Cubs vs. Padres Preview, Monday 9/27, 9:05 CT: The NL West Race Beckons Again
Last week, the Cubs did the Padres a favor by losing two of three to the Giants at Wrigley Field.
This week, the Cubs could return that favor -- or help out the Giants again by defeating San Diego. If they do, maybe the Giants could give the Cubs a cut of their playoff revenue?
Yes, that's a joke. The Giants are 88-68 and lead the 87-68 Padres by half a game. In turn, the Padres currently lead the wild card by half a game over the 87-69 Braves. While the Cubs are in San Diego for four, the Giants are off today, then play three vs. the Diamondbacks at home. The Giants and Padres play each other to end the season next weekend, in San Francisco. Meanwhile, the Braves have three against the Marlins at home, then three vs. the Phillies at home. There has never been a three-way tie for a postseason berth (or two, in this case) in MLB history. If the Giants, Braves and Padres all finish with identical records, the Giants and Padres would play one game for the NL West title; the loser would then play the Braves for the wild card.
In a year that's been so disappointing for the Cubs, being part of critical games -- even for another team -- at the end of the season, makes them more interesting. I'd love to see the three-way tie. Let's go ... tie!
Tonight's lineup via tweet from Carrie:
#Cubs lineup vs #Padres Mon night: RF Fuke, SS Castro, CF Byrd, 3B Ramy, 1B Nady, LF Sori, 2B DeWitt, C Hill, P Zambrano
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Tim Stauffer has made one career start (in 2005, so largely irrelevant) and one relief appearance (a scoreless inning on August 18 at Wrigley Field) against the Cubs. Aramis Ramirez is 1-for-3 against him. He's pitched pretty well (2.57 ERA in 21 innings over four starts) for the Padres since joining the rotation in September.
Carlos Zambrano had a very good outing against the Padres on August 19 at Wrigley Field, allowing only one run in six innings. Sean Marshall had his worst outing of the year and the Cubs lost the game. Z is still walking too many hitters, but would love to finish the year by helping knock the Padres out of the race. Ryan Ludwick is the Padre who hits him best (7-for-16, .438, two HR).
Today's game is on WGN and 4 San Diego. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Padres site Gaslamp Ball. But be careful over there.
Today's first pitch thread will be up at 9 pm CDT and the overflows will post at 10 pm, 11 pm and 11:45 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Not that it means much ...
but I’d love for Z to get to 10 wins.
He'll get one more start in Houston.
Maybe he can get to 11.
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sounds good to me
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First pitch thread
is at 1:15 pm? lol
Hope Z has a great game tonight. I’ll be watching the Bears but if they are sucking I’ll switch to the Cubs.
I think the SBN logging in issue has been fixed.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Cripes.
Forgot to change the times from yesterday. I’ll fix it.
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Al, so we need to send you to the Iowa Cubs SBnation for a brief stint
you seem to be in a late season slump
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hope you got a laugh, i cannot blame anything on your not trying
and hope to make light of it, not the other way around
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or on you as well
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cool beans, just making sure
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Yes it has.
Thanks for putting up with more than you should have to.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
We're all here for the same reason, presumably
To enjoy baseball and the Cubs and be there WHEN they finally win the World Series.
Until then we enjoy the ride.
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crazy talk
i am here for the Blackhawk gamethreads
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GO HAWKS!!
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Let's hope that happens
sooner than later.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
let's just win and let the chips fall where they may
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Sep 27, 2010 7:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Come on Z
I haven’t commented in awhile. I slept through the semi-good parts, eh?
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by theGraceyslumpbuster on Sep 27, 2010 7:17 PM CDT reply actions
I hope Hill has a good game
I understand scouts are waiting in line to talk to him about next year. They all feel he has earned that right.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
im rooting for
D Lee and Farnsworth to make playoffs.
by cozmotaylor123 on Sep 27, 2010 7:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
farns....yes
DLee. Not so much
by cozmotaylor123 on Sep 27, 2010 7:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
C'mon...
…Baby don’t you want to go win…

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by victor frankenstein on Sep 27, 2010 7:56 PM CDT reply actions
Do it for us, Baby...
…if not for us, Zambrano!
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 27, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Baby, Please Don’t Go Lose
Go CUBS!
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by cooliogirl47 on Sep 27, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate the Packers.
Dammit.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
by sue369 on Sep 27, 2010 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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Sadly, not a surprise though
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Hmm
A team owned by the residents of the really small city they live in whose lives revolve around them.
Yep go ahead and hate them.
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
i hate them for all the right reasons
its a respectful hate, not a Mets type of hate
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I agree with Tim.
Bears/Packers rivalry is like Cubs/Cardinals.
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Um not for me
I DO hate the Cardinals.
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
its like a sibling rivalry
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Well if you consider Cain and Abel the role model for sibling rivalry.
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
So it's okay for you to hate the Cardinals but you mock Sue for hating the Packers?
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by ballhawk on Sep 27, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
zing
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if only Sue was owned by the residents of the really small city they live in whose lives revolve around them
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her not them
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Yes
Cardinals are EVIL, Packers are good. I have no problem wanting to beat them, but the organization is unique in sports. As I have mentioned I fell in love with them because I spent childhood summers in Door County and got the news from Green Bay. Packer fans are far crazier & committed than any other fans in any sport, even Cub fans. I think this is because they have not much else to do, root for in the Green Bay area, but that is how it is. I love that a city of around 100,000 has kept an NFL franchise
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
But you understand that most Cubs fans hate the Packers, as Bears fans.
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i dont agree with all you say here
to say no one is as crazy is opinion, and until you go to a Canucks game in Vancouver 9for one example) you don’t know crazy. Especially if Toronto is in town
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And I bet Doggie Stalker has never been in the Dawg Pound for a Browns/Steelers game
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there are rabid/crazy fans for every team
and there are band wagon as well. cannot say one team is all rabid and crazy or say no one else is near.
hell, some colleges have fans who can compete on the crazy train
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Trust me there is nothing like Green Bay
I have mentioned this before and I am not kidding, in June the HEADLINE on the news will be a reserve right tackle injuring their thumb. There is nothing else of significance in the greater Green Bay area. It is not the intensity of the Bears rivalry , it is just general intensity. I always found it funny that Milwaukee which used to host a number of games, had to give them up because unlike Green Bay they could not afford an updated facility.
Look I am a Cub fan, and I have season tickets which I kept for 20 years of living in NYC and now I am mostly unemployed and will still keep them , but overall I could not hold a candle to Packer fans in general.
In Chicago this is a big game , in Green Bay this is the main news story year round.
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Look we all have opinions
but the vast majority of you have never spent any time in the
Green Bay area if you have and disagree with my view I would like to hear why.
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
and I bet you have never spent time in Vancouver for a hockey game
touche
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that logic only works if you've been everywhere else...
…and thus are in a position to say GB is the hotbed of fan intensity.
So have you been everywhere?
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this reminds me of the ghost hunt for everything Lou
if i can say nothing else about DS, she is passionate and stands to her guns, even if they are not loaded :=)
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Yes Lou was great
why did I ever doubt him
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
trust me i know more than you might believe about the Packers
and i am not doubting their fanbase, just stating truth about other fan bases.
my Aunt and Uncle in Wisconsin have shares in the Packers from BOTH times they were made available. My uncles father (my aunt is my dads sister, so he married in) played for both the Bears and Packers back in the day.
So, no it is not just an outside opinion of mine, I do know about the franchise, and its fans.
hell, another friend of mine happens to be a season ticket holder for the Packers, and he never once has said what you are proclaiming as fact. he has said that Bengals and Viks fans are the worst ever, and I bet if we were viking fans we would have a different opinion as well.
so no I am not just saying it because I am a Bears fan, but because every fan base has real crazy fans (look at the Raiders if you truly dont believe me) and they also have bandwagon fans as well.
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and to one up all of them
Soccer Hooligans likely have them all beat
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Not a question that Packer fans are "better"
but they are indeed crazier than any other fan base. Maybe lack of choices but they are. Bears fans have other options for sports , Packer fans don’t.
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree about the options DS.
I lived near Joliet for the first 30 years of my life. Since 1988, I live in Fond du Lac and work in Oshkosh. I will always love the Bears and hate the Packers with a passion.
The only things to do other than football for Packer fans is deer hunting and bowling.
While all this may be true...
… the number of choices a fan of a team has doesn’t make one team “better” than the other.
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by Al Yellon on Sep 28, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can say Packer fans
are crazier and committed but doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s your opinion nothing else.
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The end
Oh hell. Blanda died?
Jesus.
No, really. Wow.
That’s the first I’ve heard of it.
I was a kid in the Bay Area when he was still throwing for the Raiders.
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 27, 2010 8:02 PM CDT reply actions
Boy, this on top of Janikowski's crap - in - your - hat trick yesterday...
…oh, man.
I gotta go.
Win, Cubs.
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 27, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Where is the Packers beat Bears thread?
I guess I could start one myself for me Madison Cub Fan. VCF and others. GO PACK.
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for the next 2 hours, i hate all of you lol
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NFL Monday night game in 2 hours
make it 3 and a half.
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
2 from the time of the post
not from the start
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Huh?
What time zone are you in? It’s almost halftime.
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maybe she is watching the replay?
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If she thinks the game hasn't started yet...
… maybe I could win some more Big Gulps from her by betting her on things that have already happened.
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shhh dont let her see this post Al
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the one you will make in two hours
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Sheesh I know when it started
Pack up 10-0. Won’t be over 2 hours after Tim’s original post.
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by Doggie Stalker on Sep 27, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Photo Caption:
You must be this tall to kick our butts…
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nice
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