Padres' Will Venable Steals Two HR, Game From Cubs
If you like outfield defense, last night's 3-0 Padres shutout of the Cubs had to be your kind of game.
Kosuke Fukudome made a nice diving catch in right field off a sinking line drive by Padres pitcher Chris Young in the third inning for the Cubs, but the real story was the Padres' Will Venable, who stole not one, but two home runs from Cubs hitters.
Cubs manager Mike Quade probably said it best:
"The first catch was good," manager Mike Quade said. "The second catch was phenomenal."
Hype is big in sports, but Quade didn't overhype either one. The first one, robbing Alfonso Soriano of what would have been his 25th home run of the season, was actually a little better than "good"; Venable caught it just before it was about to bounce into the Padres' bullpen in center field. And Quade had the second one right, too -- it was phenomenal; Venable leaped higher than the seven-foot fence in left field and reached his glove over, stealing a home run from Aramis Ramirez that, at the time, would have given the Cubs a 2-1 lead. Ramirez just stared in disbelief.
The Cubs also blew a chance to have a big first inning off Young, when they put runners on second and third with nobody out, but couldn't score. This was reminiscent of the bad old Cubs from earlier this year, leaving runners in scoring position that way. Letting Young off the hook early seemed to make him stronger, and then Venable's two catches kept the Cubs scoreless.
Now, while the outfield defense for the Cubs was good, infield defense: not so much. No error was charged on the second-inning play where Chase Headley's ground ball to Xavier Nady at first base ricocheted off his glove; a throw home failed to get Adrian Gonzalez, but the Cubs prevented further damage by throwing Yorvit Torrealba out at third base.
And the Padres' second run scored on a Randy Wells wild pitch that easily could have been ruled a passed ball on Koyie Hill.
Other than that, Wells turned in another quality start -- three runs allowed in seven innings -- his 18th of the year in 32 starts, and the Cubs' 92nd of the season, fourth-most in the National League (but only three fewer than the league-leading Giants). In two starts against the Padres in 2010 covering 14 innings, the Cubs scored zero runs for Randy. He finished the season strong, with a 3.12 ERA over his last six starts, pretty close to his 3.05 season ERA in 2009.
The Padres' win kept them two games behind the Giants in the NL West; the two teams will play this weekend in San Francisco. They also trail the Braves by 1.5 games in the wild card race. The chances of a three-way tie are still alive.
Today's game has an unusual starting time of 5:35 CDT. The pregame thread will be up at 3:30 pm CDT.
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You made me
look. Wow. I like Ramirez’s reaction.
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Thanks for the link.
Brenly loves Venable from when he was a kid roaming around the Giants’ clubhouse with daddy Max.
Wherever you go, there you are!
by Dan Serafini on Sep 30, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, the expression on his face was great...
BUT – I really hate it when a hitter stands and admires a shot like that instead of running, as Aramis did. What if it had been off the wall? When you hit the ball you should run like hell until there’s a good reason to do otherwise.
"Every day when I show up, I try to provide a little laughter...some days when I pitch it gets pretty funny, too." -- Ryan Dempster, 5/2010
by CaughtInTheVines on Sep 30, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree and rec'd.
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And maybe add something about how...
…Aramis was showing outstanding sportsmanship by giving Venable more time to make the play in front of his adoring home fans?
"Every day when I show up, I try to provide a little laughter...some days when I pitch it gets pretty funny, too." -- Ryan Dempster, 5/2010
by CaughtInTheVines on Sep 30, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Watched about half of the game last night.
Len and Bob were just amazed at Chris Young’s effectiveness throwing fastballs in the high 80s. Made me wonder if Young learned a thing or two from Maddux’s time in SD.
Maybe.
Also, weren’t they saying that with his height it probably seemed like the ball was in the low 90’s?
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They also mentioned that the height and his motion..
…. made it easier for him to hide the ball.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I wouldn't be shocked ...
if Maddux suggested that he use his height and motion to make it harder on hitters.
pitching and defense this series
Sept 28th the Padres booted a loss towards the Cubs. Sept 27th both clubs dueled in pitching and defense.
So much is made of hitting but taking away hits/runs can be even bigger.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Watched the "Tenth Inning" the last two nights.
If I was a White Sox fan I’d be furious right now. Spent a lot of time going over every detail of the 2004 Red Sox and then just glossed over the White Sox, Cards, Phillies cramming it in at the end…hec, they spend more time on Bartman for crying out loud. Ugh.
For the most part though, I did enjoy the show because between having my kids and the strike I missed almost all of the 90’s.
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The first "nine innings" are the same.
The part about Bill Mazerowski’s 1960 World Series winning homer for the Pirates is told almost entirely from the point of view of the tragic disappointment of Yankee fans, the crushing blow of losing a World Series like that. Little or nothing from the Pittsburgh point of view. If I were a Pirates fan I’d be appalled. Made me ill anyway. When it was first broadcast in 1994 or whenever it was, I couldn’t make it past the first couple of episodes. Although, it was the first time I heard the Merkle story, which floored me, so I have to thank Mr. Burns for that.
One of Lee Elia's 15%
by waiting4cubs on Sep 30, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't remember the first time I heard the Merkle story.
I’m guessing my husband told me to explain why that bar in Wrigleyville is called Merkle’s. Your version is one of the best I’ve read. The newspaper excerpts were a nice touch.
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by katie casey on Sep 30, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks! Sports "journalism" back then was incredibly entertaining.
One of Lee Elia's 15%
by waiting4cubs on Sep 30, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Knew it would be stuffed with East Coast stuff....didn't bother to watch it....
And if its all Bartman crap concerning the Cubs, I will not waste my time.
and Sosa.
I’ll tell you…it was loads of fun.
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by katie casey on Sep 30, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
It's OK.
Anger makes me more creative. I’ll paint better today as I remember my feelings about the strike. Made me really mad at Selig seeing him be all two faced about the steroids…first allowing them to slide, then being all righteous and indignant about Bonds breaking his buddy Hank’s record.
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by katie casey on Sep 30, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't watch the whole documentary ...
but the Yankees-Red Sox was a huge focus. Possibly, too much.
Pretty much all of it
2004 was skipped over entirely. You went from Schilling and A-rod signings to the down 3-0 comeback. Albeit it’s a huge story but not all that went on that year
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
by Musicdude10 on Sep 30, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
It wasn't even good when focusing about Yankees-Red Sox.
Burns, the director, is a known Red Sox fan. So, the focus, as in the first part a few years ago, was on his team failure and fans’ reaction. Fine. Now it was more of that and then joy. Fine. I can even understand there was no time to expand on other teams’s reactions.
But covering the Joe Torre story in 1996 without mentioning Torre’s brother, Frank, very public heart illness? Mentioning Latinos and Clemente was fine, but leaving the impression that Puerto Ricans are not subject to the draft? There was no omission there, just a lack of a full explanation.
Updating the old documentary without expanding on the stories of Tampa Bay’s resurgence and the White Sox long awaited championship in 2005?
They even left some stories dangling, like when they mentiones the influx of new stadiums but never mentioned or showed most of them.
The focus was on the impact of steroids on the great baseball stories of our time, but showing the players mentioned to be steroid users except David Ortiz, a Red Sox star? C’mon!
Still it was a good documentary. I enjoyed it in my Slingbox because my stupid PBS station (WMTJ) decided to show it with the Spanish soundtrack only. Message to them: I don’t need to hear a translation of something I already understand, much less one where you can hear two voices talking at once in both languages, one voice over the other. That’s bad. Thank God the video will be released this coming Tuesday. I’ll fully enjoy the documentary then.
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 30, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I give it a C
I thought the first part on Tuesday was better. To much Bonds, To much Red Sox/Yankees and of course Steriods. I thought I was watching MSNBC with Obermann and Barncle. Glad to see they only spent about 2 minutes on the 03 Cubs. Overall it was OK.
Suggestion for you, Al.
How about a poll asking BCBers whom they think will be the next manager — as opposed to whom they think SHOULD be the next manager?
Apologies if you’ve already done this …
Hm.
I don’t think I’ve done that one yet. Maybe after the season ends.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'd do it now, given the Quade article.
But, obviously, it’s your site. I’d be fascinated by the results.
Don't confuse me.
Do you really think that article means Hendry is leaning that way?
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I don't think so.
It’s just more information.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Could be trying to help Quade get another head coaching job if the Cubs don't pick him
By all accounts, Hendry is a loyalty guy so I wouldn’t put that past him.
I'm guessing Hendry figures ...
that his praise will help Quade get SOME job, whether it’s with the Cubs or elsewhere.
I think he and Chad Fox ...
will go into business together, and open up a Subway.
They could open a Carfax together
And Chad Fox could be the Car Fax Chad Fox. Quade could….manage the place
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by Musicdude10 on Sep 30, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
fast forward a few years and a scene like this could unfold...
[the Indians General Manager calls minor league coach Lou Brown at Tire World to offer him a position with the Indians]
Charlie Donovan: How would you like to manage the Indians this year?
Lou Brown: Gee, I don’t know…
Charlie Donovan: What do you mean, you don’t know? This is your chance to manage in the big leagues.
Lou Brown: Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
What if one of the employees puts a pickle on a sandwich that he shouldn't have on his second day on the job....
Will they just make him sit and watch the older sandwich artist work, even though he isn’t good at it either?
I thought that he was before, actually.
I’m just some goofball poster on a blog, but here’s what I think is happening:
It’s pretty clear that Hendry really likes Quade. I bet Hendry gave him the job (over Trammell) for three reasons:
1) If Quade did well, Hendry could point to the results when discussing the opening with Ricketts.
2) If Quade did badly, Hendry would have reason to believe that Quade isn’t the guy.
3) If Quade did well, but Ricketts went the other way, Hendry would have helped Quade in efforts to get another managing job.
I’ve said repeatedly that I don’t know who will be better. Quade’s really impressed me, but Sandberg hasn’t had a chance to impress me. And, from where I sit, their understanding of the Cubs’ pressure as pretty much dead even.
But I think Quade is Hendry’s pick, and Ricketts is in the Sandberg camp. I don’t think either guy would be a bad choice.
But again, I’m just a goofball on a blog.
Well thought out.
I’m still baffled by why Trammell was taken out of consideration. As a goofball-my gut feeling is your #3 and that he is going with Sandberg, but wants to wait to see about Girardi first on the off chance he can get him.
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Girardi is definitely the wild card.
One thing about that, though. I wonder if Ricketts would be willing to spend enough on a manager to land Girardi. Sandberg and Quade would both be a lot cheaper.
And I don’t think Girardi will leave the Bronx.
Right.
Not sure what Ricketts will spend. I just think it explains Hendry’s earlier remarks about wanting someone with experience.
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by katie casey on Sep 30, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Regarding Trammell ...
I’m guessing Hendry and the rest of the organization just wasn’t that impressed by Trammell.
Your points are plausible, if a little tinfoil hat.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
My first reaction to that article was
that between Quade’s winning record and Dempster’s comments people are interested in learning more about Quade. I thought the article was just written in response to that interest. Reading your speculation has me wondering now if Dempster’s comments and the article are in response to Hendry’s interest in Quade. IDK.
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by katie casey on Sep 30, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Dempster's comments ...
were in response to Hendry’s interest. I think Demp simply answered a question honestly.
But the article is another matter.
I added that part about Dempster
while putting my Hershey kiss hat on.
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by katie casey on Sep 30, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Almost doesn't seem fair though
to judge him on days he was just filling in for Lou. He may have done differently had he been actual manager. Not that I have a problem with Quade getting the job over him. I ♥ Quade.
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by katie casey on Sep 30, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I doubt the fill-in time was all that they used to judge Trammell.
They probably judged him as a coach, just as they did Quade.
Curious
Why do you think Ricketts is in the Sandberg camp?
by AboutTheCubs on Sep 30, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That one I can actually vote in.
Haven’t been able to make up my mind on who should.
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Hey look! No home team fan involvement
That guy was locked-in !! The replay on Rami’s shot is priceless. Look up, watch the track, look up, watch the track, look up, jump and grab it.
One word to describe that sequence: Textbook
Just win the next game...!
I have tickets for the Giants/Padres game on Friday
I always hope for the Cubs to win, especially against the Padres, but I was also hoping for there to be a lot of drama in this game. It looks like they will be close enough to make it interesting.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Yup - no way for the Dads to be eliminated before then
That’ll be a fun game
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
But they could be faced with having to win
4 straight with the infamous game #163 at home against Lincecum.
Just win the next game...!
You get to see the Giants clinch, perhaps
Guess you never know which Zito will come out.
Colleague who lives out that way and lives and breathes Pads, has just about heard enough from me over this series, “that’s for 1984!”. OK, really it isn’t but it does help just a little.
Just win the next game...!
I wonder if Hill didn't get that wild pitch because he is tired from playing so much!
If only Castillo would have called a different pitch on Burrell, then hill could have some time off!!!!
I see Burrell hit a big 3-run HR last night. Did they take the catcher out?
Cards GM John Mozeliak says they will look for a backup catcher who can contribute offensively.
I was told on this website that such a thing did not exist and that a Hill-type catcher was the best anyone could hope fo.! Hmmm, so it is possible to have a backup catcher that is competent both offensively and defensively? I suspected it was, rather than what we have, one that is already on the roster and comes cheap.
"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"
The Cubs are not aware that a backup catcher could possibly hit as well.
New management that is brought in may discover this new trend.
We may have other teams fighting for Hill in the offseason!
A bidding war!!!!!
Castillo could possibly hit and be good defensivley...
but he doesn’t know how to call a game with Pat Burrell batting.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
ADRIAN GONZALEZ IS OUR BOY: ADAM DUNN IS JUST A TOY!
So all is lost.....
I heard the DBacks catcher was released last night during the game after Burrell hit that HR!
Happened fast - by the time Burrell finished circling the bases, the new catcher was already out there.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I'm trying to think of good backup catchers for both offense and defense...
…but the only guy I can think of who made a career of it was Mike Redmond (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/redmomi01.shtml). You could argue that a lot of his offense is built upon some “empty” batting averages, but that’s not too strong a knock for a backup catcher.
Quade will be Sandberg's bench coach/mentor next year
Unless Joseph Elliot Girardi wants the job.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
ADRIAN GONZALEZ IS OUR BOY: ADAM DUNN IS JUST A TOY!
I could live with that
Is Hendry smart enough to do it? I’d like to at least see Quade stay in the organization.
"Any player who gets the opportunity to play at Wrigley should welcome it"
More important question
Is Quade so loyal that he’d take the demotion? And why wouldn’t Quade have a chance at a managerial job elsewhere?
+1
The only way that works is if Quade can’t get a job elsewhere, and he knows he can’t early enough in the process for Sandberg to pick him as bench coach.
Which seems pretty unlikely, given all the managerial vacancies.
That depends.
New info today: Don Baylor will be interviewed for the Toronto opening.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
More important
Is Ricketts willing to shell out some serious coin?
AND… is he willing to watch lazy asses like Ramirez and Soriano sit their collective $33M dollar asses on the bench after they dog it out of the box doing a glory watch on a double off the wall?
Just win the next game...!
Interested
I’d be interested to see who (Ryno or Quade) they will bring in as their staff for next year. I already like Bobby D. as a coach, and I’d think each guy might have another guy or two they’d like to bring aboard.
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields
My funny dyslexia
I read this headline
Report: Pete Rouse Taking Over For Rahm As Acting WH Chief Of Staffas “Pete Rose Taking Over For Rahm . . .”
Don’t anyone make any political comments, but man, I had to say I did a double take on that one. And had Obama actually done that, it would have been a huge gamble. (OK, I had to get the pun in.)
(And no, I don’t really have dyslexia.)

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