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OT - THE WIRE - Season 1

This is OT. This is also full of spoilers. You've been warned. Shut up. No, I said SHUT UP. No whining.

It's all in the game, yo.

Now... I'm glad my friend Dan, who makes Barney cry with his meaniness, turned me on to this show. HOLY CHRIST ON A CRUTCH THIS SHOW IS FREAKING AMAZING.

I finished Season 1 last night.

HOLY CHRIST! OMAR LITTLE IS MY NEW HERO!

Is that wrong?

New catchphrases I plan on incorporating into BCB:

"What the f--- did he just do?"

"You happy now, bitch?"

"It's all in the game, yo"

"You gave a f--- when it wasn't your turn to give a f---"

And anytime a Cub does anything particularly badass -- maybe in 2012 -- I plan on making a comment about him whistling "The Farmer in the Dell" while playing.

Other random neural firings:

* I'd seen Dominic West in exactly one other thing -- he was the cheerful nephew in Patrick Stewart's version of "A Christmas Carol." Dear Lord did he change it up.

* Stringer Bell is the coolest man ever on TV. I used to think it was Avery Brooks' Hawk, but I may have to put Stringer up there. And frankly, I think Lester Freamon passed Hawk too.

* WALLACE! WHHHHHHHHHHY? OH WHHHHHHHHHHY?

I fully expect non-sequitirs and other bits of randomness. I deserve it. I'd do it to you.


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are you sure this wasn't originally your line???
“You gave a f—- when it wasn’t your turn to give a f—-”

this sounds just like you Worf :)

I’m gonna have to rent it now

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 26, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

That is my new favorite phrase of all time.

I just txt all my friends that. I’m going to start watching this show

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 26, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rent it now. Leave for the video store now.

If they don’t have it, then feel free to smack a bitch

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 26, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coolio watching the Wire...hmmm..

Now that oughta be interesting. You gonna be strapped Coolio?

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 26, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

This really should have been a fanshot...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 26, 2010 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

uh-oh...

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 26, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

"You come at the king. You best not miss"

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 26, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was it your turn to give a f---?

Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein

by Worf on Aug 26, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope - just pushing buttons...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 26, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Wire

will consume your life. But get ready for a shock when season two starts.

by CalCalender on Aug 26, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Does it get better or worse or what?

It’s one of those shows where I will not be surprised in the slightest as to who dies. Maybe McNulty. Other than that, I think they all could be on the death pool.

Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein

by Worf on Aug 26, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

its

long been regarded as kind of a curve ball from the other seasons. It takes you in a totally different direction than season 1 and kind of stands apart from 3,4,5 as well. So dont get discouraged after the first few episodes because it confused alot of people

by CalCalender on Aug 26, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus

you see male penis. Alot of it

by CalCalender on Aug 26, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Been a few years since I watched the show

But I really enjoyed Season 2. It’s true though, it wasn’t what I expected, but I also think it really opened up the show to be more far reaching than I ever anticipated after watching season 1.

by shoemile on Aug 26, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frank Sobotka's long walk to meet the Greek may be the best image in the entire series.

The whole moral of “The Wire” is that it’s good to be good, but you’d best stick within the system. If you’re going to try to truly change things, they’re going to be fishing you out of the bay, either metaphorically or literally.

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by D98 on Aug 26, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing that struck me about Season 1

is that the cops, given what they had, did an amazing thing. They took out a great number of dealers.

But it didn’t make a freaking dent.

That is the tragedy. Daniels damages his career. McNulty nearly loses his kids. Greggs nearly dies. Carver loses his soul and guys like Wallace and D’Angelo are dead or in prison and very little changes.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 27, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, for a moment, I thought you were talking about Season 2008

…or Season 2003
…or Season 1989
…or Season 1984
…or Season 1969

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 27, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Season Two and Four are my favorites..

Best. Show. Ever. On. Television.

It's 106 miles to Chicago...

by BDR529 on Aug 26, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always say it's the best play, best movie, best book, and best television show I've ever seen.

Because it’s all of those.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couldnt agree more....

…anytime the question comes up about best TV show ever, its the Wire and then everyone else.

Its amazing how few people have seen the show….

by JB 23 on Aug 26, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

It gets better through at least Season 3

Some say Season 4 is the apex. Everyone agrees season 5 is the low point, but that it’s still quite good.

Season 1 is amazing.

D’Angelo and Wallace were BOTH on this season of “Friday Night Lights”, btw.

I had a “Wire” themed post here a couple of days back.

“The king stay the king. Everyone stay who he is.”

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by D98 on Aug 26, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

D'Angelo was also

The kicker in the Waterboy!

by Hawk8 on Aug 27, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I felt the same watching Season 2 as I did watching Season 1:

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!

WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
WARNINGWARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING

THE WIRE ruins everything in media (e.g. movies, music, television) for the rest of your life. CSI? Oh look, they just enhance some shit and the murderer is clear! Want to wrap up a story…good thing, there’s only 22 minutes remaining! THE WIRE takes many episodes to work—“slow burn” is an understatement. It’s until about episode 8 in season 1 that you start to realize what the shit’s going on. Then Season 2 hits you and BAM! you have no idea what the hell’s going on. David Simon is comfortable showing his world as he deems fit; and he trusts that the viewer is smart enough to figure it out. I respect that about the show the most; it puts a lot of faith in the viewer.

God I’m gonna be on a WIRE rant all night now.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Simon on the commentary

SPOILER!

In Episode 1, where they do a flashback to the witness that was killed Simon said he resisted that and wished he wouldn’t have put it in. Basically, he trusted the audience.

Unbefuckinglievable.

I watch an episode, watch it again, read Sepinwall and then read Television Without Pity’s recap (which takes like 30 pages) THEN I glance over Wikipedia’s episode listing. THEN I’m good.

I picked up Simon’s book, “Homicide” which is about a year with the homicide unit in Baltimore. Can’t wait to dig in.

Season 2 is coming just as soon as Netflix gets it here.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 26, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude just buy it.

Seriously. It’s like purchasing a modern day Encyclopedia Britannica. Amazon had some ridiculous deal for their gold deal or whatever for the entire series a few months back.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

His show Homicide on NBC (writer and producer) was awesome before.

Never saw a show deal with the lives of the officers, untidy, blemished like that…many cases never get solved, very gritty and obviously in Baltimore. The Wire is like Homicide on steroids, what he might have done from the detectives’ standpoint if that show was on HBO instead of NBC. I’m glad to have found it, and hope that when The Wire ends he does something else equally as ballsy.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 26, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wire ended a few years back.

Now he’s doing “Treme”, which follows musicians and other residents in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina.

by shoemile on Aug 26, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

THE WIRE ended two plus years ago.

He did GENERATION KILL, a 7 part mini-series, on HBO, about the Iraq war. That aired in 2008, too. And the first season of TREME, a New Orleans music-based drama, just ended.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

That’s what I miss by ignoring HBO. My idiotic sat provider and cable provider force me to pay 20 extra bucks and get a package if I want to see it. 2008 huh…wowzers.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 26, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

GENERATION KILL is fantastic, by the way.

TREME, I’m undecided. It’s so different than THE WIRE I dunno what to think. But John Goodman and Stephen Zahn’s characters make it all worth a watch.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Zahn's character too

Even though apparently many found him incredibly annoying. I like Wendell Pierce’s character a lot.

by shoemile on Aug 26, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been following it on Netflix as well since I don't pay for HBO.

I never put a lot of stock into TWP, their criticism is very uneven and since they aren’t paid a lot if anything, prone to writers swooning over actors. Even when criticism seems accurate, you realize the shows they dump because they are overacted or have jumped the shark…are frequently still better than a lot of those they do cover like idiotic reality shows. I get that they want to be hip to a young audience, they just don’t have much meaning for me to waste time reading.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 26, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a love/hate with TWOP

But with a show like The Wire, they basically just transcribe the show in their recaps, so it’s good to catch nuances and things you might have missed.

I only go there for The Wire, though. I absolutely despised what they did when recapping “The West Wing.” They put someone on there who disagreed with the show’s politics. That was her right, but at some point, you have to ask, “Why are you still here if you disagree with what the show stands for? It’s a liberal show. Get over it.”

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 27, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

...

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 26, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Ultimate Worf lines...(hilarious)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrTxJp9yDE

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon

by Cubbiegoon on Aug 26, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely the best policer of all time.

May well be the best episodic TV drama of all time.

by MN exile on Aug 26, 2010 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Simon's other show, HOMICIDE: LIFE ON THE STREETS

is also amongst the best.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

This qualifies as Best. Network. Television. Show. Ever.

The episode with the commuter train was one of the most amazing pieces of television drama I’ve ever seen.

It's 106 miles to Chicago...

by BDR529 on Aug 26, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

Anything with Andre Braugher and “the box” is just incredible television.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really like watching most stuff with him in it.

Thought he was wasted in the FF movie but other than that he usually scores well. Did a good job by the way in the Tuskegee Airmen which is an old great HBO special if you get a chance to watch it.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 26, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Him and Scott Bakula in one show together?

Appointment viewing for me!

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 27, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's links to reviews season by season by Alan Sepinwall...

Read after each episode for more in-depth analysis…I found it very helpful to digest some things I missed the first time around.

This show is really re-watchable because when you get to the end of the series, you have a better picture how everything fits together.

Season 1 for Newbies

Season 1 for Veterans (SPOILER ALERT)

Season 2 for Newbies

Season 2 for Veterans (SPOILER ALERT)

Season 3 Newbies & Veterans (SPOILER ALERT)

Season 4 (SPOILER ALERT)

Season 5 (SPOILER ALERT)

Like I said before…BEST. SHOW. EVER.

It's 106 miles to Chicago...

by BDR529 on Aug 26, 2010 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

i love

reading sepinwalls stuff.

by CalCalender on Aug 26, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sepinwall's love for THE WIRE may have passed his love for NYPD BLUE, which is the whole reason he got into television writing.

It’s that good.

Fun fact:

How many Emmys did THE WIRE win?

Zero

How many Emmys did THE WIRE get nominated for?

Zero

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Emmys suck

Obviously, I’m a Next Generation fan, but it is a travesty that Brent Spiner and Patrick Stewart never got a sniff.

And it is an even bigger one that The Wire got nothing.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 26, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It took them 4 seasons to nominate Kyle Chandler for Friday Night Lights

FNL is a great analogue to “The Wire” – both are ostensibly about one particular thing (the drug trade, high-school athletics), but then the scope expands and expands and you recognize that the show is really about how our cities and institutions work and don’t work, and how the official and unofficial powers that be don’t always have the greater good in mind.

FNL is to small-town America as The Wire is to urban america.

And the fact that the Emmy voters could ignore the FNL Season 2 scene with Coach Taylor throwing drunk and sobbing Matt Saracen into the shower is EXHIBIT A in the case to disband the Emmys forever. I still can’t believe how good that scene was…. right up there with the very best of The Wire.

“There’s nothing wrong with you, son. Nothing at all.”

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by D98 on Aug 27, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed 100%. That scene was amazing.

Watched it probably ten times when I first saw it.

“I don’t need any of your Dad-Coach talks, so you, just feel free to go home.”

The work Zach Gilford did this past season deserves so much praise. The dinner table scene with the Taylors was unbelievable.

by shoemile on Aug 28, 2010 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sepinwall rocks

NYPD Blue was my favorite show and he was there. Chuck is my favorite current show and he is there. He also gives a much-needed smackdown to Simmons from time to time.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 26, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Chuck is great.

Wasn’t all that impressed with the extra six episodes this year, but hopefully it turns around. Season two was so good.

by shoemile on Aug 28, 2010 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

It really is an amazing show

I loved the second season, so you should really look forward to digesting that.

"I think I'm going to a casino in Indiana and play snake eyes. I don't know what else to say, I'll be honest with you."

by AussieCub on Aug 26, 2010 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't steal my show.

I’ve been the BCB resident THE WIRE expert for years.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, you cited me. Now me sees.

Please use (dtpollitt, 2007) in any future THE WIRE references. Brief notes:

I’m convinced that in a hundred years when people want to know what urban America looks like they will turn to THE WIRE to learn. How do I explain this show to n00bs? This is what I say:

Each season is a Shakespearean play on a different institution in America and how it fails us. Season 1: The Drug War. Season 2: The Blue Collar Worker. Season 3: Politics. Season 4: Schools. Season 5: Media.

David Simon is a pure genius. It’s that simple. If you’re really really interested in THE WIRE go back and find the book THE CORNER, which became a HBO special before THE WIRE started.

Stringer Bell is my favorite character of all-time.

Dan

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

It's the Great American Novel.

Used to be we made something here. Now it’s just a bunch of guys with their hands in the next guy’s pocket.

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by D98 on Aug 26, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fun Fact #2:

No music in THE WIRE takes place outside of the show itself, sans the season finales. All music is source music, meaning it comes from a car CD player, boombox, headphones, etc. God I love THE WIRE.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Also, recommended.

Worf, please email me at dan period pollitt at gmail dot com and we can be internet friends forever.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

If you don't think THE WIRE is true true poetry, try watching this 5 minute scene.

Only using the f-word, Bunk & McNulty tell an entire story, start to finish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQbsnSVM1zM

And that, my friends, is modern poetry at its finest.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

These vids

were created by the passionate and irreverent folks at pajiba.com

They deserve your views. Take a look. You’ll be glad you did.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on Aug 30, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was brilliant

I also love the variations of “What the f—- did I do?” It’s perfect.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 26, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's with the new icon?

Cracked me up seeing the picture the first time, looked like a young Bill Cartwright. Guess you wanted to go edgy with The Wire.

R.I.P. Barney…lasted a month looks like.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 26, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basically I'm behind all of Worf's avatars.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

He picks good ones.

Makes me ashamed I’ve stuck with this WS picks one, I’m too damn lazy for my own good.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 26, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll probably change it from time to time

Little Stringer D’Angelo Poot Lester Prez Herc Worfington is going through a Baby Sesame Street phase right now, so I’ll probably do one of those guys. Bert with a binky cracks me up.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 27, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes!!

What an incredible scene.

by Hawk8 on Aug 27, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Did you just start watching Seinfeld too?

by JSB on Aug 26, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

It takes time to get around to THE WIRE.

And a lot of commitment. I used to watch each episode at least twice to understand what the hell was going on.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

But once you get turned onto it, you run through the episodes pretty quickly. I started watching right before Season 3 came out, and I was caught up in about a month. Then again, I am not married/have kids etc.

It’s like reading a thriller. Can’t put it down.

by JSB on Aug 26, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I used to watch 24 on DVDs. I stayed up and watched 5 or 6 episodes in one night.

THE WIRE is the opposite of that.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because it's good?

I never was a 24 fan. Re-watchability of Wire if off the charts too.

by JSB on Aug 26, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I meant you could digest 24 like a Coney Island hot dog contest.

With no substance or flavor.

THE WIRE is the opposite of that.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you stopped to think about 24

You kinda lost interest.

When you stopped to think about “The Wire,” you wanted to watch it again.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 27, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

i somewhat disagree

I felt that when one episode of the wire finished I would immediately look at the time and see if I had enough time to watch another episode…

I do agree that there is a lot in each episode that I pick up more the second time throught, but i couldn’t imagine waiting to see what happened next…

by Hawk8 on Aug 27, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

If there's one show in the history of television that benefits from patience and repeat viewings, it's THE WIRE.

A week was rarely enough time to digest and discuss with friends.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 27, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

you guys are starting to sound like a bunch of chicks at work on a Monday...

…gathered around in the coffee break room talking about last night’s Sex in the City episode.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 27, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

such a good show

season 1 was great. there were some following seasons that i was less excited for, but on the whole, it was one of the defining shows of the decade, along with others, like The Shield.

by toonsterwu on Aug 26, 2010 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

THE SHIELD!

My favorite show ever prior to THE WIRE. THE SHIELD beats THE WIRE on one level:

TS had the single greatest series finale I’ve ever seen. It was perfect. I cried. TW was very very good, but not on the same level, unfortunately.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Shield was my show

I watched that from beginning to end.

And the season finale was the greatest single TV show I’ve ever seen — I’ve still got four seasons of The Wire to get through though.

I never sprung for HBO. I catch up via DVD.

I am going to try “Breaking Bad” after this. I am one of the few people out there who thinks “Mad Men” is overrated and I found “Rubicon” completely unwatchable.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Aug 27, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Breaking Bad is the best show on television.

Mad Men is very very good.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 27, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe that anyone can call "Mad Men" overrated

…after watching the final Kodak pitch that ends Season 1. That’s one of the greatest scenes in TV history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWyLaXCV2_s

The most amazing thing about this scene, to me, is that Draper can stay just a bit removed from this mind-blowingly emotional and seemingly personal pitch. He’s selling an advertisement, obviously, so there’s about 2 levels of artifice built in regardless.

But beyond that, he’s using his ostensibly picture perfect life, which is in itself an artifice on 2 levels — his supposedly beautiful marriage/family is obviously far from perfect in the here and now, and more to the point, is built entirely on the artificial identity Don has constructed for himself.

And through it all, Don never wavers, or veers from the pitch. It’s too much for Harry Crane to take, but in that moment, it’s another day at work for Don Draper.

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by D98 on Aug 27, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wasn't calling it overrated.

It’s fantastic. But it’s not even the best show on its own network. Bryan Cranston and Breaking Bad own that honor, and this past season of BB just slayed everything else on television.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 27, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was referring to the previous poster.

Yes BB is absolutely awesome.

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by D98 on Aug 27, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sort of think Mad Men is overrated

It’s extremely well done. It captures the era and human nature in a remarkable way. But, sometimes it just isn’t that entertaining. In the end, the best shows manage to do all that and still entertain.

Perhaps the problem is that I have only watched past shows, multiple ones at a time. Once I am caught up, I might change my mind.

by JSB on Aug 27, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I can agree with that premise

When you look at what people have called groundbreaking shows the past decade (The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad now), the one thing they all have in common is their ability to utilize violence, and in many ways, violence = entertainment. If things get slow in Mad Men, not much else to do but get Don laid or land a new account.

Understandably, the limitations the story has is ultimately the writer’s choice. But personally, it’s worth it to me. The other three shows I’ve mentioned have plenty of scenes where you go “HOLY SH—! DID THAT JUST HAPPEN?”, while I can only think of one time I’ve done that while watching Mad Men (Lawnmower episode). I still think it’s entertaining, but you’re not on the edge of your seat with no idea of what’s happening next (which is what I thought Breaking Bad was this entire season, and thus agree with those who say it’s the best show on television). To me, that just makes it a different type of entertainment. But I can kinda see where you’re coming from.

by shoemile on Aug 27, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought about that too

I was going to put the “boring subject” thing into my post, but I thought better of it. I think you really put your finger on the problem. Ad men in the 60s is only so entertaining. Actually, if the show only featured Don Draper it would be 100% more entertaining in my opinion. But, then you wouldn’t have as much nuance and it wouldn’t be a full portrayal of a culture the way The Wire etc. are. I can be entertained by it for 1 hour a week, but not for 8 hours the way I can be entertained by gang violence in Baltimore.

by JSB on Aug 27, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I started the Shield after watching the Wire

and it didn’t compare…not on the same level and seemed very contrived in comparison

by Hawk8 on Aug 27, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, THE SHIELD started a bit before THE WIRE.

And it was just about the most groundbreaking cable tv show ever at the time. Lots of swearing, violence, a rough lead actor. It really paved the way for shows like Breaking Bad, Men of a Certain Age, Nip/Tuck, etc.

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by dtpollitt on Aug 27, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Shield...

basically took the model of Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue to a new and darker level, but it bore a resemblance to the same model.

The Wire broke the model and created its own.

I love the Shield. Always will.

But it’s not as good as The Wire

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by Worf on Aug 27, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I forgot another fun fact:

Clark Johnson was a regular on HOMICIDE. He became a regular on THE WIRE and also appeared on THE SHIELD. He holds the honor of directing the first and last episodes of THE SHIELD, as well as directing the first and last episodes of THE WIRE. He’s fantastic.

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by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have never seen a minute of it before

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by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 26, 2010 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Man gotta have a code....

/kicks down door

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by D98 on Aug 26, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just a humble motherf$%^er with a big-ass d!!k

You give yourself too much credit.

Ok. I ain’t that humble then.

Gotta love the Bunk.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 26, 2010 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Since this is only about Season 1, let's get specific:

My favorite moments from S1:

-“WHERE WALLACE? WHERE WALLACE AT, STRING?!”
—F
— scene with Bunk & McNulty
—Chess scene / drug organization in the pit by D’Angelo
—Chicken McNugget scene in pit with Poot
—D’Angelo taking his girlfriend out to eat at the white restaurant
—East/West basketball game
—Kima shot

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by dtpollitt on Aug 26, 2010 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

That was awesome.

I’m such a nerd I watched their commentary of it and them talking about that scene. Good stuff.

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 26, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those all rocked

The scene where Rawls lays into McNulty after Kima got shot was absolutely brilliant. I think that was my favorite overall.

My favorite line from the basketball game. “It’s 85 degrees out here and you want to dress like Pat RIley? N—-gger, you can’t even read a playbook!” That slayed me every time. I mean, EVERY TIME.

Others:

McNulty using his kids to trail Stringer. I was terrified.

Lester and his Smooth Chocolate moves on Shardane

Prez actually becoming decent police (at least at the legwork end. Not sure about him getting a gun again)

Daniels’ come to Jesus scene with Carver.

I named 5. You named 5 or 6. Probably a dozen more.

DAYUM! What a show

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by Worf on Aug 27, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's PO-lilce.

He’s good PO-lice.

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by dtpollitt on Aug 27, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I used to watch the Wire on my laptop before I went to sleep....

…that was a bad idea. I’d hear the ending credits, and then I’d have to watch the next one. 3 episodes later I would fall asleep.

I’d wake up and watch it on my laptop while driving north on Lincoln Ave. to work. Seriously.

When I watched the last episode, I drank half a bottle of scotch to “celebrate”, but maybe I was mourning like McNulty.

Nothing is weirder than watching 5 seasons of The Wire then hearing Dominic West’s real voice.

After the Wire, I watched Dexter and Oz. Apparently there’s only 25 actors and they are all recycled on these 3 shows.

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by Fukudometer on Aug 26, 2010 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

oh, I almost forgot

“Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…..it.”
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by Fukudometer on Aug 26, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

related post

sound NSFW kinda…

Clay Davis

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by Fukudometer on Aug 26, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seasons Three and Four

of The Wire are without a doubt my favorite seasons of any series of all time.

by hoppy91 on Aug 27, 2010 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

The apex of the series is Stringer and Avon on the penthouse balcony in Season 3.

Both talking about the old times, both knowing that it is over, neither knowing what the other knows.

I could watch that episode a hundred times.

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by D98 on Aug 27, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agreee about season 3 and 4.

Also the characters and their development over time.

Bode (Preston), Omar, Carver, and Presz…Love them.

Also, how could you not love Bunk?

by Hawk8 on Aug 27, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

FYI...

If you have DirecTV, they are re-running the Wire at 8:00 on Sunday Nights on their 101 channel

FYI…Dominic West also played the leader of the band in Rockstar….

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by TheRiot Police on Aug 27, 2010 7:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Skipped past all the comments

but I’m watching this as soon as I wrap up seasons 3 and 4 of Dexter. The Wire has been sitting there for months, and I’ve dying to dive in.

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 27, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

See, I love The Shield. Next to Lost, it may be my favorite show ever

and people have compared The Wire to The Shield, even saying it’s better. So I’m stoked to get addicted.

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 27, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really like it when I know people that love THE SHIELD but haven't seen THE WIRE.

It’s a good precursor.

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by dtpollitt on Aug 27, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stories are deeper and more complex...

The Wire requires patience, The Shield sometimes gives you a quick fix.

It's 106 miles to Chicago...

by BDR529 on Aug 27, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best show in the history of time

No TV show will ever match the perfection of the Wire. My favorite character besides Omar: Senator Davis.

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by IowaCubs- on Aug 27, 2010 3:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

The Wire is the greatest show of all time!

No exaggeration. TV shows have been ruined for me since The Wire. Every character is incredible! Season 2 and 3 are great and Season for is unbelievable. The Wire is on the 101 Network on DirecTV now and I’m rewatching the whole series and get bummed that I can only watch one episode at a time. Enjoy your viewing, you will not regret it. Greatest show ever. Period.

by Hawk8 on Aug 27, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

"Farmer in the dell" Nisnomer

I read an article from Michael K Williams (Omar Little) where he corrects the record.

He was whistling “A Hunting We Will Go” a’ la Porky Pig.

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by Reddevil on Aug 30, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Then why did he say "the cheese stands alone" to Mr. Wagstaff?

Same melody, but the greatest Omar joke ever only works as a callback to the end of “farmer in the dell”, right?

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by D98 on Aug 30, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Legit question

Here’s where I got this: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/3d7qq6

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by Reddevil on Sep 3, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right. I'm wrong.

It’s been a while since I got up early for cartoons on Saturday.

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by Reddevil on Sep 3, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite summation of "The Wire"

“Its really about the American city, and about how we live together. It’s about how institutions have an effect on individuals, and how whether you’re a cop, a longshoreman, a drug dealer, a politician, a judge [or a] lawyer, you are ultimately compromised and must contend with whatever institution you’ve committed to.”
— David Simon

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by Reddevil on Aug 30, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Almost as great a show as Deadwood.

Which IMO was maybe the best written series ever.

Al Swearengen: “God rest the souls of that poor family… and pu$$y’s half price for the next 15 minutes.”

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by Bump Bailey on Sep 3, 2010 1:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks to this thread

I rewatched season 1 last week. Season 2 here I come.

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