MLB Attendance Drops: Cubs vs. Nationals Preview, Tuesday 8/24, 6:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Aug 24, 2010 4:00 PM CDT
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PrintToday's Tribune dead-tree edition had, in its MLB standings, a team-by-team comparison of this year's attendance to last year's. This isn't online so I can't provide a link, but here are some of the highlights:
- The only team that is significantly above last year's attendance is the Twins (+10,468 per game), and that is largely due to their slick new stadium.
- 16 teams are down in average, ranging from -196 per game (Athletics) to -6,092 per game (Mets). The Cubs are down 1,518 per game and that number is likely to increase as September arrives.
- The 13 teams besides the Twins that are up range from +159 per game (Cardinals) to +2,698 per game (Rockies).
Now, what's missing from the list of teams that are up? Contending teams, besides the Cardinals, who are almost at par with last year, and the Twins. The Braves, riding high in first place, are up slightly (+393 per game), but drew only 9,510 more for an entire three-game home series last week than the crowd that saw them play on one day last Saturday at Wrigley Field. The Rays, who are tied for the best record in baseball, are down 1,388 per game from last year (when they missed the playoffs), and during their three-game sweep over the AL West first-place Rangers averaged 18,629 per game. The contending White Sox are down 796 per game. The Padres, running away with the NL West, are up only 1,517 per game even though they have thousands of seats every game that cost $27 or less.
Baseball teams may have finally priced their product too high, such that in an economic recession people won't go even to see a winning team. It's a cautionary tale, I think. I will have more to say about Cubs attendance when I see how the next homestand draws.
The Nationals, for their part, are 14th in the NL in attendance, averaging 24,029 a game, and last night's announced total of 17,921 was their 15th smallest of the season.
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John Lannan is 2-1, 3.46 in four career starts vs. the Cubs, including a no-decision in a 4-3 Cubs win at Wrigley Field on April 26. Lannan has had a tough year and actually spent some time in Triple-A this year. That's not a misprint -- he has more walks than strikeouts in 2010. Current Cubs, though, are only 11-for-47 (.234) against him with no home runs.
Carlos Zambrano has one appearance vs. the Nationals this year in relief. Z is getting his starting numbers in order; his ERA is still 5.16 as a starter, but it's 2.70 in the three starts since his return from the restricted list. The walks are still a concern -- 15 in 16.2 innings in his those three outings. Adam Dunn has faced him most -- 13-for-60 (.217), but seven of those 13 hits are home runs.
Cubs lineup via tweet from CubsInsider:
#Cubs lineup @ #Nationals (8/24): DeWitt 2B, Castro SS, Nady 1B, Ramirez 3B, Baker RF, Soto C, Soriano LF, Colvin CF, Zambrano P
Nats lineup via tweet from NatsTownNews:
#Nationals vs. #Cubs - Morgan 8, Kennedy 4, Zim 5, Dunn 3, Bernadina 7, Pudge 2, Morse 9, Gonzalez 6, Lannan 1
Today's game is on WGN and MASN. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Nationals site Federal Baseball.
Today's first pitch thread will be up at 6 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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As we were discussing elsewhere
The Braves don’t draw during the week due to high prices, they fail to draw because their local fanbase (ones who can easily make the stadium from work or home), minus families whose kids are back in school, is not that large. If they had a choice in the matter, it would be best for their attendance numbers to schedule their high-profile opponents (Cubs, Phils, Mets) on weeknights during the school year and leave the Nats and Rockies for the weekends. Those weekend games are going to draw no matter what, even if it’s Braves-Pirates.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That's where he batted yesterday, no?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
why are we
sending Sori a message?
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119
Because of Crown Point Bob.
If we don’t send Soriano a message, we’ll all end up with nastygrams about him in our email inboxes.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
If only his name were Soriani...
…then he’d an Italian loafer…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Of course baseball has priced itself out
Add in a rotten economy, a brutally hot summer in a lot of places and dozens of other options and I’m surprised attendance didn’t fall further.
Plus, with HD TVs becoming more reasonably priced, it really is not as much fun to go to the game as it used to be.
Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein
A fine point
My job has me located in LA right now so whenever the cubs come out to Dodger i must catch at least 1 game. 1 game that is terribly expensive. Even for week days to catch a non-marquee game you think it would be a little bit cheaper but for friends and i to go it runs 50 a ticket minimum + 25 parking and 10 beers, so we’ve started setting up our 2 HDTV on our deck with a grill and an awning and enjoying the games outside, where beer and food are cheap and there is no hassle anymore
~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will
by unretrofied93 on Aug 24, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget other bells and whistles
With TiVo, you can pause the game and (my favorite) you can let the game play for about an hour while you drink beers with buddies, or if you’re flying solo, getting other crap done, and then watch the game while zipping through commercials.
You’ve got replay to look at close calls, announcers to enjoy or mock, and the beer is $12 a case instead of $10 a beer.
Plus, you’re home, so you can drink yourself silly. You can go to bed as soon as the last out is recorded instead of going home.
Baseball, bless its traditionalist butt, is still a great experience in person. I’m surprised anyone ever attends a football game.
Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein
damn
You’ve talked me out of ever going to the ballpark again.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Beautifully put
my roommates and i actually enjoy our weekend baseball session more than a trip to the ballpark for all the reasons above, but you left out one major one
we don’t have to sit with a bunch of rude, heckling, loud, annoying fools who wont let us enjoy a game in peace
~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will
by unretrofied93 on Aug 24, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a possible solution for this issue
But it’s percolating in my feverish little mind. In the meantime, I’d suggest finding out which section is the “alcohol-free family section” and plunk down there. In Wrigley, I believe it’s Section 101.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 24, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL!
You don’t need to look at the sky for the constellations anymore!!!!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here, but a little cheaper
that’s why when the Cubs come into town, I can only afford to go to one game. For me and my wife to go, it’s a $120 night. No way would I go to an entire series. I would like to, but that other $240 pays my electric bill in the summer lol
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Season Tickets
I have always said the only way to really move up on the season ticket waiting list is a really bad season and a bad economy. We have both.
I see that the Cubs website has updated the waiting list. I don’t know how much movement is due to the Tribune releasing tickets, people not renewing or people not taking the offer to buy. I moved up 2600 spots since last year.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
So how many are now on the list?
Anyone want to try to sign up and find out for us?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
115645.
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 24, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
That's more than I would have expected.
Thanks for the info.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
its been about that
for nearly 3 years - I signed up in the Spring of 2008 and was around 100,000 (thankfully they finally did send my wait list number that I had signed up for in the Fall of 2006 where I was 36,000
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119
But do you have to *DO* anything to stay on the list?
If not… there may be a whole lot of those who would no longer have any intention of actually buying the seats.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
Exactly.
No, once you’re on the list, you stay there.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
OK
Then I’m not really surprised by the number… it would be interesting to know the unknowable “real” number of how many of those actually would make a purchase, if offered the opportunity.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
The Cubs could probably find out....
… by charging a small annual fee, say $50, to stay on the list. Maybe give everyone who pays that the chance to buy a small number of tickets (2-4) ahead of the general sale.
I’d bet the list would drop by half.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah but I wouldn't pay 50 bucks to find out where i stand on the list
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 24, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not what the idea of it is.
It’s to make $, give a small perk, and cut the list down.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Why cut the list down?
The list will cut itself down when people are asked to put their hard-earned cash on the line when their number comes up. If they aren’t deceased when it happens, that is.
"I knew there had to be a place where the game could be fun again. I found that place. It's called Wrigley Field. It reminded that if you love the game, it will love you back." - Andre Dawson, HOF speech 7/25/10
That I understand but say the list is cut down by 2/3
that still put you at the 35k range. At that rate you will spend 200 or more bucks before you even think about seats
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 24, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Pre reply
if there are 30k serious buyers in front of you you are looking at dropping a thousand bucks just to have the privledge of buying tickets. I hate paying cover charges
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 24, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I like that
Especially being able to buy other tickets ahead.
You could drop that in Crane’s suggestion box.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
That would weed me out.
Unless that $50 for each year is deducted from the price of the tickets.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
Intriguing concept
I can’t see any team doing that, though.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Have not formed an opinion on Adam Dunn becoming a Cub...
… or whether that is likely… but according to the Sun-Times Article posted in a fanshot? earlier, Dunn has 25 homers in 66 games at Wrigley. Al says he has 7 homers against Z… How many of those homers given up by Z were at Wrigley?
Dunn has hit 7 HRs off of both Z and Glendon Rusch
The most he has hit against any individual pitcher. His HRs vs. Z:
4/5/2003 CIN
4/26/2005 @CHC
4/3/2006 @CIN
4/13/2006 @CHC
4/2/2007 2CIN
7/9/2008 @CHC
Note that only one of those HRs came after the month of April.
Dunn has hit 25 HRs at Wrigley, the most of any park outside of his home parks in Cinci or Washington. 2nd place: Chase Field with 15.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
FU Graybar
4/5/2003 in CIN
4/26/2005 in CHC
4/3/2006 in CIN
4/13/2006 in CHC
4/2/2007 (2) in CIN
7/9/2008 in CHC
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
FU Graybar
4/5/2003 in CIN
4/26/2005 in CHC
4/3/2006 in CIN
4/13/2006 in CHC
4/2/2007 (2) in CIN
7/9/2008 in CHC
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
And FU SBN for multi-posting :P
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!
First the graybar disrupts your post, then you double-post!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you!
tried to look for the stats, but could not find how to get them… Might just be my computer, but those are a little jumbled — I see 5 different dates and that three of them were in Chicago? Maybe a couple were multi-homer games?
So we do not necessairly have to get rid of Z (and hope that he pitches against us frequently at Wrigley) for Dunn to continue to be successful at Wrigley…
Note, while I was curious, my original post and response was a little tounge-in-cheek….
Only one multi-homer game vs. Z
On 4/2/2007, Dunn hit 2 off of Z in Cinci
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I saw that after you re-posted, had already clicked post on my reply
Tried to go to Baseball reference, but have not used it much and felt a little overwhelmed by all of the stuff available when I went to Dunn’s page. Thanks again!!
The HR Log tab is pretty useful...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Oh man, is it ever
Has proven very valuable for me when doing research on some of my home run catches early in my career.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Let's see.
Batting at Wrigley Field? Check.
Facing the Chicago Cubs? Check.
Hit off pitcher X: Check.
Caught by Ballhawk Ken: Check.
That ought to narrow your search a little bit. ;-)
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/event_hr.cgi?n1=dunnad01&t=b
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I assume, as usual, the numbers are based
on paid attendance. It would be more interesting to see the actual attendance figures. I’m sure the Cubs would move much higher up on that list. It would also couteract the economy factor, and focus on apathy.
"The Cubs are due in sixty-two." - #14
The numbers are based on # of tickets sold.
Yes, the Cubs turnstile count is clearly quite a bit lower than tickets sold.
That’s probably less true for other teams, who have fewer season ticket holders.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Right,
so the delta betweeb turnstile count and tickets sold is not a measure of the economy. It is a measure of fan frustration.
"The Cubs are due in sixty-two." - #14
Could be a little of both.
Remember, even if you have paid for the tickets, it still costs more to drive, park, buy food, etc.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Don’t forget the hordes of tickets bought for the sole purpose of being resold.
by bourbon_and_branch on Aug 25, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
That's an important point.
Those tickets are VERY unlikely to be sold next year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I just checked the Tribune.
Still not online. The first hit under “MLB Attendance” was an article published yesterday about the Pirates making money despite their losing streak.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 4:44 PM CDT reply actions
The numbers are on their standings page.
That page won’t be online.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah
And as for my relatives in the Chicago area … I don’t know if they take the Chicago Tribune.
I know my grandparents didn’t.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
This information is online every day
You just have to know where to look:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/current_attendance.shtml
by The New No 2 on Aug 24, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Aren't you kind of contradicting yourself here?
The Padres, running away with the NL West, are up only 1,517 per game even though they have thousands of seats every game that cost $27 or less.
Baseball teams may have finally priced their product too high, such that in an economic recession people won’t go even to see a winning team.
So the Padres have thousands of cheap seats available, and yet their attendance is down. That kind of shoots down your conclusion that high prices are keeping people away in the down economic times – in fact, it’s the down economic times that are keeping people away in these down economic times.
Ultimately though, it’s about revenue not attendance – if you drop prices by 20% and it causes a 10% increase in attendance, you’ll come out behind.
Read it again.
Padres attendance is up. My point is that the low prices and the good team should have had it up even more than it is.
Make more sense now?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I did misread that, but I still disagree with your conclusion
That’s almost a 10% increase on the season before. That’s pretty significant.
Same with the Rockies – you don’t list their 2600-person increase as significant, but that puts them on pace for their highest mark since 2001. Again, 10% is a huge increase.
Perhaps so.
It is generally true that teams set their attendance record the year AFTER they win.
If the Padres make a deep playoff run, there will be a run to get season tickets for them next year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
...
Ultimately though, it’s about revenue not attendance – if you drop prices by 20% and it causes a 10% increase in attendance, you’ll come out behind.
Its also about buying the overpriced souveniers, beer, food, programs, etc…
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119
That's less significant than you'd think
Those detailed financial documents that leaked this week showed that concession revenue ranged from $2M – 16M on the high end. That’s a lot of money, but compared to ticket revenues it’s a lot less.
Here’s a cool breakdown of those financial records from Biz of Baseball
something is off there – that works out to be $5 a fan spent inside the ballpark…I wonder (I dont have the time to pour over the docs right now) if they have separate categories for certain things…
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119
Actually the 2010 aveage attendance
is almost exactly what it was in 2009. It dropped from 30,298 to 30,235. Considering the economy, that’s actually a remarkable achievement.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
As of now.
September numbers may drop that some more.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
However ticket prices have risen 1.5% this year
and the largest increases are from the highest drawing teams. In the end, it’s a great year to own either a baseball team or a bank.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
That's true...
But if you only look at the attendance through the same number of games played in 2009 the drop is still only about 352 per game. That doesn’t include any of last years Sept numbers.
by The New No 2 on Aug 24, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: The Captain Morgan Club at Wrigley Field is most lame.
No cable at home so for last night’s game, the thought of 25 cent wings lured me over there to chow down and watch Cubs. I walk in there and I’m thinking – well they got the “Club” part right. Nothing but homies sitting around trying to look cool in front of their women and sipping who knows what. Hats on backwards, pants down low, and lots of bling. Oh, and multiple cellphones out of their pockets and laying on the tables in front of them. Seriously.
Had to be at least 20 TVs scattered about around the tables and not a one of them had the Cubs game on. ESPNews, Little League World Series, and some football highlights show, but no Cubs. Of course no audio on any of them – just some thump thump house music going. Now I know I could have asked somebody to switch one of the TVs to the game, but that’s not the point. They’re at Wrigley Field yet they obviously don’t care about the Cubs.
25 cent wings be damned (and if you knew me, you’d know what a strong statement that is), they’re not gonna get my business with that kind of attitude.
I went to their website and sent them a slightly toned down version of the above rant. To their credit, i received an e-mail today from one of the managers saying he’d look into it and get back to me. That’s nice of him and I’ll be interested to hear what he has to say, but I don’t expect anything to change. Somewhere somebody decided that that kind of ambiance on non-home game days is the way to go, even if you’re in the shadow of Wrigley Field. I’m getting too old…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
yuk!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 24, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
What!!??
I’m not wearing my hat backwards! ;)
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 24, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
But that's how they are produced.
WWOZ.org - New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Station
by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 24, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol...well I definitely cant find the baggy pants that hang low in my size!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 24, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe you should try one of these hats.
It may solve your confusion if the brim goes all the way around. 
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
haha! :D
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 24, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You punks shouldn't have a hat on
INSIDE period. It infuriates me all the guys that don’t take off their baseball caps inside a restaurant. Not how I was brought up.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
GET OFF MY LAWN
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 24, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 24, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
......
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 24, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Nice try!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh Snap!
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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 24, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You should go back today and see if the Cubs game is on.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Not tonight - game's on WGN, so I'm already making goo-goo eyes at the couch...
But I may swing by for tomorrow’s game since it’s on CSN, i.e. cable/dish.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
OT-
Also…have you seen the new place on Clark? It’s called “The Curse.” No kidding. Saw it last Sunday. I couldn’t believe it. What Cubs fan would go to a place called The Curse? I won’t. That’s for sure. Or is it for the fans of other teams? I don’t get it. Can’t imagine them staying in business long.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
It's on the same side of the street as Goose Island-
a little farther from Wrigley.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
Looks like they have specials every day - when the Cubs are away that is.
Monday was 25¢ wings and $3 Bud/BudLites I think.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
oh and just to be clear...
my feedback to the Club mgmt wasn’t about the clientèle at all. I was amused by all of them and how I (middle-aged Cubs fan) was apparently a minority of one. I was mostly POed about the Cubs game not being on, given that this establishment is at Wrigley Field.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I would agree
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Get the streak started! Go Cubs! Get it done, Mike!
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
As promised...
Tonite’s Attendance Line is set at 18,740. over or under. 1000 BCB $ buy-in.
Windows will close at the conclusion of the first inning. This message will repeat in the first pitch thread.
thus far….
coolio takes OVER
itchy takes UNDER
Bill Potter takes OVER
as always, make your selection early, good luck and happy wagering.
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also going under
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
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I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 24, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL!
Well played, good sir.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
that's crazy talk
you never quit while you’re ahead, you blindly roll it into the next wager while you’re still running hot.
that’s how Vegas was built.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 24, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Going for win two of the Mike Quade era
Keep the good times going.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
Free BLou
start saving the $30 G's
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Update from last night:
The nerds take out the police for the 2010 Summer Softball championship!
Hooray me!
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
Ya Hoooo! Congrats PC!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 24, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Congrats PC!!!!!!!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Pre game radio now streaming via MLB-AM
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Sure hope they can
get another win tonight. I loved seeing all the coaches smiles last night.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Wasn't Bobby Dernier number 20 when he was on the Cubs?
I wonder why he is not again…..Nobody else is.
DeJesus has his old 11 jersey.
Just wondering……
That's correct
However, Thomas Diamond is currently wearing #20 for the Cubs. It would be a bit distasteful for a coach to ask a player to give up his number, don’t you think?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Thank you, I think I was looking at an old roster, before Thomas was on the Cubs.....
No, I would not think he would give it up……Now if Diamond is not on the Cubs next year out of ST……I could see it happening.
I also note that Dernier's first 2 numbers when he was a hilly were 30 and 24
Probably just added them together and got his current 54.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
As long as 21 is available when the Cubs promote me to the big-league roster,
I have no problem with this. :)
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd have to arm-wrestle Tyler Colvin for it
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Maybe so...
But it happens a lot. I was offered cash for my number by a coach once – I politely told him to stick it :)
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
All right, then
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Prices are too high for this economy
You’re correct Al, winning teams sometimes can’t draw such as SD. But in fairness, SD isn’t exactly a big “sports” town at least IMO. Even though the metro area is 1/4th to 1/3rd the size of Chi-metro it seems like they just don’t draw; it’s not LA. CA is also in deep, deep financial trouble, though not as bad per capita as IL. As for Atl, that’s a horrible “sports” town.
And to boot, this will not improve in 2011, may not even in 2012. We’ll see this in the next several months as the DOW will again drop below 7,500. Unemployment isn’t 9.5%, it’s 16-18%. That has a huge affect on pro sports. Soon as the Stanley Cup hysteria starts to wear off on the West side, we may even see the ’Hawks attendance fall a bit, though they played to 109% of capacity last season.
Just win the next game...!
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