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Around SBN: Jeremy Lin And How The Pac-12 Missed Him

A great article published in SBN's "Twinkie Town" Fan Site. I couldn't had written it better myself. Great read.

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If I was a member of Twinkie Town I'd rec that.

Since I’m not, I’ll rec this.

"Fasten those seatbelts!"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Sep 7, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

That’s an outstanding piece.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 7, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plus...

if you lose the 1st 4 games of a NEW football season, you’re pretty much out of the playoff hunt at the quarter pole. Not that way in baseball. You can start off sucking BAD and get hot for a month and you’re right back in the middle of things.

Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Book it!!
Adam Dunn..2011 Chicago Cubs First Baseman - 3 yrs/$42 mill with a club option for a 4th.

by Easy Ed on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Football is my favorite sport

and baseball comes in as a tie with hockey for 3rd place.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

What's number 2?

:P

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 7, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basketball silly. :P

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basketball silly?

I wouldn’t have guessed you for a Knicks fan, Sue.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Sep 7, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a Knicks fan....

Bulls mostly and the Hawkeyes tho they haven’t been much fun to watch the last few year.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball's a distant second for me.

Football is way more important to me.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Sep 8, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn, I miss George Carlin!

And I agree. Baseball is a multi-act drama, every game. Football is a made-for-TV excuse for commercials, and incredibly boring in person.

by MN exile on Sep 7, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

The only time...

… I ever attended a football game in person that I felt was truly exciting, was the 2007 Fiesta Bowl between Boise State and Oklahoma. That was an amazing game.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 7, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

May have been a Top 10 All-Time College Football game.

Everything you could ask from a game was in there, plus a marriage proposal from the football hero to the cheerleader.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Sep 7, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

His number one reason is one of the reasons I like football more.

There’s just too much baseball.

Football once a week keeps each Sunday as a big event.

by Arbusto on Sep 7, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I like baseball more but I see the appeal of football.

The point missed in here is that it is controlled violence which frequently is not controlled…there isn’t any way it could have half the games of baseball, everyone would be injured or dead involved. While the weekend factor helps ratings, the rarity factor also increases it. One game to advance. One game to win the Super Bowl. Which is also why I don’t think it is better than baseball…just different. There’s little time to make adjustments or use strategy, and injuries affect it much more than baseball. But I think overall though they are much different in terms of physical play and strategy, I like baseball better because most anyone can play baseball if they have talent, you need to have a body size for football. And most of all, less thugs in baseball. It’s hard to cheer for a team knowing the violent idiots a lot of those guys are when they step off the field.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

When I try to explain the difference to people

I always use the phrase, “Baseball is strategy; football is tactics.”

Then I have to tell them what I mean by that for the next 5 minutes…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 9, 2010 3:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Neither would be so sweet without the other

If all I had was baseball or football year round, I think it would grow stale. They offer different things; they elicit different emotions. Why compare them against each other when they go so well together?

2011 can't get here soon enough.

by Castro Por Presidente on Sep 7, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

It's fun to compare them....

for the simple reason that they are polar opposites in every way imagineable. Again, I go back to George Carlin’s famous monologue. If anyone has never heard it, go to YouTube and type in a search for George Carlin, Baseball and Football. One of the most brilliant, yet simple, comedy bits of all time.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Sep 7, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another cause of football's popularity is betting -

from friendly wagers to office pools to bookies to Vegas. Betting and instant replay made the NFL. The ball is only in play a little over 11 minutes a game in the NFL. Before they had instant replay to fill the time between plays, the game just wasn’t as popular. You’d watch for 3 hours and for 2 hours and 49 minutes, nothing was happening.

by the nth on Sep 7, 2010 11:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Baseball also owes a large debt to gambling

Before there was radio, there was baseball betting, both casually in the stands and with bookies. Gambling drove baseball’s popularity and occasionally drove baseball itself. Although people like to think of football as the ultimate betting activity, baseball and basketball betting have been around much longer.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 9, 2010 3:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Before there was radio?

I’m aware of the 1919 White Sox (many now say the 1918 Cubs as well) and the CCNY basketball betting scandal of the 50s but I’m talking about currently. People still bet the other two sports but there is far more buzz about football betting. Hard to think of another sport where the Vegas line is mentioned repeatedly when discussing games by sports casters and sports writers. I have read nothing about the Bears this week but after just a few seconds of talk radio – literally turning stations – I know earlier in the week they favored by 7 and more recently 6 against the Lions.

by the nth on Sep 9, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

The NFL could be seen as complicit

What’s the point of requiring such detail in injury lists (will play, probable, questionable, out) if not to better inform the gamblers?

Betting on football is as normalized as any gambling activity outside of playing the lottery. Whereas when I was gambling regularly, I’d get some very strange looks after telling people that I had my best luck betting on baseball and golf.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 9, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The pace on TV of football is way more enjoyable

than baseball. “Op, pitching change more commercials”

At least when football gets exciting in the last 5 of the 4Q you’re not going to have commercials, whereas an exciting baseball game will have half a dozen breaks for mound meetings, pitch hitter moves, pitching changes, dozens of pick-off moves.

I’m so ready for football, even if the Bears will be awful.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Sep 8, 2010 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

ditto

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Sep 8, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The DVR has made football tolerable for me.

Team score a TD – commercials. Scoring teams kicks off. Commercials.

To be at an NFL game is the worst. Most of the time you’re waiting for the game to get going while people at home watch commercials.

by the nth on Sep 9, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate the way the game keeps interrupting the commercials

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 15, 2010 5:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is hilarious...

if you’re in the stands. I do agree with your statement but it is only for watching football on TV. The most amazingly bored I have ever been AT a sporting events was when I had the chance to be on the sidelines for the Bears vs. Bucs in Tampa. The amazing amount of time spent standing around waiting for the red hat to let you know the commercial break is over… WOW.

Ed note: it was a 6-3 game with the Bears being led by the forgettable Cade McNown, but never let facts get in the way of a good opinion…

I agree completely that the specialization in baseball kills some quality moments. Baseball would be much more fun to watch if it was Doc Holliday facing Jeter, Rodriguez, Texeria in the seventh and ninth inning of the World Series instead of Romero, Eyre, and Madson with 3 pitching changes in an inning.

by KyCubsFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats all my comment was about

the comparision of games on TV.

I’ve never been to an NFL game (with my vision there is no seat in the stadium that would let me actually follow the game other than crowd noise and maybe blobs of moving color). I’ve been to a handful of baseball games.

But on TV? Football is to far superior. Part of it is the simple fact that I prefer football to baseball in general, but mostly? Football is MADE for TV. Baseball is made for radio and lazy summer days.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Sep 10, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget...career lengths

How long is the career of the average NFL football player? I honestly don’t know, but how long are those guys around for before they’re too banged up to play? I know you’ve got a few football players who last longer than most (Brett Favre, I suppose?), but I really like the fact that you can have guys in baseball who’ve been in the big leagues for 20 years—you can see someone like Jamie Moyer pitching and think, “Man, I saw this guy on the Cubs 24 years ago…”

by jdb-44 on Sep 17, 2010 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Favre's a special case

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D07E1DD1231F933A25752C1A9649C8B63&ref=brett_favre

Most running backs aren’t in the game more than 10 years. Probably the longest-lived position players are the receivers and cornerbacks – everyone else takes too much of a beating to make it past 15 years.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 18, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

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