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Via tweet from Paul Sullivan, the callups include Fuld, Scales, Snyder, Berg and Samardzija

Neither Scales nor Snyder is on the 40-man roster, so room will have to be made.

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I'm looking forward to seeing Snyder

I see the Iowa Cubs box scores every day and he’s had a fine year. There’s probably not a place for him next year, but if he does well while he’s up he could help sweeten an off-season trade package.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Sep 7, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Doubtful.

There’s a reason Snyder has spent four years in Triple-A. Hint: it’s not his performance.

He’s 28…. a career minor leaguer.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 7, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

What would keep him there other than his performance?

Is he afraid to drive on expressways or something? And I’d still like to see him just for the heck of it. If nothing else, he seems like he’s a more complete player than Dubois of the Hoff. At least he has some speed and can play defense. I certainly don’t see him as the cornerstone of a trade, but maybe someone else will need him for AAA filler and he could be a throw-in.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never mind

I understand what you meant now.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Sep 7, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs are making room on the 40 man roster for Bobby Scales??

When is it my turn?

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Sep 7, 2010 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

After mine.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, you first

You’ve “toiled” much longer than me.

I can see one of the relievers getting DFA and then ending up on another team and having short stint of MLB value. Then it be “Look what Bobby Scales cost us…”.

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Sep 7, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was about to say the same thing.

Were putting Bobby freakin Scales on the 40 man and leaving out Marquez Smith and Robby Chirinos? And it’s not like he’s “getting rewarded for being a good organization guy”, he got that last year.

by Dcr18 on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't get it, either.

I mean, if they want to keep Scales in the organization as a minor league coach, fine. But his playing career has to be done.

Maybe they’re giving these out as rewards this September and will be clearing the deck over the winter. I don’t understand why Brad Snyder is being recalled, either, except as a reward for being a good organizational guy.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 7, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the harm?

I have been paying little attention to AAA and these guys this year, but I’ve got to believe that the Cubs don’t care if they lose Snyder and Scales after this year. The Cubs are going to make room for these guys, but they won’t be on the 40-man roster next year. So they clear these guys off after the season when they set the roster, making them free agents. This isn’t something they want to do with guys like Smith and Chirinos, who they want around in the future.

by dmlichte on Sep 7, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

But why even have Scales and Snyder the last few weeeks of the season at all?

Why not give Smith and Chirinos a taste of the bigs, they’re the ones who deserve it based on performance, and may be part of the future of the team, at least in some capacity.

by Dcr18 on Sep 7, 2010 4:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Roster Management

Again, Scales and Snyder’s lack of future with the team is why they’re being called up. They call them up and add them to the 40-man roster. Come the off season, when the Cubs have to start making moves, adding and subtracting players from the 40-man roster, Snyder and Scales are among the first to go. If they call Smith and Chirinos up, they have to stay on the 40-man roster, otherwise the Cubs will lose them to another team. Further, calling up Chirinos and Smith gets the evil service time clock ticking on them.

Bottom line is that you can’t think of this as Snyder and Scales over Smith and Chirinos. The Cubs decided not to call Smith and Chirinos up and once that happened, there was no reason not to call up Snyder and Scales.

by dmlichte on Sep 7, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I guess I get what your saying, but still, why not call them up?

Chirinos and Smith are both eligible for the rule 5 draft anyway, so it couldn’t hurt to add them now. It’s the same situation they had with Colvin last year. But I guess since they decided not to, it doesn’t hurt to use Scales and Snyder. It just seems like a waste of a roster spot, but I suppose it doesn’t hurt.

by Dcr18 on Sep 7, 2010 7:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If you're still asking...

…. you DIDN’T get what he’s saying.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Sep 7, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok... let me go into the possibilities

First off, I’ll say that I am not tremendously familiar with Chirinos, Smith, so I am going to assume that you are correct in that they are eligable for the Rule 5 Draft. That aside, here are a few things to keep in mind…

- The Cubs have to set their 40-Man roster prior to the Rule 5 Draft. I believe that date is somewhere around Dec. 1st. The Cubs will remove Snyder and Scales from the 40-Man Roster not too long after the season ends. This will give the Cubs up to two months with two spots on the 40-Man roster to utilize for transactions. Other players will be removed from the 40-Man roster, but Hendry, et al may want the added flexibility of not having to add Smith and Chirinos until December. So it could hurt to add them now if the Cubs find someone else they’d prefer to acquire in Mid November, it could hurt if Chirinos and/or Smith were already added to the 40-man roster.

- We are assuming that Chirinos and Smith are likely targets for the Rule 5 Draft. If someone is to take either of these two, they have to pay the Cubs $50,000 and keep them on their active 25 man roster all season. On the other hand, if the Cubs add these two and then determine they need one of the roster spots, any team can have them.

- Finally, you are overlooking the service time clock issue. Colvin is actually an example of this. The Cubs didn’t want to bring up Colvin and weren’t planning on doing so… but then Milton Bradley was Milton Bradley and the Cubs needed another outfielder. Anyhow… Chirinos and Smith don’t seem likely to start the 2011 season with the Cubs. If you call them up now, you start their service time clock. They not only approach free agency and arbitration sooner, they get paid more, sooner. Not necessarily something you want with bench players.

by dmlichte on Sep 7, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really matter in this case.

As noted below, two guys were transferred to the 60 day DL to make room for Snyder and Scales.

When those guys (Grabow for sure, Caridad more of a maybe) go back on the 40 man count next year, “clearing off” Snyder and Scales won’t really have made any room.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 7, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

However...

… its not like Grabow and Caridad will come off the 60-Day DL the day after the season ends. Clearing off Snyder and Scales will make room for however long those spots are needed. The roster is a fluid thing and players will be acquired and dealt. If nothing else, having those two spots just gives the Cubs some added time to make some decisions on who they want to keep and who they want to deal.

by dmlichte on Sep 7, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

When they come off the DL isn't really that important.

You’re not clearing space until you decide whether players will be kept.

If the Cubs intend to keep Grabow and Caridad, then no roster space is “saved” by moving them to the 60 day. The “savings” is only temporary.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 7, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure...

what we’re debating here. The bottom line is that Snyder and Scales are not going to stick around, so if you want to look at it this way, as soon as the two of them are “cleared off”, Grabow and Caridad can have those spots back (for the sake of discussion).

by dmlichte on Sep 7, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its Hendry's MO

Whether Scales had been up last season or not, Hendry’s thing is to bring up veterans like this. Maybe Hendry believes that this will push some veteran types towards signing with the Cubs. Maybe Hendry has a soft spot for these types of players. I dunno. Aside from costing the Cubs a few extra bucks, I don’t see why not, though.

by dmlichte on Sep 8, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

The point I was contesting

was the notion that bringing up Snyder and Scales now made it easier to clear room off the 40 man this off season. This was a good thing since there will surely be some house cleaning on the 40 man with some players being relinquished, others needing to be protected, and new players acquired.

My point was that if the Cubs intend to keep Grabow and Caridad, which I think they do, then temporarily removing them from the 40 man by storing them on the 60 day DL doesn’t really “clear” any spaces on the 40 man roster, since those two pitchers will need to reclaim those spots anyway.

I have no real opinion about bringing up Scales and Snyder. Neither will likely be on the 40 man next year. So while there is likely no “point” to bringing them up, I also don’t really see any harm.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 8, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are currently 43 players on the 40-man roster....

… 40 players and three on the 60-day DL. There will have to be some space cleared for players the Cubs want to protect from the Rule 5 draft, and for other offseason transactions.

I can think, just off the top of my head, of 11 players they could simply release off that roster and not miss a single one of them.

(In case you were wondering: Atkins, Gaub, Gray, Mateo, Parker, Schlitter, Stevens, Scales, Hoffpauir, Adduci, Snyder)

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 8, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, that's fine.

I wasn’t contesting whether the Cubs would have a bunch of super difficult choices to find space on the 40 man.

And your list is fine… I would hold out the tiniest slivers of hope that Gaub, Gray, Stevens, and Adduci could contribute (using that term very loosely) at the major league level (the first three as Des Moines-Chicago shuttle guys and Adduci as a 5th OF, if Fuld is let go).

Is there someone (Josh, toonsterwu, etc.) who might be able to easily/quickly identify what players will need to be protected on the 40 man next year (or be subject to the Rule V draft)?

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 8, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Question for you, then.

If Gaub and Stevens could help the Cubs, why aren’t they up now?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 8, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course, I don't have a good answer.

Just like there’s no “good” answer as to why Scales, Mateo, etc. ARE with the club (the “reward” notion probably is the reason, but it certainly isn’t a “good” reason.)

Them not being called up likely means the club doesn’t view them as having any shot at a future with the Cubs. I just find it strange because…

Gaub was seen as a potentially LOOGY to join the club out of ST. How do you go from that to not even worth a playing out the string September call-up?

I think Stevens could be Michael Wuertz-lite. The Cubs appear to have given up on Wuertz too soon and, despite being traded multiple times, the same may happen with Stevens.

I dunno. I guess part of me just wanted to see Gaub and/or Stevens instead of more of Berg, Mateo, or Maine (why him over Gaub, especially when he had to be added to the 40 man).

As a final thought, I certainly acknowledge that none of the guys I listed would likely amount to anything in the bigs.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 8, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess part of me just wanted to see Gaub and/or Stevens instead of more of Berg, Mateo, or Maine (why him over Gaub, especially when he had to be added to the 40 man).

I agree with you here, and also agree that none of them will likely have any major league time after this year.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 8, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll defend Mateo and Maine

I have no answer for Stevens, but Maine has a solid 4 pitch arsenal and has the makings of being a potentially good LOOGY. I’ve defended Russell (vs. lefty numbers are solid), but he should get some competition for the lefty middle relief pen role next year (there’s also Grabow … wouldn’t surprise me to see the Cubs dump Grabow this offseason, though).

There’s some Marshall-ish potential with Maine. His slider isn’t as good as Marshall’s curve, but there’s some ability in the former top prep arm. He’s worth keeping around, IMO. I know his 11.1 innings in AAA didn’t have great lefty on lefty numbers, but the stuff is there. Had Gaub been who he was, then maybe Maine gets exposed, but Gaub, as I noted above, was demoted.

I’ll defend Mateo another round here. As I said, I think Mateo could get dropped from the 40, but the Cubs are going to give him every look possible. At his best, he has a plus mid-90’s fastball and plus slider. There’s consistency issues in maintaining the quality of the pitch, but he has decent control out of the pen. The quality of stuff is worth taking a look, considering our pen isn’t exactly loaded with power arms. Health is obviously a key issue with Marcos, though, but his stuff is far better, when on, than Stevens.

by toonsterwu on Sep 8, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have an answer for Stevens

but Gaub went through some issues this year and was demoted to AZL to work on his stuff. My hunch is, since there weren’t any serious medical reports that I recall as I type this, that it was a mechanical issue (something Gaub had tinkered with for most of his career) and they sent him down there to work with Mark Riggins.

by toonsterwu on Sep 8, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rule 5

The best info on Rule 5 is AzPhil’s TCR stuff, which is on the sidebar on their site. skimming over the list, Chris Archer is the one that absolutely, without a doubt, no second thoughts about it, must be protected.

looking over the rest of the list, I’ll offer some thoughts on certain guys (mostly guys that I consider to be borderline considerations for Rule 5 protection)

Steve Clevenger – I’d really like him back, and his bat took off once he got regular time. But with Chirinos needing to be protected (R. Chirinos projects as a possible starter), and with Castillo on the 40 man, unless someone gets moved, it might be tough protecting 4 C’s, and they might roll the dice and see if Clevenger gets through Rule 5 again. It’s possible – his profile is more of a backup backstop, and teams might not be in a position to carry a youngster on their roster. He won’t be the flashiest defensive player, but he’s steady, and makes enough contact offensively that, with the right opportunity/situation, he could make a career in the bigs. Gut feeling: Will be exposed.

Alberto Cabrera – With a mid-90’s fastball and occasionally flashing a plus slider, Cabrera had a strong start at Daytona, got bumped up early, struggled in Tennessee, and finished relatively strong in AA. I believe he’s on the Smokies playoff roster right now. The potential is there. Gut feeling: Will be protected. Type of arm that a team may pluck and try to hide in the pen for a year.

Brandon Guyer – Strong 2nd half. Solid overall athlete. Decent defensive player, although he’s a better fit in the corner. Guyer finally took off in his 2nd year in AA. The power is still more gap power, maybe 15-20 HR’s. The defense is decent-solid. I always compare him to Eric Byrnes, a possible 4th OF/platoon/timeshare type guy. Gut feeling: Will be protected.

Casey Lambert – I still have hopes for the former 5th rounder rehabbing from TJ. When he was on, he had a plus curve to go with a high 80’s (touching low 90’s) fastball. That said, too many lefties, too few spots. Will likely be exposed.

Alessandro Maestri – Not really a borderline guy, but wanted to note him. Had surgery 2 years ago. Control problems led him to be busted to A+. Despite having solid raw stuff, at his age and level, with too many righty pen arm types ahead, he’ll likely be exposed.

Ronny Morla – One of the arms in the Jake Fox deal, Morla had a solid year out of Peoria’s pen. A bit disappointed that he never got rotation duty. There’s raw stuff, but too far away and too much unknown to worry about protecting him. Will likely be exposed.

Jake Muyco – I am dumbfounded (nothing personal to Jake) as to why he is getting a coveted Arizona Fall League spot. Average stuff. Just not sure why he’s getting a prime spot, unless it was to simply send a name up and then potentially replace him later. I have no feeling on this one. Don’t think he should be protected, but guys sent to Arizona typically have a shot.

Craig Muschko – Pitcher has a low 90’s fastball, decent slider, decent change, good control. Basically, he’s Mitch Atkins. Battled some small injuries this year in AA. The type of guy that I could actually see a team roll the dice on, although more than likely, he’ll be back next year. will likely be exposed.

Nate Samson – Here’s a possible Ryan Theriot type that will likely be exposed. Good discipline, decent in the field.

Chris Siegfried/Ryan Buchter/Luke Sommer – Lumping these three lefties together. If there’s a “surprise” (not that any of these three would be huge surprises), it might be one of these lefties. Despite having other lefties around (Maine/Russell), the organization may keep another guy. Personally, I’d keep Siegfried, who I think has the better stuff, but Sommer has a hard 2-seamer and may get a long look. Organization bumped him to AAA. Buchter has a decent curve, but control issues plagued him in AA and my guess is that he’ll be exposed.

Kyle Smit – Improvements in control once he moved to the pen helped him succeed. That said, he doesn’t have overwhelming stuff (solid fb/cu combination and a decent splitter). Despite being a trade acquisition, I could see the Cubs exposing him. Toss-up.

Marquez Smith – This one will be interesting. He could fill the Jeff Baker role (although not as good at 2nd) if the Cubs feel he’s ready. But how young can you have the bench? Line drive power, good reactions at 3rd. I’d like to see him at AAA and picking up and OF glove occasionally, to make him more versatile. Gut feeling: will be protected, but I wouldn’t assume it’s a slam dunk.

Matt Spencer – I think a lot of people have had him slip, and it’s possible he’s exposed. Perhaps even likely. that said, he has raw power that the system could utilize. If there’s a surprise, it might be Matt Spencer getting protected.

Larry Suarez – The big international signing a few years ago has raw ability but hasn’t been able to show consistency. Busted back to Boise after a decent start in Peoria, he’s so far away that I can’t see the Cubs protecting him unless he flashes strong in instructional work.

Tony Thomas – Former high pick had his 2nd year at AA. Discipline is still the show, and with other MI options behind him, I think he’ll be exposed. My guess is that he’ll make it back and be Iowa’s 2nd baseman next year.

There might be a surprise or two that gets protected, depending on how instructs go.

by toonsterwu on Sep 8, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

breakdown

Keep in mind the above names weren’t a comprehensive list of everyone exposed. To see a thorough list, go to TCR and see AzPhil’s list on the sidebar.

Must protect – Chris Archer.

Might protect/Guessing yes – Marquez Smith, Luke Sommer, Brandon Guyer, Alberto Cabrera.

Might protect/Guessing no – Matt Spencer, Kyle Smit, Chris Siegfried, Ryan Buchter, Steve Clevenger.

Probably won’t be protected: Tony Thomas, Larry Suarez, Nate Samson, Craig Muschko, Ronny Morla, Marwin Gonzalez (toolsy kid hasn’t taken off despite opportunities), Alessandro Maestri, Casey Lambert,

No clue: Jake Muyco.

by toonsterwu on Sep 8, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow....

thanks for all that great break down. Very helpful and informative.

So it looks like the Cubs need to make room for 5 or 6 guys

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 8, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I had to make a tough choice

Chris Archer clearly has to be protected. The next guy on my list would probably be Brandon Guyer. Coming off a breakthrough campaign (albeit, maybe a tinge lucky), he’s also a former high round pick. The organization could use some young OF’s. Is he a must protect? I wouldn’t go that far – his profile, still, IMO, is a borderline starter at best (hey, here’s hoping I’m wrong and he establishes himself as a regular).

If we only protect 2, those would be the guys for me, but there’s almost likely going to be around 4-6 spots open, if not 1 or 2 more. The next guy, if I was making the choice, would be Alberto Cabrera. It’s possible he’s another Marcos Mateo, but the potential of that fb, which can get into the mid-90’s, and a solid slider is awfully tantalizing.

that’d be my top 3, if we could only protect 3 (a distinct possibility). I’m not so sure that Marquez Smith would be the clearcut 4th guy for me. The guy I might ponder is Matt Spencer. The guy has raw power that the system could use. that said, he needs to be able to put it to use on a more consistent basis. Marquez is more line-drive power, and I’d like to see him work at other spots, because otherwise, he’s just a backup 3rd baseman with line drive power, not exactly that valuable (he has worked at 2nd before, but wasn’t that good).

by toonsterwu on Sep 9, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

ugh

can’t stand my idiotic typo – for Thomas, it should say discipline is still the issue, not sure why I typed show.

by toonsterwu on Sep 8, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

just realized I forgot to specifically talk about

Robinson Chirinos, who will be, in all likelihood, be protected, and who likely will challenge for the backup backstop job.

by toonsterwu on Sep 9, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok...

… I guess the issue is Snyder/Scales versus Smith/Chirinos. Some people were asking why not Smith and Chirinos and in terms of “Clearing off” space on the 40-man roster, Snyder and Scales to make it easier. I understand that this is just temporary space and space that will have to go to Grabow and Caridad when they come off the 60-Day DL. No, bringing up Snyder and Scales doesn’t mean that there will be space for other players in a few weeks to add to the 40-man roster, but it does mean that it will be easy to clear these two off the 40-man roster when its time to bring back Grabow and Caridad. Chirinos and Smith, assuming the Cubs want to keep them around, its not as easy.

by dmlichte on Sep 8, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I understand people who want to see Smith and Chirinos. Frankly, I would say they have a beef with Smith, who should be up, instead of Scales, to see if he could take Baker’s spot next year (cheaper).

For Chirinos I am more indifferent… not because he should never get a shot, but they already brought up Castillo. There’s no point to lugging around 4 catchers and the organization seems to want to see if Castillo could be an answer (sort of… since he rarely plays). If Soto were on the DL, it would be different.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 8, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great question.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Sep 7, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Sep 11, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

"I did, kid, and you ain't in it!"

Let’s hope Snyder gets the Krukow treatment today.

No Jason DuBois?

LaRussa, Pujols: dupes for Glenn Beck

by Dan Serafini on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

More info.
To make room for Scales and Snyder on the 40-man roster, pitchers John Grabow and Esmailin Caridad were transferred to the 60-day disabled list.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 7, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Guess that means Hoffpauir is safe. Woo. Hooo.

Choosing between Scales and Grabow is like choosing between two pieces of unidentified crud in your pocket you can’t remember what it was when you put it there.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Sep 7, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the buried the Lead

Should have been:

Pitchers John Grabow and Esmailin Caridad were transferred to the 60-day disabled list. To fill their 40 man roster spots…

"They come to see me strike out, hit a home run, or run into a fence. I try to accommodate them at least one way every game." - Gorman Thomas

by RiskyBusiness on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grabow I get but hadn't Caridad been pitching?

I will not even comment on Scales beyond the thought that he must have something I Hendry. I mistakenly thought it was Lou.

As Fuld is out of options I strongly suspect this is his last appearance as a Cub. While he most likely could clear waivers, he would probably have a better shot at making a roster with another team whose major and minor league roster is not stuffed with left handed hitting outfielders. Clearly the Cubs don’t value his speed, defense or plate patience and since he turns 29 in November whatever chance he has is likely with another organization. If Dome were traded and Dunn not signed, he might have an outside chance at the bench but again he has a better chance somewhere else.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 7, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way to go Doggie!
I will not even comment on Scales beyond the thought that he must have something I Hendry. I mistakenly thought it was Lou.

by shoemile on Sep 7, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting to me, too.

How does a guy pitching on a rehab assignment this week get tossed to the 60 day DL?

I was actually hoping they’d bring Caridad up as one of the bullpen filler guys. I still cling to a last sliver of hope that he could be a middle reliever for the Cubs.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 7, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

He went on the DL over 60 days ago

So moving him to the 60 day is just a procedural move. It can be retroactive.

I believe pitchers in the minor leagues get up to 30 days in a rehab assignment. (I think it’s 21 for position players. If someone can find if that’s correct, that would be great.) I don’t have the exact day he started his rehab assignment (because it was in rookie ball) but his first TN appearance was August 22. Assuming his appearance in the Arizona Summer League was a few days before that, the Cubs can keep Caridad in the minors on rehab until around September 19 or so. This is often done with a player that you don’t want anymore but are hoping to find a place for eventually as a stalling tactic. However, I don’t think that’s the case here with Caridad, since they could activate him at anytime with the expanded rosters. I just think they don’t think he’s ready to face major league hitters, and giving TN an extra bullpen arm as they go for the championship is just an added plus.

by Josh Timmers on Sep 8, 2010 3:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

That makes sense.

It just seemed a little head scratching that you could move a guy who was currently on a rehab assignment from the 15 to the 60 since the rehab assignment suggests on some level that they are “coming back”. But everything you posted makes sense from a procedural stand point.

I was hoping Caridad might come up in late September… and while that still could happen with the expanded roster, they’d have to make a slot for him back on the 40 man. So I kind of doubt he’ll be back with the big club this fall.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Sep 8, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sad

I hope Fuld gets into a few games. He is EASILY the best defensive outfielder in the Cub system. His hustle and enthusiasm will be missed. He would fit in with a team like the Twins very nicely.

"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields

by KedzieKid on Sep 8, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brad Snyder

He might be the next Micah Hoffpauir, but I’m glad he got the call-up. Hoff never has adjusted well to the pinch-hitter/spot starter role. If Snyder is going to stick in the big leagues, I believe that’s the role he’s going to have to fill. We’ll see how Snyder does.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Sep 7, 2010 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

From what I remember looking up Snyder's record, I think he was a college player?

28, but not 10-years in the minors. Is it possible he might be one of those ‘finally caught lightning in a bottle’ guys? Put another way, Snyder is about 2½ years younger than Ryan Theriot – I don’t know that it’s entirely out of the question that you could some major league use out of the guy.

It is audition month, after all.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Sep 7, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Snyder

his problem has always been strikeouts, and coming off the bench isn’t going to make that any easier. He does have power and enough athleticism to fill a bench role, if he could adapt to coming off the bench and getting occasional AB’s. My hunch is that he’s a AAAA type.

by toonsterwu on Sep 8, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope

Samardzija gets a start

by Ryno G on Sep 7, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm happy for Scales, great guy, he can use the money.

After all he is a substitute teacher in the off season, he needs our blessing!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Sep 7, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember when Esmalin Caridad was supposed to be our eighth-inning guy?

Of all the things that didn’t work out this year, that might have been the easiest disaster to predict.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2010 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

It's right up there with Howry getting released.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Sep 7, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

There were a lot of things that went wrong that Hendry couldn't have predicted:

Lee and Ramirez having awful first halves is something Hendry couldn’t have really predicted. But a bullpen with (essentially) four rookies? Even if Guzman had been healthy, the bullpen was poorly constructed.

by elgato on Sep 7, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure will be nice to pay 4.8 million next year for Grayblow.

Yeah, it was very poorly constructed . It angers me the same guy will construct next year’s pen.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Sep 7, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

they must be concerned about Ramirez suffering another injury

that is the only reason I can think of to add Scales. Baker struggles against righties, and if he starts at 3B, they will want to use a left handed pinch hitter for him (Fuke, Hoffpaur), so there could be an actual need for Scales. They have little infield depth after the release of Tracy, trade of Fontenot and promotion of Barney.

by holy mackeral on Sep 7, 2010 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep.

This oughta keep him from dogging it on the bases.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Sep 7, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

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