Soriano, Colvin Homer; Zambrano's Best Outing Of 2010 Helps Cubs To Second Straight Win
by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 7:30 AM CDT
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PrintYou have to go back to 1995 to find a Cubs manager who debuted, as Mike Quade has done, with two consecutive wins.
That man was located in the home dugout at Nationals Park last night. Jim Riggleman's 1995 Cubs went 4-0 before Riggs' first loss.
The only other Cubs managers to do that well in their first few games after taking over the club are Frank Chance, whose 1905 Cubs went 5-0 when he took over at midseason from an ailing Frank Selee; Rogers Hornsby, who managed the 1930 Cubs to a 4-0 record in the final four games of that season, and Jim Essian, who went 5-0 after taking over from the fired Don Zimmer in 1991.
So Quade has a chance to get into rare territory, and as noted yesterday, the team has a different feel about it. Television cameras found Quade at the top step of the dugout, engaged in conversation with Alan Trammell, and when he came out to take Carlos Zambrano out of the game in the eighth inning, he did it with a smile on his face and Big Z knew it was time, too.
Zambrano had his best start in nearly a year last night in Washington. He threw 68 strikes in 108 pitches, allowed just five singles and a walk and struck out eight. If nothing else, he increased his trade value considerably; if he keeps up this kind of work, maybe the Cubs can consider him as a valuable part of the 2011 rotation. His numbers as a starter this year are still a bit unsightly, but better after last night: 68.2 IP, 73 H, 38 BB, 58 K, 4.59 ERA, 1.63 WHIP. In the four starts since returning from the restricted list: 24 IP, 20 H, 6 ER, 16 BB, 15 K (2.25 ERA, 1.29 WHIP).
I still think Z may have burned too many bridges to stay. But with a new manager now, and perhaps another one in 2011, maybe this is a new Z; maybe he can stay; maybe he will at last be worth the money he's being paid. He sure looked like it last night.
And Z did all this knowing his 11-year-old nephew is fighting for his life in Venezuela. Zambrano will spend the next three days in his home country before returning in time for his next scheduled start.
Zambrano said he called his brother before making his fourth start since returning to the rotation.
"He told me not to worry about what's happening there, just worry about what's going on here," Zambrano said. "And he told me: 'Dedicate that game to my son.'
"Every pitch I threw in the first inning, I was saying: 'This is for you. Don't give up, don't give up. Just pitch this game for him.'"
I wish for the best for Zambrano and his family.
Carlos Marmol -- now, there's another story. Marmol nearly blew the game after taking over for Sean Marshall in the eighth inning (and Marshall wasn't that great, either, walking a pair). Marmol's command was off, and he wound up loading the bases in the ninth before giving up a bases-clearing line drive down the right-field line to Adam Kennedy. Fortunately, the Cubs led 5-1 at the time; when Ryan Zimmerman yanked a fly ball to right, it at first appeared to be another "Oh, not again" moment, as I had visions of it just clearing the wall.
Fortunately, Kosuke Fukudome caught it right in front of the out-of-town scoreboard to complete the Cubs' 5-4 win over the Nationals.
All five Cubs runs came courtesy of a pair of homers; the first one, by Alfonso Soriano, gave Sori his ninth straight year with 20 or more HR. There are only four other active players who have accomplished that feat: Alex Rodriguez, Albert Pujols, David Ortiz and ... Adam Dunn. The other was hit by Tyler Colvin. Colvin's blast followed a throwing error by Nats SS Alberto Gonzalez; that turned out to be the difference in the game.
Colvin's home run was his 19th, which leads all MLB rookies this year and which is only six homers short of Billy Williams' team rookie record of 25, set in 1961; that helped Billy win the NL Rookie of the Year award. Geovany Soto came within two of that number in his ROY season in 2008. Colvin won't win the award, obviously, but the home runs ought to get some attention. They come in only 302 at-bats, implying Colvin could hit 30 or more in a full season.
Isn't it nice to talk about wins and positive things for once?
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Isn’t it nice to talk about wins and positive things foroncetwice?
There – fixed that for you… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Yay @ twice!
um... no, i will not take a convoy to basrah
by ASpecialGuestAppearance on Aug 25, 2010 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions
and pining for thrice!
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Thuffering Thucatash!
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 25, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought this last night...
I seem to recall that most of Z manic episodes were during Lou’s tenure. Is it possible that their relationship played into his attitude on the field.? Just food for thought?
"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root
And Baker's and Baylor's and ....
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
maybe it was his relationship with Lou - you could possibly write off anything going back 4-5-6 years as being young and perhaps he has been maturing but maybe he has been frustrated by some of the decisions lately and has let it bubble under the surface. Or it could just be that he has a short fuse and blows up easily…only time will tell
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by hansman1982 on Aug 25, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
He's pitched well since coming back from a few therapy sessions.
But he’s pitched well, especially last night. We will see how he acts after he blows up in a game. I think he is a little different, but this had nothing to do with the manager and everything to do with himself and being coddled by everyone….Hendry, manager, etc.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
I agree 100%
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd - I agree
With the approach of assuming Z has responsible for Z. I like what I am seeing right now, but Z needs to show he can maintain himself over a longer haul.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Some more food for thought
Zambrano now has a 2.25 earned-run average since rejoining the rotation, and a 3.72 ERA in 12 starts after the Opening Day debacle.
Yeesh! What a terrible pitcher. What in the world is he doing with a sub 4 ERA in 12 starts. He is the worst pitcher in the rotation, Randy Wells and Carlos Silva definitely deserve rotation spots more than BigZ (sarcasm intended).
Most of his issues with the team are with his behavior, not as much with his pitching.
If he can keep his head on straight and stay focused he can be quite valuble.
But going into next year, if he is starting opening day, something is wrong and Hendry did not do his job.
Z and Hendry are amazing!
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Wait.
Have TJ and Cubbiegoon switched roles here?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
What...Not Bruce bitching?!
I won’t believe it until I see it.
by Arbusto on Aug 25, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
Well played, sir.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Yanking him around this year can't have helped
Opening Day starter sent to the bullpen after a few rough starts, then back to the rotation, then the meltdown. Z starts with a high volatility count, but given that yo-yo treatment it is not surprising he would be on edge after giving up 4 runs in the first inning of a start – he may have seen the bullpen coming again.
Then anger mangement, rehad outings, bullpen, and starting again. No wonder the guy has been a mess….
Most of the issues are with his pitching
Not with the way he is pitching in his last two starts, rather the way he was pitching. Zambrano’s behavior was ok with the brass when he was pitching well, but not when he isn’t or wasn’t.
Whatever happens regarding him, I hope it contributes toward making the Cubs a better team and that whoever Zambrano plays for going forward does the right thing in managing the physical toll of pitching on Zambrano.
by AboutTheCubs on Aug 25, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
SO Lou’s part of the problem? Really?
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Huh
No, I don’t think Lou is responsible for Zambrano not being able to pitch well. At least nothing ever came across to me that made it seem like he was.
by AboutTheCubs on Aug 25, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry meant that to Clarkfan
reply fail.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
Pulling him back and forth between the pen and the rotation, suspending him for being the only one on the team who seemed to care about winning.
Z has had a few stinkers that bring down his ERA. But he really has not been bad this year and I think he would be more valuable in next year’s rotation than in a trade. I definitely think trading him in a salary dump would not be a wise move.
by cubsforever on Aug 25, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
suspending him for being the only one on the team who seemed to care about winning.
Really that is why he was suspended?
So when he punched Barrett out, it was b/c he cared about winning LMAO
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
And beat the hell
out of the Gatorade machine?
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I don't remember it that way
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Wow...that's a very unique way of looking at it.
He goes ballistic at the whole team during his own failure, fails in the season, and it’s only because he cares about winning, not that he’s narcissistic or unstable or prone to blaming his problems on others like Barrett or Lee…no, everyone else is to blame. Sheesh. You should look to be his agent. What do you think is going to happen the next time he starts screwing up? He probably won’t meltdown the next time he fails badly, but his behavior is predictable. When things are good for him, he will be your best buddy. He has not been able to go a season without melting down and hurting the team, I don’t see it happening now. His velocity being down so much isn’t a good sign either.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good to see "Z"
a little more focused. The Cubs are in a tough spot with him. I really don’t think they would get fair return knowing that a trading partner would look at the deal as a salary dump by the Cubs. The Cubs leverage in any trade with “Z” would be limited IMO.
If, and an If that is often used with “Z” can get back to form 15-17 game winner, 200+ innings, he could become part of the rotation.
I know the Cubs must have worked and continue to do so with Marmol. But man, he can have some real wacky innings. I am confident that he will improve his command and his pitch selection.
I agree, Colvin could be a 25-30 HR guy.
...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Don't hang us out to dry Cubs
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Slight edit, Al...
Zambrano’s WHIP in his past 4 starts is 1.667 (40 walks/hits, 24 IP). His ERA looks fantastic over the past four games, but the WHIP looks about as bad as it has throughout the year as a starter.
That said, hopefully this game is part of him turning the page. Hopefully. He certainly looked great last night, but he certainly did not look very good in the previous three starts (low run totals notwithstanding).
Slight edit of my slight edit...
1.5 WHIP (36 walks/hits, 24 IP). Same message, different numbers.
You're correct.
I miscalculated. I’ll fix it.
Also, Z has allowed zero home runs in those 24 innings.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
now you've done it...
Carlos Silva lemonade: made from freshly squeezed Milton Bradley lemons. -- the Jim Hendry kook book.
There is another side to that
He was giving up baserunners (way too many walks) but battling through it. That may say a little about improved focus. Even with that, he needed to get off the high wire, which he appeared to do last night.
True
him not losing his cool is hopefully a good sign. I’m not excited that he’s barely topping 90 these days, but hopefully he’s learning to control his emotions a bit better.
by SouthernCub on Aug 25, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
The "hopefully" was just trying to avoid sounding pessimistic about Zambrano
I’m hopeful that he’s learning, but I’m not optimistic about it.
Things are good for Z right now.
Won’t know anything until they are bad. C’mon, we’ve seen this act before, like T.O. he’s all smiles when things are good.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
or Randy Moss
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
good point
Let’s see if he can get through the probationary period.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
oh happy day, Cubs win another one
I personally liked the way Quade interacted with the players in the dugout….now that’s just me and I realize it doesn’t mean a damn thing in winning a game. I also know that teams usually win a few when they get a new manager. The whole game was just fun to watch. :)
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
I think the Cubs are playing with new energy since Quade took over.
But I wouldn’t downplay the return of Soto — who hasn’t done a lot, but he’s gotten on base three times in the series, which tops Koyie Hill — and the fact that the Cubs are playing their weakest opponent in about two or three weeks.
Everyone knew Lou was riding out the season after he announced his retirement
But now that Lou is gone, it immediately signals the next phase. Sure, Quade won’t be the manager next year but I’m sure the players are more relaxed and moving on as a team…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Don't rule out Quade just yet....
He’s growing on my more and more every day. My choices are now:
1a. Ryno
1b. Quade
2. Fredi Gonzalez
493. Valentine
I’m sure there are some other candidates between number 2 and number 493, but I didn’t feel like naming them all. I purposefully left a certain Yankees manager off of this list for the obvious fact that he will not leave the Yankees.
There's no need to rule OUT Quade.
But nothing should really be “growing” just yet. It is two games following a managerial switch. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too early to know anything about Quade’s abilities as a manager at the major league level.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
And I think Valentine is to high up on that list.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
You're correct.
What I intended to say was, “The idea of Quade is growing on me every day.” Not only because I like how he has been involved over the last 2 days, but because of his experience with both the minor league and big league team.
OK, that's fair.
But, again, as far as being “involved”… I would certainly hope that would be the case for days #1 & #2 as manager. Hopefully he maintains that over the remainder of the season.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
Fredi González would be great, but given the public outcry for Sandberg
I highly doubt he’s being considered.
Gonzalez is the frontrunner to replace Bobby Cox.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
lets assume Ryno does not get the Cubs job
any other teams try to get him this year?
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 25, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
Supposedly, at least one MLB team was ready to give him their managing job THIS season.
I’m guessing if the Cubs don’t hire Sandberg, he might very well become the next manager of the Diamondbacks.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
If so, then I'll change my mind about having him manage next season.
I can’t stand the thought of seeing him there.
Whether or not you want Ryno as the manager depends on whether he'd manage another team?
Best candidate for the job is my criteria, personally. Shouldn’t have anything to do with who else is interested.
I'm not 100 percent sold on him.
I fear a Dustyesque, Louesque backlash on my favorite baseball player of all time and I don’t know if he’ll get the right personnel to be successful.
I'm not 100% sold on him either
What I meant is that the best candidate for the job should be who we pick. Whether that is Sandberg or Quade or Girardi or someone else. I wouldn’t want “Ryno is going to the Diamondbacks unless the Cubs make him the manager” to be a criteria.
That certainly seems to be a lot of people's thought process, though
“We need to hire him because if we don’t, someone else will.”
Firstly, how does anybody know that for sure?
Secondly, are we dealing with the second coming of John McGraw here? Really?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow what an new interesting take from you
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Right up there with
the new, interesting takes the RynoManiacs offer.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow...
you added sarcasm . neat.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I do what I can
I might try to work in pathos, metaphor/simile and satire before it’s all over.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You might have to work in a few drinks too...
…next time you stop by Murphy’s. ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Affer seeing that,
I need a few drinks …
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I should try that
It might make some posts more tolerable …
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Be very pissed off
and convinced Ricketts and Crew don’t give a damn about winning.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh no, you're not going to start whining about it on BCB are you?
That would be rich.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think so
It would be a triumph of marketing over substance, smoke and mirrors over winning a World Series.
And it would be tremendous validation for the idiots on the South Side (and other places) who think Cubs fans are ignorant sheep.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Just for the record
Who is your pick? Or does it boil down to Anyone But Sandberg?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
He wants Joey Cora.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Who would defeat this "war" of marketing over substance?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
ok so let me get this straight...
Before he’s even managed one major league game, before spring training will have started, we’d have to listen to you bit and moan about it…?
So you’re not even willing to take a wait and see stance if He’s made manager…?
Ramirez, Fukudome, Soriano and Zambrano. It's the 2010 Murderers' Row of baseball failure. - Paraphrasing Gene Wojciechowski
I guess that would make me no different
than the people who come here to bitch about the lineup every day, or Al for bitching ceaselessly about Lou on days that end with “Y.”
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, come on
You were on a jihad against Lou almost all season, worse than any complaining I’m doing about Sandberg.
Sometimes you had a point, but a lot of times you didn’t.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
A "jihad"?
Wow, are you way over the top.
And no, your complaining about Sandberg is far worse than anything I said about Lou, because it comes with besmirching Sandberg personally AND personally attacking people who don’t agree with your position.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No frickin' way
You have used your platform on a daily basis to crap all over Lou. He’s old, he’s tired, disinterested. You besmirched him personally all season by ascribing attributes you had no idea he had.
Dave Kaplan, for one, refuted all the claims you’ve made from your bleacher seat about Lou’s alleged “lack of interest” this season. Kaplan actually has talked to him. Have you?
You really are the last one to point fingers at anybody when it comes to this topic.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I have criticized Lou for his performance.
That is my opinion.
You, on the other hand, have personally attacked Sandberg and other posters here for disagreeing with you. I have never done anything like that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm not sure how not thinking he's the sharpest knife in the drawer
is a personal attack, but maybe the definition of that is changing by the day.
And I’m not attacking anybody for disagreeing. I’m attacking for disagreeing in a snide, condescending way. Or for making an assertion based on nothing.
That is my opinion, like your never-ending Lou-bashing is yours.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll disagree with your characterization of my criticism of Lou as
“never-ending”, especially since I generally defended him until this year.
You still do NOT have the right to call anyone an idiot, and you have done that.
Now let’s lay this to rest.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Not only that, but the Cubs job
is not one for on-the-job training. You better have your training wheels off by the time you get to Chicago.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Having more than almost four years
of managerial experience, all in the minor leagues, for one.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's enough.
You don’t.
That doesn’t give you the right to post the vitriolic personal attacks against anyone who disagrees with you.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al Yellon on Aug 25, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
When you mischaracterize my statements,
it pisses me off. I"m sure it pisses you off if someone does that, too.
I’ve had rational disagreements with some people on this issue. Others are ready to pick a fight with anybody who doesn’t think Ryno is God.
You seem to be in the latter category.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all.
I’m perfectly willing to have a rational disagreement with you.
You don’t seem willing to do that, so let’s agree to disagree here.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
We'e done that before
We can do it again.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Except, of course...
…for the small fact that Sandberg has won at every level he’s managed…..
But, you know, if you ignore that….uh, you’re still wrong.
Right.
And Joey Cora would guarantee us a WS, according to NBF.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
no, he's just help us win the WAR
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
No, Al, that's not what I said
and you damn well know it.
My first preference is Girardi. I’ve made that clear.
Secondly, I think they should take a look at Cora (who also has been connected to the Mariners job) or Oquendo.
Disagree with me all you want, but don’t put words in my mouth.
(Of course, I could turn that around on you: Hiring Sandberg would guarantee the Cubs a WS berth, wouldn’t it?)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
What you said was...
It would be a triumph of marketing over substance, smoke and mirrors over winning a World Series.
sandberg = marketing, smoke and mirrors
???? = substance, winning a World Series
You’re just backpedaling now.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
What backpeadling?
You truly are an idiot.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If you say so.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Why can't you make your points without namecalling?
Stop it!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He makes points?
I wish he’s just answer direct questions…every once in awhile.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Truth is my defense
He didn’t have a point, other than to slam me personally.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I slammed you with your own direct quote...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell
are you talking about? Unless that direct quote says “Joey Cora is going to coach the Cubs to the World Series,” you’re dead-ass wrong.
Go play on the freeway.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I expected you to be able to follow your own posts after you posted them.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Before he even manages a game?
I understand Ryno’s not your 1st choice (nor 2nd, 3rd, etc.) and if he’s selected, you would understandably be upset. But to the point of being convinced Ricketts and Crew don’t give a damn about winning…
Isn’t that a little close-minded?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Aug 25, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not when you're the smartest guy in the room.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think so
given his water-thin resume and lack of real qualification other than giving a nice speech at the HOF and “paying his dues” in the minors.
Quade is more qualified than Sandberg is.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
What guarantees what?
Quade is more qualified than Sandberg, by any objective measurement.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Aside from the misspelling of "Brenly,"
this sums it up.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That opinion is...
… no more valid than yours.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Oh, and also, that link is splitting hairs.
Tony LaRussa had half a season of major league coaching experience under Larry Doby in 1978 when he was named manager in 1979.
He had less than two years worth of minor league managing experience at the time.
He’s done pretty well, I’d say.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Tony La Russa also has a law degree
Ryno isn’t a great intellect, by all acounts.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You're flailing wildly now.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
How many brain cells
are you down to now? Two? Three?
Children are better off seen, not heard.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You make all these claims about stuff...
and then completely ignore all the questions and counterpoints because they’re “irrelevant”, “putting words in your mouth”, “posted by someone you don’t like” or you simply add another layer of reasoning onto your previous statements and repeat the process over again.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
What counterpoints?
You’re not making any. You’re just bitching.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
In your opinion...
Ryno is the wrong choice and will be a bad manager because he doesn’t have enough experience and is dumb.
More than one person has provided you with evidence to the contrary.
As a direct answer to the question about you saying you’d be “pissed” if he were named manger you stated that his hiring would be “the triumph of marketing over substance” and equated it to a magic trick vs. winning the WS. Then you got pissy when asked why you though the team couldn’t win a WS with Sandberg at the helm.
You don’t like the idea of Sandberg as manager but your reasons are kinda weak and you seem to know it, because you won’t actually engage anyone in a real conversation about it.
You can go ahead and respond with the next insult now.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing weak about it
He DOESN"T have enough experience, and he DOESN’T have the intellect. Not compared to virtually every other name that’s been thrown out there in connection with this job.
The only qualification that seems to matter to many is that he’s Ryne Sandberg. Put anybody else’s name on his resume and it gets chucked in the trash can.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You insult the man's intellect...
… simply by comparing him to someone who has a law degree?
That’s irrelevant to baseball, and frankly, you don’t know what sort of baseball intelligence Sandberg has.
Lou Piniella has a high school education. However, I would (at least till the last year or so) rank him as a highly intelligent manager.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
And my reasons aren't weak
Those who support Sandberg are the ones whose reasoning is weak. Pathetically so.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Because they don't agree with your position.
You’re entitled to think that Sandberg isn’t qualified.
However, others have presented very good reasons why they think he is.
Neither position is “wrong”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Al, if anybody else
showed up with Sandberg’s qualifications, you’d laugh.
Heck, you laugh at people who are more qualified than him.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I am also giving him..
… credit for doing exactly as he was asked when he came in with NO experience asking for the job, and being successful at it.
He did the same as a player — when he came to the Cubs, there was NO sign that he would become a HoF player. Yet he worked hard and got there.
I believe he will do the same thing as a manager. Maybe not HoF quality manager, but certainly capable of leading a team to a championship.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He'll take it
right into the ground, I suspect.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You Cub fans are psychotic.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't get ahead of yourself.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
Biting off more than I can chew always has been my problem (he writes as he looks at his stomach).
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw Quade interviewed by the Nationals' broadcast in DC last night.
I was impressed with him, primarily because I had such low expectations, but he came across as articulate and intelligent. They asked him about working in the Expos’ minor league system for some time and he said that he was around some great pitching coaches in their system and tried to learn from them. He made a comment about the importance of understanding pitching in order to do your job as a manager.
I know this isn't going to be popular, but I would give Quade
more serious consideration than Sandberg, solely from a dues-paying perspective.
Look up Quade’s record and what he’s done and where he’s done it. Folks, that’s paying your dues. Not spending four years in the minors.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
You are correct.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs are simply going to need a high profile guy - and it ain't Quade...
Working off Al’s hypothesis (which I agree with) that Trammell was offered the interim gig, only to turn it down when he was told he wasn’t in consideration for the manager’s job, what makes you think Quade has a chance to be “the guy?”
Of course Quade won’t be ruled out, but I don’t think he’s that high up on Hendry’s wish list. Meaning top two…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
If Quade found a way to succeed in those final 37 games
While getting playing time for the younger guys, keeping the egos in check, and maybe even rebuilding some of the trade value of guys like Dome and Z, I’d be pretty upset if he was disregarded by the organization after the season. Perhaps as angry as some fans I know would be if the Cubs picked anyone other than Sandberg.
If this was the AS break, I would agree. But there is 37 games left in a season where when he took over the 20 games under .500. Not much to work with at this point.
As for rabid Sandberg fans & anti-Sandberg fans. I think either extreme is dangerous.
I would the next manager surrounds himself with people who he would listen to.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Whether it is the idea or not,
He’s won two games with an awful team. Even Lou completely disinterested this year has done that a number of times. Quade isn’t going to be the manager.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If he goes 37-0 the rest of the way, maybe he gets a more serious look...
Otherwise, thanks so much for helping us out and please make room for the new guy.
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
48-0 would be even better.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
No, but
If they had called up Ryno and he achieved the same result, I’m pretty sure several goats would’ve been sacrificed in his name by now
It's about the theatre of it all - and the big press conference introducing the new guy...
Hendry gives a big speech about the culture of winning and how the new guy is going to take us to the promised land. Yadda, yadda, yadda….
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Marshall
May be wearing down. He has never pitched in anywhere near this many games in his career before. It would be nice if they could give him 2 or 3 days off before using him again.
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields
Of course, the problem is that the alternatives to Marshall are a bunch of gasoline cans
There is just a bit of an issue with bullpen depth…
This just in.....Chad Fox arm fell off picking up his newspaper in the driveway...
Jim Hendry is letting him come to spring training anyways!
since Lilly was pitching
I was paid attention to the box score of Brewers & Dodgers also.
Not sure but saw that Theriot got CS yesterday.
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by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
what, Theriot TOOTBLAN?
NEVER – how dare you blaspheme his name…
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No idea how he's doing otherwise
but thought that was funny.
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by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe one reason why
he will not be a starter in the future.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 25, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
actually
his rookie and sophmore seasons have more innings pitched and he should end up pitching about the same number of innings as last year
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Who is the top NL cadidate for
ROY?
THE FONZ HAS ARRIVED!
Is that still the case?
I would have thought Castro is at the very least nipping at his heals.
I've noticed that
the writers and TV analysts just love Heyward.
Is Colvin eligible?
THE FONZ HAS ARRIVED!
its ok,,,,,,
we don’t need another Jerome Walton….
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 25, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
My order is...
Posey, Heyward, then Castro
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
I am going with
Posey, Castro and Heyward. Heyward is going to be a stud no question. But if you look at the numbers I have Castro ahead of him by a nose.
If Castro can win the Batting Title... that would make things really intersting.
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by digitalbenjamin on Aug 25, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree, he's a hitting machine...
…and his #‘s are not far off of Posey’s with exception of HRs.
I don’t really think Heyward should be considered at this point, he’s overrated.
Garcia from StL is a better pick than Heyward.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
Hard to say he shouldn't be considered given that there are 5 weeks left to decide the race
But I do think he is clearly behind Posey, and his hitting is comparable to Castro’s, with a less challenging defensive position to boot.
Well not being considered was a bit much on my part,
but I don’t think he’s in the top 3 if the voting ends today based purely on performance. I’d love to see Castro get it, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t matter, and if he gets snubbed, he can use it as motivation to improve going into next season.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
Garcia.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
I might put Castro ahead of Heyward.
Especially if he wins the batting title. He has 388 PA. As of today you need 393. He should start appearing in the BA leaders by this weekend.
Also, here are two triple slash lines. Which is Tyler Colvin’s, and which is Jason Heyward’s?
.255/.314/.513
.266/.377/.450
Not a whole lot of difference there. More power in the first one, better OBA in the second.
The first is Colvin’s, the second is Heyward’s.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
They are very close.....The writers will not be able to handle that, though.
Plus he is on a winning team…..
But I would like to watch the bind they are in, if Castro wins the batting title.
Right
that’s exactly what I noticed.
If Heyward is in the discussion, then Colvin should be too right?
THE FONZ HAS ARRIVED!
its basically the same
as the Heisman Trophy voting - whoever has the most hype and is most loved by ESPN wins…
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Heyward does have almost 50% more PAs than Colvin
And Colvin had been slumping lately, which had some fearing he was a flash in a pan (thankfully, his funk seems to be over). So I don’t really think its unfair to put Heyward ahead of Colvin.
That said, I’d like to see Colvin finishing somewhere in the top 10, maybe even #5-7.
I think
had Colvin started the season as the everday RF (and granted his stats would be higher as such) he would be #1 – the 2 months as the backup killed his chances at ROY
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by hansman1982 on Aug 25, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
It is what it is
Jon Jay and Chris Johnson are two other guys that could log similar complaints about being limited by playing time, and they both have had more impressive batting numbers than Colvin. It happens to a lot of guys (TWSS?).
absolutely
not sure about the other two but Colvin perhaps should have started on Opening Day – although maybe he wouldnt have adjusted as well
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Can you imagine if Pujols finishes in 1st in HR and RBI.
Only to be edged out by Castro in BA to not win the triple crown??
Oh how this entire unbearable season could instantly become bearable with one simple swing of the bat.
I think it'll end up Posey, Heyward, Castro, Garcia, Colvin
But it should be Posey & Castro neck-n-neck all the way to the end…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Not to mention the Marlin's Mike Stanton.
Lot of young talent in the NL this year—haven’t heard about the AL rookies much…
Zambrano can still never be trusted
If the Cubs keep him, he’s a #3-4 pitcher. I would never want to hang my hopes on him again. I think through free agency or trades, we need to add a legit #1 and probably a #2 also to be in the running next year. We have a staff of #4-5 type pitchers outside of Dempster.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
I agree
I am very happy to see him do so well. But I’ve seen this before, and I don’t believe it will stay. But I do believe if he can get his act together, it could increase his trade value. Maybe that is what they both need.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I just can't ever go into the playoffs again
thinking he is going to carry us.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Not a problem in 2011
If the team makes the playoffs in 2012 it will look very different from today, so who knows what will happen then.
Don't know about 2011 yet
We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure about 2011
We’ll jump off that bridge when we come to it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize
Kreskin posted here. Cool. Where’s that $2.5 million I misplaced?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Finally, proof you work for the government.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, you can call me a lot of things, but
now you’ve really gone and done it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
you didn't set yourself up at all for that
hehehe
not picking on your specifically but someone couldn’t have driven a truck through that one.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a hanging curveball
demanding to be hit with impunity.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly my thoughts.
Increased his trade value, good. Of course we’ve seen this movie before, he’s pitching well now and life is good.Does this really surprise anyone? It will take him failing and or injured to see him upset. I’d rather him not of course, but we won’t know how much he’s dealt with this until he fails and more than once.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
1. Is it my imagination or was the announced attendance of 18,250 a bit, shall we say, optimistic?
2. The good news about those 3 9th-inning runs — it meant that the Cubs got to raise their record in one-run games.
When Len announced the attendance as 18,250
he said it was a big crowd. I lol’d at that.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
I heard that, too.
I’ll bet it was not much more than half that in the ballpark.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Sorry, but it is here that you are mistaken.
Double or nothing on OVER.
Let it roll.
by chilango2 on Aug 24, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 25, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Zambrano could be a Cub in 2011
because lately, he has been very contrite. At times, he appears very young and naive which improves his media image. And being owed large sum of money with a no trade clause doesn’t hurt either.
"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas
ISWYDT
Course it doesn’t hurt. Of course it’s the only reason he’s getting his 25th chance. He woulda been tossed outta here very long ago were it not for his contract.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody else read "The Heckler" website?
Hilarious article on Hill be sad about lou leaving….
I am too stupid on the computer to be able to post it.
...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
"Trousers"?
Does anyone really say “trousers” any more?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Pat Hughes does most games
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I still use the term U-Trou.
One of Lee Elia's 15%
by waiting4cubs on Aug 25, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the link.
I think adding Riot to that list would have been good in MY opinion lol.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus I don't see Hill as the sobbing type
This is the same dude that has a claw.
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by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone else think ...
that it would be next to impossible for Hendry to trade Kosuke AND Zambrano in the same offseason? I know that finding a taker for Z wouldn’t eliminate a potential taker for Kosuke (or the other way around). But considering the money involved and the time involved in salary-swap/salary-shedding deals, I bet at least one of them will be Cubs next year.
This is my opinion (ahem), so feel free to point out if my logic is off …
You could be right.
Let’s see how the next 5.5 weeks go.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
My guess is Zambrano.
He’s owed more money, he’s younger, his upside is higher, and if he’s ineffective, it’s arguably easier to hide a bad pitcher among 10 or 11 other pitchers than it is to hide one of five outfielders.
That said, Kosuke isn’t prone to emotional breakdowns …
but Kosuke
only has one year left, less money to saveq
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by hansman1982 on Aug 25, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I just dont want another offseason spent trying to move a player.
While we don’t focus on improving the club in any way we can.
Me, either.
And that’s another reason why there’s little chance Z and Kosuke are dealt. My guess is that Hendry eats $10 million and sends Kosuke someplace.
Maybe he can go to Switzerland in the Huet deal??
Let Bowman see what he can get done.
Great game last night!
Nice to see the new manager really engaged into the game and actually trying to be an encouragement to the players, patting them on the back, etc. Maybe Quade has something that the “old School” guys don’t have when it comes to managing a team and a game. I like that fact that he is not afraid to move people around in the order, and seems to make pitching changes at the right time (before the game gets out of hand).
I bet Ryno is really nervous watching how successful Mike Quade could potentially be in running this ball club.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 25, 2010 8:33 AM CDT reply actions
Not necessarily.
Quade could become Sandberg’s bench coach.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Pure speculation at this point.
For all we know Andre Dawson could be the next bench coach.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 25, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I doubt that will happen.
Would Quade want to be second banana to a guy with far less (minor-league) managing and coaching experience? I kinda doubt it.
That’s not saying Sandberg isn’t the right guy for the job. But I bet Quade’s gone if Ryno is hired.
Why would he stay?
I mean, I suppose it could be Quade’s best employment option. But other than that …
That would be the reason.
Also, that would give Sandberg a bench coach with MLB managing experience. Granted, not a LOT of experience, but…
What is more likely is that Quade becomes a strong candidate for one of the large number of open jobs this offseason. I could easily see him becoming Diamondbacks manager, for example.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Kirk Gibson
probably has just as good a shot at that job in AZ.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 25, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably....
… although Gibson’s W-L record is no better than the man he replaced.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I know Ryno makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy,
but if Quade gets this depleted bunch to play well the last five weeks, he deserves the damn job.
I agree, he deserves to be highly considered,
our new manager, whoever that will be, has to take them to the Holy Grail
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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Release the Holy Hand Grenade!
I'll go to my grave believing Armando Galarraga tossed the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
For five weeks?
That’s a nice job, but doesn’t necessarily qualify him to take the team to the next level.
Ask yourself this: would you give Quade a three-year deal? Because that’s what the next manager should get.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
If Quade can work magic with this bunch ...
it should elevate his candidacy. But, no, he should not be handed the job on a platter.
same with sandburg and Girardi
interview them, spend time with them and figure out who can best manage the Cubs then offer them the job
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The guy has several lifetimes more experience managing and
coaching at every level than Ryno does.
For me, if it isn’t somehow miraculously, Girardi, I am open to everyone. This will not be a very good team next year and maybe the year after that. For that reason, to make the fans feel like something big is happening, the Ricketts will probably hire the popular Ryno.
It’s the easiest least risky thing to do and I think they will do it. He’s the choice that will be given the most leeway by fans should the product on the field perform poorly.
And no, you’re right, Al, I probably wouldn’t be thrilled to see Mike Quade get a three year contract. But I will not be thrilled to see Ryno get one either.
I'm not sure about the leeway.
It’s possible the fans will expect more from Sandberg. Quade might fly under the radar.
I think if things went south fast for Quade the fans
would criticize the Ricketts for hiring an unknown and making a bad choice. I think fans would give Ryne “HOFer, two homers off Sutter, Cindy was such a rat to him” Sandberg way more rope to hang himself.
I think hiring someone based on experience
is the reason we don’t have Girardi as a manager right now. The cubs past on him and hired Piniella, because of experience. It would be a shame if they past up on Ryno for another old fart who has let the game pass him by.
No. Five weeks would not earn him a three year job.
Consideration, not the job. Man this place reacts to a few days…it’s two days and two wins, against the Nats. Lou managed two wins being totally disinterested a number of times this year. Vets want to pad their stats for next year.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct
Consideration, but hardly the job.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 25, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree
And I’m not saying Quade should be ruled out.
But we should all take anything that happens these last 5 weeks with a cement block sized grain of salt.
The Cubs are playing for nothing against a lot of opponents who are also playing for nothing (with rosters stuffed with AAAA players).
If the Cubs “turn it on” these last few weeks, Quade certainly should get some credit. But I’ll give him more credit if he gets any of the following to happen: Z to control his temper, Sori to hustle, ARam to pay attention, any of the middle relievers to stop being flammable, or shows any managerial ingenuity.
Winning is a great perfume… but he still chose, presumably consciously, to bat Xavier Nady 3rd in the line-up.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
by fsuapollo on Aug 25, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree about Sori and ARam.
Their attitudes suck. They should be kept away from the young’ns.
Sori is just lazy. It's not his attitude
Ramirez has some attitude problems
Dear Jim: Hi. I'm Mike. Get Ryno in there. Ok bye. ---Mike
by mikegncb34 on Aug 25, 2010 10:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sori has been very nice
to the young’ns. He let Pie live with him and his family when Pie was here and he also took in Castro this spring too. He is lazy at times but his attitude is ok.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Had a comment about Lou
after the game on Sunday I was outside the players parking area when Lou and his wife left the ballpark for the last time. He pulled away in his SUV but about half a block away he pulled over to the sidewalk and began talking to a few of us there. I got the last autograph and his final words were, “God bless you all. Thank you, everyone!”
by CoMoCubbie on Aug 25, 2010 8:40 AM CDT reply actions 8 recs
Nice to see him go out in a classy way.
Unlike our hero Mr. Sosa.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 25, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
He is Sweet Lou for a reason
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
not many things must be sadder than hanging up your uniform for the last time.
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of a line from an Al Stewart song, "Old Admirals"
And sometimes think in all this world the saddest thing to be
Old admirals who feel the wind, and never put to sea
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Wow!
An Al Stewart reference, never thought I’d see this on this site. The only song of his I know is “the Year of the Cat”.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
If you like Al Stewart and have a passing interest in history
you should take a listen to his album “Past, Present & Future”. IMO, his best album and certainly the most thought-provoking one.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
His early work was especially good.
Maggie May always brings up a rueful grin on this old girl. Memories…
That's Rod Stewart.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
Thanks!
I will check this out. And I’m currently working on a Master’s in History.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
Time passages did fairly well.
Two song wonder.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Very nice story
I know Lou would have liked nothing more than to end his managing career by taking the Cubs to the World Series. It’s sad for both him and we the fans, that it didn’t happen.
I criticized him and asked for him to be replaced, but that doesn’t mean I don’t admire his accomplishments. He seems like a fine man. I wish him well.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Talking to Lou
reminded me that I was grateful for his efforts in managing the Cubs. In fact I could feel all the emotion from the day and didn’t know if I was going to get the words out as I told him “thank you.” LOL
Later that evening I posted my experience on Facebook. People from all over the nation (and Canada, too) commented. Even some Cardinal fans messaged me about how they wished Lou well!
rec'd
Thanks for sharing. Now I wish we hung around longer after the game.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
equal opportunity underwear
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
With a matching vest
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 25, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
sarry underwear
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 25, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
starry
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 25, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like he's a
Hannah Montana fan.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Oh my god
I cannot WAIT to use this photo.
Oh Southern California, how you make language hilarious.
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
Thanks for sharing this.
I can’t even imagine all the different emotions he went through that day.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Get Z outta here...
this reminds me of an abused wife who keeps allowing the abusive hubby to return to the marriage thinking it’ll all get better. Showcase him the rest of this season and then go get something for him in the winter. Sick of hearing that “he’s still young” crap. I have a 16 year old nephew that is much more of a man than this fool.
"Don't shed any tears. You think about this: Here I am, the grandson of a slave. And here the whole world was excited about whether I was going into the Hall of Fame or not. We've come a long ways." BUCK O'NEIL
by HotDogDude on Aug 25, 2010 8:57 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
He seems a lot like T.O. now.
Your favorite guy when he’s doing well. When he’s not…
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven’t listened to much of the games in the last two week. I wasn’t here very much either. Last two nights checked box score about an hour into the game saw the score and turned them on. I had just about let go and getting ready for football season, and sucked back in just a bit.
This happen to anyone else?
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions
Actually, the Bears are depressing me so I am not looking forward to football as much as usual,
and do not want the baseball season to end. I watch the Cubs every night, try to get to at least one game every series. I am enjoying watching the young guys play, and I really enjoyed watching Z pitch last night. I hope he comes back. I like Fukudome, too. He plays an excellent right field and has been hitting lately. Marmol drives me crazy like Mitch Williams used to, though. But he drives everyone crazy.
We used to live a couple hours from DC and my wife and I were talking about how we would have made it to one or two of the games. But we’re very happy to be back in Chicago and living close to the ballpark. But, as we talked about our fun road trips back east, we decided that, if at all possible, we’re going to drive down to Cincinnati for a game or two this weekend!
One of Lee Elia's 15%
by waiting4cubs on Aug 25, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed on the Bears...
the last 6 weeks of this Cubs season I’ve been thinking to myself “C’mon Bears”…but, after seeing Cutler running for his life against the Raiders the other night, I’m thinking about 3 or 4 games into the football season I’m gonna be thinkin’ to myself “C’mon spring training”. This Bears’ season is gonna be brutal.
Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!
I should have added I love both pro and college
Badgers look like it might be a good year.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Not much on college football but a BIG college hoops fan.
Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!
Not only is it March madness and spring training
It means it has eventually be warm out!
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Best time of the year, to me, is the NCAA Final Four, because, the Cubs usually open up on the day of the championship game or the next day.
Not sure about ths coming year, because, I think I read somewhere (maybe here) that the season will start on a weekend now…IIRC.
Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!
I totally agree
Although hopefully some day, it will October so that both football and NLCS & WS
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
College hoops
Isn’t what it used to be though with all the cheating and players leaving after one year, etc… Worst thing that happened for the game was when the NBA implemented that a player must go to college for a year
Dear Jim: Hi. I'm Mike. Get Ryno in there. Ok bye. ---Mike
by mikegncb34 on Aug 25, 2010 10:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
neither was baseball with the steriod era
Or college football, with all the multiple incidents with rules violations.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes and No
The way this season has been going there have been a couple times where I wanted to take time off. However, baseball is the only sport I follow. I end up going back to it after only a couple days because I figure in the winter I will miss it and regret not getting my fill of it now.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
football is not for me either....comes with winter, chili every frickin' weekend, crying over the QB, ugh, me love baseball :)
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
You know what else comes with Winter?
Hockey! You can’t use seasons as a reason to hate sports anymore CG.
While I am enjoying the Blackhawks..
… and hope they do well again this upcoming season, I still hate the cooler weather and shorter days that are already here.
The only good thing about the cool weather now is that it’s lowering my air-conditioning bill.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
+1
Though I must say I don’t mind “cooler” weather, in relation to 90+ with highish humidity.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
If it didn't get any cooler than this, I'd be fine with it.
But it will.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Oh agreed.
That’s why I’ll enjoy this now… then start grumbling when the “mostly grey and drizzly, high of 45” days start coming around.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
I like this kind of cooler.
As long as it’s not too cold to open my windows, I’m fine with it.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
Yeah, these AC bills seem so much worse than in past years...
Good thing I’m saving money by not attending any baseball games!
You hate sunny days with low humidity and a high of 78?
Very hard man to please weather-wise, Al.
this is true...you know I'm one of the bandwagoneers, I loved it Jan thru the SC win, I hope I'm not a fairweather fan
I’m looking forward to following it on SCH too, along with my BCB hockey buddies
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry.
Hockey does nothing for me. I’m not going to suddenly start watching just because we have a winner in town.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
And I certainly can understand and appreciate that.
Hockey isn’t for everyone. Just enjoyed seeing CG get so excited about the hockey games after knowing so little before the Olympics so I had to comment.
If I lived in Chicago land area
We’d likely get start getting into hockey. We really enjoyed Olympics. Would I be a die hard like football or baseball no. But I am a casual college basketball fan, and really love March Madness. Guessing it would work the same way.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I am looking forward to hockey, but alot of my enjoyment came from our playoff game threads...
I’ll miss you guys while I’m watching :(
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
yum, I make a good gumbo!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
lol :D
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 25, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
♫On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin!♪
♪Plunge right through that line!
Run the ball clear down the field, boys
Touchdown sure this time. (U rah rah)
On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin!
Fight on for her fame
Fight! Fellows! – fight, fight, fight!
We’ll win this game.♫
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 25, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hail to the Victors Valiant!
Hail to the Conquering Heroes
Hail! Hail! to Michigan
The leaders and Best
Hail to Victors Valiant
Hail to the Conquering Heros
Hail! Hail! to Michigan
The Campions of the West!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 25, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Uh...
Victors and Michigan football aren’t going together well these days.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That's OK. We've won our fair share over the years. Everyone has
ups and downs. We will be back.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 25, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
E-T-H-S we will fight for you
For the right to do everything for you—
We’ll go in to play and win the game
We will bring you fame! Rah! Rah! Rah!
Orange and the Blue we’ll proudly wear,
May our colors ever fly!
Victory comes while we sing,
Many trophies we will bring,
So Cheer! Cheer! Cheer! Cheer! Cheer!
We will win the game for Evanston High.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Crazy Go Nuts University!
Fighting, and sometimes striving,
Wondering what the Dumple is.
Excellence, and what is valor?
And the Cheat will hit stuff with a golf club!
C! G! N! . . . U!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
me neither
The original Teen Girl Squad had me laughing for months.
Old college friends still refer to lines in it every once in a while… mostly while texting and/or drunk.
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
It's permanently ingrained in our life now
- My wife calls all of our animals “The ____”
- We use the phrase “Old Timey” quite a bit
- Frequently when comparing things we refer to them as “Ali” and “Ali’s Sister”
One of my old roommates made a HSR audio remix file
and it ended with “DON’T YOU TALK TO ME”.
If I can find it I’ll post it :)
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
ha, very true
the Hawks top ten ranking and the return of Farve still hasnt sucked me away from the Cubs this year…
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
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by hansman1982 on Aug 25, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Big Ten Network
has their Hawkeye Preview tomorrow night at 7 pm.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
might have to DVR it
I dont think they have a chance in hell of repeating last years run…they are like the Cubbies – when they are expected to do well they fall flat on their face and when they are on noones radar they do very well
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
Currently 34,839 on the Season Ticket Wait List - Expected age of being #0: 119
You should both enjoy this little ESPN article claiming Iowa has the best shot at winning the national championship
As an OSU fan, I threw up a little bit, but props where props is due.
I don't pay any
attention to pregame writeups that have the Hawks doing well. If I do they always come back to bite me in the ass.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
how many of us only work once every 5th day?
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
embarrassedly raises hand
If that much sometimes when I’m waiting for inspiration.
Unless you buy into the whole “mother’s work is never done” scenario. Then I work 24 hrs. a day.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 25, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
But being an artist
that can happen sometimes. :) So IMHO you can get a pass on that.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
what do you do?
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
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by hansman1982 on Aug 25, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm an artist.
I do most of my painting in the winter. Then I do art fairs on weekends in the summer. Unless I’m selling like crazy and need to crank out more paintings (something I unfortunately have not needed to do this year), I have plenty of time to watch baseball.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
It's not like he's missing any "work"...he'll be back for his next start.
You don’t have “personal days” at work?
Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!
Plus as unfair as this sounds
I’m guessing if you are upper management @ Ford or IBM or something you’d be able to.
If he played Double AA ball, guessing he won’t be able to take off
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I probably could.
And as pointed out, he won’t miss any work. He’ll be back for his next start.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
True but as I stated above
If he was in the minors, doubting the same luxury would given. As the world is not fair.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
and this is a bit of a lost season
so a chance to show FA’s (and Girardi) how great it is to work here…
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
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by hansman1982 on Aug 25, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
what does this have to do with Z taking time off for his family?
I think I lost you somewhere
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 25, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd assume the reach was that...
We’re very understanding about personal situations and are willing to give you the time to take care of what you need to?
Office Space
Bob Porter: Looks like you’ve been missing a lot of work lately.
Peter Gibbons: I wouldn’t say I’ve been missing it, Bob.
"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas
by RiskyBusiness on Aug 25, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh man.
So classic.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 25, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's brutal.
In my previous job I asked in advance for time to visit my 90-year-old mother who was in failing health. It was granted, but as I was changing planes in Denver (she lives in OR), I got nasty emails from my boss basically saying “how dare I actually DO it” and told another employee to tell me to come back. I no longer work there.
Can’t you use vacation time?
One of Lee Elia's 15%
by waiting4cubs on Aug 25, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Thats just a bad boss
Your old boss hit the Peter Principle. He was a weak leader.
"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas
by RiskyBusiness on Aug 25, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
that is a HORRIBLE boss
good for you not working there anymore
I Love Larry - Brick are you looking at random things around the room and saying that you love them - I Love Larry
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by hansman1982 on Aug 25, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I went to the game with a party of about 12 others. Great night, and wonderful weather...just no ballhawk....
I liked the way the Cubs played, and I was impressed that Dome was put into RF as a defensive replacement. And sure enough, it was fortunate.
What’s not to like with Quade?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I'm enjoying watching Quade
He looks very attentive, and looks like he’s having the time of his life.
Good for you, old neighbor.
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
Quade and Dome
I like his body language also, like when he took Z out he was smiling. Could create quite a dilemma for Cubs if he and team put together a win streak, will be hard for them NOT to hire him even if they (Ricketts) want Ryno or someone else.
Also heard Quade praise Fulkudome as he was benching for how hot he’s been. He’s having arguably his best season power-wise and average wise while playing much less. I still waffle on him wouldn’t mind him coming back but we need to change some positions and his (and/or 1B) seem most logical/available. Unless there’s an upset, can’t see a change at 3B, SS, 2B, C, CF, LF altho I do think there will be one "surprise’’ trade of Soto, Marmol or someone we value highly. I just don’t think you’re gonna get much for Kouske and gonna have to eat $10 M or so. Might have more value next year at trade deadline.
Which players are having best years on Cubs? I’d say in this order (by and relative to their positions)
Castro
Soto
Byrd
-—————
then big dropoff to:
Colvin
Soriano
DeWitt (limited sample size)
Fulkudome
Ramirez
(I wonder how many of these rate above "league average’’ according to stats?)
Among pitchers it’s:
Marshall
Dempster
Gorzolanny
Silva
Marmol
There's no "L" in Fukudome's name
Unless you’re combining him and Fuld into some hideous abomination against nature and all which is right in this world? I’d Photoshop it myself, but eh – I’m lazy.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The tale of two guys named Carlos.
Good for Z for pitching a great game with a heavy heart. Marmol just brings on the antacids. When the guy is on he is unstoppable but when he is off he infuriates.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
This won't be a popular opinion...but it's mine.
There is no difference between the “on” and “off” Marmol. There are just the times that batters will swing at his stuff and times when they won’t. He’s ALWAYS all over the place with his pitches. It just looks really neat when batters chase it and looks awful when they don’t.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd green this if I could .. Spot On SWL
Marmol is a guaranteed coronary every time he pitches ..
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Aug 25, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
So true about Marmol.
At times he has me gawking in amazement and at others I’m peeking through my fingers with my hands over my eyes…often simultaneously.
"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes
A new screwball lineup: Fukudome RF, Castro SS, Byrd CF, Ramirez 3B, Hoffpauir 1B, Soriano LF, Dewitt 2B, Soto C, Dempster P
No Colvin makes no sense!
"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"
Look, he hit A HOMERUN last night....you should have expected him to get benched today.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 25, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
What kind of baseball do you play?
Oops, wrong manager…that other guy Lou is no longer around….
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Photo caption:
Careful – the last Mike to wear #8 and point at the scoreboard while talking with Z didn’t last too long…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
What I saw of the game
last night and it wasn’t alot. I liked Mike Quade he was animated a refreshing change after Lou and had a smile on his face most of the time.
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Cubs By The Numbers
Cubs By The Numbers is a history of the ballclub by uniform number, but the biographies help trace the history of our beloved team in a new way. For everyone who's a Cubs fan, anyone who ever wore the uniform is like family. Cubs By The Numbers reintroduces readers to some of their long-lost ancestors, even ones they think they already know.
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