Seattle Writer Says Lou's Not Done
Larry Stone's usually on target, but here he just has a "hunch". Not this time, Larry -- after Lou's tearful final press conference when he said he was taking the uniform off for the last time, I believe Lou. He's retired for good.
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Al Yellon
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I wouldn't expect it, but...
it wouldn’t totally shock me. I, for one, seen a beat up senior citizen sitting in that dugout the past 1 1/2 years. That left handed bat they brought in from Texas last year, and having to deal with Zambrano’s antics on a weekly basis, pretty much let whatever air was left in Lou’s balloon, leak out. He looked relieved after his announcement in July. He looked like a man who was totally “all-in” during his last press conference, after his final game. 67 years old is a good time to start spending the millions he earned throughout his 50 years in baseball…to enjoy life. I hope he does.
Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!
Which was more irritating?
Z’s antics or the rest of the Cubs sleepwalking?
LaRussa is a dupe for Glenn Beck 8.28.10
by Dan Serafini on Aug 30, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Sportswriters need material these days.
Too many of them covering the same games and stories. Not much insight or anything to worry about here.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 29, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Lou could go the route of Zim
Chronologically inept since 2060
"I could be writing this crap!" -- Crow T. Robot
Me: Q: I can run but not walk. Wherever I go, thought follows close behind. What am I?
Wrigster A: Theriot
Exactly.
Lou had been promised, IIRC, a consulting job by George Steinbrenner when he retired. I can see him doing some of that for the Yankees, especially during spring training when they’re in Tampa.
Otherwise I believe Lou is retired.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Lou's done-as a manager
Jim Hendry neglected to mention that Lou was a GM during the Yankee days of the 1980s. I could definitely see Lou returning to the Yankees as a consultant. Much has been made about Lou not being the best speaker. Well, Charlie Manuel isn’t exactly Tony Robbins at the podium either. But Charlie and Lou know baseball.
Bench coach is always a possiblity
Seeing as how today’s new breed of managers are probably going to be more numbers-driven, stats-oriented, it might make sense to have an old warhorse, go by the gut guy as your bench coach – somebody like Zim, Torre or Sweet Lou.
But not anytime soon – Lou definitely needs a year or two off to rest, relax, recharge and tend to other matters in his life.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I think Lou is done wearing a uniform for anyone during the regular season.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Why the "regular season" qualifier?
Can clubs add coaches after Sept 1 and still be eligible for post-season? ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
LOL
Yeah, I guess. OK, let’s say not at all except for maybe during spring training.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
True - I didn't think about Spring Training
Being a roving instructor type, especially for the Yankees given their ST location and Lou’s history with club seems like a natural fit, except…
…I just don’t see Lou having the desire to work closely with the kids, nor do I expect kids be able to learn much from Lou. Most of them probably wouldn’t even know who he is in a few years.
What I do very easily envision is Lou leaning back in the stands or zipping around in a golf cart with Girardi, Mattingly or Cashman, etc. (assuming Yankees) giving honest player/talent assessments.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
That's exactly how I see Lou's future role.
He’s done managing.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Lou will probably get a job with the Tampa family...
…of the Yankees organization. They need a new Godfather figue with Steinbrenner gone….though he might be more Sonny in style.
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Aug 29, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
IF the Cubs were to land Girardi
I could see Lou managing the Yankees for a couple of years.
"I need the warmth of your smile to heat my frostbitten sorrow."
Well, first of all, Girardi's not going anywhere.
Lou going back to NY to manage? Not a chance, at his age. If Girardi does leave, they’d likely turn to Don Mattingly.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I agree about Girardi
I did say IF the Cubs were to land Girardi. I think it would be a longer shot than if Steinbrenner were still alive and running the team, but I do think it could happen.
"I need the warmth of your smile to heat my frostbitten sorrow."
by markleonette on Aug 29, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I don't.
But I cannot see Lou managing again. He said he was taking the uniform off for the last time. Why do I believe him?
Because he said many times that he played till he was 41, and when he took the uniform off for the last time as a player, he never wanted to put it on again.
He has just said the same thing as a manager. I believe him.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I was referring to the "Well, first of all, Girardi's not going anywhere." part
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Oh.
Well, you’re right, I don’t know that either.
But I’d bet you a Big Gulp I’m right.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Oh, I think you're right too.
It’s the complete dismissal (at least based on the typed word) of any possibility of Girardi leaving that offends my sense of fair play. I’d say there’s about a 15-20% chance he leaves. Which makes me wonder if Vegas has a line on this. I know they come up with lines on all sorts of things – any gamblers out there that can find out?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
15-20%?
Way too high, unless the Yankees miss the playoffs, which looks very unlikely.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
There you go again - looking at this only from the Yankees' perspective
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I don't know where you got "15-20%".
Seems like you pulled numbers out of thin air.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Of course it was thin air - how else can you assess a decision based purely on the inner workings of someone else's mind?
Did you not see the “I’d say there’s about a…” part right before the numbers? It’s called an opinion, an estimate, a guess, a conjecture…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Sure.
Seems pretty specific to be a conjecture or guess. How do you put a number on someone’s possibility of leaving a job?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I suppose I could have used words instead
“I’d say there’s a slight chance he leaves”.
Then again, “slight” could mean different things to different people, so I guess in my mind I just tried to equate my best guess to a scale that everyone understands. And 15-20% is what I came up with.
In other words, if the proverbial gun was pointed at my head, I’d say he re-ups with the Yankees. But if it’s just a matter of calling a bookie and laying out $150 to get back $1000, I’d say he’s gonna sign with the Cubs.
Of course, the above scenario is hypothetical as I don’t believe in violence (especially when it’s directed at me) and I still have hopes (misguided tho they may be) of making the BCB HoF someday – I want no betting smear on my record.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Play nice with different opinions
or I pull this over and take away your cd players in the backseat.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 30, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
i would be willing to bet 2 Big Gulps Al is right
and I dont even drink them
Chronologically inept since 2060
"I could be writing this crap!" -- Crow T. Robot
Me: Q: I can run but not walk. Wherever I go, thought follows close behind. What am I?
Wrigster A: Theriot
I say with 97 percent certainty he is gone
But one his mom dies… he could start missing the game again.
It’s more likely he is a bench coach though
"It's all in the game, yo"
meh..
that might have a little bearing. A new job could possibly have a little incentive for him to want a new challenge. I just think despite how much he will miss the game, he doesn’t have enough to give for a whole season of being a manager for anyone. Bench coach perhaps. Consultant, surely.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 30, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be shocked...
…if Lou managed again, but I would give it about a 20% chance.
When he gets time to recharge the batteries, he may have a change of heart.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Of course he'll be back, most likely to manage...
…Durocher may have been making the same “last time” clubhouse comments as Lou in July of ’72, but before the season was over he was managing the Astros. As a Stengel for the new century, Lou may resurface at an advanced age to manage the Mets or, more probably, as a push-button leader of an AL team that is ready to spend big.
Nobody, especially a man with Lou’s credentials, wants to go out this way. I’m sure he loves his mom, but he probably never had a team quit on him before, and that SD series, coupled with the horrendous Friday loss to the Braves may have led him to throw in the towel.
"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62
"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64
Yeah, he'll come back to manage.
… at the same time the city of Chicago re-routes Addison Street.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
That famous Jim Bouton "other way around" quote applies to a lifer like Lou...
…more than it does to most anyone else in baseball. He won’t be able to resist the right offer and, for the sake of making another accurate prediction, I believe he’ll get that offer and be back in uniform in 2011.
Although the Big Four let him down consistently in two playoffs and throughout this disastrous season, he still kept his cred with veteran players around baseball by keeping Lee and Ramirez in the middle of the lineup as they struggled for new or better contracts.
Also, he undoubtedly won some major points with owners around baseball by stepping down before his continued presence in the Cubs dugout contributed any further to the team’s total collapse that seemingly coincided with his original retirement announcement. The modest turnaround since Lou left is probably worth at least 5,000 extra bodies at Wrigley for each remaining game, and better ratings on all outlets.
Once he addresses his family obligations, he should be good to go for 2011.
"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62
"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64
Lou is 67 years old.
He has spent 48 years in baseball. He’s done.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Or he's not
Why do you so much about being right about this? It’s his life and we don’t know it.
"It's all in the game, yo"
No, we don't.
I can only go off his public pronouncements, which have seemed quite definitive.
Everyone else, including Larry Stone, is just guessing.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm sure it is how he feels right now
But once his mom passes and an Opening Day or two passes without him, he could get the urge again.
I think the real fear is that he will go somewhere else and succeed.
"It's all in the game, yo"
Not at all.
I’ll bet anyone here a Big Gulp that Lou never manages a team again. Maybe he’ll do some spring training consulting — but that’s it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra





















