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Cubs' Frantic Comeback Falls One Run Short; Pujols HR Lands On Kenmore

Today, for the first time, BCB'er elgato ventured out to the left field bleachers to share a ballgame with me and my LF group.

At the very least, he can say he was entertained for three and a half hours. Jeff Samardzija looked absolutely pathetic against the Cardinals for four-plus innings. He issued six walks -- there were 18 bases on balls issued by both teams this afternoon -- and gave up a home run to Albert Pujols that hit off the back of the LF bleachers and was last seen bounding north on Kenmore Avenue, with ballhawks in hot pursuit. (Ken, perhaps you can fill us in on who eventually got the ball.)

The Cubs lost to the Cardinals 8-7, but not until five Cubs relievers had held St. Louis scoreless over the last 4.2 innings with only four hits, and the Cubs scoring runs in bunches in the fifth, sixth and seventh after spotting the Cardinals an 8-0 lead.

The Cubs' seven-run outburst was partly a gift, due to Cardinal errors by Brendan Ryan and Colby Rasmus; three runs were unearned. Rasmus overran a ball in the seventh inning hit by Xavier Nady that went for a single and a two-base error; a faster runner than Nady might have had an inside-the-park home run. Nady eventually scored when Kosuke Fukudome hit a fly ball down the left field line that was clearly foul; Matt Holliday caught it for a sac fly. 3B umpire Joe West -- every Cub fan's favorite -- called it a fair ball, which was ridiculous.

Star-divide

Incidentally, the Cubs hit no home runs today, which left them with 74 home runs at home in 2010. It's the first time a Cubs team has hit fewer than 75 HR in Wrigley in a season since 1993. (H/T: tweet from Carrie)

The Cubs got two more baserunners in the seventh thanks to a dropped third strike and a walk, and with Welington "Beef" Castillo up, there was hope of a tie, especially when Aramis Ramirez appeared on deck to pinch-hit. But Beef struck out and A-Ram never did appear.

So it all came down to a one-run deficit in the ninth inning and Aaron Miles, who had inexplicably been sent up to bat for Skip Schumaker in the top of the ninth, at second base. Maybe, we thought, Miles could make up for his dreadful 2009 season on the North Side by giving the Cubs a game.

As it turned out, he handled the ball on all three ninth-inning plays -- and nearly let Fukudome reach when he bobbled Kosuke's ground ball; Fukudome was out on a close play.

So thanks, Aaron, for nothing. With one more Cardinal loss or Reds win, you'll be watching the playoffs the same place all the rest of us will be -- on television.

A few more wraps on the home season: the Cubs finished 35-46 at home, the first time they have won fewer than 36 home games in a season since 1999, when they went 34-47. Attendance today was 38,057 (maybe 28,000 or so in the house on a chilly afternoon), bringing the season total to 3,062,973, the seventh straight year of three million or more. However, it is the smallest total since 2003 and the average of 37,814 is down 1,797 from last year's average (down about 4.5%) -- and the total in the house, obviously, is down more than that. I'd estimate there may have been as many as 500,000 no-shows this season -- and that's a warning shot across the bow of the ship of ticket sales, which has been full speed ahead for many years. Perhaps not so in the future; I've written about this before and will again before next year.

In the meantime, there are seven road games remaining, four in San Diego where the Cubs will have a chance to help decide the NL West champion and perhaps the wild card winner as well, followed by three to end the season in Houston. The Cubs trail the Astros by 3.5 games with seven left for the Cubs and six for Houston; the Astros will play a three-game series at Cincinnati before the Cubs come to Houston.

And if anyone has any photos of the rookie hazing of the Cubs, please post them or email them to me and I'll post them. I hear the costumes were quite creative.

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Why do they Samardzija the "Shark"?

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 26, 2010 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Does this answer your question?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh. I thought it was the two word review for this album.

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

cool

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I meant why do they call Samardzjia the "Shark"?

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 26, 2010 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Look above.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sad day for you AL?

I bet it was tough walking out knowing the home season was over. Thanks for covering each game from your left field corner. Your cubbie persistence is appreciated!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Sep 26, 2010 9:19 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

It always is sad to leave Wrigley for the last time in any year.

We do at least have a week’s worth of Cubs baseball on TV, then four weeks of playoffs.

And, I’ll be back at Wrigley on 11/20 for the NU/Illinois game.

Thanks for the compliment. Always appreciated. See you in Mesa.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

When do pitchers and catchers report? Any idea when it will be announced?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 27, 2010 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The first spring training game will be February 27.

So figure about two weeks before that. The official dates will be announced, likely, sometime in December or early January. I’ll post the dates when I find out.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

For me?

Not yet.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

For we exiles, your daily reports are awesome

thanks again for your commitment and excellent writing. for those of us stuck away from chicago it helps a ton. was at friday’s game and there was no energy at all in the crowd. sad for a cubs/cards series.

You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. - Al Capone

by RTGrules on Sep 27, 2010 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, It is sad that last time of the year.

I actually cried looking over the field last year. This year…no. Still felt sad though. Bummed I couldn’t be there. We had tickets, but I got into a show so I couldn’t go. My son went and texted me pbp each inning which was great.

He said they sang “Go Cubs Go” before the game. Was he putting me on? I’ve been saying for a long time that it would make more sense before than after. Is that a last day tradition?

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, they didn't.

One thing the team did do was come on to the field before the game and toss autographed baseballs to fans — hundreds of balls. Nice gesture.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's cool.

I can’t believe I fell for my son’s tale. Wonder what else he lied about. Did the organ really play jingle bells after the game? Did they have a popcorn tin giveaway?

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard Jingle Bells at one point.

They gave away cups with a coupon for a discount on a popcorn tin. Kind of lame, if you ask me.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

One mans junk is another man's treasure.

I’m a popcornaholic. Which is why I thought he may have made it up to tease me. Kind of a na na na na na…you’re not here thing.

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shoulda had a give-away like the end of the 2000 season

IIRC it being 2000, they gave away a baseball sized Cubs glass Christmas ornament. Every year it goes on the tree next to my Blackhawks version.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still have that.

Since I’m Jewish and don’t celebrate Christmas, it’s still in the original giveaway box in my office.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

YES, they absolutely DID.

It was played while the players were walking around the outfield throwing said balls into the crowd. I made a comment to Angelo, an usher, that it seemed that it might jinx the game (it did). There were two Cardinal fans buying beers at the time and one just about screamed in my ear, “I hate this song.” I smiled knowing that wearing only t-shirts, those girls would be long gone by the time the game ended.

Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.

by section229beer on Sep 27, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well then.

I guess I’m not that gullible after all. Hmm…I didn’t think of the jinxing. That must’ve been why they lost.

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, I'll take your word for it.

I didn’t hear the song while I was watching the players throw the balls into the stands.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just talked to him.

He said they played it. Not sang it.

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Must have been on the organ, then.

No wonder I didn’t hear it, I usually tune that out.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could not beleive all

the St, Louis fans in T-Shirts. and shorts . Have they ever heard of the Weather Channel ? Or common sense ? We will catch up with you next spring have a good off season .

by cubs north on Sep 27, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

They Come From "Down South"

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Sep 27, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so sad
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone.

~A. Bartlett Giamatti, "The Green Fields of the Mind
:(

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is beautifully said/sad.

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The bullpen did a great job today!

Hopefully this will help them gain confidence in their pitching. Also, I wanted to add that while we all freak out about how bad the bullpen is and how it needs to be improved next year, we should take into account injured players. The cubs need to obviously add another arm, but they will essentially be adding two new arms with Guzman and Grabow (who hopefully will not be horrible). Basically, that should lock up four places in the cubs bullpen with Marmol (closer) Marshall (lefty setup) Guzman (right setup) Grabow (extra lefty). If Silva gets moved to the pen that takes up a fifth spot and he would be the long man. Additionally, James Russell could be the potential LOOGY. Thus, that would then leave one bullpen spot open…for a new player. As long as everyone is healthy, that bullpen does not look bad at all.

by mdcubsfan on Sep 26, 2010 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with you that...

…. Russell could work well as a lefty specialist, and Grabow, healthy, will be better — at least as good as he was with the Pirates.

That gives the Cubs five relievers penciled in: Marmol, Marshall, Cashner (I believe Cashner will be a reliever at least one more year), Russell and Grabow.

It’s not as far from being fixed as some might think.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but I wouldn't count on him.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

anybody hear how he's doing?

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 26, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter

He should not be counted on for anything.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes sir!

:)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

They should assume he won't be back

with his history there is little reason to expect him to be of much use, butif he does come back, it’s a bonus

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Sep 26, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll hope he is then...

he was a great bullpen presence in 2009, though I wonder if it was too much of a workload for him.

by mdcubsfan on Sep 26, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a big fan of signing FA's

but Jesse Crain would fill that other spot nicely. And maybe Maine instead of Russell. He has looked good.

by SouthWabashSoul on Sep 27, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Compare our pen to the Padres...

and then let me know if that statement still holds true.

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Sep 27, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want it to merely be "fixed" - I want it to dominate!

Dominate, intimidate, and frustrate the hell out of the other team! That’s what a bullpen should do.

To that end, I still think we need at least one more quality arm to the pen, be it FA or via trade. Having said that, I’d also add Maine to your list of in-house options for next year. Yeah, so maybe the guy doesn’t “get it” w.r.t. signing autographs and fan interaction, but if he can be a mean mf sob out on the mound and stick it to the other team on a regular basis, I’d be very happy.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Sep 27, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shark was shaky

from first pitch on . I know the game meant nothing to the Cubs . I may have pulled him much earlier in the game . At any rate he heads back to Iowa .I assume we will see him in Mesa .

by cubs north on Sep 26, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I wonder if they try to deal him in the offseason.

I know he has about $2 million left on his contract, but maybe some other team takes a chance on him. I realize he has a NTC, but I doubt he has much future with the Cubs.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

can you trade a player to the Bears?

he might be best as a WR

Chronologically inept since 2060
"I could be writing this crap!" -- Crow T. Robot
Me: Q: I can run but not walk. Wherever I go, thought follows close behind. What am I?
Wrigster A: Theriot

by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 26, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we get Devin Aromashodu?

I just wanna hear Ronnie try to pronounce it…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 26, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

$10 million bucks...

…down the drain, along with the not trade and guaranteed 40 man roster spot.

That was a bad, bad use of resources and IMO, one of Hendry’s biggest errors in judgment.

No one will pick this guy up unless the Cubs eat about 75% of his dough.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 27, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad he can't get to the Bears some how

He’d fit in Martz’s system IMO.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope the Cubs realize

that the Shark has no business above AAA in 2011. Just put him in Iowa and tell him he won’t see Chicago until September at the earliest. I don’t know if he’ll ever earn his contract but the team is doing him no favor pretending he belongs in the majors.

And it was nice to see Soriano go 0-5 again as he rushes to finish below .250 for the season. Can the Cubs afford to hand him LF next year and still contend?

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Sep 26, 2010 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Can the Cubs afford to hand him LF next year and still contend?

They really don’t have much of a choice, do they? Forget the batting average; Soriano had a bad day today but has an .804 OPS and an OPS+ of 109. He has had a decent year.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano is hitting .242

the 2nd half with a .742 OPS. I predict that’s close to what we can expect in 2011. defense is terrible, he seldom hustles and he has very low baseball instincts. Can anyone justify seeing him start 150 games for us next year? and 1012 and 2013 and 2014? When do we take our loss on him?

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Sep 26, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have this eternal hope that he will return next year

and will magically hit 35 homeruns and .300. That would be amazing. If that happened, wow! This team would be SOOOOOO much better!

but…alas, the chances are basically 1 in a million…

by mdcubsfan on Sep 26, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you're being overly optimistic

with your odds. Have you seen any evidence that he is improving? This year he blamed it on the rest of the team. I’ve just given up on him and his attitude and his lack of baseball instincts.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Sep 26, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano has never given us what we paid for

and sucks. He starts all next year in left and this team is going nowhere. He’s a joke and anybody who thinks otherwise is drunk on Cubs Koolaide!

"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"

by Itchy on Sep 27, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

The Tribune doesn’t own this team anymore so those type of bad deals won’t happen anymore.

by shoemile on Sep 27, 2010 4:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never given us what we paid for?

The Cubs don’t win the 2007 NL Central without Soriano’s hot September.

He’s been injured every Cub season except this year; his numbers this year aren’t All-Star level, but he’s been decent.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

The trouble isn’t that Soriano was never worth his contract. The problem is that he was NEVER going to be worth his contract for eight years.

We can debate whether that was a necessary evil to get him in the first place, to get fans back after 2006 and to make other free agents look at the Cubs. But when a guy only performs to his contract in two of the eight years, well, I’d consider the deal a risk that didn’t pay enough dividends.

That’s assuming, of course, that Soriano won’t revert to his old form anytime soon. Which I think is a safe assumption, sadly.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately a very safe assumption.

He seems a very different player from the big year here in DC.

I think a lot of it is that Soriano was never a fundamentally sound player. He got by on sheer raw talent which in his case was a lot. However as he is aging and losing speed and quickness, he doesn’t have the fundamentals to fall back on. Ignoring the numbers from 2009 based on injuries, the numbers from 2010 are a significant dropoff from 2008.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

The other problem ...

is that he’s already 34. Guys don’t usually improve in their mid-30s, unless they’re Barry Bonds.

I’m not a big Soriano hater. But I see him for what he is — someone the Cubs will probably have to work around for the next four years. And that’s sad.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'll see.

A number of us, myself included, said that if the Cubs won the WS in the first 2-3 years of the deal, we wouldn’t care about the rest.

That window is closed, obviously, now. We can only hope that Soriano can put forth one or two more All-Star level seasons before the deal is over. We’re stuck with him.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with that.

If the Cubs had won the WS in 2007 or 2008, we probably could look past Soriano not being worth his contract for six of the eight years.

But we didn’t … so I don’t really think we can.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but that didn't happen

So we can get rid of him any time now. He is a joke and any pitcher worth his salt can get him out without ever throwing a strike.

"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"

by Itchy on Sep 27, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

No & no to the first 2 questions

On the 3rd, hopefully we’ll catch a break in a couple years and the Cubs can get some not-as-bad money back like they did with Silva.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You

in the past you have mentioned that Soriano has had a decent year. I think you really must belief that. I disagree. Forget the money he is paid. His numbers and play in my opinion have stunk, period. I guess this is the kind of LF you have on a losing team.

Go Cubs!

by wild bill on Sep 27, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

The trouble is ...

that Soriano had a good first half. Al, ever the optimist, is probably thinking more of that. While you’re doing the opposite.

I’m not sure I’d say Soriano had a ‘good’ year, but it wasn’t awful, and it was better than his play in 2009. He’ll never be worth his contract, he makes some really bad baseball decisions. At the same time, he’s considered to be a good guy and he has a thick, boo-proof skin.

He’s a complete mixed bag to me. I hate that we’re paying somebody $18 million to hit sixth (or even seventh) and to play a position that’s arguably easiest to fill on the field. But he is what he is — and I do think that the Cubs can be a winning team with him as the starting left fielder.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, don't get Jessica started.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 26, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

BRING BACK JAKE FOX SWEETHEART

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Sep 27, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are getting dangerously close to inciting the wrath of Jessica.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 26, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't look now, but Soriano is the 5th most valuable LF in the NL -- THIS YEAR

According to Fangraphs’, Soriano WAR of 2.9 is fifth among all NL LFs with at least 400 plate appearances. How did he manage that? By being the best fielding LF in the league:

http://bit.ly/deIDUR

I know, right? What a shock.

by chasfh on Sep 27, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Game Recap in one sentence: Jeff Samardzija isn’t a major league starter.

by Bad Midget on Sep 26, 2010 10:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Yep, and he better be in Iowa or on a another team next year,

"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"

by Itchy on Sep 27, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Preferably another team

I’m ready to call the experiment over. The guy can’t throw anything other than 95 mph and he can’t control it. This guy is frustrating to watch. Non tender him in the off season or stash him in Iowa where we won’t see him til September. We have so many other guys who deserve the spot in the rotation.

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Sep 27, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't "non-tender" him.

He is already under contract — the last year of his five year deal.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh that's right

He sucks so much you can’t even get rid of him!

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Sep 27, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nor will he ever be ...

SEnd him back to play football or what ever . Some how Cubs brass cant get that thru their heads .

by cubs north on Sep 27, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round."

Gaylord Perry

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 26, 2010 11:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

500k no-shows eh?

I was going to ask since I barely made it to a quarter of the season. I would have guessed 2.65-2.7M but you’re thinking more along the lines of 2.55M. Wow…it is a shot across the bow.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 27, 2010 8:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Cubs picked a fine time for a not-quite-enough comeback

Down 8-0 and then the Cubs start to score!?! Like I really needed all those pitching changes with that wonderful wind peeling a layer of flesh from my face.

As for Aaron Miles, I incurred a wrathful gaze from my usher as I yelled an obsenity from the right field corner. By the bottom of the 9th inning, it was hard for the usher not to hear me.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Sep 27, 2010 8:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, for letting me hang with your crew yesterday, Al.

I had a really good time.

I’m surprised that you didn’t write about Quade’s odd decision to allow Scales to hit to end the game when Aramis was on the bench. There was an actual chance that Aramis could have tied the game with one swing. Scales, not so much.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 8:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I thought about that, too.

There was no reason not to PH Aramis somewhere in that ninth inning.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not as if Aramis wasn't available.

But oh, well. Thanks again! Maybe I can join you for Opening Day next year.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would love to do that, or any time next year.

Just let me know.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

No mention

 of Snyder getting another two out pinch hit for two RBI’s.

Go Cubs!

by wild bill on Sep 27, 2010 8:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Brad Snyder is almost 28.

He’s the latest version of Micah Hoffpauir. He is not part of the Cubs’ future.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

But some will hope

Matt Murton, Jake Fox, Micah Hoffpauir, Brad Snyder.

The problem is the Cubs have had so few real hitting prospects in the past 10 years that people forget what a real one is. Even one with some ability but limitations like Colvin are projected as All-Star caliber.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt Colvin will ever be an All-Star.

Though a year ago, no one thought he was in the Cubs’ long-term plans at all. So he has surprised us before.

Regardless, I think Colvin will be a big part of the Cubs in the next few years because he’s a decent No. 5/No. 6 hitter, who bats left and who plays the outfield. The fact that we have guys like that — who are cost-controlled — means that the team will be less likely to hand $5 million contracts to the likes of Jacque Jones.

Also, Colvin has none of the flaws that Murton, Fox, Hoff and Snyder had/have. He has legit power, he’s good defensively AND he’s not knocking on 30.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

I didn’t mean to imply that Colvin was the same as the others. Colvin is a real prospect and has real value. I just think some people are expecting a little too much from him. I’ve compared Colvin to someone like Todd Hollandsworth but Colvin will probably have a little more power. Hollandsworth had a 12 year career and ended with a .273 / .328 / .439 line. Not bad.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Somehow I doubt Soriano would get 200 hits in Japan like Murton....

His hustling skills might clash with most in that league as well….

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

you also said the when i suggested Snyder be brought up he would not because he was not on the forty man roster. Oh and he is 28 years old.

Go Cubs!

by wild bill on Sep 27, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what's your point?

He’s still not part of the future of this team.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Neither one could do that.

They are both Quad-A players.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

Colvin is younger than Snyder or Hoffpauir and not comparable.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well I did draft him for my fantasy team

so I had some faith in him. Both he and Andres Torres gave me a cheap boost. Unfortunately both ended up on the DL down the stretch.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had Colvin as well....

But I had to drop him when Lou forgot he was on the team…

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Curious what your thoughts were...

on Casey McGehee when we still had him in AAA?

Personally, I thought then we were wrong for letting him go. He had put up solid numbers at AAA and was ready for a backup/utility role then.

I still think Synder could have a role on this team next year. I’d rather have him than Sori right now!

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Sep 27, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

McGehee was a pretty big surprise.

His numbers at AAA weren’t “solid”. They were pretty pedestrian. Not once did he have an .800 OPS in the minors, and overall his OPS was .741. There is absolutely nothing in his minor league record that would have indicated he’d be this good in the major leagues.

Now, that said, with skills at both catcher and 3B, he did have some value. Jim Hendry has often helped out players who were “blocked” by trying to find them other situations (Scott Moore and Jake Fox are good examples). If he’d have known that the Brewers were interested enough in McGehee to sign him right away, maybe he could have made a deal, got a low-level prospect in return. That would have been better than an outright release.

You can’t be serious about having Snyder over Soriano. That would be a colossal mistake.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely not.

Hoffpauir had one hot streak in 2008 and that is it. I would take Snyder over Hoffpauir though if I had to guess.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would too.

My point is that many cheap players could put up close to Soriano’s stats.

He should not play just based on his contract. But you correct, unless you get a REALLY strong willed manager willing to buck management and put the best player out there…He is going to play for 4 more years and we will be weak in LF all of that time.

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Years from now when more books are written about the Cubs

and why they did not go all the way . Soriano’s name will appear next to Hendry’s . New fans will read the books and shake their heads the same as we do .

by cubs north on Sep 27, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

FTFY :)

 Soriano has 2 short hot streaks a year it seams….The rest of the time he is truly amazing!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

My point

is stranger things have happened. I do not put Snyder in the same class as Hoffpauier. Snyder was the Indians #1 pick. He has had injuries that have delayed his career path. His first two years in the Cubs organization were cut short by freaky injuries.
Although you might not believe he is part of the future, you also were wrong about them adding Snyder to the 40 man roster. What makes you so sure he is not apart of the future? Chances are you are right, but how do you know for sure?

Really I find your view point of him being 28 rather a generalization of players that age that have been in the minors their whole career. I feel if Snyder would not have had the injuries he would have had his shot a couple years ago. For sake of argument, what if he plays his ass of this Sept. Comes back to ST and repeats what Colvin did this past ST. I don’t care if he is 28 you can still get 4-5 productive years out of him and cost controlled as well.

All I am saying is give the man a shot. Don’t discard because of his age.

Go Cubs!

by wild bill on Sep 27, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Snyder was Cleveland's #1 pick...

in 2003, seven years ago. If he were going to turn into anything, it would have happened long ago.

28-year-old career minor leaguers don’t turn into productive major league players. It just doesn’t happen. Name one in the last 30 years. I repeat: it just doesn’t happen.

Let’s move on. Snyder will be one of a dozen guys cut from the 40-man roster. It’s time to turn the page.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure can

name one. Bobby Scales:)

Go Cubs!

by wild bill on Sep 27, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I said "productive".

Scales is not productive. And when I say that, I mean over a period of several years, not one partial season (as Scales had in 2009).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you really

think I was serious?

Go Cubs!

by wild bill on Sep 27, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows?

People seem to be serious here about Hoffpauir and Snyder.

All they are is the latest version of Jason Dubois.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Al have

you ever known me to be serious? I am light hearted soul roaming around earth until my days are over.

Go Cubs!

by wild bill on Sep 27, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

But you sure seemed to be serious about Snyder.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I must

admit I normally do not get on the band wagon of the Hoffpauirs of the world, but for some reason I like this guy. Yes you most likely are right about his plight with the Cubs, but being a lifer I always try to look for that interesting story line that Snyder could bring.

Go Cubs!

by wild bill on Sep 27, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Overall I agree with you

but you can’t say it doesn’t happen. Andres Torres is an example.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a freak.

Plus, when I say “productive”, I mean becoming a solid major league regular for more than just one year.

Torres — a fluke.

Here’s the last guy I can think of who became a productive major leaguer for more than one fluke season after not really getting a chance until he was about 28.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Davey Lopes

He goes back further than Mike Easler. I had no idea that Lopes didn’t break into the majors until he was 27 years old.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Sep 27, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

why does he have to be "productive" for more than just one year?

I’d settle for that one year and find another “productive” one the next year. You really do get all close-minded about this age thing, Al.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Sep 27, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just can't understand...

… why people are excited about a guy like Brad Snyder, who really has zero chance of becoming any sort of regular player. If he were 22 and had put up a year like that at Iowa — maybe. But he’s 28. The age DOES make a difference.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan Ludwick

is someone who fits the profile of top prospect with a career derailed by Inury only to resurge later in life with another team. He turned 28 during his season with Cardinals.

"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root

by TheRiot Police on Sep 27, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forgot About Luddy

He was 28 during his 2007 season with the Cards, when he finally stuck in the bigs. It should be noted that he spent time with the Rangers and Indians before getting to St. Louis. He first broke into the big leagues with Texas in 2002 at the age of 23. I don’t see Brad Snyder as the next Ryan Ludwick, though.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Sep 27, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ludwick isn't really a comp.

He had almost 400 major league plate appearances over three seasons before he finally broke through with the Cardinals.

Plus, he was a far better minor league hitter at a younger age than Snyder.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cust had almost 200 MLB plate appearances by the time he was 28.

Cruz, over 500.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cust never had 100 PAs in a season

and never hit more than 4 HRs in a year before he was 28. The year he turned 28, he hit 26 HRs with a .912 OPS.

You said 28 year olds don’t turn into productive major league players and name one, and I just did.

Actually I named two, as Cruz never had much impact until he was 28.

by azjazzman on Sep 27, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan Ludwick?

Sat on the MLB bench more than in AAA, but also a late bloomer.

by cubmudgeon on Sep 27, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

Give the kid a chance next year!

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Sep 27, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

Snyder is not a “kid”. He will be 29 next year. Among the players around the same age as Snyder are David Wright, Robinson Cano and Adrian Gonzalez. There are 24 major leaguers Snyder’s age who have had 1000+ major league plate appearances, five more who have had at least 100 major league starts, and three more who have at least 100 major league saves.

If Snyder were going to be a major league regular, he’d have been there already.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jim Eisenreich

The only guy I can think of who had a good, not great, major league career, who didn’t stick in the big leagues until age 28 was Jim Eisenreich. Notice I said he didn’t stick in the bigs until age 28. He first came up with the Twins at age 23 in 1982. He had an awful bout with Tourette’s Syndrome that derailed his career. Eisenreich made an amazing comeback in the Royals organization and finished his big league career with 1160 hits and a World Series ring with the Marlins. He was also a member of the 1993 NL champion Phillies. Brad Snyder is no Jim Eisenreich and has never had Tourette’s Syndrome.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Sep 27, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

Eisenreich’s troubles were due to Tourette’s — he was a highly touted prospect who was expected to be an All-Star. It’s not even a remotely comparable situation.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

In one AB, Snyder drove in 1 more run than Soriano has in the last 2 weeks....

Why is he rewarded with starts? Because of his bloated contract?

He should have to earn his job next year. It would be nice if he earned his contract.

I don’t care how old a player is. I would rather watch a player who is hungry for playing time and excited to be in the big leagues than someone who has coasted all year and has a hard time running out a groundball.

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano is here for 4 more years

The Cubs are not going to sit him on the bench for the next 4 years. I know you want to see that but it is silly to expect it.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

For now I am talking about a week in meaningless games....

Let someone who is giving 100% play……He had his chance when in mattered.

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

But if you make 18 million, you should be able to beat out a minor league OF for playing time, right?

If Soriano made the minimum, does anybody think his job would be so safe….

Its sad that money makes out the lineup card….

I hope we get a manager who can see outside of that.

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

But that is unrealistic

No manager will bench $18 million for 4 years. That appears to be what you want.

Play Snyder now if you want, it doesn’t mean anything. Come next spring, Soriano will be the left fielder regardless of the manager.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you....

All I am saying is play the kids now….

This team is in 5th place…..Nobody has earned starts at the end. (This includes Hill, Quade!)

But next spring play the people who will win us the most games!

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with that

but many of the kids aren’t kids and will have no spot on the 2011 team. I do agree with you on Castillo though but I wonder if Quade is more interested in seeing the pitchers than Castillo and as a result prefers the veteran Hill.

As for Hoffpauir, Snyder and Scales, I personally don’t care if they play or not.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would rather see them than the players who dissapointed us this year.

Many of the younger pitchers played with Castillo in the minors. I would think that would make them more comfoprtable.

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Castillo, yes, I agree with you.

But Hoffpauir, Snyder and Scales? Why? These guys are not part of a championship future with the Cubs.

Bobby Scales was born in 1977. He’s the same age as Juan Pierre, for heaven’s sake. From all accounts he’s a great guy and might have a future in the organization as a coach. I really don’t see the point in playing him at all, unless you’re in a long extra-inning game, a blowout, or someone gets hurt.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Colvin was the only young player who has a future with this team who was losing playing time to Soriano. I suppose Fuld could be with the team next year, but he’s actually gotten a good bit of time already.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon, TJ.

It’s not like Brad Snyder is Ted Williams.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not pining for Snyder....just sick of Soriano.

Is anybody really excited to see him bat anymore?

He could not play next year and it would not hurt the Cubs….He is easily replaceable…..But sadly, his contract is not.

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand.

But if the alternative is the Hoff or Snyder, I’m fine letting Soriano play. None of them are that entertaining right now.

Now, I’d be fine giving Fuld a few starts in left this week (assuming Byrd is back to play center).

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuld would be fine too.

Bring up Adduci, he’s a prospect!

Whatever, just make him sit. Right now it does not matter and we will get more production from minor leaguers.

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

Adduci isn’t a prospect either. He’ll be 26 next year.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, if you're going to be a major league regular...

… yes, you should definitely be on the prospect radar by 22, or maybe 24 if you played major college ball.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, of course not.

But the likelihood of someone who is 28 — Snyder — becoming any sort of useful MLB player after so much minor league time, never being dominant, is extremely small.

Call it “Micah Hoffpauir Syndrome.”

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather see the AAA kids play

they bring a lot more excitement to the team than the crew who got us to where we are right now.

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Sep 27, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It has nothing to do with who will be here next year!

And maybe, by chance, you might discover something!

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

But they're NOT kids.

None of the guys who COULD spell Soriano in left is young/has a future with the organization. And watching Hoff is far less interesting than Soriano.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you.

A voice of reason. All the “kids” who could contribute are already starting or playing semi-regularly — Castro, Barney, Colvin before he got hurt. Cripes, Blake DeWitt is younger than all these supposed “kids”.

The only one who should be getting more time is Castillo.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now, on that I'm in agreement.

There’s no reason Castillo shouldn’t catch at least three of the seven remaining games.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only reason to sit Soriano ...

is to send him a message. But Quade isn’t going to do that because he’s an interim manager without enough clout to sit an $18 million player who hasn’t done anything THAT terrible and who isn’t blocking a legit prospect from getting some major-league experience. It’s not an awesome thing to do, but a lot of veterans stop giving 110 percent in the final weeks of a lost season.

If Quade DID sit a healthy Soriano without Colvin or a decent replacement available, it would only poison the Soriano-Quade relationship should Quade return in 2011.

That said, I doubt Soriano will play in each and every one of the final seven games.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He rarely gives 110%....

Quade can only send messages to rookies I guess.

But I agree with you.

I only hope our next manager has the balls to do what needs to be done, whatever their status and salary is.

by TJ11 on Sep 27, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano's effort is a really interesting question.

I’ve heard some things about how badly Soriano was hurt in 2007, and how quickly he returned, that make me think he’s got more heart and enthusiasm than is apparent sometimes.

For Soriano and Ramirez, I can understand why it’s hard to stay focused right now. They’ve both played in some very high-pressure situations now, they have to fight through the final weeks of a lost season.

That’s not condoning their actions. But I’m not all that surprised at what I’ve seen of late.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly, TJ?

I don’t remember seeing much of what you’re describing. Aramis was hurt and should have been put on the DL much sooner than he was. And Soriano was good enough in the first half to get some All-Star consideration.

If anything, Soriano’s said all year that he wants to stay healthy and play as much as possible. He’s not worth his contract … but I don’t think he’s been mailing it in all year.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beef?

That isn’t a nickname, it is a “Chris Berman”-ism.

"I knew when I left that restaurant that night that he was our guy." ~ Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Jan 2009.

by rlpete on Sep 27, 2010 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

It still fits.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Sep 27, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Bermanator

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Sep 27, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Check out the piece of art we bought this weekend!

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Very nice

Post another pic when you have it mounted in your Cubs-hall-of-fame.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 27, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

We were planning to put it in our kitchen

which is black/white and red, but it’s slightly larger than we expected and doesn’t fit. It would have looked perfect there. Right now it’s above the couch in the living room. Not exactly the look I was going for in there, but it’s starting to grow on me.

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This looks really cool close up.

It’s acrylic on canvas and mounted on wood that he cut in that shape. Then it’s trimmed with metal. He really caught the look of the neon on the lettering.

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

ooo, that does sound cool,

someone asked me how I could wear a Cubs t-shirt anymore this season, I looked at her and laughed. She should see my house all year long, I have a Cubs tattoo now for god’s sake, and she’s asking me about a t-shirt!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I decorate the house for Opening Day as if it were a holiday. I drape ivy all over the place.

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should say it says NL East Division Champions

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was extra

♪♫ Take me out WITH the crowd.
Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

she's pointing to the sign!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm confused about your Joe West comment, Al...

I didn’t see the game, so I may need more explanation. If Holliday caught the fly ball (fair or foul), then what does it matter whether West called it fair or foul? It’s a sac fly either way, right?

by SouthernCub on Sep 27, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Of course.

But if it’s a foul ball, maybe Holliday lets it drop and the run doesn’t score.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 27, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't Blame Holliday for Taking the Out, Though

It wasn’t the tying run that scored on that play. It wasn’t the ninth inning, either.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Sep 27, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

I didn’t see the play, but unless it’s the 9th and it’s a 1-run game, you almost always take the out when it’s given to you. I can’t remember seeing a player intentionally not catch a foul ball in the 7th inning.

by SouthernCub on Sep 27, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holliday has to make that decision on his own

He’s not going to know if West is going to call it fair or foul until after he catches it (or lets it drop).

And though I am extremely loath to defend Joe West on anything, I’m guessing Holliday was running, drifting, or in some form of motion as he caught the ball – sometimes that movement can play tricks on one’s extrapolation efforts. Had Holliday let it drop, seeing as how the foul line is stationary, it’s easier for West to see where the ball lands relative to the line and make the right call.

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by ballhawk on Sep 27, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he had let it drop

And it was fair, I’d have ragged on his defensive prowess even more.
 
Man, were the Cards ever bad on D this series.

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by Clutch16 on Sep 27, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I frankly think the Cardinals are falling fast.

Wainright and Pujols are both great, Holliday’s a good second-tier guy and Carpenter is still pretty good. But the rest of the team isn’t that impressive. I wouldn’t be surprised if they finish below .500 in 2011.

by elgato on Sep 27, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

As for that Pujols homer...

Sorry I didn’t post earlier but I left right after game yesterday and was computerless until now.

Wind was blowing in pretty strong but Albert’s pretty strong so I was out there. Heard the crack, heard the roar, saw the fans turn their heads, so I started in that general direction. Then I saw the ball come up and I knew I had it – it was just going to clear the bleachers but I was running and I knew I was going to reach the spot in time to make an easy backhanded grab. Another guy was more in line with it but he wasn’t moving up fast enough – it would have bounced in front of him.

Only problem is, the ball didn’t clear the entire bleachers. At the last second, it hits the top of the last railing and deflects upward and outward from its original path. Which was more than enough to go over my head, land in the street and bounce down the sidewalk along west side of Kenmore.

Several people were in hot pursuit, but didn’t matter. The ball bounced right to the ‘doorman’ from that yellow brick rooftop building on the corner. Even though the building fronts Waveland, the entrance is on the side, down Kenmore, so there’s always a guy there to let the paying customers in and keep the local riff-raff out.

Seriously, the ball bounced right to him – he didn’t have to move. All I could do was watch and ponder how this game truly is a matter of inches sometimes. One less little gust of wind and that ball clears the railing. Seeing as how it was the Cardinals, I then thought of Joaquin Andujar’s famous quote about summing up baseball in one word – “You never know”.

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by ballhawk on Sep 27, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

cool story tho!

sorry you didn’t catch that one

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by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It looked like Uribe's first HR the other night went out.

Did you happen to get that one?

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by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it did get out but no, I didn't get it. Wasn't there for the game.

Rich, the oldest ballhawk out there (he’s over 60), got it. He’s a big Sox fan as well, so he remembered Uribe from his White Sox days as a strong pull hitter. Sure enough, Uribe hits it down the line and Rich makes the easy grab, one bounce off the building.

Cody Ross hit one out that night too, but that was to deep left-center, and one of the kids ran it down.

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by ballhawk on Sep 27, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool. Thanks for the update.

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Buy me some peanuts and cracker jack,
I don't care if I NEVER get back ♪♫ Jack Norworth and Albert Von Tilzer

by katie casey on Sep 27, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

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