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A Marquis Matchup: Cubs vs. Nationals, Wednesday 8/25, 6:05 CT

You may have noticed the somewhat small crowds at Nationals Park the last two days. With two teams around 20 games under .500 playing each other, this is no big surprise.

Thanks to SB Nation DC's editor Mike Prada for pointing BCB at this link -- Bravo's "Top Chef DC" is airing an episode tonight that was taped earlier at Nationals Park:
"Top Chef D.C." is heading to Nationals Park tonight for an elimination challenge. Contestants will be asked to run two concession stands and cook up ballpark food for fans to enjoy. There will be appearances by John Lannan, Adam Dunn and Matt Capps, the latter of which is obviously not with the Nationals anymore. The episode will air at [9 p.m. CDT] on BRAVO.

Sounds like fun. You'll likely see more people at Nationals Park in this episode than will be in attendance tonight, as the Cubs go for the series sweep.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ryan Dempster
Ryan Dempster
Cubs
vs. Jason Marquis
Jason Marquis
Nationals
11-8 W-L 0-6
3.56 ERA 11.39
160 SO 9
68 BB 14
22 HR 5
vs. Wash -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Ryan Dempster 11-8 27 26 1 0 0 0 172.0 153 81 68 22 68 160 3.56 1.28


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2010 - Jason Marquis 0-6 9 6 0 0 0 0 21.1 34 31 27 5 14 9 11.39 2.25

Jason Marquis has had a horrific season. He made three starts in April, including one where he faced seven batters and didn't retire any of them, before undergoing surgery for bone spurs in his elbow and missing three months. He's made three more starts since returning, finally having a good outing (five innings, one run) in his last start vs. the Phillies on August 20; the Nats lost 1-0. He and Ryan Dempster matched up on August 8, 2009 when Marquis was with the Rockies; the Cubs beat him that day. The current Cub who hits him best is Aramis Ramirez (9-for-24, .333, two HR).

Marquis' streak of playing for a team that made the playoffs every season of his career will end this year.

Ryan Dempster has had another solid season, leading the team in wins (though, of course, the "win" stat for individual starting pitchers means less and less every year). His 160 K's rank seventh in the National League. He faced the Nats on April 28 at Wrigley Field, allowing solo HR to the Adams (Dunn and Kennedy); it was a solid outing, but the Cubs lost 3-2. Dunn and Kennedy, in fact, are the only current Nats who have homered off Dempster, who has held them to a .236 average (17-for-72).

Lineup via tweet from CubsInsider:

#Cubs lineup @ #Nationals (8/25): Fukudome RF, Castro SS, Byrd CF, Ramirez 3B, Hoffpauir 1B, Soriano LF, Dewitt 2B, Soto C, Dempster P

Today's game is on CSN Chicago and MASN. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

SB Nation game preview

Please visit our SB Nation Nationals site Federal Baseball.

Today's first pitch thread will be up at 6 pm CDT, and the overflows will post at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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The FIRST thing I thought of upon reading this preview

is that tonite’s attendance line is set at 17,780

over/under…1000 BCB $ buy-in.

make your selections early and happy wagering.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

OVER!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not my job to do bettor's homework for them, but because I'm a nice guy....

Weather should be just fine – high 70s/low 80s…minimal chance of rain.

And tonite’s promotion is:

Celebrate Craft Beer Week with Leinenkugel at Nationals Park on Wednesday, August 25 when the Nationals face the Chicago Cubs. Click the link below to purchase your exclusive Craft Beer Week ticket. For just $22, you’ll receive a Scoreboard Pavilion seat and a voucher for four complimentary Leinenkugel beer samples.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

YAY LEINIES!!!

brewed in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin….right down the street from where i went to college

~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will

by unretrofied93 on Aug 25, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

if my summer tasted

like pee and lemonheads mixed together, i’d move to siberia.

by circuitclout on Aug 25, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

18,250

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

under...

where can I spend the $$ I already have accumulated?

by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 25, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Accepted at any White Sox game at The Cell

~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will

by unretrofied93 on Aug 25, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

any number of greater chicagoland area merchants that accept BCB $

email the site proprietor for a full list.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

How much did I get last night?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got 10,000!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are confusing winnings with laughs...

you are down 1000.

let it ride.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok I'll...ride, ride, ride, let it ride!

—BTO

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait for it....because you deserve it....

THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!

BOOM!!

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worst Canadian band ever

and I am Canadian. I know of what I speak.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since you brought it up, you already already know

but here are two Nickelback songs played at the same time….and they are IDENTICAL.

they’re a formulaic load of shite.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's awesome!

(Spoken with Brett Favre accent)

by mr_einstein on Aug 26, 2010 5:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I refuse to acknowledge them as Canadian or even human.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gordon Lightfoot would like a word...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

this mythical canadian band you speak of that isn't not good..

example?

neil young don’t count as he’s a person

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you asking me to name good Canadian bands?

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess Who

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arcade Fire

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steppenwolf

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Band

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rush

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes?

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't know...isn't that kind of splitting hairs?

when they were just a canadian band they were fine, but they didn’t blow up and put out their best stuff until hooking up with US artists.

at least that’s my initial impression….I could be offbase about that, tho….

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The original band

had one American and I think Robbie Robertson, a Canadian, was the primary force behind that band pretty much the whole time.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

again...i'd have to go to google here

but I thought Robertson was Canadian as well. I should probably just stop writing and do it, but…I’ll leave it out there for the moment…..

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of the original members

Levon Helm was the lone American. He was the drummer. Robertson is Canadian as I said and was the primary force behind the band in terms of song writing.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

i misread that....my bad.

and I love Robbie Robertson. I haven’t listened to it in years, but I remember distinctly wearing out my cassette tape of his first solo record.

Jeez….that was what, 1988? 89?

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't ask me

I was 8 or 9 in those years.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw Levon Helm (and friends) last month up at Ravinia

Voice was a little thin but he still sounded pretty good. And his rather large ensemble (12 other people) was a lot of fun to watch and listen too. Very good show. John Hiatt opening made it an even better show.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

no.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Born to be Wild?

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

A hit song does not a good band make

or a couple of hits.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

But sometimes a couple of "hits"...

…makes a band sound better. ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nickelback? Is that You?

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

and famous

I googled Canadian bands….they dont have too many

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not true

we just have ridiculous laws about Canadian music and how often it has to be played on Canadian radio which is great for Sum 41, Shania Twain, Nelly Furtado and the Barenaked Ladies but terrible for good bands. Arcade Fire are still more popular in the UK and US than they are up here.

Plus we did have these guys.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have Avril Lavigne too.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 25, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another great example

of how Canadian radio grabs onto bands or artists that make it big down south and ignore good up and coming Canadian acts.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Snow

Playing the 1992 hit Informer

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 25, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a tough one....

I love the New Pornographers as well….but they’re a collective.

The Vancouver scene blew up big time there for a while.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Broken Social Scene are very good

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with that as well

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

by my records you are currently +1000

let it ride

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Over here..."

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Over

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

OVER

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just an over/under game on the attendance figures of each game.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew that.

I’ll take the under. From yesterday, right?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you asking if it started yesterday?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I mean the pick is over/under yesterday's number?

Or over/under a specific number?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's just a random number.

Yesterday’s attendance was 18,250, IIRC.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here are the rules.

The line for TONITE’s game…meaning Wednesday August 25..is 17,780.

Do you believe that the announced attendance will be OVER or UNDER that number.

The buy in is 1000 BCB $ and the betting windows close at the end of the first inning.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeezz..... it's like the owner of the casino walks up to a blackjack game and says...

what y’all doin? can I play that last hand knowing what the dealer is showing?

lol

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

OK, I’ll still take the under.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

we should make bets on if Colvin will play or not

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

based on your symptoms, I think you got a bad case of the "gamble"

moderation…..all things in moderation.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Soto batting 8th again

He has the highest OPS on the team. Why does our manager (whichever one we have) keep putting him so far down in the order?

http://thefrustratedfan.blogspot.com/

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 25, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

They probably don't know what OPS is

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It looks like they're making the batting order based on positions rather than production

Hoffpauir’s at 1b, so he has to hit in the middle of the order. Soto’s the catcher, so he hits at the bottom of the order

http://thefrustratedfan.blogspot.com/

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 25, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hoffpauir is...

1 for 1 with a double in his career against Marquis. DeWitt is 0-5, etc. He’s playing matchups.

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 25, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Hoff is put higher in the order ...

because of success in 1 at-bat? I seriously hope that’s not what Quade is thinking.

by elgato on Aug 25, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know who we need to manage this team?

Don Wakamatsu.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because he did so well in Seattle?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

what is

sarcastic reasons the cubs should bring milton bradley?

i’ll take excuses are like pujols for $200.

by circuitclout on Aug 25, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was the joke

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

OOPS, on the other hand....

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

classic

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's a matchups thing?

Quade knows Soto as well as anybody from his time in AAA to the past few seasons.

Against Marquis, Soto is 0-5 with a walk in his career.

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 25, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

just guessing

but look at soto’s career splits by batting order (all sample size caveats apply):

5th – .778 ops in 254 PAs
6th – .796 / 331
7th – .876 / 506
8th – .851 / 229

so three possibilities:

1. soto had a bad year in 2009 hitting 5th/6th and the cubs have decided he can’t do it, or at least, can’t do it yet
2 soto is more comfortable hitting 7th/8th
3. hendry sucks, lou sucks and as soon as quade loses, he’ll suck too

by circuitclout on Aug 25, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

Colvin jacks a HR against a lefty, and sits the next night. They must be trying like ever to trade Dome.

by Grockcubs on Aug 25, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'd be in favor of such a trade, right?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

if the cubs trade fukudome

and colvin takes over in RF, how long is it going to be before people around here start griping about colvin’s obp?

by circuitclout on Aug 25, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

His 1st 0 for 4.

Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!

by Easy Ed on Aug 25, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I would be Al

moving Dome would be great, free some money up to use for other needs.

by Grockcubs on Aug 25, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps it could be used to sign Marquis in the offseason

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Aug 25, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many wins does Quade need...

…in order for fans to start to take him seriously as a managerial candidate?

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 25, 2010 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

25 straight?

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's been a bad year

but it’s the nationals. so at least one more win against them, then a few against real teams?

by circuitclout on Aug 25, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

21 out of 22

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 25, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta play the Fook!!

He’s been hottest hitter. Colvin in for defense (LF?) if we get lead and maybe PH. Colvin back in when Kouske cools off. Like to see Hoffpauir get a few hits—I still think he’s got a future in majors.

by QuincyCub on Aug 25, 2010 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's generally

pretty cool on the bench.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 25, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to sweep the Gnats

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 25, 2010 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's Zamboni them...

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 25, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha I want that!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's neat!

I want one!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, Marquis. The answer to the question

when should Sammy have had a clue that the Cubs weren’t going to retire his number?

by patches23 on Aug 25, 2010 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe someday it can be retired for Tyler Colvin.

Someone ought to tell Sammy that the following players wore #10 after Ron Santo: Billy Grabarkewitz (1974), Mike Sember (1977), Dave Kingman (1978-80), Leon Durham (1981-88), Lloyd McClendon (1989-90), Luis Salazar (1991-92), Steve Lake (1993), Scott Bullett (1995-96), Terrell Lowery (1997-98), and manager Bruce Kimm (2002), although Kimm actually asked Santo for permission, because by then the team was thinking about retiring it…

29 years after Santo left the Cubs!

Sammy needs to chill.

Also, the following players wore #31 after Fergie Jenkins: Tom Dettore (1975-76), Joe Coleman (1976), Jim Todd (1977), Davey Johnson (1978) and Ray Fontenot (1985-86); and the following after Greg Maddux: Kevin Foster (1994, 1997-98), Bobby Ayala (1999), Brad Woodall (1999), Mike Fyhrie (2001), Donovan Osborne(2002) and Mark Guthrie (2003) before Maddux returned.

Larry Biittner and Fritz Connally wore #26 after Billy Williams before it was retired.

Only Ernie Banks and Ryne Sandberg got to have their numbers worn by no one else after they did.

Sammy needs to shut up.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You see it being retired for Sosa?

That is, once everyone who was working there leaves/retires?

by chilango2 on Aug 25, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't know.

I do know it’s not happening anytime soon, if ever.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

His number will be retired

when they pry the corked bat out of my cold dead hands.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Aug 25, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

ISWYDT

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 25, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I happen to believe that it will eventually be retired...

Time and turnover will heal a lot of wounds.

I equate it with the situation at Indiana U. with Bob Knight. That relationship was a torched as could be but as the seasons go by and the sport rolls on, people will eventually look back and give success its due. Even if they don’t like the person.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the Cubs will wait until after he dies to retire his number

Yes, I went there – but only with the best of humorous intentions…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You cannot borrow my shovel anytime soon

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 25, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of these names...

…are not ringing a bell. Brad Woodall? And I barely remember the Cubs having Donovan Osborne or Bobby Ayala. I can at least recall Terrell Lowery vaguely.

"You know, you should be a lot more careful crossing the street like that, otherwise you could die - if that bothers you."

by gauchodirk on Aug 25, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Osborne was another reclamation project.

He had a good spring in 2002 after missing two years with injuries, so he made the team.

He made 11 crappy relief appearances and went back on the DL, and was later released.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

After I play for the Cubs, wearing #21!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can they make it three in a row?

Hope they can.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 25, 2010 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

At this point,

I’ll take a win streak of any length no matter what happens.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok...I gotta ask...

How can a guy like Manny Ramirez probably get claimed off waivers and he hasn’t had a hit…not one…in 2 months? And we can’t dump Nady?

Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!

by Easy Ed on Aug 25, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, Manny was on the DL for a while.

He just came back.

And even then, he’s a better hitter than Nady.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's gotta be the hair...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Besides, we've already got someone with hair in our minors.

LaHair, IIRC … oh wait…

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 25, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Racism

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep...but, he's a good clubhouse presence.

Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!

by Easy Ed on Aug 25, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like Sosa was.

Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!

by Easy Ed on Aug 25, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does he have a boombox?

If so, we’d have to bring Kerry Wood back to smash it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aha! So Wood was the orignal culprit?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was still one of those unsolved mysteries...

I fully expect to see this as a Cold Case episode many years from now.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

wasn't this mystery settled previously?

it wasn’t Wood…..

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it was definitively settled

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes it was...;)

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't either, but your words were pretty definitive

“we’d have to bring Kerry Wood back to smash it.”

That sure sounds like something someone who has an inside connection would say… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I have no inside info on this.

Just what I’ve heard.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Manny might suck and have been hurt since getting of the pregnancy hormones

but his reputation is as one of the most fearsome hitters of the past decade.

some might think that’s a pretty good risk to take

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clearly we are doomed.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
Free BLou

by Ace Venom on Aug 25, 2010 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Yo!

JUMP!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Aug 25, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

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