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Ryan and his business partner, sports attorney Chuck Greenberg, won the team with a $593 million bid, including $385 in cash

$385 in cash? That's all? I could get that from my ATM in a couple of days. Guess I should have bid.

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Saw this on the ticker on Mike and Mike – I like this, especially considering he beat out Cuban for the team. Al, we need to start a donation link/savings account so everyone on BCB can begin chipping in money so that when the Cubs come for sale again we can have the $1billion necessary to buy the team.

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by hansman1982 on Aug 5, 2010 7:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Pay for the Cubs by Paypal?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

there ya go

if everyone paid .05 for each comment and $1.00 for each post we could have the cubs by 2015 – would hate to be one of the players on the cubs then, someone has a bad week and he is immediately DFA’d…and other GM’s would hate us - I will give you Theriot and Fukudome for Pujols…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 5, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

All we need is three of Al's ATMs

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 5, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Cuban offered more money

it will be interesting to see if he fights this.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 5, 2010 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Based on this quote from the article, I would guess he won't.
Despite losing, Cuban was smiling after the auction. His group dropped out of bidding after reaching a predetermined limit. Cuban, who also made an unsuccessful bid for the Chicago Cubs last year, said he wanted to buy the Rangers but remains an enthusiastic fan of the team—and of Ryan.

"I wish them the best," Cuban said, later ducking out a back door so television cameras and photographers would remain focused on Greenberg and Ryan, adding, "It’s their moment."

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care if he does,

but he might have a case.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 5, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter

how much Cuban and his group would have offered. His group was never going to be allowed to buy the team going up against Nolan and his group. MLB does not want Cuban owning a team and he never will. It’s the good old boys club, otherwise known as a bunch of spoiled rich kids sticking their tongues out at him and taunting him.

by ArmyCubFan on Aug 5, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

In this case, the decision wasn't made by MLB.

It was made by a bankruptcy judge.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I aologize for the non-reply earlier..

I had a 바보 moment. I forgot to add the quote from an article about the case. So I’ll attempt to post it.

Whatever the auction’s outcome, final approval of the sale rests with Major League Baseball. A league official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the AP on Tuesday that MLB intends to work with the winning bidder — although it has the option of choosing the second-highest bid.

by ArmyCubFan on Aug 5, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had a 바보 moment.

A what kind of moment?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

It means..

that I had a dumb/moronic/foolish moment. It’s just a korean word which I seem to use almost every day. I apologize for not putting that meaning in parens.

by ArmyCubFan on Aug 5, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is somewhat true

In this case the judge decided who won in the courthouse. However, while reading about this case it states: that the final decision is MLBs and MLB has the right to accept the second-highest bid. Which will not happen after the outcome of this bankruptcy court session. I am very happy for the Rangers and Ryan though, it’s a great marriage.

by ArmyCubFan on Aug 5, 2010 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Selig will never allow Cuban to own a team

It’s a shame. Cuban actually has ideas. Ryan has a name.

Enjoy your season, Rangers fans. Ryan is just one more former player who thinks he actually knows something about business because he made a lot of money.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Ryan has done a pretty good job as the President of the team

he helped put together the roster that is currently running away with the AL West title.

by HuskerCorner on Aug 5, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

And as soon as the Angels re-tool

the Rangers will be looking up at them again.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe D Lee can be at 1B for them?

Why do we not have the same feeling the Cubs will retool like the Angels?

by TJ11 on Aug 5, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because the Angels don't suck

they are safely in second and probably won’t make the playoffs, but they don’t suck.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly what ideas does Cuban have that would improve baseball?

Apart from being a self-promoter, that is.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

He would have ideas about

1) Marketing baseball to younger audiences
2) Incorporating new media
3) Instant Replay — I’d bet it happens sooner rather than later if Cuban is out there.

But I’m not surprised a traditionalist would want the old boys club to stay the same. After all, they’ve done such a GREAT job running things so far.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Replay?

Absolutely. You know I’m in favor of that.

New media? Well, they’re doing it, though not well. They need to start by eliminating blackouts.

Marketing baseball to younger audiences? Why is that something Mark Cuban knows about? He’s older than Tom Ricketts.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because he works in an industry

where the primary customer base is younger.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't necessarily translate to being able to market baseball.

They are two different industries.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

But same customers

Whatever. Cuban is more than a self-promoter

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

Not the same customers at all.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever

You’ve got it in your head that Cuban would upset the apple cart and is nothing more than a self-promoter. Moving on now.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're still wrong

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like you said

Whatever.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blackouts

As I have stated before are terrible and need to be eliminated. I live in a market where I get blackedout for Cardinals, Braves and Reds. I believe if any only the Cardinals should be blackedout.

by Cubsfan Waveland on Aug 5, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That could be asked about most all MLB owners

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Aug 5, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

What would you suggest Ricketts do?

Baseball is a lot different from basketball & football in making changes/moves.

You can’t just DFA a guy and move on when they are owed millions of dollars, you are only making the problem worse. I also think you don’t want to be known as an organization who DFAs somebody like Fukudome, DLee, Zambrano or Ramirez. These players have families and kids to think about just like we do, which is why I respected DLee and his decision to finish the season here.

I believe Fukudome will return to Japan after this season and the Cubs will be off most of his money, which could be used to help acquire a need in the off-season. I hate to say this but unless Hendry is really lucky this off-season don’t expect the Cubs to be contenders next year either. Maybe win 84 if they are really lucky. I would love to see Fukudome return to Japan and the Cubs not resign DLee(unless he takes a huge paycut) and pursue Cliff Lee but that is a pipe dream

Making changes or trades requires a willing partner. Which isn’t easy with most teams struggling financially or not needing the type of players we have to offer. Rickets could use a line from Lou and say “what do you want me to do?”

by Cubsfan Waveland on Aug 5, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

This was a very reasoned response.

Unfortunately, you took TJ11 seriously. He’s doing performance art.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Know how many Mavericks employees Cuban fired his first year there?

Zero.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 5, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he somehow managed to succeed

No championships, but the Mavs are a consistent power in a salary cap sport

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got blasted

for comparing success in a salary cap sport is similar to success in baseball…much easier when contracts are basically set for you by the leauge…plus attracting people to Dallas is a tad easier than attracting them to Minneapolis.

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by hansman1982 on Aug 6, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

The point about cities, I agree with you

But in the NBA, there are only about six teams that win championships. Literally.

Since 1980, the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Pistons, Rockets, and Spurs have won 28 of the 30 titles. The 1983 Sixers (only one of the greatest teams ever) and the 2006 Heat (A fluke year when some of the traditional powers were in transition) were the only exceptions.

For Cuban to interrupt that would be tough.

And you’re right, the salary structure is set, but the Mavs still have to pick the good players. Lots of NBA teams fail at that.

Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein

by Worf on Aug 6, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

true

but why has Cuban (in nearly 10 years there) failed to bring them to the promised land? I personally think he is just really good at being a self-promoter and has had one of the best forwards in the game with only 1 finals appearance…I wanted him to own the Cubs but after seeing how the Ricketts family has built their wealth I much prefer them…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 6, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

He bought the team Jan 2000. In 2000-2001 they went 53-29 in his first full year as owner.....

Why would they have made a change? They were winning!

The Cubs might be amazing but they have less wins than the Mavericks did that season so far……

So I think I may disagree. I don’t think he would have put up with the lethargic play from the players and manager.

by TJ11 on Aug 5, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cuban didn't have a higher bid

Despite what was being mentioned yesterday, Cuban did not have a higher bid according to this article. If he did, the bankruptcy judge would have voted in favor of Cuban rather than Ryan. If Selig tried to keep Cuban out in the hypothetical scenario that he had the highest bid and the bankruptcy judge ruled in favor of him, the Cuban would have a legitimate case for collusion. There’s a reason he’s shrugging it off and it’s because he didn’t have the highest bid.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

by Ace Venom on Aug 5, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Is it

possible that Cuban offered more total dollars but had less cash?

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Aug 5, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cuban did not offer more money

It was an auction. It was reported yesterday that Cuban had offered more money because he had. Then Greenberg/Ryan came up with more money and increased their bid. Cuban did not up his bid again.

I think it’s absolutely false that MLB would not allow Mark Cuban as an owner. Why? Because he’d criticize umpires? Who cares? He pays his fine and then moves on. In all labor agreements in the NBA, he’s been a big supporter of David Stern, which is all that Bud would really care about anyway.

But it doesn’t matter because he was outbid. He may end up buying another team one day. He’s been approved to bid twice now and if he ends up with an agreement to buy a different team, I think he’d be approved.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 5, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Slight correction

Cuban did offer a little bit more money, but it apparently came with some fees that lowered the amount that the sellers would actually receive to being less than what Greenberg/Ryan offered.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 5, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kurkijan said on Mike & MIke today

that baseball will never let Cuban in. They don’t like him. I think Reinsdorf has some beef with him that comes from the NBA.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saying that an actual reporter with actual contacts

is reporting that Cuban is being blackballed.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 5, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

whats wrong with that

if you have a business and you dont like someone are you going to let them in the door? Cuban isnt that special…he just got lucky in the dot com boom and had enough money to buy a basketball team. Also, unless I am mistaken he has exactly 0 championships as an owner and only 1 finals appearance. Get back to me that he is a great owner when he has at least 1 finals win…

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by hansman1982 on Aug 6, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mavs were one of the most horrible franchises in the NBA

and Cuban made them a power.

“Isn’t that special?”

He’s got a better life than you. He eats better, sleeps better, sleeps with better women and poops better.

Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. -- Albert Einstein

by Worf on Aug 6, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

damn you figured me out

…although my wife would disagree that he poops better…

…I am just thinking that he is the Sarah Jessica Parker of NBA owners – everyone thinks he is hot stuff but in reality he looks like a foot.

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by hansman1982 on Aug 6, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

i have heard that as well

and it would not surprise me one bit

Chronologically inept since 2060
"I could be writing this crap!" -- Crow T. Robot

by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 6, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

He got lucky in the dot com boom. Right.

Just like Carnegie got lucky in the steel boom and Rockefeller got lucky in the oil boom. If people didn’t want what any of them were selling they wouldn’t have ended up rich. It’s not like Cuban was born into money. He might act like an ass but he’s a smart guy.

by the nth on Aug 6, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

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