The Chicago Cubs 2011 Draft: Strategy, Player Profiles, and , My Thoughts.
I know SenorGato made a post for the 2011 draft but I felt I wanted to get more in depth with a post since the college season will be getting started soon. We hold the #9 overall pick and a 2nd rounder that should land somewhere around 70 in an extraordinaryly deep draft. So 2 of the top 100 players should land in our system. The Cubs took a step in the right direction in an underrated 2010 draft. With our 2nd rounder we went after a 1st round talent (Golden) and a couple of late round (7th and 12th) H.S. pitchers who were considered tough signs but with considerable talent. Wells and Reed cost us a mere 650K.
This is a trend that needs to continue especially after losing 4 of our top prospects. The byproduct of holding the #9 overall pick alone should finally push the Cubs over the 5 million mark for dollars spent in the draft. While many have critized the Ricketts thus far for being cheap, I applaud the restrant shown in not trying to throw around a lot of money on FA just for the sake of it. They have said they will put more money in player development. The 2010 draft budget may very well have been already set so I give them a pass there.
They did give Szczur 1.5 million to buy him out of playing football so that is very encoraging.(Update: The Cubs also just spent 1.5 million on 2 Cuban defectors). So while some are already passing judgement on ownership I will hold my opinions untill I see what is spent on the 2011 draft. As stated above we should break the 5 million mark if for nothing else then holding the 9th pick so I will be looking for us to spend 6 million. If we break the 7 or 8 million mark I will dance a jig. The Phillies top 3 prospects were picked as follows; Dom Brown 20th rd. (200k), Johnathan Singleton 8th rd. (200K), and Brody Colvin 7th rd. (900K). So for a mere 1.3 million dollar investment in late round tough signs they netted 3 elite prospect. We would be wise to follow this blueprint.
Now I am very intrigued by Daniel Norris, a lefty with a 92-96 mph FB, power CB that may be plus, and an advanced CU for H.S. arm. This is a high end arm that would also fill a need, TOR LH SP. Many say that taking H.S. arms is to much of a gamble. While I agree it is slightly higher of a gamble it's not what many make it out to be especially considering when you hit with high end H.S. player it can payoff big. I will say with a good senior season he may be asking for a 5.5 million dollar bonus ala Jacob Turner circa 2009 and if we don't want to put all of our eggs in 1 basket per say I can see the prudence in this.
Now if we don't want to take the risk to spend this type of money on a 1st rd. H.S. arm I can see the argument. What we need to do then is target 3, 4, 5, 6-10, round H.S. arms. The T.B. Rays have shown a blueprint for this. The Rays have drafted as follows: Wade Davis (3rd 2004), Jeremy Hellickson (4th 2005), Jake McGee (5th 2004), Nick Barnese (3rd 2007), Matt Moore (8th 2007), and Joe Cruz (30th 2007) to name just a few. Add in James Shields and that's 3/5 of their 2011 staff (Davis and Hellickson), future closer (McGee), an elite prospect who should join the rotation by 2012 (Moore) and 2 excellent prospects (barnese and Cruz). This is just to name some. This again is a blueprint we would be wise to follow.
Some feel that H.S. arms are 2 volitile but if you take a H.S. arm like these there are some benfiits. To start you can limit their IP early, get them on your oprganizations throwing programs, and maybe the biggest is to start teaching them the CU which even at the college level is normally lagging.
As it stands now, baring injury, Rendon, Purke, Cole, and Springer (now Goodwin) will surely go before the Cubs pick at 9. I touched on Norris above so that's 5 maybe 6 of the 8 picks before the Cubs. Now of coarse things could change from now until the draft but I'm not even sure a poor 2011 for the 4 (5) college kids would drop them much considering past performances and tools.
The teams drafting ahead of the Cubs like the Royals, O's, Pirates, and Nats have been agressive in the draft and have shown they will throw a ton of money into the draft. With the Dbacks holding the #3 and #7 overall may see them take a less talented player with the 7 because of the price to sign 2 high picks. So potnetially we should land 1 of the top 8 players in the draft.
I pieced these scouting reports together from 2 years of Cape Code reports (PG), BA Cape Code reports (2010), and a variety of other things I've read on the web. Please note that I've done the best I can at finding accurate SR and am in no way saying this is the final book on these players. Also note that it was much harder to find scouting reports on the H.S. talent thus why they are slimmer in content and aslo considering they don't fit Wilkens 1st rd. profile so I spent less time on them.
College
OF. Jackie Bradley - S. Carolina -
Switch hitter who fits Wilkens mold of safe college bat and may be the pick. His most impressive tool is his near 80 arm (on the standard 20-80 scouting scale). Has good CF range but may profile better as a RF. Not a true burner but has above average speed and was 10-13 in SBO in 2009 on the Cape. Has good bat speed and makes consistent contact. Has yet to show anything more then gap-gap power but a wrist injury in 2010 may have sapped his power potential. May develop power in 2011. Has 1 of the best combinations of tools and performance. This polished college bat should move fast and would combine with BJax to form 2/3 of a really well rounded OF for the Cubs.
LHP. Jed Bradley - Georgia Tech -
While many are advocating RHPs like Gray, Jungman, and, Barnes we already own many RH power pitches in the system. While we have some interesting LHP in the system none imo profile as long term SP options as of yet. Bradley would fix this and should move fast. Has a good body, 6'3 205, and was said to be 1 of the most impressive arms on the Cape in 2010. According to PG he had the best command on the Cape, sporting a K/BB ratio of 44/8 in 41 IP and leading the Cape in SO. FB sits 88-92 and peaks at 95. Compliments his FB with a hard-80s slider and effective to plus CU depending on what report you read.
OF. Brian Goodwin - Miami Dade CC -
Would not have been eligable for the 2011 draft until suspended from UNC and transfered to a CC. Maybe should have been included with the 4 college kids I specified would for sure go before the Cubs pick since I've heard he may be the 3rd best player on the board now. Goodwin has impressive tools but is very raw right now. Maybe the most impressive set of tools in the draft starting with raw power and speed both grading as plus to plus-plus. Was rated as the 2nd best athlete and fastest baserunner on the Cape in 2010. With more expierence combined with his top end speed should be able to stick in CF and has the arm for RF. Made significant strides with strength and swing in his 1 year out of H.S. As I wirite this Goodwin probably replaces Springer as 1 of the 4 sure fire players to go ahead of the Cubs. The reason I profile Goodwin here is being a CC player does give him ectra leverage and his tools probably will see him asking for a huge bonus which may scare some teams off, doubtful someone doesn;t take a chacne but still..............maybe it's me just dreaming lol.
RHP. Sonny Gray - Vanderbilt -
This is many on the BCBs favriote for the Cubs choice at 9. Gray is smallish, 6'0 195, but the Cubs drafted him in the 27th rd. in '08 and already have shown they are not afraid to take pitchers of this stature i.e. Hayden Simpson. Gray has frontline stuff and is a excellent athlete. He sits in the low 90s with his FB late into games and his whip like arm can touch the mid 90s. He also features a mid 80s slider that is unhittable when on. He's a bulldog on the mound and may well go before the Cubs pick at 9. While we already have numerous players who priofile like him I would not be disapointed if he were our pick. You can never have to much pitching.
OF. George Springer - UConn -
Above I said that Springer was probably gonna go before the Cubs pick at 9 but with Goodwin now being draft eligable this may change things. I figure Rendon, Purke, Cole, and Goodwin a safe bet to go in the top 4 picks, at least 1 or 2 of Gray/Jungmann possibly Barnes/Armstrong, 1 or 2 of the top H.S. arms (Norris/Bradley/Bundy) and the fact that the Dbacks own 2 picks in the top 7 and probably take a lesser easier sign talent @ 7 potentially pushes Springer to us. While I say this is unlikely it is possible. Springer is a 5 tool talent who if fell to us @ 9 would/should be the pick and instantly becomes the #1 prospect in the system. On the Cape in 2010, according to PG, he was rated as the best athlete and 2nd best power. At 6'3 200 with explosive bat speed generating plus raw power. Also features plus arm and speed and is a fine defender in CF.
Overview -
As of right now I'm gonna pass on profiling any H.S. players that ma be available and worthy of the #9 pick considering Wilkens recent 1st round picks. This draft is deep and should land us a high end talent. After spending another 1.5 million on a couple of Cuban defectors gives me even more hope on what may be spent on the 2011 draft. It's not just the #9 pick which is key for us it's the fact that so much high end H.S. talent will be available in the later rounds that we need to tap into. Hopefully we will. I know it's early for this but I love doing this and find it very fun. I will continue to follow the draft and update things. I did my 2010 work on wrigleybound.com but since the site is debunk now I will now do this on the BCB if this is somehting that interests the community.
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Thanks for the effort
I see where ESPN will be showing some SEC games starting in April. Good chances to eyeball Gray and Jackie Bradley.
Feel free to update us once play commences.
well done
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 28, 2011 6:22 PM CST reply actions
NP guys
A labor of love on my part.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Realistically,
I wouldn’t mind ‘limiting’ the amount spent in the first round, if the money would then be spent in the other rounds.
I’m not sure what ‘slot’ is for Pick 9. I’d want to avoid going too far over that, especially if it is a reasonable pick. Then pound away at the next ten or so picks with talent. Then, maybe Boise can have a good team, and our system will be in really good shape.
Last year's picks
DeShields got $2.125M at pick 8 from the Astros.
The Pads didn’t sign pick 9.
Choice got $2M even at pick 10 from the A’s.
Simpson got $1.06M from the Cubs at 16… so we should expect the Cubs’ pick at 9 this year to double that.
The Cubs spent ~$4.7M total last year on the draft last year. The increase for the first round pick alone should push them up against the $6M mark.
So, while many might say I’m setting the bar/expectations too high, I want/need to see two things from the Cubs draft spending this year to tell me they’ve really changed their approach to draft spending. First, the total ought to be $8M+.
Second, I’d like to see no more than two teams with a lower first round pick than ninth outspend the Cubs. Let me explain. As noted elsewhere, high first round picks can take up a good chunk of coin all by themselves. In other words, it is hard to knock the Cubs for being outspent by the Pirates when Pittsburgh spent $6.5M on the #2 pick.
On the other hand… Toronto, Boston, Texas and both LAs spent $8M+ with a first round pick below nine (ok, ok, you caught me… the Dodgers spent $7.99M… sue me). The Cubs ought to be in the upper tier of that company, IMO.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
well... tampa bay
is almost assuredly going to outspend the cubs and they pick after us, so you’re now down to a margin of 1…
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 28, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
I did think of them with all of their picks.
I think it is likely they outspend the Cubs, but not quite a stone cold lock. They just can’t throw around $9M with their limited resources (unless they’ve been “budgeting” for this… I haven’t paid that much attention to their overall financial situation). They spent $9.9M in ’08, but that was with the number one pick taking $6.15M.
I kind of figure the Rays won’t sign a couple of those picks or will have to get a couple at under slot deals.
But even if the Rays do outspend the Cubs, so be it. I’m just saying there shouldn’t be three or four teams who pick below the Cubs outspending them.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
I understand why
everyone wants the Cubs to spend $X+ – I dont care if the Cubs spend $.50 in the draft…just draft wisely, just draft with a plan…if thats middle of the field atheletes and fill in the rest via FA then fine, do it…just dont throw $10 million at something hoping to fix it
Aren
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by TheBeerBaron on Jan 29, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions
D'oh
Accidentally pressed “enter” twice.
I meant to ask…
Aren’t you encouraged by the recent activity in the Cubs’ scouting department and signings? Szczur, Jackson, the recent Cuban signings, etc. I actually trust the Cubs scouting department especially with Tim Wilken running the show.
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by TheBeerBaron on Jan 29, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
absolutely
and only time will tell how well it works out but we are moving in the right direction again.
by hansman1982 on Jan 29, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think
any of us who want to see the Cubs spend money think just “throwing money” is the solution. Of course they have to draft “wisely”. But two things come to mind.
1. It is easy to look in hindsight and say a team (like TB) has drafted wisely. Development plays a big part. So does where you pick.
2. The ability/willingness to spend money can make your picks a lot smarter, since you can buy some HS kids out of their college commitments (or in some cases a draft eligible college guy out of his other year or years). The Cubs have done a little of this… the Red Sox have excelled at it.
I think that is what lots of us are looking to see. Spend $3-4M more on the draft annually… and spend a little smarter at the major league level to help compensate.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
by fsuapollo on Jan 29, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
One hand washes the other
If you don’t have to offer crazy deals to middling big leaguers (Grabow, Miles), you can spread more easily 6 or 8 million in bonuses. Thereby, reducing the need, when done properly, to waste further money on MLB players of limited value.
and I dislike it when
people gripe if they dont go overslot to get a guy. Just get the best guy that you should be able to sign with a reasonable offer…if it will take $10 mil and a NTC I don’t care who it is unless the players name is either George Herman Ruth, III or Albert Pujols, Jr.
I guess I am more frustrated with the whiners than anything else…I have faith that Ricketts and Co. are doing everything they can to make us a perennial powerhouse
by hansman1982 on Jan 29, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
So a team should never go overslot to get a guy?
And going overslot doesn’t necessarily mean an “unreasonable” offer. The Cubs went overslot to get Golden last year in the 2nd (and later Wells in the 6th or 7th) and neither were deemed unreasonable.
The Cubs’ system lacks elite talent. You sometimes (often?) have to go overslot to get elite talent.
We are seeing a handful of good signs out of the Ricketts lately after some worrisome moves earlier in the off-season. Let’s hope that continues… and a little more spending on the draft would be another good sign.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
by fsuapollo on Jan 29, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I worded my response poorly…spend what you have to to get the talent you want and will think will improve the team – and if that means we go under-slot in all of the rounds, fine, if we have to go over slot in all of the rounds, fine
I would actually turn your earlier comment around a little
To say that with each pick the team should pick the guy who they believe best meets the needs of the franchise. Then spend what it takes to sign him, overslot or not.
Very cool post...
Sonny Gray is the man.
Bradley Jr.’s CF defense is supposed to be top of the line…which makes him very interesting…sounds like a Kenny Lofton type hitter.
I really want the Cubs to take JBJr if Purke is gone
Watching him in the College World Series last year, he’s got a ton of potential and does the little things, and that’s a winning combination
by Mulhollandmania on Jan 29, 2011 3:54 PM CST reply actions
thanks for the post cubsfan1
George Springer is a beast. One can always hope he might drop…I’ll have to check out Norris.
Nice post.
For a second, I thought this was from Cubsfan21 — the dude who posted suggestions about BCB the other day. :)
Ha! When I first saw that post
I thought it was Cubsfan1 and wondered what was going on. There ought to be a moratorium on screen names starting with “cubsfan.”
Norris
I’ve been on his bandwagon for awhile. He’s essentially Matt Purke coming out of HS, with possibly a little better fastball. Unless he’s asking for the moon, I don’t see how he falls to us, though.
It could very well go this way....
1. Rendon
2. Purke
3. Cole
4. Goodwin
5. Springer
6. Gray
7. a non -top 10 guy because this is the dbacks 2nd pick in the top 7
8. 1 of the Bradley’s/Jungmann/Starlin
So Norris could very well be there for us to pick. The ? is would Wilken take a H.S. arm with this pick and would the Cubs be willing to potenitally throw out Jacob Turner-like money (5.5 mil).
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Good point
In regards to the D-backs pick. I forgot about that. However, I’m not sure Goodwin/Gray/Jungmann/Bradley should be ranked in front of Norris. Obviously we will have to wait until the season is over to judge, but Norris is top 5 for me right now. He has a better repetoire than Gray (only 2 pitches), is a lefty, and is only in HS. As I stated before, I could see him drop if the bonus demand is there, but on pure talent, I’m not thinking he falls to us.
RE:
Oh, Goodwin def. should but I agree with the rest your points. I’m very intrigued by the lefty and absent Goodwin or Springer being avaiable i would like that to be our pick. I will be profiling a the H.S. talent in a week or so.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Power
Lots of questions about Goodwin’s power at the moment. Unless he shows some more this season, he isn’t top 5.
This is according to BA from the 2010 Cape Code scouting report.
The highest-ranked player on this list who’s not eligible for the 2011 draft, Goodwin has all the tools to be one of the top picks in 2012. His raw power and speed are plus-plus tools, and he could stick in center field if he improves with experience. Though the 6-foot-1, 190-pounder still has more work to do, he has made significant progress in his first year out of high school, particularly with his strength and swing.
“He had some of the best tools in the league,” Harwich manager Steve Englert said. “He’s just very raw right now. Once he matures and learns the game, he’s got a chance to be pretty good. The ball explodes off his bat when he barrels it.”
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
RE:
I’ve seen more then a couple respected ppl already projecting him as the 3rd or 4th best avaiable player in the 2011 draft.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Yea kinda came out of nowhere...
I’ve only seen his name recently…He was a really talented HS player but I really don’t remember hearing his name up until a few weeks ago.
He transferred from UNC
He wouldn’t have been eligible for the draft, but he transferred to a JUCO.
And he's not that new of a name.
He was considered a potential 1st rounder in 09.
Seems he ended up falling (to South Siders at #523) since everyone figured he was going to UNC.
Definitely more tools than polish at this point.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
DBacks second pick
You’re right in projecting that the DBacks will not choose someone projected to go high with their second pick. Remember that the new rule is that if the player chosen with their compensation pick doesn’t sign this time, they don’t get another one next season. So they really need to hit someone that they KNOW they can sign. So toss out any player that would have questionable demands.
With permission, a sideswipe
I want to do some prospecting. Now. Today. Not much baseball on today. Is anything legally backlogged online so that I can watch to develop an opinion on a guy that will be potentially drafted in the Top 5 Rounds today?
TIA.
Here:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100609&content_id=10987816&vkey=draftcentral2010&fext=.jsp
http://www.5tooltalk.com/2011-dandydozen-11-14-10.html
Try MLBBonusBaby too…they always have something.
Not sure if Brewerfan still does their stuff…I think 5tooltalk’s guy used to do their stuff.
Also..
the always awesome Baseball Beginnings:
http://baseballbeginnings.com/2011/01/24/michael-kelly-video
I linked you to a Michael Kelly video…HS pitcher who I’ve read Porcello comps for…but obviously you can dig around the website….there’s a ton of good info.
Jo-El Bennet and Craig Shirley
id like to see us draft jo el bennet http://rise.espn.go.com/all-sports/Videos.aspx?id=10af6f32-8f95-42a9-8c29-72756505958d
and Craig Shirley 2 players out of my area who are really good http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/cDIk4COKO0ibePxTDCrctg/baseball-spring-11/profile-craig-shirley.htm
Shirley was a Louisville Slugger All American as a junior and Bennet is projected as a 4th to 12th round draft picked
Starlin=MVP 2011
by Starlin_Castro_for_MVP on Feb 11, 2011 4:43 PM CST reply actions
We aren't opposed to
invading Alabama. See (Golden, Reginald and McNutt, Trey).
Keep me apprised of how they are doing, whether the list is interested or not.

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