my surprise
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see Cubs coaches doing it.
And the Cubs do NOT do that baserunning drill.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I don't know what THAT
baserunning drill is, but they do a variation. Last round of BP for starters in most cases.
And fungoe work is as standard a pre-game practice as the meal. You need to come earlier.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 20, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm there as early as I can get there.
I’ll have to take your word for it. Usually when I get there Lou & Sinatro are standing in the outfield looking bored.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Visiting teams get less time on the field
so they tend to do the fungo work during BP. The home team will often do the fielding drills prior to BP, and even wearing different clothes. I believe some of the pre-game workout occurs before the gates open to fans.
Somebody take Aramis' bat off the restricted list, please.
This question occurred to me when you brought up the drills
and I don’t know that it has any affect or not, but do we have a coach on the staff under the age of 50?
If we don’t when was the last time we did? I don’t recall we actually had a young coach. They always seems to be of the pudgy to fat, aging variety.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, I'm sober, but I can't write
I don’t recall the last time we actually had a young coach. They always seems to be of the pudgy to fat, aging variety.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
No sarcasm intended...
But I don’t get the connection.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 20, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I do.
Lou is old-school. So are a lot of his coaches.
We need some new blood, younger ideas.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Which is fine...
But I still don’t see what that has to do with pre-game practice. It’s a pretty consistent routine across all levels of professional baseball.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 20, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It doesn't seem to me as if the Cubs do enough of it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
really? Maybe that is why they have faded
and came to ST not ready….a blind man could see this 10 miles away.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
A few years ago, didn't Sandberg note that Dusty's Cubs took no infield before games?
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
Which is EXACTLY why I included the caveat
“and I don’t know that it has any affect or not”
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Sortof, not just "old school" but actually old.
I guess my point was that even if the coaches do run drills, I don’t know how energetically or effectively they do it, being as old and out of shape as they are. That may not have as much effect in baseball as it does in a sport like football, but…..
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Um...
We’re getting into a really funky area here, so I’m going to try and not go too far down this rat hole. But most coaches are still in solid enough condition to run baseball-related drills. I believe Ivan Dejesus is still manning the the fungoe for the Cubs on most days, and I’ve personally seen him blast infielders (cough, Castro, cough) to the point where I thought their hands would be swollen shut on a few occasions.
I can respect those who wish for a more contemporary manager, but they usually bring along seasoned coaches anyway, and I don’t think it affects the quality of pre-game preparation either way. Just food for thought.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 20, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not that funky an area if you don't make it one
My question was rather simple. I asked if we had any coaches under the age of 50, and commented that it SEEMED like all of our coaches are either very rickety, or pretty fat.
The Dejesus story was a fine reply and basically answered my question. For the third time…..I straight up SAID I didn’t know whether it had an effect, simply something that occurred to me.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand,
I wasn’t picking on you, mate.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 20, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
DeJesus throws BP most days.
So you’re saying he does fungo drills BEFORE this?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
As I recall
It’s usually either DeJesus or Sinatro that end up running those drills. How they handle that schedule I can’t speak to.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 20, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Don’t know about fly balls to the outfielders, but he’s definitely hitting grounders to the infielders before BP starts.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Note:
the “last eight years.” Toothpick McDoubleswitch is also guilty.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 20, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, "Toothpick McDoubleswitch" isn't screwing the team up on a daily basis
so my dislike for him is extremely blunted.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
At least we are acting as a spoiler
for the teams we’re not playing.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Nah.... he's just looking on the bright side of life....
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
what a fun song!
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Life's a piece of sh##, when you look at it....
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
Best closing musical number in film history.
Second may be Blazing Saddles’ “The French Mistake”.
Dead last – Celine Dion’s shriek alarm impersonation to close Titanic.
sorry
but it was whitney houston in the bodyguard
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Aug 20, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I've really tried to hang in this year...
But I got so disgusted in the 9th inning today I actually shut the game off, and its the first time I’ve done that all year. This team lacks fundamentals, discipline, fire, et al… I know I’ll subject myself to watching or listening to the remainder of the games, but things really need to change.
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Aug 20, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
On the bright side
I think this team will be better next year. So there’s my contribution of optimism.
I'm trying to think that way.
The team isn’t fun to watch…you always have the feeling they will blow it no matter what long before today.
Having said that, I don’t understand why people still get pissed at Lou or most times at the players during the game…Many to most on here wanted a fire sale of everyone possible and now that Hendry has done that for the most part, it’s kind of hypocritical to worry about the team fielded minus Lilly, Lee, Fonty, Riot, etc. They are super young and have a lot of rookies…they will be erratic and suck, even more than before. Not fun to watch but certainly expected.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 20, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Much of the angst
has to do with watching Hill and Fukudome and Nady and Baker taking away playing time from the youngsters,
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Baker?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Kinda weird to see him in a Braves uniform and bat against Dempster though
"I knew there had to be a place where the game could be fun again. I found that place. It's called Wrigley Field. It reminded that if you love the game, it will love you back." - Andre Dawson, HOF speech 7/25/10
his performance at the plate was all to familiar this season
Why Cox hit him in cleanup is beyond me.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all
Bobby’s not as senile as Lou
~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will
by unretrofied93 on Aug 20, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
There’s a reason for that. Bobby. Cox. Is. Not. Lou. Piniella.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
well, technically, yes
since he put him in the middle of the order after watching him fail there all season.
I think its a symptom of being an old school manager. Cox is a better manager than Lou, but he still makes some of those old mistakes
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
"They say the glee team has lured stragglers into sniper traps with cheery renditions of hit songs." "Really? And people fall for that?"
by pygreg on Aug 20, 2010 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
what if you heard the cubs game on the radio?? (and whipped your hat on the ground when Marmol blew it)
by braziliancubsfan on Aug 20, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
you are smart
since you just invented a new pitching drill for Prior
Chronologically inept since 2060
"I could be writing this crap!" -- Crow T. Robot
that is awesome
rec #5 by me
Chronologically inept since 2060
"I could be writing this crap!" -- Crow T. Robot
You mean you've rec'd it five times?
How did you do that? What other accounts do you have?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he meant he was
the 5th person to rec’d the post.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
One thing the Braves did during batting practice struck me as useful. After each hitter took a few swings, he ran around the bases, practicing, it appeared, situational baserunning given what kind of hit the ensuing batter had. This strikes me as a useful tool to keep you grounded in fundamentals and situations. It is something the Cubs haven’t done in at least the last eight years. Also, Braves coaches were hitting fungoes to outfielders and ground balls to infielders.
Wow that’s just plain 100% wrong. I remember earlier in the year at Miller Park watching Alan Trammell hit grounders to all the infielders. I remember in 08/09 Matt Sinatro hitting with a fungo. That’s just plain wrong. The Cubs’ defense is terrible but it’s not because of that.
"Matt Capps is more valuable than Albert Pujols."---by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2010 9:35 PM PDT
by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 20, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions
Insinuations like that
Are Al’s way of putting as much responsibility for this dreadful season as he can on the manager. I don’t know whether he truly believes this type of stuff, or if it simply allows him to remain more optimistic about next season, because all the other culprits of this mess aren’t assured to be gone next year.
There's plenty of blame to go around.
But the manager and coaching staff have to bear their part of it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Of course they do
But you seem hell bent on exposing their part in all of this, while others are criticized much less.
Still that’s ridiculous why you would write that. I’m fine with ripping manager/coaches but telling lies to make a point is really not acceptable.
"Matt Capps is more valuable than Albert Pujols."---by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2010 9:35 PM PDT
by LouPiniellaIsRetiring on Aug 20, 2010 8:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Marmol
is just infuriating. I don’t care how many guys he K’s, those walks will destroy you. Hopefully we can get a pitching coach in the offseason that can work on the kids control and impress upon him how important strike 1 is. Getting behind all these guys begs for trouble. Ironically, he did get ahead of Ankiel. Glad I didn’t follow this game, and I feel for anyone that did.
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
Larry is going to be the pitching coach next season
Book it.
The only reason he wouldn’t be is if HE decided he no longer wanted to be here
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct.
This wasn’t Larry’s fault. I will say that I wish Larry would stop teaching his pitchers to “nibble”. They’ve been doing it for years. Challenge the damn hitter already.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
What I can't figure ...
is why Marmol challenged Lee and Cabrera, but nibbled to everybody else.
well, you can't it wasn't at least partly his fault if you're going to follow that up with
the bit about not wanting him to teach his pitchers to nibble.
I wasn’t saying I think he’ll be here because I necessarily want him here, or think he deserves to be here. I’m extremely unconvinced on Larry. However, Jimbo loves him and if Jimbo is here, Larry will be.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
abso-fricken-lutely
Big league hitters are too smart to swing at crap when they’re behind in the count.
Well, except for the Cubs…
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
Hear ya!
The root of the Cubs bullpen failures is that they walk way too many batters. Either they are all trying to paint the outside corner on every pitch, OR they are just NOT that good. It is so discouraging to see our bullpen come in and have trouble locating the strike zone. Most other teams don’t seem to have this problem as bad as we do.
These guys are professional pitchers who have had years to work on their delivery and their location, yet they stumble around like a HS kid in his first year pitching. Either they aren’t very good, or the pitching philosophy really stinks.
We seriously have to think out of the box and hire a bullpen coach who only works with the relievers. I know about Lester (the clipboard) Strode, but I am talking about an expert to teach bullpen guys how to pitch properly, get the all over the plate. for pete’s sake, I would rather they give up a few more hits, then watch this walk-fest continue every game.
This bullpen insanity has to stop!
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 20, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats been the issue for years
Cubs pitching in the top 5 of strikeouts, but also in walks.
Thats something I’d like the new regime to change, hopefully as they embrace advanced metrics.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
It's not so much advanced metrics...
… as it is throwing strikes and challenging hitters.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Advanced after Lou
would be anyone who can identify a OBP or WHIP.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Wonder what Mitch Williams is doing these days...
Manage a bowling alley or be the Cubs bullpen coach? Hmmm….
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
15 years ago, I wanted the Cubs to buy some of those shock training collars for bullpen pitchers
Give them a shock every time they threw a ball. Either they start throwing strikes or the team ends up with a group of relief pitchers with bad twitches.
Sure it's correct to say that they've lost 5 straight
It’s just misleading
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
This game almost made me cry.
I really was surprised by how excited I was when I came home and found that they were actually winning. Maybe it’s the realization that both my “babies” are off to college in a week that has me all emotional, but this one really hurt. I thought I didn’t care anymore.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
I feel the same way - much more PO'd than I thought I would/should be.
Kelly Sweet’s cover of “Dream On” just popped up on my iPod and this lyric make me think of the Cubs. “You gotta lose to know how to win.” So when are the Cubs gonna learn how to win?
If you haven’t seen this video, it might make you cry too. Just beautiful stuff…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua-4NUURZjg&feature=av2n
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
We sent one of
our first year college family members off to Iowa today. I’ve been on an emotional rollercoaster all day. Baseball was a second thought.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Congrats.
But why did they leave today? The dorms don’t open at MSU until next week! ;)
We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971
School starts Monday at Iowa.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I was in Iowa City on Monday
and there already appeared to be a ton of students back in town. Most of them appeared to be drinking.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Well it wasn't freshmen
because they can’t move in until today. I’m sure Iowa is the only university where students drink.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
That wasn't meant as a criticism
just an observation. Get your hackles down.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh bull. I know exactly
what you meant by it.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
What, Ms. Mindreader?
Enlighten me, please.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
But you claim to
know so much more than the rest of us I shouldn’t have to enlighten you.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Even a teacher can learn a few things
If you want to pick a fight, put ’em up. Otherwise, shut up.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Oooooh internet tough guy.
Your remark was a dig and you know it. You already told me to shut up want to call me an idiot or moron now? Isn’t that how most of your posts end?
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
It wasn't a dig
I don’t even know what it would be digging, frankly.
And I don’t have to call you anything. Your back-and-forth on this issue is doing all the work for me and is enough of a self-indictment. Congratulations!
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
If it wasn't a dig why
even bring it up? You seem to be a willing partner in this back and forth so the shoe fits you too.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I was surprised
there were that many kids on campus that early, if your kid didn’t leave for school until the weekend.
Whatever.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
So why include this?
Most of them appeared to be drinking.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Because
they were. No surprise, I guess, since school hadn’t started.
Believe me, I did my fair share of imbibing in college. I have no problem with it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
My daughter's best friend
just left for Iowa State. As she is an only child I was wondering how her folks were doing. I’m lucky. Even though both of mine will be going away, they are each only about 2 hrs. away.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
Our gal has a very good friend
going to Iowa State. Ou gal has always wanted to be a Hawkeye. It would have to be so hard to send your only child off to school let alone a school in another state. I feel for them.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I'm moving into my dorm tomorrow!
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Thanks
I’m kinda scared and excited at the same time
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Best time of your life - enjoy it!
You’re away from your parents and/or authority figures, and you don’t have to worry about working for a living – yet.
Party on Garth!!!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I plan on scouting the best places to go for the first couple of weeks..
Then I’ll slowly work my way into ever social group there, until I eventually become campus king.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Hey
I like “Your parents are spending a fortune-study hard!” better. :P My son will be downtown. You better not give him any ideas.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
okay - your way when the sun's up, my way when the sun's down. How's that?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Actually, shhh-dont' tell him, but
I’d be fine with that. I’m afraid he’s likely to hide in his room just sleeping and playing video games all the time. He’s quite the loner. A little partying might do him some good.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
My son is scared/exited too.
My daughter who went through it last year can’t wait.
Don’t forget to call home once in awhile. I gave my son a mug that says “Call your mother” to remind him. Problem is, he doesn’t drink coffee. Hope he remembers anyway.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
My mom will be a couple of minutes away..
so I’ll see her a lot. I don’t really know why I’m going to a dorm. I guess my mom is sick of me and my goonish ways.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
You'll be glad you lived in the dorms instead of off-campus freshman year
You meet 50-thousand times more people on-campus and it’s a lot easier to get chicks back to your dorm room than back to your mom’s house.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
assuming you'll write him a letter every now and then...
…make sure you reference an enclosed check – then don’t include the check. That’ll get him to call home, tout-suite.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Good luck!
Where are you going to school?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 21, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Western Kentucky University
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
You'll enjoy living on campus
It was my first big break away from home, and after a few weeks of missing my family and old friends I totally dug the weekend campus life.
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
Good luck to you.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Marmol.
Unfortunately this is the type of closer the Cubs have. I just can’t imagine Carlos shutting the door down in a close playoff game. 236 walks in 363 innings, that is not what you want in a closer on a pennant aspiring team. I love the guy, his stuff is unreal, but damn when he loses his command, he really loses it.
I just wish Lou would send out Colvin and Wellington to get some games in.
This team agravates me more than the 06 team. This team has quit, and has quit for a long while.
His K numbers a misleading....
the ONLY reason he strikes out so many batters is because so many of his pitches are OUT OF THE STRIKE ZONE. As soon as most teams realize this, today’s performance will be much more frequent.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats what helps
Thats what makes his slider so devastating, it appears to go right down the pipe then breaks outside of the corner. Like you said, it gets picked up by hitter, so then they sit back and watch it and laugh.
~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will
by unretrofied93 on Aug 20, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
You mean after last year hitters still didn’t know that Carlos was wild? Come on. I agree improved control is necessary if Carlos is going to be an elite closer, but he has been in the league for quite a while now. It’s not like the league is just now figuring him out.
by JSB on Aug 20, 2010 6:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I still don't know why anyone swings at his stuff.
Just wait it out, he’ll probably walk you. Or hit you.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
what did chip carey say
during the 7th inning stretch instead of “root for the cubbies”
sounded like he said root for the bravos but i didn’t get it
Heard it
i heard that too, sounded like he said bravos.
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by unretrofied93 on Aug 20, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
He said "the Bravos".
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I'd rather listen
to a farting orangutang for 3 hours, in person, than listen to Chip call a game…and it’s NOT because he’s with the Braves. I hated him when he called Cubs games too.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Just once I would like to hear this question at asked by the reporters to Lou....
Lou, why does it seem every year you find a few players, mainly younger ones, but not always, and not use them at all? Last year it was Fox and Hoff watching Scales play. And this was after Bradley and Soriano where out even.
This year its Baker, Fontenot, and Colvin. Can you say that Dome and Soriano are having great years? Good enough to play ahead of the future on a team going towards 90 losses quick?
Was Theriot so good that Fontenot could not have been given a chance to at least platoon? How about releasing Baker if he was never going to play and actually using the Roster spot?
I always wonder why the obvious questions are not asked by the Chicago media….
Wow.
These are very good questions indeed. And like you, I would wish that, just once, a reporter could be man enough to ask them.
However, they seem intent on asking the little cream-puff questions, which have easy answers. Just once, could they ask a tough question to Lou?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Rarely do the reporters do their real jobs.....
The Trid and Sun Times have gotten so bad, Carrie’s bland reporting does not stand out so much anymore.
+1000000.
Seems most of the questions are prearranged these days so that the hard questions never get asked.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's honestly a symptom of ALL media.
They’re more interested in getting access than getting information. They’re afraid if they grilled Lou on these questions, they would lose access to the team.
The explosion of the internet, and the emphasis on being FIRST has severely undercut the need to be correct.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
for a Husker you aint so dumb
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Probably because
The reporters don’t think it’s anything unusual.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
If that's to be addressed,
it’s probably better if a columnist does it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
As a reporter
would you be willing to miss the caviar plates?
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
No, I said Colvin was....
Baker and Fontenot may have been better options if given even a small chance instead of Theriot.
I would've appreciated
Fontenot getting a real everyday look at 2B, just to see if the playing 3rd was what made him struggle or if he really isn’t an every day guy.
But, thats about it.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Well for one Fontenot is not on the team so its pointless about him.
Baker should be traded, can’t believe he’s so valuable we’d end up regretting saving the money for the future. That leaves Colvin and he burned out with increased playing time in my opinion…but you do have a point about the players languishing on the bench.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 20, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
No doubt. Same goes with Nady pretty much.
I didn’t mean to start more let’s trade X stuff, I’ve seen way too much of that with bloated contracts already. To me seeing the rooks struggle so much just leads me to a get rid of all these vets that suck this year mentality. We suck anyway…its not like losing 5 more games makes a difference.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 20, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I'd like to hear
“Lou, how much do you daydream about the beaches in Ft. Lauderdale during a game? Can you ballpark it? 30? 40 times?”
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
My apologies to Al
I was coming to see you. My friends 5 year old was no match for the heat. I traded my bleacher seats out for upper deck. The 5 year old was done by the 7th inning. Me, I felt great going to the 9th, then, bam!. Right in the gut. Hard to believe a guy I saw as a pitcher in the minors at AA Arkansas, who’s now hitting .222 beat us like that today. Well, he did after the bases were loaded up on walks. I can’t honestly say if I’ll bother to buy a ticket for tomorrow, or just drive back to Iowa City in the am.
No worries.
Stick around. Who knows, maybe they’ll win tomorrow.
BTW, I did meet BCB’er cozmotaylor123 today. Nice to meet you, too.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I thought the lead was too good to be true
but good for Derrek that he is on a winning team again – he will forever be my favorite Cubs 1b-man (a little too young to remember Grace)
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Then you surely don't remember Kingman...my favorite.
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
You posted that without sarcasm?
The total # of games Kingman played at 1B as a Cub was eight.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I know...I realized he was talkin' about 1B...
I was referring to all time fave. My bad.
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
those 8 games were AMAZING
he should be the 1bman for next year
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Nope...Dunn's got that covered.
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
Im not sure I am 100% sold on him
his defense is improving but he will begin declining when the Cubs should really be starting to be contenders again…and then theres the other reason that is well known
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He's just short of 31...far from over the hill...
and I’m not sure what you mean by “other reason that is well known”.
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
K's
and figuring a 4 year deal I am simply worried the big boy will begin declining a little early
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I'm not sold on "far"
in the age of drug testing and emphasis on youth going on.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
The way everyone b&m'd about
someone else’s long ABs that consistently ended in Ks or BBs…
I’m NOT looking forward to Dunn. At all.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Your alternative would be?
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
Why is it
when someone says they wouldn’t like somoene they HAVE to have an alternative?
I don’t know.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Oh...sorry...sheesh...just thought you may have had someone in mind
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
Sorry
That was me being overly defensive.
Shouldn’t have reacted like that. Sorry.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
It's all good.
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
or HR's....
THE MAN HAS HIT 40 HOMERUNS EVERY SEASON FOR ALMOST THE LAST 8 YEARS.
The only reason he didn’t last year was playing a whole season in Washington’s park. HE GETS ON BASE AND HITS HR’S. Yeah…fuck this Dunn guy. Let’s find another Nady to play 1st base.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy sh*t!!!!
You agreeing with me?
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
no, it's exactly what you conveniently left out of your weak attempt at comparing Dunn to Milton Bradley.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
No
the REACTIONS will be the same the SECOND Dunn goes into a “its been 5 games since he homered” skid around here.
“Oh, damnit, he struck out AGAIN”.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Your crystal ball....where did you get it?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
When did you turn into
such an ass, SWL?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Aug 20, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
immediately after you became clarivoyant
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
you don't think this place
would have that reaction to a middle of the order guy who struck out 200 times?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Of course it would
The boos would drown out everything.
That said, I wouldn’t be averse to acquiring him.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I just said that
I wasn’t looking forward to that part of it.
But apparently that actually means “fuck him, he sucks”.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
what are you missing here
that is what that translates to on BCB…look at the discussion generated by me saying I am not 100% sold on him
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ya well your mom doesnt have a job
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In this economy...
that’s not rare.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
your mom's not rare...
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That's
extremely passive/aggressive.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 20, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
The Cubs could get 90% of the production of a Fielder or Gonzalez, at 50% of the price by locking in on him.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 20, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Good lord....
he strikes out a lot. A whole lot. BUNCHES AND BUNCHES.
But you know what a strikeout is? It’s an out. Yeah, just one. You know what OBP is? It’s a measure of how often a player DOESN’T MAKE AN OUT. Dunn’s career OBP is .381….Tony Gwynn’s career OBP is .388. I’m not comparing Dunn’s hitting ability to Gwynn’s…I’m showing you that people sometimes make a bigger deal out of K’s than they should.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a total idiot.
Thanks for reminding me why I wasn’t coming here for the last week.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
sorry you got butthurt
Dunn is most likely the best option for this team to have @ 1b for the near future…and not liking him because he strikes out a lot is a weak reason to be against signing him.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh my god
I said that I’m not looking forward to the reactions. And that I didn’t have another alternative.
Seriously? Am I writing English? Why is this so difficult to get across?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
you said...
I’m NOT looking forward to Dunn. At all.
I missed the “reactions to him” part. Sorry if I misunderstood your intentions.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
"After the way everyone
bitched and moaned about someone else’s long at bats that ended in walks or ks, I’m not looking forward to Dunn".
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I am not looking forward to that either
especially with 2 outs and risp…
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So you're not against signing him?
Especially if we can get him for a 2 year deal?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really, no
If they can get him for the right price, why not?
It’d be fun for the ballhawks at least.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Al least?
We would actually have a LH power bat that get’s to play.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Greater chances, and the ballhawks could be more spread-out.
They would then have to cover not only left field, but also right field!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Dunn's one of the few guys playing today
that could put an opposite-field homer completely out of Wrigley. Hasn’t happened yet with the new expanded bleacher configuration, but Dunn could do it.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
The thing is,
I’m not sure Dunn has quite the off-field problems that the other player you mentioned did.
And I really don’t care either way, I just hope the starting first baseman next year is someone who we can bring in.
If that’s Dunn, so be it.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
you're welcome...
Just part of the complimentary service.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 20, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand what you're saying...
If they sign Dunn they’ll understand that there’s going to be about 175 strikeouts that come with him. The man can flat out hit and hit with tremendous power…something this team hasn’t seen since “Boom Box” Sosa.
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
I wouldn't count on it if this year is any indication TJ
Take a look at his stats, especially with 2 out and RISP
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
all I am saying is
that I am on the fence – if Colvin can repeat what he has done this year next year then I am all for putting him at 1b and using the substantial savings to go after C Lee
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You won't get CLee.
What “substantial savings” are you talking about? Unless the Cubs can dump Fukudome or Zambrano, there won’t be enough for that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
rather than going after Dunn
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I know Dunn wont be getting the same $$$
but it would be a down payment…
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There may not be enough money to sign Lee
Unless the Cubs can also assemble a better lineup. I can’t imagine any starter eager to get into a situation where a 2.50 ERA gets you a .500 record.
Dunn averages a homerun about every 14 AB's.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
sadly he averages a k ever 4 or 5 AB
MUCH worse than Soriano or Rami. NO THANKS!
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"I could be writing this crap!" -- Crow T. Robot
the only you can hope for with a K
is that it takes at least 6 pitches to get there
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You can give me a guy who Ks 175 times a year
and hits 40+ HRs and 100+ RBIs with an OPS of over .900 anytime. Do you not see what are #3 and #4 hitters are doing this year?
Ron Santo - 8,143 ABs, .277 BA; 342 HR; 1331 RBI = NO Hall of Fame?
Brooks Robinson - 10,654 ABs, .267 BA; 268 HR; 1357 RBI = Hall of Fame.
Any more questions ?
oh snap
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
the #4 hitter
is nowhere near 175 K’s and Lee does have a 130ish average - you know what I am now fully sold on Dunn – his defense might be average next year (most likely just slightly below average) and we basically get 2009 Lee on the offensive side. Damn the K’s and full speed ahead
GETITDONEJIMBO
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A CONVERT! WELCOME TO THE DUNN SIDE!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
its good to be here
just like joining the “I Hate Lou” fanclub
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I believe many were complaining about Sosa's k rate
while he hit more HR and K’d less.
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As this team is obviously going nowhere (except, that is, for the cellar)...
…I can’t get too excited about a game like this one way or another. I would like to think though that the “powers the be” (such as they are, are taking careful notes and making some sort of plan to at least partially correct this disaster.
Marmol is what he is-an erratic, completely undependable closer. I know that he has a ton of defenders here but, seriously, the next person who tries to compare him to Mariano Rivera should have his sanity checked.
I would love to see the Cubs launch him as part of the house cleaning. He’s still young enough that he might be able to fetch something decent in return. Otherwise, I fear we’re looking at another long season next year of blown saves and gut wrenching losses.
Or
The light comes on and Marmol becomes even more devastating than he has shown he can be — 100 strikeouts in 55 innings this season, for example.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
More of that magical thinking.
I’ll give you one thing Bruce, you’re an optimist. You’re more willing to believe things will just turn around than continue down an obvious path mapped out by an obvious pattern.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah..."magical thinking"...and he calls Cub Fans psychotic.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm an optimist too, as you know.
Marmol has been lights-out before. There’s no reason he can’t be again.
Nevertheless… in the right deal, he might be tradable. We have had successful closers who have had good makeup without devastating stuff (Joe Borowski, for one).
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I don't see how it's "magical thinking"
The guy is unhittable, for the most part. He just needs better control.
I just think no closer short of Rivera would please most Cubs fans.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not suprising. You don't have a very high opinon of Cub fans.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Not universally
and I like almost all the ones I know personally.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
hilariously, I was just going to post that you like the ones who agree with you
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
shocking
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, if most Cubs fans are like the ones around here,
I think most people of sound mind and body might find them onerous.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
FTFY
Well, if most Cubs fans are like Not Bruce,
I think most people of sound mind and body might find them onerous.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Maybe we’re both right.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
If he were here,
azjazzman would contend you’re both wrong.
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
by Goodie1969 on Aug 20, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's probably the one person
Who can unite all of us at BCB on any issue, no matter what it is.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
He definitely helped us come together last night.
Some of those remarks had me laughing out loud, especially the “you’ll fit right in!” remark from Gibbon Jockey.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It's magical thinking because you believe it's just as likely that Marmol
will suddenly learn how to throw strikes consistently after showing an ability to do that over the course of his career.
The guy isn’t unhittable, he showed that today. He also showed you don’t need to be able to string multiple hits together to beat him.
And honestly, whether you want to believe it or not, most fans understand we aren’t going to get Mariano Rivera. Asking for someone who doesn’t present a 9th inning adventure damn near every time he takes the mound isn’t unrealistic
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh
I would take Wagner, a healthy Nathan, Soria, Papplebon, Wilson and Bell to name a few off the top of my head.
We did last year.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
3 ER in 27
post season innings, that all in one game in 2008. I would take the guy, sure he is a tool, but he throws strikes and has pitched in big games.
sure hes good if you look past the fact that hes overrated, has declining peripherals, and gets himself into as many jams as marmol does
by jesus christos on Aug 20, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Marmol doesnt get into Jams
he gets into Marmolade’s….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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by hansman1982 on Aug 20, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh, that one is so bad, we're gonna have to break out the canned laughter...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
What I worry about is that control has been a repeating issue for several years
And he still hasn’t fixed it. Does that mean he can’t or can’t without losing some of his ball movement? Relief pitchers, especially closers have to come out and throw strikes. If he can’t get to that point, it is a serious flaw.
He has a lot of moving parts in his pitching motion. That may contribute the movement on his slider but also make a repeating motion (control) hard to achieve. I would hope there is someone in the organization who can work with Marmol on mechanics to give him better command of his pitches.
Yes, and all due respect Al, but you invest in magical thinking as well
to my knowledge you haven’t offered up any reasoning for why the Cubs have a chance to be real contenders next year, other than they’ve done it in the past.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a big part of it.
I will talk more about this when the season is over.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Well, I know what you mean.
But there is still baseball to be played.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
If you get
a good year from Soriano and Ramirez, a full season of Castro and Colvin, Byrd performs simalarily, the rotation is ok, get some help in the pen and Dunn, I would say this team can be a contender – again everything has to go right, ala 2008, but it is possible with a new manager that can friggen play guys that should be played (although Fukudome is the hot hand in RF right now)
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As I posted above
236 walks in 363 innings, that is not elite closer material. The K’s are great, they bail him out on occasion, however he has to many melt downs like today to become a pennant winning closer.
Marmol is young and reletively inexpensive.
I see no reason to trade him unless you get some great prospects or players for him I don’t think possible. He isn’t hamstringing the team. No, of course he isn’t Mariano Rivera so why even worry about that…who is. He’s wild and erratic at times…unless you can find someone with a lot of potential, young and consistent…this seems to me to be much ado about nothing.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 20, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs were gone fishing in February and stayed there
this train wreck will only get worse until the bosses come in and stop it.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
and I think alot of that
is going to have to be contracts working their course…
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According in the comments
of the recap in Yahoo sports ( Lou quoted) Colvin will be playing some firstbase in the series in Washington. I guess sort of like Wellington getting some starts
9th inning
defensive replacement here we come!
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I think Riot left Koyie
the pictures he had of Lou.
Its a little ridiculous.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
+1
Not sure why Lou is ignoring Castillo.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I completely believe this!
I also believed Lou when he said Colvin was going to get 3 starts at the week at the beginning of the season.
I also believed Lou when he said Colvin would be back in the lineup 3 days ago.
So Lou has my total trust!
I have a bridge I can sell you
The tolls from people traveling between Manhattan and Brooklyn will make you rich!
He doesn't want Colvin to start playing 1B at home
because he’ll be under less pressure on the road.
I completely understand and agree.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, and also..
…. it’s against a noncontending team.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Good point
This way it really doesn’t affect anything if Colvin screws up.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
you realize I'm basically disagreeing with you?
It doesn’t matter whether he screws up when we’re playing contenders or other losing teams. His screwups do not matter to us one way or the other
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not how I interpreted what you wrote
I think they would want a better effort against contenders.
But you know if he messes up something at first base at home, the fans would be all over him like flies on crap.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Some would, most wouldn't
because anyone who was there to actually watch the game would understand it was his first time at first base since college.
But stick with the broad generalizations, they work for you
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think it's a broad generalization
I still remember what happened with Castro. Apparently Lou does, too.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
and you see how well Fox is playing now. Oh, wait …
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
So, because hasn't panned out ...
Colvin shouldn’t get playing time?
No
I’m just saying a lot of this is much ado about nothing.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
what exactly is much ado about nothing?
I don’t even think you know what point you’re trying to make anymore
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they have a reasonable idea
of what Colvin can and can’t do offensively.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
So NOT Bruce and I agree that Colvin does not need to play any more.
We need to find what Soriano and Dome can do offensively and defensively. We can’t possibly know that after the last 3 years…
NOT Bruce is the shining beacon of light in a dark cavern of lonliness!!!!
So does Lou
I think you’re both wrong. And this season backs me up far more than it does you and Lou.
The Club didn’t even think Colvin was going to make the team out of the spring, but he had a great spring and did. Then they thought his tools would only lend him to being a 5th outfielder. He got some playing time and is second on the team in homers despite limited playing time.
The first rough patch the kid hits, he gets benched. How ANYONE can claim they know what Colvin can or can’t do is mind boggling and quite frankly, based on nothing other than preconceptions.
I’m not saying he’s the second coming. I was very skeptical of him at the beginning of the season, but it is absolutely ASININE to claim we should just bench him because we “know” what he can do.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't know
what goes on behind closed doors, hc.
I can’t believe you and a few others here are treating this as if someone came into your house and murdered your family.
Chill out.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, that response doesn't even make sense
But you’re resulting to your usual tricks of needing to “calm down” when I’m not remotely worked up and I know where this conversation is going to go from there.
What exactly is it that could be going on behind closed doors that would lead to Colvin getting benched? Do you think he punched Lou in the face? Took a pee in the corner of his office?
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
You go on and on about this every day
So I’d say yes, you are worked up about it. More than you should be.
But I guess you have to be, to fall into the Cubs-fan ethos of “I bitch, therefore I am.”
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So you are saying Colvin should sit because we have seen enough of him to know what we need to know.
Correct?
I'm saying I'm not going to go on a jihad
if he doesn’t play as much as some bozos on an Internet chat board think he “should” play. I didn’t realize baseball executives hung out here.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
YAY I was waiting for Bruce to bring the REAL hyperbole
to show up!
See Shoemile, I told you someone did hyperbole better than me.
Has ANYONE said anything other than we think Lou is dumb for not playing Colvin? Is that really akin to proclaiming a Jihad? Really?
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
you know what would get me to stop?
If Colvin actually played once in a while. If I go on about it every day, do you know what that means? (I’ll hold your hand and walk you through this) It means that Colvin is getting no playing time, for absolutely no discernible reason.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Reasonable idea
289 ab’s and they have him figured out offensively, no wonder this team is so well coached.
The point is
He is not being “hindered” like some people think Jake Fox was. Colvin is better than Fox. That’s evident on its face.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
BRUCE.
Stop it. Stop defending Lou to defend Lou. Stop being stubborn because you want to be stubborn. Stop refusing to acknowledge that your boy Lou is DEAD wrong here.
You and I get along pretty well, so believe me when I don’t say this to be a jerk to you. There is no reason that Tyler Colvin, a part of this team’s future, a bright spot in a disaster of a season, shouldn’t be getting some starts over a freaking week.
There is NO way to justify Lou’s actions. There’s no reason why Colvin could not have started at least twice in the past week. None of the other outfielders are hitting that well. Not all of them are being showcased.
And this is NOT much ado about nothing. That’s your last line defense. You KNOW you’re wrong (I’m pretty sure you do) so you just say it doesn’t matter.
It DOES matter. It matters to the fans, it matters to the future of this team. Lou is making brain dead/stubborn decisions.
You should know better than to do the same.
I don't think I am, eg
I think the Cubs know exactly what Colvin can and can’t do.
You and I aren’t privy to the decision-making processes at work here. There may be some things neither of us know about that are affecting who is playing when and where.
Frankly, it doesn’t matter to me how much or how little Colvin plays the rest of the season. He’s proven he can do the job. Maybe this will enable some other guys to be traded before Aug. 31.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
When your only defense is ...
“we don’t know what the Cubs know,” your argument doesn’t carry much weight to me. I’m done discussing the matter.
And, again, Colvin could be playing while Nady and Fukudome are also playing — so you’re showcasing argument is completely without merit.
I’m done with this topic. You’re SO wrong Bruce.
OK - but I would hope he is back in the field full time Sep 1
Or if a miracle happens and the team manages to move Fukudome.
I do hope that Colvin has had to chance to work with Jaramillo on pitch recognition and staying back on breaking balls. Based on what I have read, that may have been the first reason Colvin was out for more than one game.
But there is no good reason Castillo isn’t catching at least half of the games. The more Hill plays, the harder it will get to trade him.
exactly
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Jake Fox is awesome!
I’m so glad the A’s were kind enough to cut him and allow him to go to Baltimore! He’s an OBP machine with a glove made of silk! MacPhail made a great decision there!
Hope I’m doing it right.
Not Bruce is missing the point as usual
I bring up Fox because of a pattern of behavior from Lou.
Fox was nowhere near the prospect Colvin is.
But the team was not hitting, and the guy was decent. Lou completely stopped playing him for some reason. Even when all of the guys ahead of him went away. Then they brought up an aging minor league IF to play instead. So I see old players again playing ahead of a much bigger prospect. One who has 18 HR. And wonder why JH is allowing this to happen again.
He was so decent
He’s just about totally off the big-league radar.
Try again, TJ.
And calling him a “much bigger prospect” shows your baseball ass, again.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyler Colvin is most decidedly a bigger prospect
than Jake Fox was. That’s not even debatable.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
at mistating others' statements
to fit his narrow, ignorant view of the world
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You intimated Fox was a "much bigger prospect"
than anybody else last year, you bloody, psychopathic moron.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
"I see old players AGAIN
playing ahead of a much bigger prospect."
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
no, that's what you took away from it.
He CLEARLY laid out that Fox was better than the guys who were playing ahead of him at the end of the year (Scales), and that Colvin is now getting the same treatment despite being a bigger prospect.
Reading comprehension is key dude.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Try to WRITE, brain stem
Or maybe you should go back to using 1,000 exclamation points. Or maybe 999, and stick one up your ass.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
he wrote just fine.
You simply took what you wanted from it. As usual
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody who thinks Jake Fox was all that good
doesn’t need to be watching baseball.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, that's an interesting way to completely change the subject
while simultaneously showing how just how far his point sailed over your head.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I got his point just fine
Maybe you guys can carry pitchforks and torches to Ricketts’ office and demand him to make a statement on why Colvin isn’t playing 12 innnings a game.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Cubs want to see if he can play first
Then they need to dedicate themselves to that immediately. The Cubs are likely going to go after Dunn if they don’t think Colvin can hack it out there, which is something they only have 6 weeks to find out.
by shoemile on Aug 20, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Green'ed.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing like backing up a broad generalization with an irrelevant comparison
Castro wasn’t playing his first game as a shortstop in a couple of years.
Castro also continued playing and got better.
Also, expectations were very different when Castro came up. We were still in contention and losses mattered. Expectations are VASTLY different at this point in the season.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not irrelevant, apparently,
because it appears the Cubs aren’t playing Colvin at first in this series in part because of what happened with Castro.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a conclusion only you've drawn
and applied it to the thinking of the Cubs. Again, a broad generalization
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Apparently I'm not the only one who's drawn it
It looks like the Cubs have drawn that conclusion, too. Multiple radio reports in Chicago today said there would be less pressure for him on the road. I"m not making it up.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
So a bunch of talk radio guys made a conclusion
Well color me convinced.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
No, not talk radio guys
Reports on what Lou and others said to reporters.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, then I'll need to switch gears and just say
that Lou trying to blame the fans for his dumb decisions is disappointing. I’ll take your word for it that Cubs brass actually said it, and not just more speculation that you agree with
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Not speculation
And I think Lou’s got an excellent point.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I know you do
It’s why I don’t think you’re all that bright
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I stay out of the game threads
because they’re even more ridiculous than these threads are.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
why is everyone so caught up on how the fans will react to players?
Just get players that can play and let them.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Some means one game.
And that will probably be his only start over a two week period.
by HuskerCorner on Aug 20, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
...
“We’re going to win here, and that’s the end of the story.” – Lou Piniella
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
Thank goodness!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
First!.....so when do the Cubs start playing?
ugh, not funny :(
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Even tho we went to the post-season
two years in a row, this just points out the fact of how this team has been so poorly constructed over the last 5 years.
Win now and pay the piper later. Now we begin to pay.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 20, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldnt say poorly constructed
just built for a short run – realistically it should have been 3 years in a row had Rami and Soriano not had injuries
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Armando Galaraga has a perfect game through 4 innings
and MLB TV actually just flashed a bio of the first base umpire.
I am sure ESPN
has already started cutting to the game…
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When a Blue Jay pitcher (I think?) had a no hitter through 8 a month or so ago
Espn didn’t switch to it. Maybe they got too many complaints from fans of whatever program/event was pre-empted.
no, its just that they dont care about the Blue Jays
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Exactly
ESPN doesn’t broadcast in Canada. Although TSN, the Canadian equivalent, is almost exactly like ESPN.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, and...
… thanks for the email with this graphic. I might use it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I think you might find a few BCB avatars change to look like this soon...
We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971
Well, I've found a category in which the Cubs lead the league
Most creative at finding ways to lose winnable games.
I really feel bad for Demp — he deserved the chance to bring that one home.
Also, thanks to Chip for stumping for Ron’s HOF bid… classy thing for him to do.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Shocked!
I was busy at work and a co-worker/fellow Cubs fan IM-ed – “Marmol walks 3 and then strikeouts 3.” My friend was checking the yahoo box score which had (and still does) the following inning recap:
Top 9th: Atlanta
- S. Fuld in left field
- C. Marmol relieved R. Dempster
- M. Prado walked
- D. Lee struck out swinging
- B. McCann walked, M. Prado to second
- D. Hernandez ran for B. McCann
- A. Gonzalez walked, M. Prado to third, D. Hernandez to second
- M. Cabrera struck out swinging
- R. Ankiel struck out swinging
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Atlanta 2, Chi Cubs 3
I don’t know which is worse, the Cubs actual 9th inning or yahoo’s fantasy recap of it.
This just ruined my dinner. ugh.
"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas
Struck out swinging - 3-run triple to right - it's all the same...
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
As of now (9:18 am Sat) Yahoo still hasn't changed it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
♬ ♪ Here's a little song I post
At least our leader’s, not Ned Yost…
Don’t worry, be happy
In every season, we have some trouble
For one Cub, it was clutching double
Don’t worry, be happy
We sent the Riot out to LA
And then Fontenot to the Bay
Don’t worry, be happy
Tyler homers, almost at twenty
That’s ok, Dome still plays plenty
Don’t worry, be happy
Soto’s out, we call up Castillo
Doesn’t matter, we’ll still play Hill-o
Don’t worry, be happy
For the Cubs, Ted’s 3 and 8
But with LA, he’s won 4 straight
Don’t worry, be happy
Everybody happy now….
(whistling solo)
♫ ♪ ♬ ♩ ♫ ♪ ♬
Whoever said, first do no harm,
Never saw our bullpen arms
Don’t worry, be happy
Just when you thought, it couldn’t get worse
You see the lineup, Nady’s at first
Don’t worry, be happy
Today at Wrigley, DLee is a Brave,
We had the lead but Marmol blew save,
Don’t worry, be happy
Dempster threw, great for eight
Another loss, that’s Cubbie fate
Don’t worry, be happy.
Another loss, when will we learn?
That’s it for me, it’s now your turn
Don’t worry, be happy
Everybody happy now….
(whistling solo)
♫ ♪ ♬ ♩ ♫ ♪ ♬
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Aug 20, 2010 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
excellent!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 20, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
That's very good.
Cubs should bring Bobby McFerrin to the ballpark tomorrow to sing it in the 7th inning instead of TMOTTBG.
"All I'm asking for is what I want." -- Ricky Henderson
by sweetswinger on Aug 20, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd.
Though I almost flagged it at first by accident.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think it's pretty good
Rec’d, BH.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he needs to play
as much as you and some others need to play, that’s all. I mean, he’s no Jake Fox, that’s for sure.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
No he is not. Colvin is a big part of our future. But you are fine, as Lou, Tom, and Jim, are with seeing Dome, Soriano, and Nady play everyday.
Because according to you, we already know what we have in Colvin.
I guess we still have to find out what he have in the other 3, because there is no way we could know that by now.
It will suck for you when they lose Lou since you both think so much alike.
I thought rooting for the team to lose was wrong?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 20, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Chicago Bears Backup QB Syndrome
is rife around here today.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinda seems like you're talking in circles here, NBF
By claiming Colvin doesn’t need to play because he’s a known commodity and then comparing it to the backup QB syndrome, which is based on the unknown.
Can I just say, claiming someone doesn't need to play, because we know he's good
has got to be one of the stupidest arguments I’ve ever heard?
by HuskerCorner on Aug 21, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
That's not really what I'm saying
but whatever.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 21, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Everyone complains about tickets being overpriced
But when you sign a showstopper like Rudy Jaramillo, what do they expect?
This may be a close second...?
Of all the jaw-dropping losses this season, this one might be the jaw-droppingest.
To me, the July 17th game was jaw-droppinger. Also set up by Marmol walk-itis, but then that dropped ball by Soto of what would have been the game-ending out.
Not only that, but Marmol could have easily come right back after that and recorded the third out.
It would have been 1-1 going to the bottom of the ninth.
I was at Wrigley Field that day, in the Terrace Reserved section. My view:
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that July 17 game was similar to this.
One caught ball away from a win, or one strike away?
And death is not an option.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
IIRC, I think it was both.
I seem to remember Marmol having a two-strike count on the Philadelphia batter (I don’t remember who it was, sorry) before that missed catch by Soto.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinals Sunday night game on July 25 was just as bad in its own way.
All the RISPs and LOBs. Then Schlitter coughs up a two-out 10th inning game winning HR to Lopez. I thought that was the Cubs last gasp, and it exemplified what’s been wrong the whole year.
"All I'm asking for is what I want." -- Ricky Henderson
It is hard to pick one thing
that epitomizes what went wrong this year. Bullpen meltdowns, lack of RISP hitting, defensive ineptitude, TOOTBLANs…
The first two
probably are the killers, with lack of RISP hitting being No. 1.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 20, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I would agree with that
The TOOTBLANs and shoddy defense are glaring when they happen but they haven’t really cost us that many games. Un-clutch hitting was our undoing.
I would actually say the defense has been the killer
We lead the league with 97 errors, and of course unearned runs allowed. This is going to happen when you have a 19 yr old SS and a rookie RF, especially in RF. Horrible defense gets my vote.
"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."
by louslovechild on Aug 20, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Horrid defense
definitely don’t help the offense or bullpen.
But picking one of the fatal flaws on this list is like… a really difficult metaphor I can’t invent at th emoment.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
But it's Spring Training in August!
What fun! Where else can you watch so many AAA guys, besides Iowa. But maybe not even there because I think they’re all here! And when the roster expands … my goodness! No need to pay all that money to travel to AZ next spring. And if it’s Spring Training in August, the games don’t count!! Even more fun! Okay, so the Cubs’ regular closer walked about a bazillion guys. He’s at Spring Training in August, too! He’ll figure out when to use the slider and when to use the fast ball. Just give him another couple of years.
But since it’s Spring Training in August, maybe the Cubs should roll back ticket prices to Spring Training in August levels. Or, since that would be unfair to season ticket holders and those who were silly enough to buy a bunch of tickets back during wrist band days … how about a free food day! Or a two-for-one deal! Show your ticket and we’ll give you two more, FREE! That way even season ticket holders can get more tickets to bring more friends to Spring Training in August! Roll back beer prices! Dollar beers! No. That would make Wrigley Field and Wrigleyville even uglier. But let’s keep thinking. D-Lee only comes back to town once, even though he never really actually left but just kinda waited for his new team to get here.
Why are these guys smiling? Because it’s Spring Training in August! What fun!
One of Lee Elia's 15%
TJ11?
Is that you?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 20, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoo-hoo
Cubs on Fox tomorrow!!!
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 20, 2010 11:31 PM CDT reply actions
and we can watch Spring Training in August! What fun!
One of Lee Elia's 15%
by waiting4cubs on Aug 20, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't know if you saw it in the early game threads Al...
but we started a Dome Telethon to take up collections to help Jim Hendry unload Dome in the offseason. Our final haul was:
$6.54, 2 guitar picks, hansman1982’s belly button lint, a half eaten bag of potato chips, a leaf of pot, 52.6 gallons of German beer, a 1993 lime green Geo Metro, an empty bottle of kombucha, an old DSL modem, two Pilots, an extra Palm Pilot stylus, a Brett Michaels bobblehead, an Android Invader collectable figurine, two Harold Reynolds and Greg Luzinski autographed baseballs, a slightly used Vera Wang handbag, 17 slightly chewed small yellow chicks, a box of miscellaneous Star Wars characters, a Jabra BT4010, tube of Sea & Sea O-Ring grease, 3 cans of Hormel Spam, an Eric Patterson autographed miniature bat, the Spring 2010 issue of Alert Diver magazine (with 2 joke covers), a $5 Billion German Mark certificate (=$5 Trillion U.S.) and a partridge in a pear tree…"
We’re all mailing JH our pledges.
Git ’er dun, Jimbo!
We have met the enemy and they are us! ~ Walt Kelly, Pogo, 1971
Tell you what.
I’ll throw in my Corey Patterson autographed ball. Think that will tip the balance?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'll throw in my Sammy Sosa autographed ball.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 21, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
how??????????
did this team that left spring training become the 06 cubs. if hendry thinks this team is 4 moves away from contending he is out of his mind. and mr ricketts you better spend some money and fix this or you will be seeing a lot more empty seats next year.
well, if they're four BIG moves, we easily could be contending next year
1. Sign Cliff Lee
2. Trade for Zack Greinke
3. Sign Adam Dunn
4. Sign/trade for best available bullpen arm
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
That would do it, but it would require Ricketts to up the payroll budget by about $20M
Or Hendry to move some big-$ guys for serious salary relief. I’d love to see it, but it doesn’t seem likely.
It's because we dropped Chad Tracy
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Kevin Millar
he was the clubhouse presence we desperately needed
by HuskerCorner on Aug 21, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Millar, at least, would have been funnier than Tracy
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
It's because we didn't call up Sam Fuld soon enough.
Oh wait…
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 21, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Save situation
I understand academically why Lou felt he had to bring Marmol in for the 9th. He’s the closer, it was a close game, and Marmol doesn’t get many chances nowadays to do his job.
But from a trying to win the game standpoint, it was a bad move. Dempster was pitching very well, having no issues, and could have easily come back out to finish. Marmol could have warmed up in case he was needed.
Hindsight is everything, I realize, and if Marmol had struck out the side 1-2-3 I wouldn’t be writing this.
It just bugs me when a guy gets taken out of a game for no real reason, and then the next guy blows it up.
"They found a delivery in my flaw." - Dan Quisenberry
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